Melvin Gordon to Broncos

[pugsnotdrugs19]

https://twitter.com/nfl_dovkleiman/status/1241044684945924096?s=21

[staylor26]

Very weird. Lindsay and Freeman are a good cheap duo.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I don’t get this. But Denver sure is going for it...

[The Franchise]

Very weird. Lindsay and Freeman are a good cheap duo.

I’m going to laugh when Lindsay demands a trade.

[notorious]

Very weird. Lindsay and Freeman are a good cheap duo.

Elway is reaching.

Has been for a while.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I’m going to laugh when Lindsay demands a trade.

He should.

[Kman34]

Linky??

[PAChiefsGuy]

Elway is horrible. I hope he stays as the Broncos GM for a very long time.

[staylor26]

I don’t get this. But Denver sure is going for it...

And their OL still sucks outside of the G spots LMAO

[Monty]

Elway is horrible. I hope he stays as the Broncos GM for a very long time.

:thumb::toast:

[Mile High Mania]

I don't mind this... Lindsay isn't an every down back, but is very good in his role with another solid option. Freeman was nice, but had fumble issues.

I doubt Lindsay looks at this as him being replaced.

[RunKC]

Please tell me they overpaid for this guy LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Melvin Gordon has gone over 4 yards per carry one time in his career. He&#39;s gone past 1,000 yards rushing once in his career. He&#39;s played 16 games in one season in his career. <br><br>Hard pass from me y&#39;all.</p>&mdash; Joe Rowles (@JoRo_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoRo_NFL/status/1236304321144410112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I don't mind this... Lindsay isn't an every down back, but is very good in his role with another solid option. Freeman was nice, but had fumble issues.

I doubt Lindsay looks at this as him being replaced.

Why wouldn’t he? Gordon is a top 10-ish running back.

[ModSocks]

Please tell me he over paid. Pleeeeeease.

[ModSocks]

Why wouldn’t he? Gordon is a top 10-ish running back.

Oh fuck dude, c'mon. You're killin' me here.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Oh fuck dude, c'mon. You're killin' me here.

What? It’s true. He does a bit of everything. You don’t have to take him off the field. He’s been highly productive.

He’s definitely in that 8-12 range off the top of my head.

[UK_Chief]

And their OL still sucks outside of the G spots LMAO

I also suck outside the G spot

[PAChiefsGuy]

Oh **** dude, c'mon. You're killin' me here.

Who would you put above him?

[Mile High Mania]

Why wouldn’t he? Gordon is a top 10-ish running back.

I think Denver needed a legit pass catching RB threat and Gordon can be that guy. Let's not overhype Lindsay - he had two 100 yard rushing games last year. Great kid, love that he's on the team... but, he's not Terrell Davis. Only had rushing TDs in 6 games last year.

Denver needs two legit threats as most teams are throwing out there.

Continue to improve that OL, put in a QB that isn't a statue and this could be a very nice duo on the ground.

[The Franchise]

Who would you put above him?

Barkley
Kamara
Elliott
Bell
McCaffrey
Mixon
Chubb
Cook
Jones
Conner (when healthy)
Henry
Carson (when healthy)
Mostert
Ekeler

[RunKC]

What? It’s true. He does a bit of everything. You don’t have to take him off the field. He’s been highly productive.

He’s definitely in that 8-12 range off the top of my head.

No he’s not.

Saquon
Zeke
McCaffrey
Kamara
Henry
Jacobs
Chubb
Carson
Cook
Mostert

That’s off the top of my head. Shit dude Gurley had arthritis in his knee and was still better. His replacement (Ekeler) had 3X as many 4 YPC seasons as him and a twice as many TD’s as a receiver in 2019 than any season Gordon had.

Gordon isn’t even a top half of the league back. He might not even be top 20 at this point

[Deberg_1990]

Solid pickup.

Drew Locks time to shine now.

[Rain Man]

Please tell me they overpaid for this guy LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Melvin Gordon has gone over 4 yards per carry one time in his career. He&#39;s gone past 1,000 yards rushing once in his career. He&#39;s played 16 games in one season in his career. <br><br>Hard pass from me y&#39;all.</p>&mdash; Joe Rowles (@JoRo_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoRo_NFL/status/1236304321144410112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

There's almost no way they didn't overpay. If the guy didn't have a first-round background he'd be out of the league. I find it hilarious that Elway picked up this toad.

