What Does Matt Cassel Mean To You?

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Hey guys, long time no see.

Raiders fans are turning on Carr.

So I was wondering how long does it take before anger at a former QB disappears?

Thus, the question.

[Hammock Parties]

I will go to my grave wishing I could piss on Cassel's.

And Carr isn't near as bad.

You will never know the level of hate this fanbase has for that jackass.

[BryanBusby]

When you finally get a good QB you stop giving a shit about the bad ones. So, maybe some day? Not everyone can draft Patrick Mahomes though.

[Eleazar]

Peter principle

[KermitUnderCenter]

Matt Cassell was a great playah, get ovah it!!!

[SiB]

Carr sux ballz. NEXT!

[hometeam]

He graded out perfectly

[displacedinMN]

I still hate the unnamed kicker more than cassle.

Still SB champs

[Chiefs4TheWin]

Was a bad era.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

A reminder of times when the Chiefs were terribly mediocre.

[Hammock Parties]

I feel the same way about Cassel as I feel about the stupid fuck who tore the wing off my DinoRiders pterodactyl and threw it over the fence into the woods when I was in Primary School in Scotland.

I'll never get that wing back, and I'll never get back the part of my Chiefs fan soul that Cassel stole.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Way underappreciated.

[Skyy God]

I’ve never wished more harm to a Chiefs player than Mark Casshole.

[Strongside]

He is nazi.

[Ubeja Vontell]

Who?

[KC Hawks]

Incredible player. Scott Pioli was a genius.

[Stryker]

Absolutely NOTHING!!:cuss:

[BryanBusby]

The funny thing is he has won the West more than Carr

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

The funny thing is he has won the West more than Carr

Cassel 2020 for Gruden.

[Deberg_1990]

He would have made a solid tight end.

[Baby Lee]

If you're tooling around town in a Hellcat, how mad are you still about the Dodge Aspen?

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[Rain Man]

Patrick Mahomes is the quarterback of the Chiefs. Before him, it was Len Dawson. The history books make no mention of any other person.

[Baby Lee]

On a more serious note, my anger about the Cassel era ended about the time he signed his $60M contract. I figured 'well, we've hitched our wagon, . . . might as well just enjoy the hijinks.' I had no expectations, no aspirations, no hopes, no anger, nothing in terms of emotional investment, for the duration of his tenure.

[FAX]

Carr is light years better than Cassel.

In fact, Carr is definitely a top 5 quarterback who just needs more time with Gruden and a few more downfield weapons to realize his full potential.

Remember, Carr was being discussed as an MVP candidate just a few years ago. Aaron Rogers wasn't even in the convo that year.

Nope. Carr is great. Keep Carr. Never let Carr go.

Instead, show him you value him by increasing his salary and he'll blossom like a dahlia in response.

FAX

[SiB]

Carr is light years better than Cassel.

In fact, Carr is definitely a top 5 quarterback who just needs more time with Gruden and a few more downfield weapons to realize his full potential.

Remember, Carr was being discussed as an MVP candidate just a few years ago. Aaron Rogers wasn't even in the convo that year.

Nope. Carr is great. Keep Carr. Never let Carr go.

Instead, show him you value him by increasing his salary and he'll blossom like a dahlia in response.

FAX

You sick bastard, haha.

[Baby Lee]

Carr is light years better than Cassel.

In fact, Carr is definitely a top 5 quarterback who just needs more time with Gruden and a few more downfield weapons to realize his full potential.

Remember, Carr was being discussed as an MVP candidate just a few years ago. Aaron Rogers wasn't even in the convo that year.

Nope. Carr is great. Keep Carr. Never let Carr go.

Instead, show him you value him by increasing his salary and he'll blossom like a dahlia in response.

FAX

Brutally efficient, . . . even taking care to stress the importance of additional weapons, instead of shoring up his O-line, because everyone knows that Carr's problems are weapons-based, not confidence-based.

ROFL ROFL

[Bugeater]

You want an idea how bad this place hated Matt Cassel?


We actually had a thread that posed the question: "Which would you rather see, Matt Cassel die in a car accident, or be our QB for another 4 years?"


Tried to do a search for it, but couldn't find it. I'm guessing it was nuked out of existence, but trust me, it happened.

[Hammock Parties]

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[carcosa]

He means less than nothing.

[Shaid]

We have Mahomes, I could give two shits about Cassel at this point.

[KChiefs1]

Who???

Oh yeah, this guy.
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[big nasty kcnut]

He's hot garbage and that aids tree isn't going to run into itself. He should run into it.

[SuperBowl4]

ask Eric Winston

[scho63]

I still hate the unnamed kicker more than cassle.

Still SB champs

This and this......:thumb:

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[Rasputin]

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[Rasputin]

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[dj56dt58]

I think Javon Belcher speaks for all of us

[morphius]

Our situation is a bit different, but he was just one more forgettable QB in a long line of forgettable QB's.

[PHOG]

Patriot Way

[old_geezer]

He was the Covid-19 virus that destroyed so many Chiefs seasons. :cuss:

[penchief]

Futility.

[notorious]

I don’t hate Cassel. He sucked, and he knew it.

I hate the GM that forced him down our throat over and over. That mother ****er can get get ****ed by a battleship.

[KCUnited]

4 more years of aids if he sees his shadow

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

The rat in my Mcsalad? It was a salad from McDonald's to begin with

[FlaChief58]

Yes Casshole sucked sweaty balls, but if someone throws that kind of cash at you, you take that shit. The blame here will always be on that dick head pissholy for giving that turd 63 million bucks and sticking with his sorry ass for so long.

That said, had we not been forced to suffer through the dark ages and been a .500 team, it's unlikely we'd be where we are now. Sometimes you need to hit rock bottom before you can get to the top.

[Bugeater]

FRANCHISE KILLING SHIT MACHINE















(don't recall who dubbed him that, but it was fitting)

[alpha_omega]

Sure, Mark Castle sucked but at least he didn’t/doesn’t wear eyeliner.

[seclark]

man, i couldn't watch those games...i'd work on something out in the shed and listen to them on the radio. this place was fuckin depressing all the time.
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[vonBobo]

I don’t hate Cassel. He sucked, and he knew it.

I hate the GM that forced him down our throat over and over. That mother ****er can get get ****ed by a battleship.

This.

The NFL isn't as much of a team sport as we want to believe. Good teams have a superstar QB and bad teams dont. Unfortunately impatient fans want to blame a QB for the failings of the league that makes the QB so important, and the GM that kept the QB around too long.

[stevieray]

....what does Jamarcus Russell mean to you?

[bobhill]

Not a Casshole fan, bad trade by peeoli

[Chief_For_Life58]

Cassel was absolutely horrible. Carr is 10x better

[Thiggy#4]

Cassel was absolutely horrible. Carr is 10x better

Carr Sux Ballz,hope the Raiders keep the Turd forever......Cassells was epic fail but at least he won some games...Only person to lose more games in the same time span is his brother David.....go figure.

Thankfully we have Mahommes,first good QB we've had since Thigpen.

