CBA is heading to the players for a vote

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NFLPA Board of Player Representatives voted to send the proposed collective bargaining agreement to the membership for a vote. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLPA?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLPA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CBA?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CBA</a></p>&mdash; George Atallah (@GeorgeAtallah) <a href="https://twitter.com/GeorgeAtallah/status/1232547107095154688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CBA goes out to players for a vote at 9 am ET. Voting window will stay open 7 days, per source.</p>&mdash; Dan Graziano (@DanGrazianoESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanGrazianoESPN/status/1235563424299483137?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">An update on our CBA vote: <a href="https://t.co/d8P5KoFYP6">pic.twitter.com/d8P5KoFYP6</a></p>&mdash; NFLPA (@NFLPA) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLPA/status/1237058355757297664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[dlphg9]

Did anything change or is this the same exact deal as before?

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Did anything change or is this the same exact deal as before?

No clue to be honest.

[dlphg9]

No clue to be honest.

Just find it odd for them to say no to a vote just a few days ago and then decide to change their mind if there is nothing new in it. This will pass and there is no doubt in my mind about that.

[SPchief]

wow

[Wilson8]

George Atallah is the assistant executive director of external affairs for the NFL Players Association. So he should be well informed of what is going on.

Since he is tweeting that they are sending the CBA to the general membership for a vote, it has a high chance of passing. This is going to the 2,000 NFLPA members and for many of these players the new CBA gives them a better chance of staying in the NFL and making money.

From the things that I have read, there may have been a few financial perks that helped get this through tonight. Not supposed to be anything major though. I think the $250,000 limit on the extra 17th game may have increased, but the money from that was supposed to come from a different bucket.

I think this is good news and I hope it works out for all.

[Wilson8]

If the membership of the NFLPA approves the proposed CBA, it would set the stage for labor peace for the next decade. Details of the proposal were not immediately disclosed.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nflpa-board-of-player-representatives-sends-proposed-cba-through-to-entire-membership-for-vote/

The decade of "NFL Peace and Understanding"...Oh, and don't forget it's also the decade of the "Chiefs and Mahomes".

[scho63]

I hope they say "FUCK YOU", things are great.

[LoneWolf]

I hope they say "FUCK YOU", things are great.

Why do you hope the players reject the deal?

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Player reps passed it by a vote of 17-14 and 1 didn’t vote. Talk about Bare minimum

[tyecopeland]

I hope they vote it down to get rid if the 17th game nonsense.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

I hope they vote it down to get rid if the 17th game nonsense.

Not gonna happen.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When the <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLPA?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NFLPA</a> votes today, don’t underestimate the factor of the $100,000 increase to minimum salaries in 2020. B/c this increase impacts so many (mostly unheralded) players, it could make the difference in a new CBA being approved, despite the concerns about a 17 game season.</p>&mdash; Mike Tannenbaum (@RealTannenbaum) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealTannenbaum/status/1232634374119657472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Owners were very smart to target these players.

[RedRaider56]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When the <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLPA?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NFLPA</a> votes today, don’t underestimate the factor of the $100,000 increase to minimum salaries in 2020. B/c this increase impacts so many (mostly unheralded) players, it could make the difference in a new CBA being approved, despite the concerns about a 17 game season.</p>&mdash; Mike Tannenbaum (@RealTannenbaum) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealTannenbaum/status/1232634374119657472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Owners were very smart to target these players.

Yep. A bunch of the sports talking heads were saying yesterday that this one item will probably get the CBA passed.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per source, NFL made no significant concessions during Tuesday&#39;s meeting with NFLPA leadership.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1232642674836037632?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A few notes on NFLPA reps voting overnight to pass along proposed CBA to all players: <br><br>- Vote was 17-14 (1 abstained)<br><br>- Owners agreed to remove $250K cap on 17th game check for existing contracts, but rejected proposal to shorten offseason<br><br>- Timing of final vote to ratify TBD</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1232643796778782722?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[pugsnotdrugs19]

17th game is gonna happen.

Just get it over with so we can start signing Mahomes and Jones.

[DTVietnam]

I hope they vote it down to get rid if the 17th game nonsense.

why?.,,.,.you dont want 1 more week of real footbnall and 1 less week of preseason?

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Actually, no. Was just told the full player vote won’t be for a couple of weeks, as NFLPA attorneys have to draft the document. <a href="https://t.co/OcieDMmDQk">https://t.co/OcieDMmDQk</a></p>&mdash; Dan Graziano (@DanGrazianoESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanGrazianoESPN/status/1232651227399426048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[KChiefs1]

It will easily pass.

[KChiefs1]

I thought Showtime had been banned?

[KChiefs1]

17th game is gonna happen.



Just get it over with so we can start signing Mahomes and Jones.



18 games will be in the next CBA.

[Lprechaun]

18 games will be in the next CBA.

It took 40 years for there to be 17. Dont look for 18 anytime soon.

[KChiefs1]

It took 40 years for there to be 17. Dont look for 18 anytime soon.


In the next CBA in 10 years. It only makes sense to have it even numbered.

I think it will eventually be 2 preseason games, 18 regular season games with 2 bye weeks & 8 teams in the playoffs per conference with no byes. Rosters will be expanded again. Less practice & more pay for the fringe players. I can also see an eventual 50/50 cut in regards to revenue sharing between the owners & players.

A team making it to the Super Bowl would play 23 games.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

With the 17 game season that means no more .500 teams

[Third Eye]

With the 17 game season that means no more .500 teams

No, just far fewer. There will still be the occasional 8-8-1 team.

[Mecca]

In the next CBA in 10 years. It only makes sense to have it even numbered.

I think it will eventually be 2 preseason games, 18 regular season games with 2 bye weeks & 8 teams in the playoffs per conference with no byes. Rosters will be expanded again. Less practice & more pay for the fringe players. I can also see an eventual 50/50 cut in regards to revenue sharing between the owners & players.

A team making it to the Super Bowl would play 23 games.

18 games makes expansion way easier too which is where this is going.

[DaFace]

I thought Showtime had been banned?You thought wrong.

[ChiefBlueCFC]

The main thing I'm concerned about is the salary cap and hopefully having a single player or 2 exempt or something, that'd be super beneficial for us and I don't exactly expect it to happen. Just wishful thinking.

Not sure how I feel about 14 playoff teams and 17 games. Think the current format for playoffs is good.. but other than that, it doesn't exactly effect me so

[tyecopeland]

why?.,,.,.you dont want 1 more week of real footbnall and 1 less week of preseason?

An odd number of games means that some teams will be at a disadvantage with home/road splits or every team will have to play an international game every year. Neither of those are good ideas in my opinion. Also, while I'm sure they have something in mind, I have no idea how they would tweak the schedule to keep it remotely even in terms of who plays who. Adding an extra game against a non common opponent means that one team in each division is probably going to get shafted by having to play a much harder team than the rest of the division.

[Wilson8]

Part of a NFL.com story. The removal of the $250,000 cap for the 17th game would be a big change in the original proposal. See below in red.

The proposal secured on Tuesday night the approval of a majority of the 32 player representatives to be passed to the union's near-2,000 dues-paying members for a vote of ratification. NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported that because the board of reps forwarded the proposed CBA without a recommendation, it did not need to require a two-thirds majority.

Per Pelissero, the vote was 17-14, with 1 abstaining.

The vote to ratify the new CBA requires a simple majority, or 50 percent, of players to pass. Pelissero reported late Tuesday night, that that vote is a "virtual certainty." In football terms, Pelissero reported, the league and the players are "on the 1-yard line towards 10 years of labor peace."