[Mile High Mania]

No he’s not.

Saquon
Zeke
McCaffrey
Kamara
Henry
Jacobs
Chubb
Carson
Cook
Mostert

That’s off the top of my head. Shit dude Gurley had arthritis in his knee and was still better. His replacement (Ekeler) had 3X as many 4 YPC seasons as him and a twice as many TD’s as a receiver in 2019 than any season Gordon had.

Gordon isn’t even a top half of the league back. He might not even be top 20 at this point

I'm surprised the XFL isn't his only option. I mean, what in the hell...

[Mile High Mania]

There's almost no way they didn't overpay. If the guy didn't have a first-round background he'd be out of the league. I find it hilarious that Elway picked up this toad.

ROFL

[pugsnotdrugs19]

No he’s not.

Saquon
Zeke
McCaffrey
Kamara
Henry
Jacobs
Chubb
Carson
Cook
Mostert

That’s off the top of my head. Shit dude Gurley had arthritis in his knee and was still better. His replacement (Ekeler) had 3X as many 4 YPC seasons as him and a twice as many TD’s as a receiver in 2019 than any season Gordon had.

Gordon isn’t even a top half of the league back. He might not even be top 20 at this point

At the end of this shit it really doesn’t matter where you or I rank him, he’s coming into Denver to start and stay on the field. He’s an upgrade overall. They probably paid him too much for the simple fact that he’s a RB. That’s all that really matters.

[Rain Man]

ROFL

Read 'em and weep, my friend.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GordMe00.htm

[Mile High Mania]

Read 'em and weep, my friend.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GordMe00.htm

Saw that... he's one part of a two part RB tandem, with just about any team. Let's see the price before we lose our shit.

[ModSocks]

What? It’s true. He does a bit of everything. You don’t have to take him off the field. He’s been highly productive.

He’s definitely in that 8-12 range off the top of my head.

Melvin Gordon has been over rated for a long, long time.

[ForeverIowan]

Elway knows he needs to surround his young quarterback with talent. I think its a good move for them. I expect they'll grab a WR with their first round pick as well.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Barkley
Kamara
Elliott
Bell
McCaffrey
Mixon
Chubb
Cook
Jones
Conner (when healthy)
Henry
Carson (when healthy)
Mostert
Ekeler

You're really reaching there with some of those.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Melvin Gordon has been over rated for a long, long time.

I’ll admit I didn’t take the time to think hard on it — he’s probably more in the 12-18 range. But still. He makes them better at the position. I just don’t know that it was a smart use of resources.

[rabblerouser]

ROFL
LMAO

AWESOME.

[Hoover]

I love it when team give $$ to big name free agents.

[Hammock Parties]

yes a running back will be the key to beating mahomes

good call dungver

[ChiefBlueCFC]

Melvin Gordon, while a good RB, acts like he is Jamaal Charles or something... I hope to god that the Broncos paid him handsomely.

[Dunerdr]

Elway trying to save his job

[Mile High Mania]

I’ll admit I didn’t take the time to think hard on it — he’s probably more in the 12-18 range. But still. He makes them better at the position. I just don’t know that it was a smart use of resources.

Again, all depends on the $... he's an upgrade over Freeman and gives them flexibility. Some are acting like Lindsay was a top 3 RB. Gordon isn't a savior by any means, but he has value and in the right system, could be incredibly valuable with what they're trying to do. I'll bet the contract is reasonable.

[Red Dawg]

Running backs don't matter. The league has made this clear. Elway is a dumb shit.

[ModSocks]

Elway knows he needs to surround his young quarterback with talent. I think its a good move for them. I expect they'll grab a WR with their first round pick as well.

Good move? Depends on the contract. Lets see if he fetches less than Gurley.

[Mile High Mania]

yes a running back will be the key to beating mahomes

good call dungver

Yes, Denver should just focus on those 2 games...

[Mile High Mania]

Good move? Depends on the contract. Lets see if he fetches less than Gurley.

I was going to ask what the range was for acceptable.

[saphojunkie]

What? It’s true. He does a bit of everything. You don’t have to take him off the field. He’s been highly productive.

He’s definitely in that 8-12 range off the top of my head.

You're right. His injuries do that for you.

[RunKC]

I can see why they did it though. Freeman has no ability as a pass catcher and Lindsey is simply not big/strong enough to be an every down back. He can’t pass block.