[burt]

Carr Sux Ballz,hope the Raiders keep the Turd forever......Cassells was epic fail but at least he won some games...Only person to lose more games in the same time span is his brother David.....go figure.

Thankfully we have Mahomes,first good QB we've had since Montana

FYP, n00b.....

[redfan]

The Patriot spit-shine wore off of that turd rather quickly, but it's ancient history now.

[AdolfOliverBush]

Cassel was awful, but even he didn't inspire the white-hot hatred that Elvis Grbac did.

[Thiggy#4]

....what does Jamarcus Russell mean to you?

Purple Drank? lol

[RealSNR]

I don’t hate Cassel. He sucked, and he knew it.

I hate the GM that forced him down our throat over and over. That mother ****er can get get ****ed by a battleship.

Matt "I graded out perfectly" Cassel? THAT Matt Cassel? Knew that he sucked?

No, he did not. He was clueless. He got fluffed by Pioli whenever he was having a tough time, and that boosted his confidence right back up.

[Donger]

Scorn. Contempt. Slight regard.

[ChiefBlueCFC]

I mean there were a lot of things wrong with those chiefs teams offensively, hardly Cassel's fault overall but he wasn't good at all. More angst towards Pioli and Haley IMO but I also didn't live in KC during that period so my feelings toward them are probably a little different than a lot here

[Otter]

I'll give that talentless, howdy doody looking, mofo one prop: he sucked the NFL for all he could.</br></br>I wonder who his connections were.

[ChiefBlueCFC]

I'll give that talentless, howdy doody looking, mofo one prop: he sucked the NFL for all he could.</br></br>I wonder who his connections were.

The dude went from high school to the NFL between starts... I mean he had to have had some kind of connections

[Kman34]

Actually he means nothing to me... because.. Mahomes..

[SuperBowl4]

The dude went from high school to the NFL between starts... I mean he had to have had some kind of connectionsIt's who you know, not what you know

[gblowfish]

I will go to my grave wishing I could piss on Cassel's.

And Carr isn't near as bad.

You will never know the level of hate this fanbase has for that jackass.

Casshole was bad, but for me, Bill Kenney is the QB I hate the most. He was here nine years, Casshole only four. Kenny ruined the 1980's for me as a Chiefs fan. Ruined it.

[Otter]

The dude went from high school to the NFL between starts... I mean he had to have had some kind of connections Yeah, there's no way a guy that bad at his position gets the opportunities he received based on merit.</br></br>He was terrible.

[Otter]

Casshole was bad, but for me, Bill Kenney is the QB I hate the most. He was here nine years, Casshole only four. Kenny ruined the 1980's for me as a Chiefs fan. Ruined it. We lived long enough to see Patrick!</br></br>We get to scratch that off our Chiefs/ChiefsPlanet bucket list!

[gblowfish]

We lived long enough to see Patrick!</br></br>We get to scratch that off our Chiefs/ChiefsPlanet bucket list!

When I got to meet PMII at Twisted Chief's dinner party, one of the things I remember saying to him was THANK YOU for making Chiefs football fun again. I know he has a good feeling for what came before, and knew he had 50 years of angst to overcome. It's an amazing accomplishment for a 2nd year starting QB.

[Zebedee DuBois]

Just prior to the Cassel era, the Chiefs were pretty deep in a hole, floundering, thrashing in sadness.

They decided to change up coaching and QB and it was like they dug the hole even deeper.

[gblowfish]

Just prior to the Cassel era, the Chiefs were pretty deep in a hole, floundering, thrashing in sadness.

They decided to change up coaching and QB and it was like they dug the hole even deeper.

Every time you thought the Chiefs had hit rock bottom, Pioli picked up a shovel.

[Bugeater]

It's who you know, not what you knowIt's not who you know, it's who you blow

[DJ's left nut]

Matt Cassel is the dry handjobs you endured in high school while trying to see your way through to the promise land.

Oh sure, a fortunate few get to fuck the prom queen right out the chute, but most have to deal with a few months of chafing before they finally seize the brass ring.

You'll never look back fondly on the dry hand jobs. Ever. But in time you'll stop thinking about them altogether and accept them as the awkward necessary evil that most had to suffer through.

[Chiefspants]

Clay, do you still have Matt Cassel's "deal with it" gif?

The batch of new CPer's we've had in the Reid era don't know how much they missed out on by missing your GIF'D up threads. Gallows humor was all that sustained me through the Pioli era.

[Hammock Parties]

Casshole was bad, but for me, Bill Kenney is the QB I hate the most. He was here nine years, Casshole only four. Kenny ruined the 1980's for me as a Chiefs fan. Ruined it.

Over 4,000 yards passing in 1983.

Elite.

[Hammock Parties]

Clay, do you still have Matt Cassel's "deal with it" gif?

The batch of new CPer's we've had in the Reid era don't know how much they missed out on by missing your GIF'D up threads. Gallows humor was all that sustained me through the Pioli era.

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[jd1020]

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[Chiefspants]

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Rep. GIF’D up was the stuff of legends, dude.

[Mecca]

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That is what it's like.......a dude has to throw it like a hail mary 35 yards out....

[Hammock Parties]

Rep. GIF’D up was the stuff of legends, dude.

I filled the hole in my soul with the sweet taste of ennui.

I embraced the suck and used it to better myself.

[Eureka]

Carr is not that bad. Raider fans won't be paying to fly a banner saying Carr sucks around the stadium during game day.

[Chiefspants]

Carr is not that bad. Raider fans won't be paying to fly a banner saying Carr sucks around the stadium during game day.

Carr definitely isn’t Cassel, but he is absolutely every “good, not elite QB” we had from 1990-2017. He is far better than the likes of Bono and Cassel, of course - but definitely in the Grbac/Smith range.

Just give him a great offensive line, a strong run game, elite weapons at receiver, a Top 5 defense, and a Super Bowl is a real possibility!

[Dunerdr]

When we got our asshole blown out by the falcons in week one during the cassle era i was forever done with him and ready to blow it up. Even as a young optimistic late teen/ early 20s man i was never on the casshole train. I did at one point allow myself to believe that dwayne bowe was the fucking man though.

[Chiefspants]

When we got our asshole blown out by the falcons in week one during the cassle era i was forever done with him and ready to blow it up. Even as a young optimistic late teen/ early 20s man i was never on the casshole train. I did at one point allow myself to believe that dwayne bowe was the ****ing man though.

That was the day the veil hanging over the Pioli era should have fallen for everyone. It did for most and was instrumental for SaveOurChiefs - but it’s amazing how many TrueFans thought Pioli and Cassel needed a couple more years and a few more weapons! to compete.

[Eureka]

Carr definitely isn’t Cassel, but he is absolutely every “good, not elite QB” we had from 1990-2017. He is far better than the likes of Bono and Cassel, of course - but definitely in the Grbac/Smith range.

Just give him a great offensive line, a strong run game, elite weapons at receiver, a Top 5 defense, and a Super Bowl is a real possibility!