Pelissero adds the timing of the final vote to ratify the CBA is still to be determined.
Tuesday's meeting was attended by all eight members of the NFL Management Council Executive Committee, which negotiates on the owners' behalf, Pelissero reported. Multiple player representatives, including Richard Sherman, Russell Okung and Benjamin Watson, were also in attendance.

All owners and players left the meeting without commenting. Union reps also did not provide comment at this time.

Tuesday's sit-down, which lasted nearly four hours, was scheduled after the NFLPA executive committee voted Friday not to recommend the owner-approved CBA proposal to its members.

Included in the latest proposal are the option to expand to a 17-game regular season, an increase in players' share of total revenue to at least 48 percent and the expansion of the playoff field to 14 teams beginning in 2020. Owners agreed to remove $250K cap on the 17th game check for existing contracts, but rejected a proposal to shorten offseason, Pelissero reported.

If the proposal is approved this week, the CBA will be thrust into effect in time for the new league year on March 18, which could change free agency and the salary cap. For instance, teams would no longer be able to use both the franchise and transition tag when the tag window opens on Feb. 27., as they currently are allowed in the final year of the current CBA, which expires following the 2020 season.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001103240/article/nflpa-proposed-cba-sent-for-full-membership-vote

[comochiefsfan]

17th game is gonna happen.

Just get it over with so we can start signing Mahomes and Jones.

Don't care about the 17th game nearly as much as the ridiculous new playoff format.

[FloridaMan88]

If the CBA is going to all the players for a vote then it will get approved, especially among the “rank and file” players (i.e. not the players at the Aaron Rodgers/Russell Wilson salary level).

[Mecca]

If the CBA is going to all the players for a vote then it will get approved, especially among the “rank and file” players (i.e. not the players at the Aaron Rodgers/Russell Wilson salary level).

This is where they fuck up, the other leagues stick together. Yet another reason why of the major sports footballs players union is the worst.

[BossChief]

Cap in 2020 will be around 217m if it passes, right?

[staylor26]

This is where they fuck up, the other leagues stick together. Yet another reason why of the major sports footballs players union is the worst.

Lol all that fear mongering for nothing.

[Wilson8]

Pittsburgh Steelers Center, Maurkice Pouncey says no...

“Man, this s—‘s so f—ing crazy man. I vote no,” Pouncey said. “F— that s—. Our NFLPA, the dudes at the top, the leaders, man that s— is all f—ing bulls—. F— that, they ain’t looking out for the best of the players. If y’all want my vote, the Pouncey twins vote no.

“If any player on any one of our teams, if y’all are hurting for rent money or anything while we’re going through this lockout, call us. We’ve got way more money than what they had back in the day. We ain’t got to worry about that. All the vets on each team, stand the f— up. Stand up and show these guys that we care about them. Man I care about all you young players. I love you guys to death. I ain’t going to let y’all down. Trust and believe.

“They’re trying to sign a bulls— a– deal, just so these motherf—ers can sit there and the president can smile and say they got something done. You didn’t get s— done.”

I wonder what part of the deal he does not like? More money, more benefits? Do they actually have the CBA now so they can read through it?

[BigRedChief]

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[Mecca]

Pittsburgh Steelers Center, Maurkice Pouncey says no...



I wonder what part of the deal he does not like? More money, more benefits? Do they actually have the CBA now so they can read through it?

It's probably because they don't get 50/50 like the other leagues and the healthcare...

[tredadda]

Pittsburgh Steelers Center, Maurkice Pouncey says no...



I wonder what part of the deal he does not like? More money, more benefits? Do they actually have the CBA now so they can read through it?

Most likely the same thing almost all the players seem against which is a 17th game.

[comochiefsfan]

Most likely the same thing almost all the players seem against which is a 17th game.

The owners thumping their chests for player safety and then clearly demonstrating that they actually couldn't care less about it might have something to do with it.

[Mecca]

The owners thumping their chests for player safety and then clearly demonstrating that they actually couldn't care less about it might have something to do with it.

Well the players should also be demanding lifetime healthcare and all that, it's on them for accepting deals without those things.

[tredadda]

The owners thumping their chests for player safety and then clearly demonstrating that they actually couldn't care less about it might have something to do with it.

Anyone who thinks that the owners care about the players or their safety outside of from a monetary standpoint is fooling themselves.

[comochiefsfan]

Anyone who thinks that the owners care about the players or their safety outside of from a monetary standpoint is fooling themselves.

Well yeah. Billionaires don't usually get to where they are in life by being super nice compassionate people.

[Mecca]

Here seem to be the things that have them pissed off...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All of this!!! ������������������������������������ <a href="https://t.co/XdBKJpGkw3">https://t.co/XdBKJpGkw3</a></p>&mdash; David Bakhtiari (@DavidBakhtiari) <a href="https://twitter.com/DavidBakhtiari/status/1232425816354480128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yup. Once again our leadership refrains from prioritizing its thousands of hurting former players for a small, short term raise for its young players. Time for new leadership. <a href="https://t.co/OinvsJPpqg">https://t.co/OinvsJPpqg</a></p>&mdash; TJ Lang (@TJLang70) <a href="https://twitter.com/TJLang70/status/1232673466299625473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So can we just let an executive group of NFL agents be a part of our counsel to negotiate our CBA?!? This is rediculous...</p>&mdash; David Bakhtiari (@DavidBakhtiari) <a href="https://twitter.com/DavidBakhtiari/status/1232684256805048323?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I don’t believe this statement is accurate Adam. NBA and NHL get 50% and MLB gets 48%-52% on player-owner revenue split! <a href="https://t.co/vqj1o9jWW5">https://t.co/vqj1o9jWW5</a></p>&mdash; Terron Armstead (@T_Armstead72) <a href="https://twitter.com/T_Armstead72/status/1232708432098136064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I implore all of the current players to reach out to their agents and consult with them before voting on the CBA proposal. Please get informed by the people who YOU chose to give a percentage of YOUR contract to. Remember, they will act in YOUR best interest. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLPA?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLPA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CBA?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CBA</a></p>&mdash; David Bakhtiari (@DavidBakhtiari) <a href="https://twitter.com/DavidBakhtiari/status/1232721076129386496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mecca]

Pittsburgh Steelers Center, Maurkice Pouncey says no...



I wonder what part of the deal he does not like? More money, more benefits? Do they actually have the CBA now so they can read through it?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">💯 <a href="https://t.co/E3UITUrYXS">pic.twitter.com/E3UITUrYXS</a></p>&mdash; Erica Danielle (@CoachE15) <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachE15/status/1232723556741586944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mecca]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/NBA?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NBA</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/MLB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MLB</a> are doing it right.<br>Players come first.<br><br>ALL <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NFL</a> players deserve the same. <br><br>WE should not rush the next 10 YEARS for Today’s satisfaction.<br><br>I VOTE NO.</p>&mdash; Russell Wilson (@DangeRussWilson) <a href="https://twitter.com/DangeRussWilson/status/1232685882915872769?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[InChiefsHeaven]

Wow, they are really pissed off about this. I wish one of them would actually say what the problem is, instead of just saying this is a shit deal...Is it just the revenue sharing?

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

I love all the high dollar players coming out and dogging the NFLPA. Yet they don’t wanna be part of the NFLPA executive committee to negotiation the deal with owners. ( God forbid they give a little of their time)

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Lifetime health care&quot; sounds great but is impractical in the case of NFL players for myriad reasons. I wrote about that in this CBA piece last July: <a href="https://t.co/DRlmHCzhRY">https://t.co/DRlmHCzhRY</a> <a href="https://t.co/hzUIbgGVhA">https://t.co/hzUIbgGVhA</a></p>&mdash; Dan Graziano (@DanGrazianoESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanGrazianoESPN/status/1232657969361408000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[FloridaMan88]

In a weird way, the Coronavirus may actually be a factor in helping to create a sense of urgency to get a new CBA done so the the NFL can jump into the TV/media negotiations.