Before the ball was snapped, defenses had an idea if it was a pass or run based on that. Gordon is extremely average but he is capable of being on the field all 3 downs.

But man I’m glad they overpaid for that guy LMAO

[Mile High Mania]

I can see why they did it though. Freeman has no ability as a pass catcher and Lindsey is simply not big/strong enough to be an every down back. He can’t pass block.

Before the ball was snapped, defenses had an idea if it was a pass or run based on that. Gordon is extremely average but he is capable of being on the field all 3 downs.

But man I’m glad they overpaid for that guy LMAO

Has something been posted with details?

[saphojunkie]

Barkley
Kamara
Elliott
Bell
McCaffrey
Mixon
Chubb
Cook
Jones
Conner (when healthy)
Henry
Carson (when healthy)
Mostert
Ekeler

This is probably how I'd rank them. Kareem Hunt is on this list for his talent and durability. If he can't stay out of trouble, then he drops precipitously. If he does stay out of trouble, he's top 5 for me.

1. Zeke
2. McCaffrey
3. Barkley
4. Kamara
5. Cook
6. Henry
7. Mixon
8. Jones
9. Chubb
10. Jones
11. Hunt
12. Jacobs
13. Connor
14. Bell
15. Lindsay
16. Sanders (Phi)

[KC_Lee]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[scho63]

One man's trash is another man's treasure.....

[ForeverIowan]

Good move? Depends on the contract. Lets see if he fetches less than Gurley.

Cant send Lock out there to the wolves without some weapons and expect him to succeed. From a personnel standpoint I think it's a good move. Let's see the $ behind it.

[TEX]

Solid pickup.

Drew Locks time to shine now.

LMAO

Yes, b/c Drew Lock will never be any better than he is now, and neither will Denver. :rolleyes:

Dang, most all the shit you say is so dumb. Its like you're on a mission to have the most retarded "Hot Takes" on the board. Skip Bayless has NOTHING on you...

[WhawhaWhat]

You're really reaching there with some of those.

Yet you named none or provided your own list. Phillip Lindsay is already on the team and he's better than Gordon.

[The Franchise]

2 years and $16 million.

[ModSocks]

I was going to ask what the range was for acceptable.

As a fan, $4M per season would be the most i could stomach. And i'd want it on a short term contract. We're talking about a RB with two bad knees.

As GM, i wouldn't bother. He's going to give you replacement level production, so i'd prefer to pay replacement level prices.

Early reports in San Diego was that he struggled really hard to learn the playbook. For as big and physically gifted as he is, he doesn't run like it. He's not a good short yardage back. He's a guy that needs space and a full head of steam to take advantage of his physical gifts.

And if you watched him plat every Sunday you'd see that he's kinda aloof.

[ModSocks]

2 years and $16 million.

$13.5 gtd

Fuck that noise. At least the length is right.

[Miles]

2 years and $16 million.

No surprise that holdout didn’t work so well and even this is probably too much.

[tyecopeland]

Those lists would have Gordon a lot higher if he'd just signed a one year deal with the chiefs.

[ModSocks]

No surprise that holdout didn’t work so well.

Talk about betting on yourself and losing....IIRC, the Chargers were gonna pay him $11-$13M per year.

[Mile High Mania]

It’s a decent deal.

[KChiefs1]

I’ll take Lindsey off their hands.

[Mile High Mania]

Gordon and Harris essentially change teams for a lot less than they expected to get for 2020.

[ModSocks]

Those lists would have Gordon a lot higher if he'd just signed a one year deal with the chiefs.

He probably would, but not for the reason you're implying.

But because Reid is so damn good at knowing how to use his RB's. Gordon as an accessory in an offense that knows how to create lanes for a guy might be pretty dangerous.

Gordon as a featured back? Meh.

[Mile High Mania]

He probably would, but not for the reason you're implying.

But because Reid is so damn good at knowing how to use his RB's. Gordon as an accessory in an offense that knows how to create lanes for a guy might be pretty dangerous.

Gordon as a featured back? Meh.

I think most agree and he's not the featured back in Denver... hell, only a handful of teams have that anymore.

[Rain Man]

Yards per carry in 2019 among players with 500 or more rushing yards. Looking at the results, I'm a bit surprised that Elway didn't sign 36 year old Frank Gore.