Most QB's could make it with what you suggested. ROFL

[Chiefspants]

Most QB's could make it with what you suggested. ROFL

No!! Carr really is special. He has such a good personality and is the exact kind of person you want leading your franchise. It’s Gruden’s job to give him the weapons he needs and assemble the right 52 around him. Carr just needs a couple of more years in Gruden’s system and a deep threat weapon like Antonio Brown, an offensive line, a defense, and a few breaks along the way and he’s golden. Besides, if the Raiders take a chance and draft someone, what happens if they burn out and waste the talent around them? With Carr, we know exactly who they are going to get.

Chiefs fans better look out if Gruden decides to stick with Carr for 3-5 more years.

[Eureka]

No!! Carr really is special. He has such a good personality and is the exact kind of person you want leading your franchise. It’s Gruden’s job to give him the weapons he needs and assemble the right 52 around him. Carr just needs a couple of more years in Gruden’s system and a deep threat weapon like Antonio Brown, an offensive line, a defense, and a few breaks along the way and he’s golden. Besides, if the Raiders take a chance and draft someone, what happens if they burn out and waste the talent around them? With Carr, we know exactly who they are going to get.

Chiefs fans better look out if Gruden decides to stick with Carr for 3-5 more years.

He has played over the years with some of the worst defenses in NFL history.

[Mephistopheles Janx]

Trying to be as objective as possible here...

Cassel was the equivalent of having a huge blackhead on the tip of our nose that we couldn't squeeze out for 4 years.

Cassel was that time you felt your belly rumble and knew you had to shit so you make a beeline to the nearest toilet only to have shit run down your leg as you start pulling your pants down.

Cassel was like the time you were playing with a baby and they puked on your face and in your mouth.

Cassel was like plowing the ugly fat chick in highschool because, sex is sex. Only to find out she gave you the clap.

Cassel was like being forced into a room, the door being locked, and having to listen to Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On" on loop for 4 years.

Cassel was the equivalent of putting your foot in dog shit every single time you took a step... no matter where you tried going.

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That is what Cassel means to me.

[ChiefBlueCFC]

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That is what it's like.......a dude has to throw it like a hail mary 35 yards out....

LMAO LMAO WHOLE LEE SHIT! :)

[FAX]

I like the Celine song that she performed for the Deadpool movie.

FAX

[FAX]

He has played over the years with some of the worst defenses in NFL history.

Not to mention special teams, Mr. Eureka.

You can't hold that against him.

FAX

[Wisconsin_Chief]

I would not change a thing about Cassel's time here. His ungodly, outrageously inept attempt to pose as a starting QB exposed Scott Pioli as the complete and utter fraud he always was. Pioli pinned his entire career to Cassel and it sunk him like a tidal wave engulfing a row boat, which is exactly what he deserved. If Cassel had been even remotely competent, who knows how long Pioli could have continued to pillage this organization.

So in a way, I thank him for his role. Without him and Pioli completely tanking this franchise to the point of fan base revolt, we'd probably still be wallowing in mediocrity.

Enjoy your money, Matt. You earned every penny in a completely roundabout way.

Also, go to hell.

That about sums it up.

[KChiefs1]

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That is what it's like.......a dude has to throw it like a hail mary 35 yards out....


Classic moment in Chiefs history.

[Hammock Parties]

i believe it's time for cassel GIFs

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lolololol

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[Hammock Parties]

snort

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[Hammock Parties]

LMAO

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[New World Order]

More!

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[crayzkirk]

I can't blame him for something he was incapable of doing. The people that signed him are the ones to blame. I was always disappointed that the Chiefs spent the better part of four decades simply giving up picks and money for players other teams didn't want.

He was a system QB and the Chiefs system at that time was not good for him.

[BigChiefFan]

I thought we had a chance with him, but the more I saw from him, the more it was apparent he wasn’t a franchise QB. I’m glad this era is done in Chiefs history. He sucks. Lol.

[Peter Gibbons]

Matt Cassel was a painful but acceptable loss in the war to rid us of Pioli.

[Easy 6]

He means nothing to me, that era is like a terrible childhood trauma that’s been buried deep in my subconscience

What was his name again?

[mdchiefsfan]

Way underappreciated.

LMAO I completely forgot your “stance” on Cassel. Way to stick to it. That was some hilarious stuff.

[Easy 6]

Those gifs are legit pissing me OFF

Just imagine how his teammates felt

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

This place never disappoints.

[Thiggy#4]

Not to mention special teams, Mr. Eureka.

You can't hold that against him.

FAX

Special teams struggled the minute they let Taiwan Jones walk....Kid was a BEAST!!!

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Special teams struggled the minute they let Taiwan Jones walk....Kid was a BEAST!!!

The Beast sux balls.

[Thiggy#4]

Carr is not that bad. Raider fans won't be paying to fly a banner saying Carr sucks around the stadium during game day.

Carr is that bad...They boo'd him out of the stadium the final game ever in Oakland...

[Thiggy#4]

The Beast sux balls.

You obviously know shit...The fact you refer to him as THE Beast tells me you know he is the best ST in football.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Carr is that bad...They boo'd him out of the stadium the final game ever in Oakland...

Unfortunately, we have a segment of fans that don't know football.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

You obviously know shit...The fact you refer to him as THE Beast tells me you know he is the best ST in football.

You are a Thigpen fan. Enough said. ROFL

[Pablo]

You are a Thigpen fan. Enough said. ROFL

You named yourself after an eyeliner wearing shit-bag pussy. And you're a Raiders fan so your credit score is definitely sub 600. Enough said.

[Chiefspants]

In all honesty, I don’t mind Carr - but in my uninformed take (watching Raiders games when they’re on, etc). He’s looked like a different QB since his broken leg. Way more eager to go to the check down over the deep corner routes I used to see him throw. It’s like he went from a young Trent Green to an Alex Smith. I’d be interested to see him on a team with a stout D like the Bears, but I don’t know if he’ll ever be a serious threat in the division. I think it’s far more likely the Raiders will be perpetually stuck playing for the 7th seed with the occasional 11-5 season when the scheduling Gods smile upon them.

[Thiggy#4]

Carr is a pussy.Watch him play,dude is terrified of contact.

[Pablo]

Carr is a pussy.Watch him play,dude is terrified of contact.

He's a total bitch. Like every Raiders fan that grew up 1,000 miles away from Oakland but claimed them because they were "tough" or whatever dipshit reason they have.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

You named yourself after an eyeliner wearing shit-bag pussy. And you're a Raiders fan so your credit score is definitely sub 600. Enough said.

Named myself for the bad pun. LOL

[Skyy God]

My favorite Matt Cassel memory is when he got hurt in the 2012 season. I was in KC and watching the game at a dive bar across from the Majestic. End of an error.

My favorite Matt Cassel story is where he lost 2 drunken foot races at USC and welched on the bet.

[eDave]

Yesterday.

[gblowfish]

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Man...all those gifs. Casshole sucked like a Hoover!

[Thiggy#4]

Named myself for the bad pun. LOL

More like the biggest pussy to ever play QB in the NFL.

[crayzkirk]

I have to say thanks to Hammock Parties for the Cassel gifs; it's the first good laugh that I've had in a week. Every day seems like a damn Monday!