From The Athletic...

An underlying theme of the NFL’s push to get an early renewal of the collective bargaining agreement is to strike while the economy is hot and a surfeit of media companies — traditional and streamers — are clamoring for more NFL games.

Then came Monday’s 1,031-point drop in the Dow Jones Industrial Average as fears about the coronavirus upending the global economy spooked the markets. The equity swoon comes as the NFLPA’s leadership meets with key NFL owners Tuesday in a high-stakes faceoff, apparently to seek added concessions in management’s proposal with a deadline looming. Owners are sure to use Monday’s market swoon as exhibit A in the dangers of waiting longer or giving more.

Already, top NFL officials, a key source said, have been nervously watching the market plunge of Viacom since it merged with AFC broadcaster CBS, dropping from about $30 billion market capitalization on the Dec. 4 merger of the two companies to less than $20 billion. CBS is expected to be a key bidder in a projected game of musical chairs for NFL TV rights that the league wants to turn to as soon as labor peace is secured. But remove CBS, and the bidding may not be as frothy. On the day of the merger, ViacomCBS’ stock price was $40.77. On Monday, it closed at $26.93, a 34 percent drop.

[ghak99]

I assume they voted for the list of players who represent them. After seeing that list of player reps, except for a few, all I can do it laugh at some of these rants.

[BigRedChief]

Wow, they are really pissed off about this. I wish one of them would actually say what the problem is, instead of just saying this is a shit deal...Is it just the revenue sharing?heard on NFL live that 60% of the Players association members make the league minimum. Most will be in the league 2-3 years, at best. $100K raise for those players ain’t pocket change. The deal only needs a simple majority. It’s going to pass.

[Mecca]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Lifetime health care&quot; sounds great but is impractical in the case of NFL players for myriad reasons. I wrote about that in this CBA piece last July: <a href="https://t.co/DRlmHCzhRY">https://t.co/DRlmHCzhRY</a> <a href="https://t.co/hzUIbgGVhA">https://t.co/hzUIbgGVhA</a></p>&mdash; Dan Graziano (@DanGrazianoESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanGrazianoESPN/status/1232657969361408000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Why do other sports have it?

The NFL wants to be cheap and players are short sighted and let it happen, that's the sum of it. Anyone who can realistically say players the NFL uses to make billions on can't have healthcare because it's to complicated is a league shill.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Why do other sports have it?

The NFL wants to be cheap and players are short sighted and let it happen, that's the sum of it. Anyone who can realistically say players the NFL uses to make billions on can't have healthcare because it's to complicated is a league shill.

Did you not read the article? Worker’s compensation is a huge issue.

[Mecca]

Did you not read the article? Worker’s compensation is a huge issue.

Yea it's called the players care more about the money, fuck the dudes that came before them and yea it won't happen to me etc etc. The owners know this so it's never taken care of.

[SAUTO]

Why do other sports have it?

The NFL wants to be cheap and players are short sighted and let it happen, that's the sum of it. Anyone who can realistically say players the NFL uses to make billions on can't have healthcare because it's to complicated is a league shill.

well there's about 200 players in the nba every year and 2000 in the nfl...


the nba has about 8 billion in revenue a year and the nfl has about 8.1 billion in revenue a year.

if you cant figure it out i dont know what to tell you.

[SAUTO]

Yea it's called the players care more about the money, fuck the dudes that came before them and yea it won't happen to me etc etc. The owners know this so it's never taken care of.

or , you know, these guys that are making at least 100k a year could just pay for insurance like everyone else...

[RINGLEADER]

Just find it odd for them to say no to a vote just a few days ago and then decide to change their mind if there is nothing new in it. This will pass and there is no doubt in my mind about that.

Putting aside the specifics and intricacies of the deal, seems to me anyone with an existing deal and/or on the tail end of their careers probably is a no vote. Younger players about to go into FA should sign up now.

[Hoover]

A Bird In The Hand Is Worth Two In The Bush

I get that they want more, and don't like the extra game, but we all knew it was coming.

The players also realize that an approved deal will allow the NFL to sign HUGE new TV contracts. Don't fool yourselves, they want that money just as bad as the owners do.

[Hoover]

A Bird In The Hand Is Worth Two In The Bush

I get that they want more, and don't like the extra game, but we all knew it was coming.

The players also realize that an approved deal will allow the NFL to sign HUGE new TV contracts. Don't fool yourselves, they want that money just as bad as the owners do.

[Bill Brasky]

Yea it's called the players care more about the money, fuck the dudes that came before them and yea it won't happen to me etc etc. The owners know this so it's never taken care of.

If you read the article there are two kinds healthcare being discussed. 1) treatment for former players for injuries sustained during work 2) healthcare for former players and their families for non-workplace related injury and sickness.

Scenario one is really confusing and is a shit show because of different states have different workers comp laws. The NFL can't make a rule for all 32 teams because they all have different workers comp laws to follow. An NFL player in California is significantly more likely to win a workers comp suit than one in Ohio.

The article did a great job on scenario two: "As for non-injury lifetime health care, the NFLPA says it did the research into the potential cost and found it prohibitive. One NFLPA source said the union went to "four or five" different major health care providers, and only one of them was willing to do the actuarial work and offer an estimate. The estimated cost of lifetime health care for players and their families was between $1.5 billion and $2 billion per year. Carving that amount out of the players' share of revenue under the current CBA, the union estimates that the players' share would effectively drop from its level of about 47% to about 43%. That's a heavy cost at a time when the players are interesting in increasing their proportional share of league revenues."

My point is that it would be fair for the owners and the players to split the cost of healthcare insurance. As it stands now, the owners are saying fuck you, it comes completely out of your pot of the money.

edit: And just to pile on, the playoff changes suck balls. I don't mind the extra regular season game though.

[Bill Brasky]

or , you know, these guys that are making at least 100k a year could just pay for insurance like everyone else...

Because everyone else doesn't have jobs that are proven to damage their life expectancy and brain function. Plus the majority of these guys aren't good at planning ahead. The NFL should help them or have some sort of program in place.

[BossChief]

Because everyone else doesn't have jobs that are proven to damage their life expectancy and brain function. Plus the majority of these guys aren't good at planning ahead. The NFL should help them or have some sort of program in place.

You obviously know very little about what the league does to help players plan ahead.

You can lead a hoe to water, but ya can’t make her think.

Ya dig?

[Bill Brasky]

You obviously know very little about what the league does to help players plan ahead.

You can lead a hoe to water, but ya can’t make her think.

Ya dig?

I absolutely do know about retirement planning the NFL does for players. Can you explain to me what they do for healthcare for the families of players?

[ghak99]

Because everyone else doesn't have jobs that are proven to damage their life expectancy and brain function. Plus the majority of these guys aren't good at planning ahead. The NFL should help them or have some sort of program in place.

People in the real world don't have jobs that damage their body and brain? :spock:

[Titty Meat]

So I take this wont pass?

[staylor26]

So I take this wont pass?

No, it will pass.

[Mecca]

It will probably pass because the NFL owners are smart enough to cater the deal to the majority of players who don't make a lot of money so 100k looks like a lot to them.

[KChiefs1]

So I take this wont pass?


It will definitely pass.

[jjchieffan]

So, is the vote happening today or not? The OP says yes, but a tweet was posted earlier saying that it won't be for weeks. Nobody replied to that either way.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

So, is the vote happening today or not? The OP says yes, but a tweet was posted earlier saying that it won't be for weeks. Nobody replied to that either way.

Any where from tomorrow or two weeks. Lawyers are drawing up the paper work.