1 Raheem Mostert SFO 5.64
2 Gus Edwards BAL 5.35
3 Devin Singletary BUF 5.13
4 Derrick Henry TEN 5.08
5 Matt Breida SFO 5.07
6 Mark Ingram BAL 5.04
7 Nick Chubb CLE 5.01
8 Christian McCaffrey CAR 4.83
9 Kenyan Drake 2TM 4.81
10 Josh Jacobs OAK 4.75
11 Alvin Kamara NOR 4.66
12 Saquon Barkley NYG 4.62
13 Aaron Jones GNB 4.59
14 Miles Sanders PHI 4.57
15 Dalvin Cook MIN 4.54
16 Phillip Lindsay DEN 4.51
17 Ezekiel Elliott DAL 4.51
18 Chris Carson SEA 4.42
19 Marlon Mack IND 4.42
20 Jordan Howard PHI 4.41
21 Carlos Hyde HOU 4.37
22 Latavius Murray NOR 4.36
23 Leonard Fournette JAX 4.35
24 Adrian Peterson WAS 4.26
25 Austin Ekeler LAC 4.22
26 Ronald Jones TAM 4.21
27 Joe Mixon CIN 4.09
28 Tevin Coleman SFO 3.97
29 Todd Gurley LAR 3.84
30 Melvin Gordon LAC 3.78
31 Sony Michel NWE 3.69
32 David Montgomery CHI 3.67
33 Frank Gore BUF 3.61
34 Devonta Freeman ATL 3.57
35 Le'Veon Bell NYJ 3.22

[Easy 6]

Please tell me they overpaid for this guy LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Melvin Gordon has gone over 4 yards per carry one time in his career. He&#39;s gone past 1,000 yards rushing once in his career. He&#39;s played 16 games in one season in his career. <br><br>Hard pass from me y&#39;all.</p>&mdash; Joe Rowles (@JoRo_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoRo_NFL/status/1236304321144410112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wow, I knew he’d been a disappointment... but not that bad

Ooover - raaated *clap clap clapclapclap*

[Mile High Mania]

Yards per carry in 2019 among players with 500 or more rushing yards. Looking at the results, I'm a bit surprised that Elway didn't sign 36 year old Frank Gore.

1 Raheem Mostert SFO 5.64
2 Gus Edwards BAL 5.35
3 Devin Singletary BUF 5.13
4 Derrick Henry TEN 5.08
5 Matt Breida SFO 5.07
6 Mark Ingram BAL 5.04
7 Nick Chubb CLE 5.01
8 Christian McCaffrey CAR 4.83
9 Kenyan Drake 2TM 4.81
10 Josh Jacobs OAK 4.75
11 Alvin Kamara NOR 4.66
12 Saquon Barkley NYG 4.62
13 Aaron Jones GNB 4.59
14 Miles Sanders PHI 4.57
15 Dalvin Cook MIN 4.54
16 Phillip Lindsay DEN 4.51
17 Ezekiel Elliott DAL 4.51
18 Chris Carson SEA 4.42
19 Marlon Mack IND 4.42
20 Jordan Howard PHI 4.41
21 Carlos Hyde HOU 4.37
22 Latavius Murray NOR 4.36
23 Leonard Fournette JAX 4.35
24 Adrian Peterson WAS 4.26
25 Austin Ekeler LAC 4.22
26 Ronald Jones TAM 4.21
27 Joe Mixon CIN 4.09
28 Tevin Coleman SFO 3.97
29 Todd Gurley LAR 3.84
30 Melvin Gordon LAC 3.78
31 Sony Michel NWE 3.69
32 David Montgomery CHI 3.67
33 Frank Gore BUF 3.61
34 Devonta Freeman ATL 3.57
35 Le'Veon Bell NYJ 3.22

Ton of RBs on that list... none from KC though.

[Rain Man]

Yards per carry among RBs who have 500+ attempts from 2015-2019 (the length of Gordon's career).