[Spott]

Carr is not that bad. Raider fans won't be paying to fly a banner saying Carr sucks around the stadium during game day.

They would if guy that flew the airplane accepted EBT.

[BryanBusby]

They would if guy that flew the airplane accepted EBT.

lmao

[Bugeater]

Didn't see the botched end zone celebration gif, please tell me that's out there somewhere still.

[Thiggy#4]

Didn't see the botched end zone celebration gif, please tell me that's out there somewhere still.

It's here.Someone posted it.

[Chris Meck]

failure.

That's what he represents.

[mililo4cpa]

Hey guys, long time no see.

Raiders fans are turning on Carr.

So I was wondering how long does it take before anger at a former QB disappears?

Thus, the question.

the pain subsides when you draft the GOAT QB.....

[mililo4cpa]

Classic moment in Chiefs history.

WASP and this.....

[Bump]

I don't believe I've ever despised a player more than Matt Cassel. Mostly because Pioli had the coach by the balls and wouldn't allow Cassel to be benched (I suspected anyways).

[Mephistopheles Janx]

You named yourself after an eyeliner wearing shit-bag pussy. And you're a Raiders fan so your credit score is definitely sub 600. Enough said.

I would, and did, root for the Chiefs more with Thigpen than I ever with with Castle. Also... Thiggy got Tony's stamp of approval.

https://www.espn.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/1388/gonzalez-a-disgrace-if-thigpen-isn-t-qb-in-2009

[Bump]

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That is what it's like.......a dude has to throw it like a hail mary 35 yards out....

That's a flick of the wrist for Mahomes lol

[Tribal Warfare]

That's a flick of the wrist for Mahomes lol

Behind his back with his eyes closed

[Chiefspants]

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That is what it's like.......a dude has to throw it like a hail mary 35 yards out....

The CLANANANING sound from the goalposts is one of the best parts of that fail Mary.

This series is one of the worst I have ever seen. Wow. My mind blocked just how terrible this era was. https://youtu.be/zcly1mNUFD0

[jdubya]

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That is what it's like.......a dude has to throw it like a hail mary 35 yards out....

For you Raider fans, that`s called a Hail Mary.

[Hammock Parties]

lololol

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[tredadda]

To think how bad of a situation we could be in if he was even average. He was so bad that we were able to get both Pioli and Haley fired at just the right time. This allowed us to get Big Red and eventually PMII. Had he even been slightly better than back up caliber, our who history could like so much different.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Vermiel's third stringer was Huard & look what Reid has had. A tragedy of sadness in between

[Chiefspants]

To think how bad of a situation we could be in if he was even average. He was so bad that we were able to get both Pioli and Haley fired at just the right time. This allowed us to get Big Red and eventually PMII. Had he even been slightly better than back up caliber, our who history could like so much different.

If Pioli drafted DeShaun Watson, he could have been here 10 years with zero rings to show for it. 9-7 forever.

[Tribal Warfare]

To think how bad of a situation we could be in if he was even average. He was so bad that we were able to get both Pioli and Haley fired at just the right time. This allowed us to get Big Red and eventually PMII. Had he even been slightly better than back up caliber, our who history could like so much different.

SOC dude

[gblowfish]

For you Raider fans, that`s called a Hail Mary.

Losing to Cleveland at home. Awful.

[ChiefsLV]

Who's better, Mark Casshole or Mark Vlasic?

[mdchiefsfan]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CandidPositiveAndalusianhorse-size_restricted.gif

That is what it's like.......a dude has to throw it like a hail mary 35 yards out....

Jesus. If I ever saw that much wind up from Mahomes, I’d expect a mushroom cloud to form upon release of the ball.... and it was a 35 yard throw LMAO

[jdubya]

What kind of sick bastard starts a thread like this?

[gblowfish]

Who's better, Mark Casshole or Mark Vlasic?

One's named after an orifice, the other named after a cucumber.

[notorious]

Some of you assholes are acting like you hated the trade.

Do I need to bump the “Carl Peterson Part Deux” thread to remind everyone?

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=203355&highlight=Carl+Peterson+part+deux

[Thiggy#4]

Hey guys, long time no see.

Raiders fans are turning on Carr.


For good reason..........Carr is the biggest pussy to ever play QB in the NFL...Raiders are fk'd as lone as he is starting.

[rabblerouser]

Who?

[old_geezer]

What does Matt Cassel mean to me? My reason to drink whenever the Chiefs played.

[gblowfish]

Some of you younger guys feel about Casshole like I felt about Bill Kenney in the 1980s. He ruined....RUINED....ten years of my Chiefs life. At least Casshole got us a home playoff game. And yes, he was awful after he got gun shy and happy feet.

[Hammock Parties]

My backup QB in my current Madden franchise wears #7.

Constant triggering when he fires his blunderbuss in preseason games.

I bet he doesn't last one contract after Mahomie retires.

[crispystl]

Some of you younger guys feel about Casshole like I felt about Bill Kenney in the 1980s. He ruined....RUINED....ten years of my Chiefs life. At least Casshole got us a home playoff game. And yes, he was awful after he got gun shy and happy feet.


IIRC his pocket presence and footwork were light years better his first year than subsequent years. I think Weiss had him coached up to his full potential and he just steadily regressed here.


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[Rain Man]

I've determined that the anger goes away when you draft the greatest quarterback in the game's history. So it may be a while for Oakland.

In fairness, though, there's no comparison between Carr and Cassel. Carr is an also-ran, but Cassel was a complete and utter disaster (who also cost a higher draft pick than Carr).

[gblowfish]

IIRC his pocket presence and footwork were light years better his first year than subsequent years. I think Weiss had him coached up to his full potential and he just steadily regressed here.


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Casshole got happy feet and turned into checkdown charlie after he got beat up a bunch from our awful offensive line. Eric Winston had a man crush on him though...

[Chiefspants]

IIRC his pocket presence and footwork were light years better his first year than subsequent years. I think Weiss had him coached up to his full potential and he just steadily regressed here.


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Weis knew exactly who he was and put together a game plan around his weaknesses. That plan however blew to smithereens with any hint of an opposing pass rush.

After Weis, you just had coaches who had no idea how to plan around his limitations.

[Mecca]

The CLANANANING sound from the goalposts is one of the best parts of that fail Mary.

This series is one of the worst I have ever seen. Wow. My mind blocked just how terrible this era was. https://youtu.be/zcly1mNUFD0

It was even capped with the hilarious "shut the fuck up" to the crowd booing.

[DJ's left nut]

Stumbled onto this picture:

http://ianonsports.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/matt-cassel.jpg

This seriously reminds me of my 2 year old after he uses the toilet. The flex and the goofy-ass grin and everything.

Seriously - look at this picture and imagine him yelling "I GO PEEPEE ON THE POTTY!!!" It works.

Fucking hell Matt Cassel was a goober.

[Mecca]

Some of you assholes are acting like you hated the trade.

Do I need to bump the “Carl Peterson Part Deux” thread to remind everyone?

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=203355&highlight=Carl+Peterson+part+deux

It was nice to be on the right side of that one.