[SAUTO]

Because everyone else doesn't have jobs that are proven to damage their life expectancy and brain function. Plus the majority of these guys aren't good at planning ahead. The NFL should help them or have some sort of program in place.

There are definitely jobs that cause that other than the nfl...


And who’s fault is it that they aren’t good at planning ahead?

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Any guesses?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just got this text from an NFL player on the NFLPA vote <br><br>“Idgaf about an extra game we get paid lol”</p>&mdash; Mike Renner (@PFF_Mike) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Mike/status/1232788355689086976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[SAUTO]

Any guesses?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just got this text from an NFL player on the NFLPA vote <br><br>“Idgaf about an extra game we get paid lol”</p>&mdash; Mike Renner (@PFF_Mike) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Mike/status/1232788355689086976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

There are more players that feel that way than you know

[Bob Dole]

More than 50% of the players in the league are playing at league min. I think it passes.

[OnTheWarpath15]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My thoughts. # <a href="https://t.co/VOmCSNiI4f">pic.twitter.com/VOmCSNiI4f</a></p>&mdash; Aaron Rodgers (@AaronRodgers12) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronRodgers12/status/1232798220729962496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Marcellus]

I absolutely do know about retirement planning the NFL does for players. Can you explain to me what they do for healthcare for the families of players?

I would love to know how the NFL is responsible for the lifetime healthcare of the players family.

Please do justify that idea.

[Marcellus]

There are definitely jobs that cause that other than the nfl...


And who’s fault is it that they aren’t good at planning ahead?

These systems already exist, if you work for SAUTO and you lose a thumb on the job workman's comp pays a lump sum.

All on the job injuries have a litigated cost.

If you make a real career out of the NFL and cant figure out how to make medical insurance affordable until you are 60 or 65 and qualify for medicate then thats your own damn fault.

The NFL is no more risky for most players than many other jobs these days.(Police, first responders, military, pipe fitter, construction worker etc...) Its all a crock of shit narrative driven by the players association and dramatizing the sport itself.

[BossChief]

I absolutely do know about retirement planning the NFL does for players. Can you explain to me what they do for healthcare for the families of players?

The same as any other job.

Maybe you should go to the kids table while the adults are talking.

[BigRedChief]

well there's about 200 players in the nba every year and 2000 in the nfl...


the nba has about 8 billion in revenue a year and the nfl has about 8.1 billion in revenue a year.

if you cant figure it out i dont know what to tell you.where are you getting those numbers?
NFL 11.2 Billion
NBA 6. 3 billion

The NFL has double the revenue of most sports. Nothing is even close.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sports_leagues_by_revenue

[DaneMcCloud]

where are you getting those numbers?
NFL 11.2 Billion
NBA 6. 3 billion

The NFL has double the revenue of most sports. Nothing is even close.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sports_leagues_by_revenue

MLB hit $10.7 Billion in revenues last year

[Shiver Me Timbers]

MLB hit $10.7 Billion in revenues last year

The Astros will be responsible for that going down a bill or two in the coming couple of yrs

[BigRedChief]

MLB hit $10.7 Billion in revenues last yeargeezz and the ratings for the World Series and the playoffs are for shit.

[Bill Brasky]

The same as any other job.

Maybe you should go to the kids table while the adults are talking.

Cute. I guess you don’t have much to bring to the table on this one.

[BossChief]

Cute. I guess you don’t have much to bring to the table on this one.

Before the rookies set foot on the field for even a preseason game they go through a whole seminar on the importance of investing your money and saving it. It’s ran by the league and has a bunch of former players involved to influence players that are coming into the league to make smart decisions.

What employers cover former employees and their families health care for life after they no longer work for them?

ESPECIALLY CONTRACTORS. LIKE NFL PLAYERS.

If a player coming through the league in today’s game goes bankrupt or doesn’t take care of their own families health care after football, that’s on them.

1) they left the league a millionaire even if they are a late rounder or an UDFA that played 3 years.

2) they left college hopefully with a free degree.

3) They have been shown and told exactly how to protect your financial future.


After that, it’s on them and there’s nothing wrong with that.

[jjjayb]

What a bunch of whiny babies. The truth is any one of us on this board would kill to play in the NFL. If you don't like it, then leave. Go play in the fucking xfl you bunch of whiny bitches.

[BossChief]

Most of the vocal opposition to the CBA are older players looking for another payday that want to work less.

[dlphg9]

What a bunch of whiny babies. The truth is any one of us on this board would kill to play in the NFL. If you don't like it, then leave. Go play in the ****ing xfl you bunch of whiny bitches.

Yeah well no one on this board can go play, because no one on here has anywhere close to the skill of an NFL player and no one wants to watch and damn sure doesn't want to pay to watch a bunch of fat bald fucks with goatees playing football. That's why they get paid the big bucks because without these extremely talented individuals there would be no NFL, you incredibly dumb bitch.

Why would a player that wants more money go play for the XFL? Hell no one on here has the talent to even play in that shit league and none of those guys can make it in the NFL. Why the hell do you think all these different leagues shut down? Because people wanna watch the best athletes play, so these athletes can ask for whatever they want. Are you seriously that jealous?

[duncan_idaho]

Taking the game check cap off game 17 is a good move. Getting the players to 48 or 48.5 percent of revenue is a good deal.

I'd like to see the NFL players union work with the league to set up some retirement and healthcare services (pensions) like the MLB. The money is there, just a matter of getting guys to literally pay dues.

For a career that requires sacrifices from the body, those make sense.

[SAUTO]

where are you getting those numbers?
NFL 11.2 Billion
NBA 6. 3 billion

The NFL has double the revenue of most sports. Nothing is even close.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sports_leagues_by_revenue

sorry i didnt use wikipedia
https://www.statista.com/statistics/193467/total-league-revenue-of-the-nba-since-2005/

same site has nfl at 14.2 was wrong on that one.


still 500 players to 2000.

[SAUTO]

Most of the vocal opposition to the CBA are older players looking for another payday that want to work less.

i talked to a friend last night and he said they want SOMETHING, the top paid guys arent getting much here. but thats because they make millions. Their pay isnt going to go up. They stopped suspending guys to MJ failed tests several years ago (he said if someone was suspended for it there was something else going on). If they really wanted to make moves they should have cut out the funding rule.


so now those guys want lifetime healthcare for themselves and their families. guys that have made over 100 million dollars...

[Mecca]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Get the franchise tag out the new CBA</p>&mdash; Allen Robinson II (@AllenRobinson) <a href="https://twitter.com/AllenRobinson/status/1232695528560963585?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just kno I’m lockout ready!!!��</p>&mdash; Darius Slay (@_bigplayslay23) <a href="https://twitter.com/_bigplayslay23/status/1232878448789610503?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Skyy God]

Most of the vocal opposition to the CBA are older players looking for another payday that want to work less.

Keeping the same 16 game schedule is working less??

CP, supporting billionaires over millionaires since 2000.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CBA goes out to players for a vote at 9 am ET. Voting window will stay open 7 days, per source.</p>&mdash; Dan Graziano (@DanGrazianoESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanGrazianoESPN/status/1235563424299483137?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Specifically, player voting will close at 11:59 pm ET on Thursday, March 12.</p>&mdash; Dan Graziano (@DanGrazianoESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanGrazianoESPN/status/1235565342795223040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There will be a seven-day voting window (through March 12) and the vote will be held electronically, I’m told.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/1235566504252342274?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[dlphg9]

Hmm wonder if there are any changes?