1 Mark Ingram 4.89
2 Derrick Henry 4.77
3 Christian McCaffrey 4.69
4 Ezekiel Elliott 4.62
5 Bilal Powell 4.59
6 Chris Carson 4.51
7 Jay Ajayi 4.45
8 C.J. Anderson 4.42
9 Marlon Mack 4.41
10 Isaiah Crowell 4.37
11 Jordan Howard 4.34
12 LeSean McCoy 4.34
13 Tevin Coleman 4.34
14 Todd Gurley 4.27
15 Dion Lewis 4.26
16 Joe Mixon 4.23
17 Devonta Freeman 4.2
18 Lamar Miller 4.18
19 Le'Veon Bell 4.15
20 Adrian Peterson 4.1
21 Carlos Hyde 4.08
22 Latavius Murray 4.06
23 David Johnson 4.01
24 Melvin Gordon 4
25 Doug Martin 3.98
26 DeMarco Murray 3.95
27 Leonard Fournette 3.95
28 Matt Forte 3.88
29 Frank Gore 3.86
30 LeGarrette Blount 3.85
31 Chris Ivory 3.85
32 Jonathan Stewart 3.78
33 Alfred Blue 3.73
34 Peyton Barber 3.61

[Rain Man]

Ton of RBs on that list... none from KC though.

We have Mahomes. We no longer travel by bus. We travel by air. In our jet.

[DomCasual]

I think Melvin Gordon can be productive with Lindsay. I don't think anyone is expecting him to bring us a Lombardi Trophy.

But I have to say that I love coming here after stuff like this. The headline could be, "Broncos sign Bo Jackson in his prime!" You guys could pretty much cut-and-paste whatever you said for the last pick/signing.

[Rain Man]

I think Melvin Gordon can be productive with Lindsay. I don't think anyone is expecting him to bring us a Lombardi Trophy.

But I have to say that I love coming here after stuff like this. The headline could be, "Broncos sign Bo Jackson in his prime!" You guys could pretty much cut-and-paste whatever you said for the last pick/signing.

Bo Jackson is one of the most overrated running backs in NFL history. You can have him.

[Chiefspants]

No he’s not.

Saquon
Zeke
McCaffrey
Kamara
Henry
Jacobs
Chubb
Carson
Cook
Mostert

That’s off the top of my head. Shit dude Gurley had arthritis in his knee and was still better. His replacement (Ekeler) had 3X as many 4 YPC seasons as him and a twice as many TD’s as a receiver in 2019 than any season Gordon had.

Gordon isn’t even a top half of the league back. He might not even be top 20 at this point

If Melvin Gordon put up Damien Williams numbers in the Super Bowl he’d be considered an iconic running back in this era.

[Perineum Ripper]

Ton of RBs on that list... none from KC though.

Ah shit, you’re right. That will probably keep us from winning the Super Bowl.

[Mile High Mania]

I have always thought they should target a trio like Powell, Crowell and Ajayi... I mean this is the most telling of all stats and a true leading indicator for success.

Ok, I'm done with the Gordon commentary. I like the signing - believe he's going to add a nice dimension to what they're doing.

Yards per carry among RBs who have 500+ attempts from 2015-2019 (the length of Gordon's career).

1 Mark Ingram 4.89
2 Derrick Henry 4.77
3 Christian McCaffrey 4.69
4 Ezekiel Elliott 4.62
5 Bilal Powell 4.59
6 Chris Carson 4.51
7 Jay Ajayi 4.45
8 C.J. Anderson 4.42
9 Marlon Mack 4.41
10 Isaiah Crowell 4.37
11 Jordan Howard 4.34
12 LeSean McCoy 4.34
13 Tevin Coleman 4.34
14 Todd Gurley 4.27
15 Dion Lewis 4.26
16 Joe Mixon 4.23
17 Devonta Freeman 4.2
18 Lamar Miller 4.18
19 Le'Veon Bell 4.15
20 Adrian Peterson 4.1
21 Carlos Hyde 4.08
22 Latavius Murray 4.06
23 David Johnson 4.01
24 Melvin Gordon 4
25 Doug Martin 3.98
26 DeMarco Murray 3.95
27 Leonard Fournette 3.95
28 Matt Forte 3.88
29 Frank Gore 3.86
30 LeGarrette Blount 3.85
31 Chris Ivory 3.85
32 Jonathan Stewart 3.78
33 Alfred Blue 3.73
34 Peyton Barber 3.61

[RunKC]

LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Broncos tryna run ball play defense next year huh..... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TakesNotes?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TakesNotes</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLFreeAgency?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLFreeAgency</a></p>&mdash; Tyrann Mathieu (@Mathieu_Era) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mathieu_Era/status/1241060144697479169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Buehler445]

2 years and $16 million.

ROFL. OUCH.

Fuck Donk Forever.

[Buehler445]

2 years and $16 million.

LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Broncos tryna run ball play defense next year huh..... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TakesNotes?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TakesNotes</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLFreeAgency?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLFreeAgency</a></p>&mdash; Tyrann Mathieu (@Mathieu_Era) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mathieu_Era/status/1241060144697479169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

For some reason I can’t quit laughing about this.

[DomCasual]

Bo Jackson is one of the most overrated running backs in NFL history. You can have him.

And there you go! :)

[ModSocks]

I think Melvin Gordon can be productive with Lindsay. I don't think anyone is expecting him to bring us a Lombardi Trophy.

But I have to say that I love coming here after stuff like this. The headline could be, "Broncos sign Bo Jackson in his prime!" You guys could pretty much cut-and-paste whatever you said for the last pick/signing.

Hey! It's free agency! Time for optimism! I get it. I totally do.

We're just giving you objective analysis. $13.5M is too much for a guy that will get out performed by guys already on your roster.

You "fixed" a problem that didn't exist. You effectively threw cap money away on a RB (with two bad knees) that you didn't need.

[Mile High Mania]

Hey! It's free agency! Time for optimism! I get it. I totally do.

We're just giving you objective analysis. $13.5M is too much for a guy that will get out performed by guys already on your roster.

You "fixed" a problem that didn't exist. You effectively through cap money away on a RB (with two bad knees) that you didn't need.

Honest question... last FA signing by Denver you agreed with was...? (you're on the clock, go)

[ModSocks]

Honest question... last FA signing by Denver you agreed with was...? (you're on the clock, go)

A.J Bouye

[The Franchise]

Honest question... last FA signing by Denver you agreed with was...? (you're on the clock, go)

Glasgow.

[ModSocks]

I've been anti-Melvin Gordon since his 2nd season in the league. I had seen enough then.

I was anti-Melvin Gordon before it was cool to be anti-Melvin Gordon. Ha.

[notorious]

ROFL

[TRR]

Honest question... last FA signing by Denver you agreed with was...? (you're on the clock, go)

Pretty hard to agree with anything Elway has done since Manning hung up his cleats. It’s been one failure, free agency and draft, after another, after another.

[RealSNR]

Honest question... last FA signing by Denver you agreed with was...? (you're on the clock, go)

Funny. Years ago I asked Knowmo to find a single post of his in which he disagreed with a Broncos player move as it happened. The best he could come up with was a draft day trade down in which he believed Horse Face should have gotten a better return than he did.

[lcarus]

I'd take Damien The Omen Williams over Gordon. With how he played in the playoffs and the Super Bowl, he's a great back.

[DomCasual]

Hey! It's free agency! Time for optimism! I get it. I totally do.

We're just giving you objective analysis. $13.5M is too much for a guy that will get out performed by guys already on your roster.

You "fixed" a problem that didn't exist. You effectively threw cap money away on a RB (with two bad knees) that you didn't need.

Honest question. Who are the "guys" on our roster who are better than him? I'll give you Lindsay, sort of. They're so different, I almost don't think of them as playing the same position. And I'm pretty good with Lindsay getting 12-15 touches a game.

The best thing they can do for Drew Lock is to let him grow. Of the games he started, the Chiefs snow game is exactly what he doesn't need. (Also, get him a WR and Tackle in the draft, but I digress.) Games like that are likely to bring out his bad habits (the two picks he had - the one called back - were brutal).

I get it, though. Although, I would argue that most here aren't any more objective about such things than Broncos fans are. That's fine. It's like you said, we're all fans. It gives me a good chuckle, though.

[RunKC]

Honest question. Who are the "guys" on our roster who are better than him? I'll give you Lindsay, sort of. They're so different, I almost don't think of them as playing the same position. And I'm pretty good with Lindsay getting 12-15 touches a game.

The best thing they can do for Drew Lock is to let him grow. Of the games he started, the Chiefs snow game is exactly what he doesn't need. (Also, get him a WR and Tackle in the draft, but I digress.) Games like that are likely to bring out his bad habits (the two picks he had - the one called back - were brutal).

I get it, though. Although, I would argue that most here aren't any more objective about such things than Broncos fans are. That's fine. It's like you said, we're all fans. It gives me a good chuckle, though.

I get it. You guys have extra money right now bc Lock is on a rookie contract. But that much for a RB? Really dude?

He has one 1,000 yard season. One. And his replacement was significantly better than him.

Why would any team spend significant money on a RB when they are so easy to find? Damien Williams, Austin Ekeler. Even Phillip Linday. None of those guys were drafted and they’re good.