[dlphg9]

Fun fact! Mark Castles has played in more playoff games than either Carr brother and he also has a better win % than either one of the Carr Bros. Vroom vroom!

Our shittiest QB in the last 30+ years has a better winning percentage than the Raiders best QB since Rich fucking Gannon and probably the 3rd or 4th best QB in your history!

How does that make you feel?

[crispystl]

Weis knew exactly who he was and put together a game plan around his weaknesses. That plan however blew to smithereens with any hint of an opposing pass rush.

After Weis, you just had coaches who had no idea how to plan around his limitations.


Yeah that’s my take as well.


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[CasselGotPeedOn]

Fun fact! Mark Castles has played in more playoff games than either Carr brother and he also has a better win % than either one of the Carr Bros. Vroom vroom!

Our shittiest QB in the last 30+ years has a better winning percentage than the Raiders best QB since Rich ****ing Gannon and probably the 3rd or 4th best QB in your history!

How does that make you feel?

https://i.gifer.com/8QwE.gif

[lcarus]

Matt Cassel was one of the most important players in franchise history. That era was exactly what this franchise needed to shitcan everyone and start anew instead of trudging along with retread QBs and dipshit coaches, just praying for 8-8 to keep the fans in the stands. Cassel throwing 25 yard hail marys, Pioli bitching about candy wrappers, Jovan Belcher, interim head coach Romeo Crennel beating the unbeaten Packers to win the job and then failing miserably at it. It all led to where we are now.

[Dunerdr]

Whats Mark Castle mean to me? * takes a drag off a cigarette

I was just a kid fresh out of high school when pioli torpedo'd the franchise with that sack of shit. I, like many had so much hope, the patriot way was here. It hadnt set franchises back for a decade yet at that point. I convinced myself he just needed a line, weapons, and a better coordinator until a week one ass raping by the falcons. Thats when i knew things were bad bad, he was the face of failure, he made me root for Brady fucking Quinn for petes sake.

[rico]

When I hear the name “Cassel,” I just get the feeling of being repetitively insulted... Like, that staff, for years tried convincing us that Matt Cassel (shudder) was an excusable QB and it was a constant insult. Like, how on Earth did they expect people to actually believe that?! Constant insults.

[DJ's left nut]

When I hear the name “Cassel,” I just get the feeling of being repetitively insulted... Like, that staff, for years tried convincing us that Matt Cassel (shudder) was an excusable QB and it was a constant insult. Like, how on Earth did they expect people to actually believe that?! Constant insults.

Oh someone clearly wasn't here for the first 2 years of the Cassel experience.

Why did they expect people to believe that? Because on this very board full of fairly well informed Chiefs fans, about half of 'em did.

"HE JUST NEEDS MORE TIME!!!!"

[Chiefspants]

Oh someone clearly wasn't here for the first 2 years of the Cassel experience.

Why did they expect people to believe that? Because on this very board full of fairly well informed Chiefs fans, about half of 'em did.

"HE JUST NEEDS MORE TIME!!!!"

I like to blame being a high schooler on my homerism at that time. I think I turned after the Tebow loss and seeing how much better Kyle Orton, a mediocre NFL QB, was than Cassel.

Easily some of my worst takes on the board, along with my Andy/Veach - Reek takes after the Star story last year.

[crispystl]

Whats Mark Castle mean to me? * takes a drag off a cigarette

I was just a kid fresh out of high school when pioli torpedo'd the franchise with that sack of shit. I, like many had so much hope, the patriot way was here. It hadnt set franchises back for a decade yet at that point. I convinced myself he just needed a line, weapons, and a better coordinator until a week one ass raping by the falcons. Thats when i knew things were bad bad, he was the face of failure, he made me root for Brady ****ing Quinn for petes sake.

You couldn't recognize the lack of arm talent via eye test?

[kcxiv]

a bad memory and i have moved on.

[KurtCobain]

Matt Cassel ruined my marriage and introduced me to meth.

[Gravedigger]

Carr will be a great journeyman, but if a QB doesn't get you to a playoff win in the first five years, they need a change in scenery. The Raiders picked the wrong guy and need to move forward. You know Gruden wants to do it, but hes likely waiting for a Patrick Mahomes to come around again to do it.

[vonBobo]

It's ignorant to have such rage at one person, coming from the fans that can't control themselves.
An organization over spent for him, couldn't get the right system or players around him, refused to bench him, and over paid for him.
And what did Matt ever do to deserve such hate? He persued his dreams, made a career for himself, and was incorrectly over valued at no fault of his own.
Jamarcus Russel anyone?? Where is the perspective?

[Rain Man]

It's ignorant to have such rage at one person, coming from the fans that can't control themselves.
An organization over spent for him, couldn't get the right system or players around him, refused to bench him, and over paid for him.
And what did Matt ever do to deserve such hate? He persued his dreams, made a career for himself, and was incorrectly over valued at no fault of his own.
Jamarcus Russel anyone?? Where is the perspective?

Yeah, I try very hard to separate the on-field stuff from the off-field stuff. If I ever met Matt Cassel in person, we'd have a great conversation and I'd probably ask if he could get me Jamaal Charles' autograph.

This dichotomy works for me because I can like Matt Cassel the person and despise Matt Cassel the quarterback.

[cabletech94]

What a dark dark place we were. Glad we are not there anymore.

[Hammock Parties]

It's ignorant to have such rage at one person, coming from the fans that can't control themselves.
An organization over spent for him, couldn't get the right system or players around him, refused to bench him, and over paid for him.
And what did Matt ever do to deserve such hate? He persued his dreams, made a career for himself, and was incorrectly over valued at no fault of his own.
Jamarcus Russel anyone?? Where is the perspective?

It's because he was an arrogant douche about it.

"i graded out perfectly"

"shut the fuck up"

fuck that guy

[CasselGotPeedOn]

Someone remind me of the "I graded out perfectly" quote.

[Mecca]

I will never forget the first time I ever met my brother in law, before he was my brother in law. We were sitting there and the Chiefs game is on and Cassel takes the field and he goes "here we go young Elway right here" and I literally belly laughed and said "WHAT!?!!?"

To this day we still don't get along.

[Dunerdr]

You couldn't recognize the lack of arm talent via eye test?

In my defense i was 17/18 full homer, and spent as much time txting whores as actually watching the game.

[Rain Man]

I will never forget the first time I ever met my brother in law, before he was my brother in law. We were sitting there and the Chiefs game is on and Cassel takes the field and he goes "here we go young Elway right here" and I literally belly laughed and said "WHAT!?!!?"

To this day we still don't get along.


Matt Cassel career passer rating = 78.5
John Elway career passer rating = 79.9

Your brother in law was pretty accurate.

(Wow, I seldom get a post where I can nail both Cassel and Elway at the same time.)

[SuperBowl4]

Bernard Pollard really screwed the chiefs in retrospect when he took out tom brady.

[Chiefspants]

Matt Cassel career passer rating = 78.5
John Elway career passer rating = 79.9

Your brother in law was pretty accurate.

(Wow, I seldom get a post where I can nail both Cassel and Elway at the same time.)