[RealSNR]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Get the franchise tag out the new CBA</p>— Allen Robinson II (@AllenRobinson) <a href="https://twitter.com/AllenRobinson/status/1232695528560963585?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just kno I’m lockout ready!!!��</p>— Darius Slay (@_bigplayslay23) <a href="https://twitter.com/_bigplayslay23/status/1232878448789610503?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


The franchise tag ain’t something you need to worry about, Allen. No franchise would ever slap the tag on your ass

[InChiefsHeaven]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There will be a seven-day voting window (through March 12) and the vote will be held electronically, I’m told.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/1235566504252342274?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

7 days to vote...WTF? That's 7 days to fuck with guys who are not voting the way you want...weird...Or is it 6 days to review it, and vote on day 7?

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is the full, 456-page CBA that the NFLPA distributed to players this morning for a vote on ratification: <a href="https://t.co/5w0r5iWdXl">https://t.co/5w0r5iWdXl</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1235571964175175680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[dlphg9]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is the full, 456-page CBA that the NFLPA distributed to players this morning for a vote on ratification: <a href="https://t.co/5w0r5iWdXl">https://t.co/5w0r5iWdXl</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1235571964175175680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Just finished reading. Everything looks great!

[chefsos]

Everyone needs to post what page number you got to before your eyes began to glaze over.

9.

[Gravedigger]

With the reports that the NFL ownership wants to force this through quickly to avoid issues negotiating the new TV deals, if I were the players I'd step back and try to get a little more. Players seem like they have time, Owners apparently are on a fixed time schedule which could add a little pressure in the players favor.

[ghak99]

Everyone needs to post what page number you got to before your eyes began to glaze over.

9.

It would be interesting to know the percentage of players that actually read it word for word on their own. I would imagine some of the conversations while they're going over with immediate family would be quite hilarious.

[Mecca]

JC Tretter, a graduate of Cornell University with a degree in industrial labor relations.

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[Chief Northman]

Yeah, this isn't passing.....

[The Franchise]

That holdouts one is going to be an issue.

[staylor26]

Yeah, this isn't passing.....

Lol yet just about all reports are it’s fully expected to pass.

[Mecca]

That holdouts one is pretty bad, it takes away all leverage from it where players don't have that as a negotiation tool anymore.

[Marcellus]

I just saw a tweet by PFT that says there will no longer be any type of substance abuse positive drug test suspension for any drug.

[SAUTO]

well im pretty sure he's not right about the media kicker thing.

they moved the % up to 48.8 of revenue in any season that has a 17th week and took out the media kicker clause last tuesday from what i was told...


what else is he wrong about?

[SAUTO]

I just saw a tweet by PFT that says there will no longer be any type of substance abuse positive drug test suspension for any drug.

i heard that was for any drug that has a medical need. like MJ


EDIT: looks like that is for a 1st or 2nd offense.


they can still be suspended at some point

[SAUTO]

That holdouts one is pretty bad, it takes away all leverage from it where players don't have that as a negotiation tool anymore.

doesnt that only apply to players under contract or team control? why should they be able to hold out?

[Marcellus]

i heard that was for any drug that has a medical need. like MJ


EDIT: looks like that is for a 1st or 2nd offense.


they can still be suspended at some point

Ah nope it depends on the number of votes, and suspension only occurs if players fail to cooperate with testing etc...multiple times.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/05/new-cba-removes-all-substance-abuse-suspensions-for-positive-drug-tests/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

If at least 50 percent plus one of the dues-paying members of the NFL Players Association vote in favor of the proposed CBA, no player will be suspended during the next decade for testing positive for marijuana or any other substance of abuse.


The 2020 substance-abuse policy, a link to which has been distributed to all players eligible to vote via email from NFLPA general counsel Tom DePaso, removes all suspensions for positive tests. Instead, players will be subject to fines only for a positive drug test.

Players in stage one of the program who test positive face no penalty at all, other than being advanced to stage two. In stage two, positive tests result only in fines.


For the first violation, the player loses one half of a game check. For the second violation, he loses a week’s pay. For the third violation, it’s two weeks’ salary. For the fourth and all subsequent violations, it’s a three-game fine. While that can get expensive, the player will still be allowed to play.

Suspensions under the new CBA arise only from a failure to cooperate with testing or clinical care while in stage two, and a suspension happens only at the fourth violation (three games). The fifth violation results in a four-game suspension, the sixth violation triggers an eight-game suspension, and the seventh violation leads to banishment for at least a year.

Stage three of the substance-abuse program has been removed from the new CBA.

While the harshest penalty of a minimum banishment of at least one year still exists under the new CBA, a player who fails to cooperate with testing or clinical care seven different times arguably doesn’t want to remain in the league. Players who cooperate with testing and their clinical programs will never be banished. Indeed, they’ll never even be suspended, no matter how many times they test positive.



Sounds like if you are willing to continue being tested and pay fines you can keep playing though you may be playing for free at some point.

[BossChief]

It’s going to pass and most teams won’t get any cap relief this upcoming season, even though there will be a 4m bump in the cap. That 100k rule will eat that bump up completely. Or at least within a million.

Deals will need to be structured with low year 1 cap hits and larger as the contract matures.

[SAUTO]

It’s going to pass and most teams won’t get any cap relief this upcoming season, even though there will be a 4m bump in the cap. That 100k rule will eat that bump up completely. Or at least within a million.

Deals will need to be structured with low year 1 cap hits and larger as the contract matures.

the cap is going up at least 16 million from the 19-20 season...188 to 204(projected)

[SAUTO]

Ah nope it depends on the number of votes, and suspension only occurs if players fail to cooperate with testing etc...multiple times.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/05/new-cba-removes-all-substance-abuse-suspensions-for-positive-drug-tests/amp/?__twitter_impression=true



Sounds like if you are willing to continue being tested and pay fines you can keep playing though you may be playing for free at some point.

and cooperate with the clinical care procedures

[Wilson8]

Also just heard that there are actually close to 2,500 NFLPA members that can vote.

Originally they said there was between 1,900 to 2,000 members. Because there are players that pay dues, but not on NFL rosters, that can vote, it bumps number up to roughly 2,500.

With the new NFL CBA expansion of rosters, it brings an opportunity for the free agent player to possibly be on a team. Those players are going to be voting yes.

I know there are veterans that will vote no, but the CBA only requires a simple majority to pass.

I would be greatly shocked if the NFL CBA does not pass.

[Ubeja Vontell]

Totally,100% forget about pot, treat it like a .....0.

No on 17 games.

[Chief Northman]

Totally,100% forget about pot, treat it like a .....0.

No on 17 games.

Dafuq....

[Bob Dole]

Totally,100% forget about pot, treat it like a .....0.

No on 17 games.

Pretty sure the time for line item veto has passed.

[BossChief]

the cap is going up at least 16 million from the 19-20 season...188 to 204(projected)

I’m talking about above that.

204 and 2 1.5m exemptions

[jjchieffan]

Keeping the same 16 game schedule is working less??

CP, supporting billionaires over millionaires since 2000.

Lol. Actually, this should be opening everyone's eyes to the real conflict here. It's not between players and owners. It's between the stars and the common players. Always has been. $200 million is more than enough for a 53 man squad. But the stars are wanting too big of a piece and that's hurting the rest. This CBA has done mine for those nonstars and little for the stars. And look at them make a stink. Lol. No player needs $35 million per year to play. No non-quarterback needs $20 million per year to play. They will be millionaires for the rest of their lives on half of that. It's about time that the greedy stars got exposed. I hope this thing passes with a 3)4 margin and the nonstars get their share.

[BossChief]

the cap is going up at least 16 million from the 19-20 season...188 to 204(projected)

Add 100k to each min guy....

[dlphg9]

Add 100k to each min guy....

Thats like what? 10 dudes?

[BossChief]

Thats like what? 10 dudes?