[Mile High Mania]

Glasgow.

Yeah, I had no idea who he was previously... i do like that signing a lot.

[DomCasual]

And there you go! :)

I get it. You guys have extra money right now bc Lock is on a rookie contract. But that much for a RB? Really dude?

He has one 1,000 yard season. One. And his replacement was significantly better than him.

Why would any team spend significant money on a RB when they are so easy to find? Damien Williams, Austin Ekeler. Even Phillip Linday. None of those guys were drafted and they’re good.

I don't think the contract is terrible, actually. Like you said, we have the space.

And while you can hit on RBs, and I would be truly miffed if we used a high draft pick on one (ahem, Knowshon Moreno), I don't think you can build a team on the assumption that you're always going to find these diamonds - especially with a young QB.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Still a better deal than Hitchens.

[RealSNR]

I don't think the contract is terrible, actually. Like you said, we have the space.

And while you can hit on RBs, and I would be truly miffed if we used a high draft pick on one (ahem, Knowshon Moreno), I don't think you can build a team on the assumption that you're always going to find these diamonds - especially with a young QB.

You have to take those kind of risks some of the time if you want to build a championship contender, though. And RB is the easiest position in which to take those risks.

The Chiefs certainly did that last year. Charvarius Ward coming into 2019 had one year of NFL experience and came from a small school in which he started fewer two seasons' worth of games. They also planned to start a true rookie at FS, started a guy at C who was inconsistent and injury-prone in his young NFL career up to that point, and rolled with a fearsome backfield of Damien Williams, Carlos Hyde, and a 6th round rookie as their primary RBs. They replaced one of them with broke dick Shady McCoy, and that was the guy with the most experience and demonstrated NFL production.

Now, you can argue that some of those moves didn't work out the best way. Most of them were washes, where they were "just good enough" to make work. The Chiefs also were counting on players like Darron Lee and Andrew Wylie to be better than they actually were. But that's okay. They mixed up some different combinations, tried different guys, and made some midseason moves. It all worked out.

[TEX]

Ton of RBs on that list... none from KC though.


Oh NOES!...That might keep us from winning the Super Bowl. :)

[Mile High Mania]

Oh NOES!...That might keep us from winning the Super Bowl. :)

And you know that’s not what I was inferring.

[Shields68]

Hey! It's free agency! Time for optimism! I get it. I totally do.

We're just giving you objective analysis. $13.5M is too much for a guy that will get out performed by guys already on your roster.

You "fixed" a problem that didn't exist. You effectively threw cap money away on a RB (with two bad knees) that you didn't need.

To me the deal seems more about marketing. They need some name to sign to get some optimism going with the fans. It is a short deal where they had the money and won't hurt them too far down the road. He probably recoups the 16 million in jersey sales.

[RealSNR]

And you know that’s not what I was inferring.

We're not paying Damien Williams a 2 year $16 million contract. That's the difference.

[TEX]

And you know that’s not what I was inferring.

I was...
Give me Damien Williams for $2.5M and a Super Bowl please.

[TribalElder]

help the donkeys fight for a wildcard spot

[Mile High Mania]

We're not paying Damien Williams a 2 year $16 million contract. That's the difference.

Yeah, it's different offensive styles as well.

Overall, the bigger plays and additions for Denver in the last week are Bouye, Glasgow and Casey. Gordon is a nice addition and should add a good dynamic to the offense, but the other 3 guys are bigger additions to overall improving the team.

[RealSNR]

Yeah, it's different offensive styles as well.

Actually, not really. Pat Shurmur is a cheap Andy Reid knock-off, but he's still a direct descendent of that tree and has yet to really vary or innovate much from the terminology or experiment with new and different systems.

[Chiefspants]

Good to see some feistiness from Bronco fans. Oppo fans have been quiet since our 49er “regulars” mysterious disappeared on February 2nd.

With the Chargers and Raiders no longer having home fields or fans who can field a stadium, we really need Bronco fans to step up here - it was getting too tame.

I do admire the Broncos for their efforts to copy the runner up team this year. John Elway does have a lot of experience on being an inspiring runner up. Their team is shaping up to be a less defensively talented Chiefs team of the 90’s. I’m sure the Broncos having the less talented QB will work out for them this time, though!

[Mile High Mania]

Good to see some feistiness from Bronco fans. Oppo fans have been quiet since our 49er “regulars” mysterious disappeared on February 2nd.