LMAO

[Red Dawg]

His name should be banned on this siye.

[DJ's left nut]

Someone remind me of the "I graded out perfectly" quote.

He was also the 'hidden touchdowns' guy, IIRC.

[CoMoChief]

Bernard Pollard really screwed the chiefs in retrospect when he took out tom brady.

That he did....and I'll always hate him for that.

He brought the Chiefs Matt Casshole/Peeholee

[DJ's left nut]

That he did....and I'll always hate him for that.

He brought the Chiefs Matt Casshole/Peeholee

God bless the broken road, gentlemen.

If any particular butterfly had flapped its wings, everything is different. Without Cassel, maybe Orton is the guy and Pioli stays around for 1 more year. Or maybe it's Sanchez and the grace period of a young QB gets him another. And if that happens, there's no Reid. And if there's no Reid there's no Patrick. There's no Hill or Kelce. There's probably not even a Mitchell Schwartz.

It all HAD to happen the way it happened.

Worth it.

[crispystl]

In my defense i was 17/18 full homer, and spent as much time txting whores as actually watching the game.


I wasn’t hating on you, I was just curious.


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[crispystl]

He was also the 'hidden touchdowns' guy, IIRC.


Wait....was that his OWN quote ? No way!


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[Buehler445]

God bless the broken road, gentlemen.

If any particular butterfly had flapped its wings, everything is different. Without Cassel, maybe Orton is the guy and Pioli stays around for 1 more year. Or maybe it's Sanchez and the grace period of a young QB gets him another. And if that happens, there's no Reid. And if there's no Reid there's no Patrick. There's no Hill or Kelce. There's probably not even a Mitchell Schwartz.

It all HAD to happen the way it happened.

Worth it.

Agreed

Nonetheless, God Fuck Squirmin Herman Motherfucking Sack of CuBy Edwards and Scott Franchise Killer Pioli.

Cassel to me is the personification of my broken fan days. Squirmin Herman Motherfucking Sack of Cunt Edwards broke my fandom. It was never the same. It was obvious from the start that even if Pioli was successful he wasn’t going to be as good at what Cheatriot did as Cheatriot so I pretty much mailed it in as a fan. Couldn’t jumpstart my give a shitter, coil is out. No spark.

Even after Reid came, the extent of what I could do was just appreciate that it wasn’t painful anymore. I mean...Alex Smith. Then Mahomes threw that bomb to Robinson on the run in the preseason and it was on.

Cassel is merely the mental shortcut for that god awful time in my fandom.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

God bless the broken road, gentlemen.

If any particular butterfly had flapped its wings, everything is different. Without Cassel, maybe Orton is the guy and Pioli stays around for 1 more year. Or maybe it's Sanchez and the grace period of a young QB gets him another. And if that happens, there's no Reid. And if there's no Reid there's no Patrick. There's no Hill or Kelce. There's probably not even a Mitchell Schwartz.

It all HAD to happen the way it happened.

Worth it.

1,000% this. I hated Cassel so much at the time but looking back he was everything we needed him to be. If he even displayed a Kyle Orton level of competence he may have managed to squeak out 1-2 more years for himself and Pioli, which would have cost us our shot at Andy Reid and everything he has brought with him.

Also a huge amount of gratitude is owed to the KC media for exposing Pioli and his insanity. If not for them Pioli likely gets at least one more year than he did.

Everything happened as it was meant to. Honestly the whole situation looks like destiny when you look at it with hindsight. What inspired Clark to fly out and talk Andy into coming to KC instead of Arizona? Clark had been very hands off until that point.

Just a work of art that was truly meant to be. It’s just so fantastic.

[Chiefspants]

I actually think Clark has been very hands on since taking over - especially compared to the example set by his Dad. His Dad really seemed to just abandon his team (and let his friend lead it, right? Steadman?) to me that always read like a reality where Clark gave Carl 2 more years and Pioli a decade. Clark fired a longtime GM (despite Carl giving his best sell that he was in a rebuild) and replaced him by someone many thought was the best candidate in the league. 4 years later, Clark then fired an executive of the decade only few years after the press of KC landing a national figure like that (and despite the tragedy he experienced with the team). Clark also had no qualms about handling Dorsey in a similar fashion (and taking some real heat for it).

Clark submitting those employee feedback forms independent of Pioli (shoutout to Babb) really speaks to his management style. I think some owners would have been content “weathering the storm.”

He gets 10000% credit for believing in Andy and getting his guy.

[Beef Supreme]

Mark Castle is the reason i joined this board. I had always just been a lurker until his complete lack of pocket awareness and propensity to go fetal at the first sign of pressure forced me to sign up for CP and yell into the ether.

[DJ's left nut]

Agreed

Nonetheless, God Fuck Squirmin Herman Motherfucking Sack of CuBy Edwards and Scott Franchise Killer Pioli.

Cassel to me is the personification of my broken fan days. Squirmin Herman Motherfucking Sack of Cunt Edwards broke my fandom. It was never the same. It was obvious from the start that even if Pioli was successful he wasn’t going to be as good at what Cheatriot did as Cheatriot so I pretty much mailed it in as a fan. Couldn’t jumpstart my give a shitter, coil is out. No spark.

Even after Reid came, the extent of what I could do was just appreciate that it wasn’t painful anymore. I mean...Alex Smith. Then Mahomes threw that bomb to Robinson on the run in the preseason and it was on.

Cassel is merely the mental shortcut for that god awful time in my fandom.

Going into the Mahomes draft, things were rough.

We'd just lost a playoff game where our opponent failed to score a TD and we had a lead early with the fastest man in the game streaking wide-open down the field, only to see our QB chicken out.

It was getting awfully difficult to convince myself that we could win a championship with the formula we'd been using. Even with a steady, dependable, firmly above average QB, I just couldn't convince myself that we were going to win a title.

Mahomes, even before we knew he'd be this (because seriously - MVP and SB MVP with 2 years left on his rookie deal was on very few people's lists of possibilities) changed everything.

It was hope. It was a sign that the organization saw things the same way I did.

[DJ's left nut]

1,000% this. I hated Cassel so much at the time but looking back he was everything we needed him to be. If he even displayed a Kyle Orton level of competence he may have managed to squeak out 1-2 more years for himself and Pioli, which would have cost us our shot at Andy Reid and everything he has brought with him.

Also a huge amount of gratitude is owed to the KC media for exposing Pioli and his insanity. If not for them Pioli likely gets at least one more year than he did.

Everything happened as it was meant to. Honestly the whole situation looks like destiny when you look at it with hindsight. What inspired Clark to fly out and talk Andy into coming to KC instead of Arizona? Clark had been very hands off until that point.

Just a work of art that was truly meant to be. It’s just so fantastic.

Excellent point.

Mind you, a #1 overall pick pretty much means the end of whoever was responsible for 'earning' it, but Kent Babb's reporting brought so much nastiness to light that it turned the fanbase against the entire organization. And frankly, that level of hostility had to be felt and may have been part of what led to the complete collapse.