RGR made it sound like it’s closer to 30

[dlphg9]

Lol. Actually, this should be opening everyone's eyes to the real conflict here. It's not between players and owners. It's between the stars and the common players. Always has been. $200 million is more than enough for a 53 man squad. But the stars are wanting too big of a piece and that's hurting the rest. This CBA has done mine for those nonstars and little for the stars. And look at them make a stink. Lol. No player needs $35 million per year to play. No non-quarterback needs $20 million per year to play. They will be millionaires for the rest of their lives on half of that. It's about time that the greedy stars got exposed. I hope this thing passes with a 3)4 margin and the nonstars get their share.

The players are much more important than the owners. If the players put their money together they could easily find people to run the league and they'd make shit tons. If the players held out and they only had crap players then theyd eventually go broke. No one cares to watch shitty football.

[BleedingRed]

The players are much more important than the owners. If the players put their money together they could easily find people to run the league and they'd make shit tons. If the players held out and they only had crap players then theyd eventually go broke. No one cares to watch shitty football.

Lol no,

No.... god no

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Interesting <a href="https://t.co/ZHcukvLGFx">https://t.co/ZHcukvLGFx</a></p>&mdash; Big Cat (@BarstoolBigCat) <a href="https://twitter.com/BarstoolBigCat/status/1236001767101472768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[BossChief]

The average player is probably like “fuck you and your 2m+ GAMECHECKS when I’m just trying to make a career making 700k for a whole season”

[Dayze]

lack of response probably less to do with the CBA, and more to the fact not a lot of people like Aaron Rodgers.

[St. Patty's Fire]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Interesting <a href="https://t.co/ZHcukvLGFx">https://t.co/ZHcukvLGFx</a></p>&mdash; Big Cat (@BarstoolBigCat) <a href="https://twitter.com/BarstoolBigCat/status/1236001767101472768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I can only imagine the condescending tone of those emails

[staylor26]

The average player is probably like “fuck you and your 2m+ GAMECHECKS when I’m just trying to make a career making 700k for a whole season”

Exactly. That’s why it’s hilarious that some think this doesn’t get done.

[Chief Northman]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Interesting <a href="https://t.co/ZHcukvLGFx">https://t.co/ZHcukvLGFx</a></p>&mdash; Big Cat (@BarstoolBigCat) <a href="https://twitter.com/BarstoolBigCat/status/1236001767101472768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nice of Aaron to “educate them”.

Douchey douche

[Kiimo]

Aaron is right.

[ghak99]

I can only imagine the condescending tone of those emails

It would be awesome if one of them leaked it.

It probably went over about as well as the "rent money" comments. Wealthy stars making millions preaching to guys just trying to get a few good years of a decent income stacked up doesn't seem to be well received.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

They can reruns of last season

[lewdog]

How can anyone side with the billionaire owners on this?

The players continue to get fucked.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

The only ones "fucked" are the average Joe fans who are price gouged

[jjchieffan]

How can anyone side with the billionaire owners on this?

The players continue to get ****ed.

In case you haven't noticed, this is no longer a dispute between the owners and the players. It has been exposed for what it's always been. The lunch pail guys getting next to nothing because of the greedy of the elite few demanding more money than they can spend in 5 lifetimes. Greedy Dak Prescott turned down $33 million per year. That is a big FU to the rest of his team. He's saying that he doesn't care if they get cut because of him being overpaid. Well, those guys have a voice now. They can't vote to approve this CBA and give a big FU back to Prescott and Rodgers and the rest of the greedy assholes who are taking more than their fair share of a $200 million cap and leaving crumbs for their teammates

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

I don't know about Dak, but if I was Watson. I would price my way out from the Texans & their love of O'Brein

[Red Dawg]

Just sign the damn thing. Players won't get what they want and never will. Owners of the ranch own cattle. Players are their cattle.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">😂😂 amazing. Players voice concerns about 17 games being the biggest reason they vote NO. So now the NFL leaks they want 18 games if this CBA proposal doesn’t pass. Take this deal players or get 18 games and less money in March 2021. <a href="https://t.co/irCm91RCA3">https://t.co/irCm91RCA3</a></p>&mdash; Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) <a href="https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1236383667620061186?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[FloridaMan88]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">😂😂 amazing. Players voice concerns about 17 games being the biggest reason they vote NO. So now the NFL leaks they want 18 games if this CBA proposal doesn’t pass. Take this deal players or get 18 games and less money in March 2021. <a href="https://t.co/irCm91RCA3">https://t.co/irCm91RCA3</a></p>&mdash; Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) <a href="https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1236383667620061186?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I think this was intentionally leaked by the NFL to put pressure on the players to approve the CBA.

[Bob Dole]

I don't know about Dak, but if I was Watson. I would price my way out from the Texans & their love of O'Brein

While I like Dak the young man, Dak the QB is way to full of himself as far as his value.

[ghak99]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">😂😂 amazing. Players voice concerns about 17 games being the biggest reason they vote NO. So now the NFL leaks they want 18 games if this CBA proposal doesn’t pass. Take this deal players or get 18 games and less money in March 2021. <a href="https://t.co/irCm91RCA3">https://t.co/irCm91RCA3</a></p>&mdash; Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) <a href="https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1236383667620061186?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

How do the "cheap" players feel about 18 games?

Many of them are only in the league for ~3 years, so do they see it as being an opportunity for "one more check while it lasts" and a good thing? Obviously the big money guys would be a "hell no".

[scho63]

This sounds strange to focus on but I've never seen a professional send a centered-justified response in any legal correspondence.

Wonder if this is real or someone else copied and pasted this? :hmmm:

[Red Dawg]

How do the "cheap" players feel about 18 games?

Many of them are only in the league for ~3 years, so do they see it as being an opportunity for "one more check while it lasts" and a good thing? Obviously the big money guys would be a "hell no".

No shit. The cheap players should all say yes.

[PHOG]

No shit. The cheap players should all say yes.
I don't know, does each player vote, or is it just each team's representative that votes?

[Chief Northman]

I don't know, does each player vote, or is it just each team's representative that votes?

Every player

[Mecca]

Nice of Aaron to “educate them”.

Douchey douche

He was voted by that team as their player rep, it's his job to do that as a player rep, you know that right?

[FloridaMan88]

An economic populist backlash from the less rich players against the 1% salaried players.

An interesting development from this CBA process.

[BigRedChief]

An economic populist backlash from the less rich players against the 1% salaried players.

An interesting development from this CBA process.60% make around the league minimum. 50%+1 passes the new CBA.

[PHOG]

Every player

Thanks

[HemiEd]

The only ones "****ed" are the average Joe fans who are price gouged

Same as it always was

[DaneMcCloud]

The only ones "fucked" are the average Joe fans who are price gouged

How so?

The “average” NFL fan watches games on Over-The-Air Broadcast TV, also know as “Free TV”.

How are they impacted by the new CBA?

[Chief Northman]

He was voted by that team as their player rep, it's his job to do that as a player rep, you know that right?

Educating is one thing. Promoting his bias regarding the deal and pressuring players to vote a certain way is not.

[Red Dawg]

Players are delusinal. They have zero choice.

[tyecopeland]

In case you haven't noticed, this is no longer a dispute between the owners and the players. It has been exposed for what it's always been. The lunch pail guys getting next to nothing because of the greedy of the elite few demanding more money than they can spend in 5 lifetimes. Greedy Dak Prescott turned down $33 million per year. That is a big FU to the rest of his team. He's saying that he doesn't care if they get cut because of him being overpaid. Well, those guys have a voice now. They can't vote to approve this CBA and give a big FU back to Prescott and Rodgers and the rest of the greedy assholes who are taking more than their fair share of a $200 million cap and leaving crumbs for their teammates

It's only that way because the owners make it that way. The owners make a salary cap to protect them from themselves. A free open market could exist and the players wouldn't be pitted against each other. But they are because the owners want them to be. It's still billionaires vs millionaires but the billionaires use the less than millionaires as pawns.