With the Chargers and Raiders no longer having home fields or fans who can field a stadium, we really need Bronco fans to step up here - it was getting too tame.

I do admire the Broncos for their efforts to copy the runner up team this year. John Elway does have a lot of experience on being an inspiring runner up. Their team is shaping up to be a less defensively talented Chiefs team of the 90’s. I’m sure the Broncos having the less talented QB will work out for them this time, though!

My plan was to 'hover' around until FA started, figured you guys earned a month or so of enjoyment after the SB win. Now things are moving around and there's stuff to talk about.

[Chiefspants]

My plan was to 'hover' around until FA started, figured you guys earned a month or so of enjoyment after the SB win. Now things are moving around and there's stuff to talk about.

Nice. I’m all for it. I’d vastly prefer to hear healthy **** talk from you than Covid hysteria right now.

[TEX]

help the donkeys fight for a wildcard spot

Yep, and with almost half of the conference teams making the playoffs in the upcoming season, lots of trash teams will be fighting for that last spot with them. :shrug:

[Mile High Mania]

Yep, and with almost half of the conference teams making the playoffs in the upcoming season, lots of trash teams will be fighting for that last spot with them. :shrug:

It's Carl Peterson's wet dream.

[CrazyPhuD]

Elway is reaching.

Has been for a while.

Yes but in most prior cases he's been reaching around.

[TRR]

Yeah, it's different offensive styles as well.

Overall, the bigger plays and additions for Denver in the last week are Bouye, Glasgow and Casey. Gordon is a nice addition and should add a good dynamic to the offense, but the other 3 guys are bigger additions to overall improving the team.

Additions is a strong word. I would say Bouye and Harris Jr. are a wash. Bouye was BAD last year, but could prove to have more longevity due to his age. Glasgow is a wash in my eye as well. He might be better in Denver’s scheme but I thought McGovern could have been a player, but was handled all wrong.

I’ll give you Casey as long as he plays and stays motivated.

[Chiefspants]

Additions is a strong word. I would say Bouye and Harris Jr. are a wash. Bouye was BAD last year, but could prove to have more longevity due to his age. Glasgow is a wash in my eye as well. He might be better in Denver’s scheme but I thought McGovern could have been a player, but was handled all wrong.

I’ll give you Casey as long as he plays and stays motivated.

Casey is a Ty Law addition.

Great player, but returns are going to diminish quickly.

[staylor26]

Casey is a Ty Law addition.

Great player, but returns are going to diminish quickly.

Which is why it only took a 7th. People are overrating the hell of that move. The Broncos lost Shelby Harris who’s younger and was a little more productive last year.

[Mile High Mania]

Which is why it only took a 7th. People are overrating the hell of that move. The Broncos lost Shelby Harris who’s younger and was a little more productive last year.

Harris hasn't signed anywhere yet.

[staylor26]

Harris hasn't signed anywhere yet.

I’m aware, but yea poor choice of words. All indications are he won’t be re-signed from what I’ve read though, correct?

Just to be clear, I think Casey is the better player for 2020, but he’s more expensive, older, and on the downside while Harris is younger, clearly in the buyers market, and still ascending.

[CarlosCarson27]

Pointless to have 8 pages about a lateral move. No importance.
Had he gone to Tampa or Rams, Raiders. It would then be interesting

[srvy]

The Donks were fine at RB. What this says to me as they had money but lost out in bidding to get who they really wanted. This will fire up their idiot fan base to drum up ticket sales but not make one iota in win losses.

[Mile High Mania]

Pointless to have 8 pages about a lateral move. No importance.
Had he gone to Tampa or Rams, Raiders. It would then be interesting

Sounds like the Bills made him a bigger money deal.

[Mile High Mania]

The Donks were fine at RB. What this says to me as they had money but lost out in bidding to get who they really wanted. This will fire up their idiot fan base to drum up ticket sales but not make one iota in win losses.

Not really, Freeman needed to be replaced.

[TribalElder]

If COVID-19 forces NFL teams to play in empty stadiums, Melvin Gordon says it won’t feel much different for him.

Gordon, who played his entire career for the Chargers before signing with the Broncos this offseason, noted that the Chargers played in front of plenty of empty seats.


“We didn’t have fans anyway,” Gordon said in an interview with Marcus Cromartie. “We didn’t have many Chargers fans at the game. . . . So I’m not missing much.”


ROFL

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Turd