"Arrowhead Anxiety" was a turning point and to be honest, it's probably a level of pure sports reporting that was never seen in KC before or since.

[KChiefs1]

https://youtu.be/k85WeksXN3c

[Mephistopheles Janx]

Matt Cassel is the topper of the loser's trophy in my fantasy football league.

https://i.imgur.com/ey3t9X3.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lmE3pNj.jpg

/notice how he is running parallel to the yard marker

[Fish]

Matt Cassel is the topper of the loser's trophy in my fantasy football league.

https://i.imgur.com/ey3t9X3.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lmE3pNj.jpg

/notice how he is running parallel to the yard marker

LMAO... fucking hideous. I love it.

[Tribal Warfare]

Cassel and Pioli were the catalyst of SOC and how WE changed the franchise how it is now.

Ultimately I hate what he represented though before the revolution

[Buehler445]

Going into the Mahomes draft, things were rough.

We'd just lost a playoff game where our opponent failed to score a TD and we had a lead early with the fastest man in the game streaking wide-open down the field, only to see our QB chicken out.

It was getting awfully difficult to convince myself that we could win a championship with the formula we'd been using. Even with a steady, dependable, firmly above average QB, I just couldn't convince myself that we were going to win a title.

Mahomes, even before we knew he'd be this (because seriously - MVP and SB MVP with 2 years left on his rookie deal was on very few people's lists of possibilities) changed everything.

It was hope. It was a sign that the organization saw things the same way I did.

Yeah, we weren't winning shit with Alex and we all knew it. My point above was that I appreciated it because the football was watchable. It wasn't the joke it became.

[SuperBowl4]

Question should be: Why do you still wear and own a Matt Cassel #7 CHIEFS jersey? Thus, the question.

[ROYC75]

https://youtu.be/smtoHtk8ByU

[ROYC75]

Some of you assholes are acting like you hated the trade.

Do I need to bump the “Carl Peterson Part Deux” thread to remind everyone?

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=203355&highlight=Carl+Peterson+part+deux

These things always makes us go back and see what kind of head scratchers we say.

FTR, there wasn't too many on CP that wasn't onboarding with Pioli at first. Or for that matter with Cassel either, most of of us know he was a system QB with "NO" college experience and a 1 year starter due to TB injury that BB & Weis polished as a golden turd.

We were all so starved for a good team again we sold our souls to the devil.......Peeehooooleeeeee.

[ChiefsFanatic]

I will never forget the first time I ever met my brother in law, before he was my brother in law. We were sitting there and the Chiefs game is on and Cassel takes the field and he goes "here we go young Elway right here" and I literally belly laughed and said "WHAT!?!!?"

To this day we still don't get along.Perhaps when he said young Elway, he was referring to Jessica or Juliana Elway. In that case, I would say it was a pretty accurate comparison, except Jessica and Juliana had stronger arms.

I knew that Casshole was going to be a pathetic POS in the preseason, when he fumbled the football, and instead of jumping on it, he pranced on his feet, jumping away from the pile like a sitcom housewife jumps when she sees a mouse.

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[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Matt Cassel is the topper of the loser's trophy in my fantasy football league.

https://i.imgur.com/ey3t9X3.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lmE3pNj.jpg

/notice how he is running parallel to the yard marker

That is amazing. Brilliant stuff. :clap:

[Jerm]

The Hail Mary off the crossbar from like the 35 yard line against the Browns is still one of the greatest WTF plays ever lol….

[ChiefAshhole1056]

Tyler Thigpen deserved the job.

[tredadda]

The Hail Mary off the crossbar from like the 35 yard line against the Browns is still one of the greatest WTF plays ever lol….

He did aim for and hit a pylon once. I will always remember how awful he was outside of garbage time stats. I will also always remember Pioli saying he graded out perfectly and how much Haley hated playing him. All of this because Pollard took out Brady in the first game of the season the year prior.

[Rain Man]

The world began in 2017.

[Reroka]

A time I wish I could forget being a chiefs fan.

[Rasputin]

Someone remind me of the "I graded out perfectly" quote.

I still crack up seeing your avatar LMAO

that was one I struggled from laughing so hard just to complete it. Tod Haley in the background yelling at him.

[rico]

A time I wish I could forget being a chiefs fan.

Meh, getting through that has made the Mahomes experience even better!

[Otter]

Football What Does Matt Cassel Mean To You?

Don't let the door hit ya where God split ya, you howdy doodie lookin' overpaid, clumsy, POS. I've seen high school QBs play better.

How long does it take? You stop watching if ur smart. No need to pick the scab.

[scho63]

Matt Cassel was the beginning of the end of 35 years of shitty QB's, loses in the playoff and the dawn of new era of Chiefs football.

It led to Andy Reid, Alex Smith, Brett Veach, winning football, first playoff win in 20+ years and finally........Patrick Mahomes III, our franchise QB 1st round pick.

He was the pain and sacrifice we had to endure.

[Flying High D]

At halftime PMII was heard saying, “Matt Cassell who? Here hold my beer.”

[ChiefsFan123456]

Don't let the door hit ya where God split ya, you howdy doodie lookin' overpaid, clumsy, POS. I've seen high school QBs play better.

How long does it take? You stop watching if ur smart. No need to pick the scab.

Cassell is better than Blackledge though

[Titty Meat]

Cassell is better than Blackledge though

I've never seen Blackledge play basketball but I agree Sam Cassell is better. Dude was an underrated pg

[Rainbarrel]

A Cracker Jacks box is not a candy wrapper. It was yours Peeholee

[htismaqe]

A picture is worth 1000 words. An animated picture is worth 10x more...

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn1.sbnation.com%2Fimported_assets%2F1162288%2F3032499_o.gif&f=1&nofb=1

[RetiredSeniorChief]

Some of you younger guys feel about Casshole like I felt about Bill Kenney in the 1980s. He ruined....RUINED....ten years of my Chiefs life. At least Casshole got us a home playoff game. And yes, he was awful after he got gun shy and happy feet.

For me it was Elvis Grbac. I still spit whenever I hear the name "Elvis".

[RetiredSeniorChief]

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[tredadda]

A picture is worth 1000 words. An animated picture is worth 10x more...

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn1.sbnation.com%2Fimported_assets%2F1162288%2F3032499_o.gif&f=1&nofb=1

Ahhhh, the bad old days.

[Zap Rowsdower]

This my unpopular opinion: I actually like Matt Cassel. While he was here he seemed like a good guy and did a lot out in the community. At his best he was average (2010) and the rest of the time he was well below that. You would have to have the 2000 Baltimore Ravens defense to win a Super Bowl with him at quarterback so he wasn't a long term answer. I would probably buy him a beer for the game he played against St. Louis in 2010 after he got his appendix taken out. The only players I don't care for are the guys who don't give it their all and also seem to despise the community.

[BigBeauford]

He played like he was afraid of getting hit on most snaps. I've never seen anything like it.