[Valiant]

Before the rookies set foot on the field for even a preseason game they go through a whole seminar on the importance of investing your money and saving it. It’s ran by the league and has a bunch of former players involved to influence players that are coming into the league to make smart decisions.

What employers cover former employees and their families health care for life after they no longer work for them?

ESPECIALLY CONTRACTORS. LIKE NFL PLAYERS.

If a player coming through the league in today’s game goes bankrupt or doesn’t take care of their own families health care after football, that’s on them.

1) they left the league a millionaire even if they are a late rounder or an UDFA that played 3 years.

2) they left college hopefully with a free degree.

3) They have been shown and told exactly how to protect your financial future.


After that, it’s on them and there’s nothing wrong with that.

Most places my family has retired from has allowed health coverage thru them.

Bare minimum I think the league should offer lifetime health to anyone played 3,4,5 years. Or career injured.

[BossChief]

Most places my family has retired from has allowed health coverage thru them.

Bare minimum I think the league should offer lifetime health to anyone played 3,4,5 years. Or career injured.

I think we’re talking about two different things.

[Dante84]

So when do we get our answer?

[BossChief]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Specifically, player voting will close at 11:59 pm ET on Thursday, March 12.</p>&mdash; Dan Graziano (@DanGrazianoESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanGrazianoESPN/status/1235565342795223040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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[Chiefshrink]

While I like Dak the young man, Dak the QB is way to full of himself as far as his value.

Yep. He is going the way of Cam Newton unless he becomes more of a student of the game. Dak can't carry a team against a good foe and it has been shown over and over against good teams. He may have great stats in the last 4 yrs but the NFL is about winning as Jerry has stated. When Elliot was gone those 6 games Dak got exposed.

[Chiefshrink]

Most places my family has retired from has allowed health coverage thru them.

Bare minimum I think the league should offer lifetime health to anyone played 3,4,5 years. Or career injured.

I don't know of any co. that carries their former employees for life with continued health insurance. You are probably hearing them talk about COBRA going into Medicare with a supplement which is "on them now" once they retire paying the whole premium which is very expensive. COBRA allows the former employee to stay on with that particular health insurance carrier and not be dropped immediately(in case they are uninsurable because of pre-existing conditions).

[Sorce]

I don't know, does each player vote, or is it just each team's representative that votes?Everyone that pays nflpa dues so even some free agents who aren't on a team.

Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk

[DRM08]

60% make around the league minimum. 50%+1 passes the new CBA.

Smart move by the owners to give a really nice raise to the bottom feeders of the league. Better benefits for them and so forth. It's a dirt cheap investment by the owners to get the 17th game, extra playoff games, and a bigger TV contract.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">An update on our CBA vote: <a href="https://t.co/d8P5KoFYP6">pic.twitter.com/d8P5KoFYP6</a></p>&mdash; NFLPA (@NFLPA) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLPA/status/1237058355757297664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Lol this is getting old

[The Franchise]

Sounds to me like they aren’t getting the turnout they thought they would.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

All talk no action

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Interesting from <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TomPelissero</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Packers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Packers</a> QB Aaron Rogers, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> DL JJ Watt, and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Seahawks?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Seahawks</a> QB Russell Wilson were not present for the NFLPA meeting. All three have been vocal about voting against the new CBA… but were not there to state their case.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1237067189620027393?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[staylor26]

All talk no action

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Interesting from <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TomPelissero</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Packers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Packers</a> QB Aaron Rogers, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> DL JJ Watt, and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Seahawks?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Seahawks</a> QB Russell Wilson were not present for the NFLPA meeting. All three have been vocal about voting against the new CBA… but were not there to state their case.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1237067189620027393?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Of course not. That was all grandstanding bs. They’re rich either way. What do they care?

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Russell Okung, one of the most outspoken opponents of the proposed Collective Bargaining Agreement, filed an unfair labor practice charge with the National Labor Relations Board on Monday, Ken Belson of the New York Times reports.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/09/russell-okung-accuses-nflpa-of-bad-faith-in-cba-negotiations/

[Kiimo]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I asked my lawyers <a href="https://twitter.com/meiselasb?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@meiselasb</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/markgeragos?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@markgeragos</a> to review all 456 pages of the proposed CBA. Attached is their summary. It’s a bigger disaster than we could have imagined <a href="https://t.co/sWXJwJw7YA">pic.twitter.com/sWXJwJw7YA</a></p>&mdash; Eric Reid (@E_Reid35) <a href="https://twitter.com/E_Reid35/status/1237026423111585792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[jjchieffan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I asked my lawyers <a href="https://twitter.com/meiselasb?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@meiselasb</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/markgeragos?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@markgeragos</a> to review all 456 pages of the proposed CBA. Attached is their summary. It’s a bigger disaster than we could have imagined <a href="https://t.co/sWXJwJw7YA">pic.twitter.com/sWXJwJw7YA</a></p>&mdash; Eric Reid (@E_Reid35) <a href="https://twitter.com/E_Reid35/status/1237026423111585792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I bet that you could find a lawyer for the owners that will write up just as compelling of an argument that the agreement is a great deal for the players. Funny thing about lawyers. You pay them to support your opinions. This means nothing. Reid went in there asking them to find problems to persuade others because he is against it.

[tyecopeland]

Apparently some players have asked to be able to change their votes and were denied.

[Chief Northman]

The NFLPA is a shitshow.

[Red Dawg]

Players act like they havr power. They dont and Okung is insane if he thinks he will win. The damn thing gives the 48% revenue. Thats somehow and insult. This is proof that players dont think like regular people.

[Hoover]

The NFLPA is a shitshow.

No the players are out of their league in these sorts of negotiations imo.

They need to do what the owners do, hire a professional to handle their affairs. There is a reason Roger makes 40m a year. Players vote in some dude and think they can get what they want. Never going to happen. If they didn’t want to play 17 games every star player should have been saying so all fucking year.

[DRM08]

I bet that you could find a lawyer for the owners that will write up just as compelling of an argument that the agreement is a great deal for the players. Funny thing about lawyers. You pay them to support your opinions. This means nothing. Reid went in there asking them to find problems to persuade others because he is against it.

Maybe so, but I think his lawyers make a valid point about the 10-year situation. Owners want to lock stuff down, knowing that the TV money is going to explode during the next 10 years. That's probably not a great deal for the players. I think the players should be pushing to knock this down to a 5-6 year deal.

[Mecca]

Players act like they havr power. They dont and Okung is insane if he thinks he will win. The damn thing gives the 48% revenue. Thats somehow and insult. This is proof that players dont think like regular people.

They would have power if they stood together like the MLBPA but they don't. Baseball players never get fucked and always get what they want because they will strike without question.

[Jerok]

Have they signed this piece of shit yet

[old_geezer]

Maybe so, but I think his lawyers make a valid point about the 10-year situation. Owners want to lock stuff down, knowing that the TV money is going to explode during the next 10 years. That's probably not a great deal for the players. I think the players should be pushing to knock this down to a 5-6 year deal.

I don't really get involved in the money aspect of football so this is just an observation from a long time fan; I think this next contract may be the last big increase for the NFL. I don't see the audience growing much more. It's like everything else that gets too much TV exposure.It grows stale. Already I skip several games because I'm not interested in either team and if they move teams outside of the USA there's not a snowball's chance in hell I'll care about any of them. Long story short: I think football may have peaked and they better take advantage while they can. :shrug:

[DaneMcCloud]

I don't really get involved in the money aspect of football so this is just an observation from a long time fan; I think this next contract may be the last big increase for the NFL. I don't see the audience growing much more. It's like everything else that gets too much TV exposure.It grows stale. Already I skip several games because I'm not interested in either team and if they move teams outside of the USA there's not a snowball's chance in hell I'll care about any of them. Long story short: I think football may have peaked and they better take advantage while they can. :shrug:

The NFL still has, by FAR, the largest TV audiences in America. There's nothing really even close these days. A Thursday Night NFL Game will have higher ratings than the World Series or the NBA Finals.