[BWillie]

I kind of admire Cassell. He got paid a ton of money for tricking NFL teams. He was drafted solely because he was on the USC machine and NFL teams convinced themselves hey the back up might be good too. Then he sat behind Brady for years, easy gig. Then when Brady got hurt I think NE went 10-6 on one of the best put together teams ever. I think the year before that was the undefeated NE team so going to Brady to Cassell was worth like 5 or 6 games. NFL teams again convinced themselves that the NE Brady back up had to be good too and the Chiefs gave him one of the worst contracts in sports history. He stole money. Good for him.

[tredadda]

This my unpopular opinion: I actually like Matt Cassel. While he was here he seemed like a good guy and did a lot out in the community. At his best he was average (2010) and the rest of the time he was well below that. You would have to have the 2000 Baltimore Ravens defense to win a Super Bowl with him at quarterback so he wasn't a long term answer. I would probably buy him a beer for the game he played against St. Louis in 2010 after he got his appendix taken out. The only players I don't care for are the guys who don't give it their all and also seem to despise the community.

He was a good guy, no doubts. I think very few question that. He was just an atrocious QB and never should have been a starter.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

So proud of this thread

[crayzkirk]

Casshole just means the same as every other QB the Chiefs traded or drafted after Dawson and before Mahomes. It just meant more years of football purgatory. I never felt that Blackledge really got a chance and Grbac was actually okay until the Steelers broke his collar bone. Don't be hating on Kenney; he was being platooned with Fuller and played pretty well for being the last player taken in the draft. The Chiefs of the middle 70s thru 80s were like the Lions; ownership didn't care as long as they were making money.

[tredadda]

Casshole just means the same as every other QB the Chiefs traded or drafted after Dawson and before Mahomes. It just meant more years of football purgatory. I never felt that Blackledge really got a chance and Grbac was actually okay until the Steelers broke his collar bone. Don't be hating on Kenney; he was being platooned with Fuller and played pretty well for being the last player taken in the draft. The Chiefs of the middle 70s thru 80s were like the Lions; ownership didn't care as long as they were making money.

Casell will always be the worst primarily because he was never starter quality and everyone on earth besides Pioli knew he was garbage and he was paid like a high end QB.

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Casell will always be the worst primarily because he was never starter quality and everyone on earth besides Pioli knew he was garbage and he was paid like a high end QB.

I remember nothing would get him off the field and give one of the backups a try. You know Pioli probably demanded he start since that was his big trade. After that save our Chiefs banner flew up, I like to think Clark Hunt saw that and got motivated because then he went out and personally delivered Andy Reid.

[tredadda]

I remember nothing would get him off the field and give one of the backups a try. You know Pioli probably demanded he start since that was his big trade. After that save our Chiefs banner flew up, I like to think Clark Hunt saw that and got motivated because then he went out and personally delivered Andy Reid.

Well to be fair Haley finally said “F Pioli” and started Palko over Cassell. That was when everyone knew his days were numbered. It did take SOC to get Clark to wake up and realize Pioli had to go. Loved how Pioli was involved in the hiring process for Reid as if he really had any say in it as not too long afterwards he got canned. It was great to see that the whole Patriots Way nonsense got flushed and replaced with the golden age of Chiefs football.

[Willie Lanier]

As much as I dislike Carr as a franchise QB, he's unequivocally better than Mark Castle...

[crispystl]

Casell will always be the worst primarily because he was never starter quality and everyone on earth besides Pioli knew he was garbage and he was paid like a high end QB.


The whole thing was super weird. Like Pioli HAD to know. Then later on we heard about Hailey and some things so the entire situation still seems a bit off to me.


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[TEX]

Total failure. Like Todd Marinovich. Think back to how you felt after that fiasco.

[Dunerdr]

It's weird to me that the pat mcafee show has him on occasionally as like a guest expert, but then again Dane Orshlovsky is a qb analyst guru guy on tv.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

It's weird to me that the pat mcafee show has him on occasionally as like a guest expert, but then again Dane Orshlovsky is a qb analyst guru guy on tv.

What is strange about it?

Most of the best coaches weren't great players or didn't play in the NFL.

[Dunerdr]

What is strange about it?

Most of the best coaches weren't great players or didn't play in the NFL.

Well he fucking sucked, and as an electrician i dont normally go to the guy with three fingers and burns on his face for advice.

[Chris Meck]

Well he ****ing sucked, and as an electrician i dont normally go to the guy with three fingers and burns on his face for advice.

Well...he can probably tell you what NOT to do anyway.

[Dunerdr]

Well...he can probably tell you what NOT to do anyway.

Do not lob hats at your own head.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

No Cassel tomorrow

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Total failure. Like Todd Marinovich. Think back to how you felt after that fiasco.

He wasn't allowed to eat Big Macs.

[ChiefaRoo]

Shit

[Ming the Merciless]

some of the greatest chiefsplanet times

the depths of misery made us want so much more

we knew alex Smith was not it

and contrasted to the pure joy of trading for mahomes'pick

without the cassel Era, I would've never experienced the ecstasy as deeply of this era

[scho63]

some of the greatest chiefsplanet times

the depths of misery made us want so much more

we knew alex Smith was not it

and contrasted to the pure joy of trading for mahomes'pick

without the cassel Era, I would've never experienced the ecstasy as deeply of this era

I'm not even sure Cassel was the lowest point of our 50 year draught and wandering through the darkness. It was ugly but damn Paul Wiggin, Frank Gansz and John Mackovic as head coaches don't exactly give you the warm and fuzzies.
The 70's and 80's were dark, scary times.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Mahomes
Lenny
Trent
Alex
Cassel

Top 5 QB in team history?

[scho63]

Mahomes
Lenny
Trent
Alex
Cassel

Top 5 QB in team history?

Fail!

Where's Gannon or Deberg or Montana?

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Fail!

Where's Gannon or Deberg or Montana?

Can't forget Thigpen! :D

[TEX]

Turd

[Mecca]

Going into the Mahomes draft, things were rough.

We'd just lost a playoff game where our opponent failed to score a TD and we had a lead early with the fastest man in the game streaking wide-open down the field, only to see our QB chicken out.

It was getting awfully difficult to convince myself that we could win a championship with the formula we'd been using. Even with a steady, dependable, firmly above average QB, I just couldn't convince myself that we were going to win a title.

Mahomes, even before we knew he'd be this (because seriously - MVP and SB MVP with 2 years left on his rookie deal was on very few people's lists of possibilities) changed everything.

It was hope. It was a sign that the organization saw things the same way I did.

That was kinda it for me, I was done, I had other shit going on and I was like this team ain't never gonna win shit. I was like I'll see who they draft but odds are I'm just done giving a shit...then we finally decided to draft a QB and I was sucked back in.

[rico]

some of the greatest chiefsplanet times

the depths of misery made us want so much more

we knew alex Smith was not it

and contrasted to the pure joy of trading for mahomes'pick

without the cassel Era, I would've never experienced the ecstasy as deeply of this era

This is perfect.

[Otter]

The worst starting QB I've ever seen. Seriously I think we could have stuck Hammock Parties out there and paid him a lot less with the same results.

He's the NFL equivalent of a prison love story.

[scho63]

Brodie Croyle 0-10 career with the Chiefs.

He is technically the biggest piece of shit we ever had.