While programs like Two And A Half Men had ratings as high as 20 million viewers a week, the proliferation of streaming services and cutting cable have drastically reduced weekly Prime Time OTA broadcast ratings, regardless of the network or time slot.

The bottom line is that the NFL draws the most eyeballs each and every week, which is why the OTA networks and Streaming Services are willing to shell out record licensing fees in order to broadcast the games.

And once gambling is added to the equation, which should happen within the next 5 years. the salary cap is going to grow to ridiculous new heights, like $300 million dollars or more.

[FloridaMan88]

And meanwhile the stock values for the major media companies that the NFL is hoping to negotiate with for a massive new media rights deal... Comcast, Disney, Fox Corp., ViacomCBS to name a few... have gone way down the past few weeks.

The players seem completely oblivious to the macro-economic realities of the biggest revenue driver for the proposed new CBA... the upcoming new media rights deal.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

JC Tretter elected new president of the NFLPA

[Mecca]

JC Tretter elected new president of the NFLPA

Considering he has a labor degree from Cornell that's not a bad pick.

[SAUTO]

No the players are out of their league in these sorts of negotiations imo.

They need to do what the owners do, hire a professional to handle their affairs. There is a reason Roger makes 40m a year. Players vote in some dude and think they can get what they want. Never going to happen. If they didn’t want to play 17 games every star player should have been saying so all fucking year.

i thought they DID hire an outside professional...


what is de. smith?

[SAUTO]

Maybe so, but I think his lawyers make a valid point about the 10-year situation. Owners want to lock stuff down, knowing that the TV money is going to explode during the next 10 years. That's probably not a great deal for the players. I think the players should be pushing to knock this down to a 5-6 year deal.

i dont get this line of thinking...


it doesnt matter what the TV deals do, the player are going to get at least 48.8 percent of it.


how do people not understand this?

[duncan_idaho]

i dont get this line of thinking...





it doesnt matter what the TV deals do, the player are going to get at least 48.8 percent of it.





how do people not understand this?


That’s TV-only revenue. Doesn’t account for the gambling revenue, which is expected to infuse even more cash.

End of the day, I’ll always side with players first, owners second.

[Kiimo]

Never underestimate fans' ability to side with owners over "greedy" players because the players are easier to understand than a billionaire who rakes regular people over the coals. It took how many years to make fans understand that we shouldn't use our own taxes to buy a billionaire a stadium?

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Monday is gonna be crazy.



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NFL’s franchise tag deadline is 11:59.59 Monday am et.<br><br>Legal tampering starts one second later Monday.<br><br>Quite a week ahead.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1237369494319910919?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[FloridaMan88]

Never underestimate fans' ability to side with owners over "greedy" players because the players are easier to understand than a billionaire who rakes regular people over the coals. It took how many years to make fans understand that we shouldn't use our own taxes to buy a billionaire a stadium?

It’s called siding with reality.

If the players vote down the current proposed CBA, what is their viable plan to get a better deal?

Go on strike? See how well that worked the last time NFL players tried to strike in 1987 (replacement players and star players such as Lawrence Taylor crossing the picket line, etc.)

[Mecca]

It’s called siding with reality.

If the players vote down the current proposed CBA, what is their viable plan to get a better deal?

Go on strike? See how well that worked the last time NFL players tried to strike in 1987 (replacement players and star players such as Lawrence Taylor crossing the picket line, etc.)

Once again, if they would use the example of the MLB and realize they have power if they'd stick together, they'd get what they want.

[FloridaMan88]

Once again, if they would use the example of the MLB and realize they have power if they'd stick together, they'd get what they want.

But that will never happen.

NFL players have shorter careers, and lower pay for the “rank and file” players compared to their MLB counterparts.

If the NFLPA decides to play maximum hardball by rejecting the current CBA, going on strike, etc, they’ll likely face the reality of eventually having to accept a worse deal and a broken union with many of the “rank and file” players revolting agains the hardline stance of the union leadership.

[Mecca]

But that will never happen.

NFL players have shorter careers, and lower pay for the “rank and file” players compared to their MLB counterparts.

If the NFLPA decides to play maximum hardball by rejecting the current CBA, going on strike, etc, they’ll likely face the reality of eventually having to accept a worse deal and a broken union with many of the “rank and file” players revolting agains the hardline stance of the union leadership.

Why would that happen though?

The NFL makes huge money, the only players who got a worse deal striking were the NHL ones and that was because well their game doesn't make as much money.

[SAUTO]

That’s TV-only revenue. Doesn’t account for the gambling revenue, which is expected to infuse even more cash.

End of the day, I’ll always side with players first, owners second.

not that im aware of.


its at least 48.8% of all revenue in any year where they play a 17th game. 48 prior to the 17th game.


gross revenue doesnt just account for tv money...

[FloridaMan88]

Why would that happen though?

The NFL makes huge money, the only players who got a worse deal striking were the NHL ones and that was because well their game doesn't make as much money.

Because the only leverage the players have against the owners is the urgency by the owners to get a CBA done now so they can begin negotiating the new media rights agreements and maximize its potential value.

The owners believe that they can maximize the new media rights value now with the strong economy (although they may have already missed that opportunity with the recent stock market downturn), and consecutive seasons of rebounding/stronger TV ratings (the NFL believes that TV ratings could take a hit this upcoming season due to the presidential election, similar to 2016 and put them in a weaker negotiating position a year from now).

Without the urgency of the moment, the owners have no incentive to offer concessions or an improved CBA to the players and will likely be willing to play the long game knowing that the weak players union will not stay united and will eventually crumble.

[Kiimo]

https://advocacyforfairnessinsports.org/feature-stories/nfl/the-nfls-plan-to-divide-and-conquer-players-is-abundantly-clear-in-proposed-cba/

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Where did they hide the first round pick compensation the Pats get for the loss of Brady.

[LoneWolf]

Once again, if they would use the example of the MLB and realize they have power if they'd stick together, they'd get what they want.

No they wouldn't. If they go on strike, the owners can wait them out. The average professional football players' career is only 4 years. They can't afford to lose 25% of their career earnings.

At the end of the day, 48.8% of the revenue is a good deal. Higher minimum salaries, expanded rosters, etc...are all good for the players. If they turn down this deal, I promise you the deal they end up with will be worse.

I know this isn't the same thing and is a little apples to oranges, but I helped with a union contract negotiation in 2017. The deal we offered the workers in June was fair and increased their pay and benefits. They turned that offer down and were playing hardball on a couple of items like PTO and 401k match. Their existing contract ran out in September and we let them work without a contract until the end of October when we locked them out. The lockout took two weeks and then we came to an agreement. That agreement was much worse than the contract we offered them in June of that year. They got less in pay increases, their insurance premiums went up by 3% more than the previous offer, and we eliminated paid sick leave. When the rank and file cannot afford to live without pay for any amount of time, the leverage is on the eyes of the owners.

[RunKC]

This weekend is going to be fun. I have to wonder if Sammy is gone on Monday

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With the NFL mostly on hold until the CBA vote, I&#39;m expecting a waterfall of news Sunday-Monday unlike anything since the 2011 lockout ended.</p>&mdash; Gregg Rosenthal (@greggrosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/greggrosenthal/status/1237469053007978496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>