Should we have signed Jameis winston?

[tyecopeland]

He signed with the saints for 1.1 mil with unlikely incentives that could take him up to 4.7 mil.

If he rehabs his image he'll get a chance to sign a starters job next year which would fetch the saints a comp pick. Theres little risk. Besides the risk that he might have to play and continue to be reckless.

Meanwhile we are paying chad henne 1.6 mil and also praying like hell that he doesnt have to take the field.

[ChiefBlueCFC]

no

[wazu]

If they had I'd have been fine with it. If we need him I have no doubt Reid would find a way to get the "good' Jameis to show up. That said, he's kind of a knucklehead and so assuming Mahomes stays healthy would pretty much just be a liability.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

Y tho

[banyon]

That does sound like a good deal and with favorable terms. I'd take Winston over Henne in a spot start. Can't win em all. But maybe Winston agreed to those terms because he is willing to take less with hope he can supplant Brees after his retirement, where the same is not going to happen here.

[Ubeja Vontell]

I wouldn't want him on my team in any capacity.

[Skyy God]

Crab/PussyGrabber doesn't seem like a Reid QB......

[tyecopeland]

Y tho

Thought I explained...

For a possible comp pick if he signs a bigger deal next offseason. I think a season under Payton or reid would rehab his reputation regardless of of he ever gets on the field to play this year.

I wouldn't want him starting for us anymore than I hope henne never has to start.

[ChiliConCarnage]

The Chiefs won't need a new QB next year the Saints very well may. He's not coming here for the same money

[Deberg_1990]

Chiefs backup QB seems like a pretty sweet deal. Who wouldn’t want to learn from Reid and Mahomes?

[threebag]

Fuck No .

[CasselGotPeedOn]

Thought I explained...

For a possible comp pick if he signs a bigger deal next offseason. I think a season under Payton or reid would rehab his reputation regardless of of he ever gets on the field to play this year.

I wouldn't want him starting for us anymore than I hope henne never has to start.

But y tho

[carcosa]

no

this

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

The ketchup on his W would be worth it

[Hoover]

He signed there because it basically a tryout for 2021.

Brees is gone next year. Why backup Mahomes he's not going anywhere.

[rabblerouser]

He signed there because it basically a tryout for 2021.

Brees is gone next year. Why backup Mahomes he's not going anywhere.

This. They hope they can pull a reBridgewater with Winston.

[Athis]

Not sure how I feel about this signing.. He is all humble right now and signed a real prove it deal...
$148,000 signing bonus
$952,000 base salary
$1.76M playtime incentives
$1.8M playoff playtime incentives
$40,000 Pro Bowl incentive
Base $1.1M. Max $4.7M with incentives.
Maybe he just needs some real training and get away from Tampa..

[Shields68]

He signed there because it basically a tryout for 2021.

Brees is gone next year. Why backup Mahomes he's not going anywhere.

That and presently we can barely fit a bag of chips under the cap. May need to save what little room we have for a late season Suggs like signing.

[tyecopeland]

He signed there because it basically a tryout for 2021.

Brees is gone next year. Why backup Mahomes he's not going anywhere.

Brees signed a 2 year deal so it's possible he stays for both years. But yeah, I know why winston would prefer the saints. But learning from mahomes and reid has to be as tempting as doing it from Brees and payton if you take out the possible starting gig a year down the line.

But if we could have signed him for the same deal would you rather have winston or henne for half a mil more?

[alpha_omega]

No. I'll have no part of any QB that threw 30 INTs, thank you.

[rabblerouser]

Brees signed a 2 year deal so it's possible he stays for both years. But yeah, I know why winston would prefer the saints. But learning from mahomes and reid has to be as tempting as doing it from Brees and payton if you take out the possible starting gig a year down the line.

But if we could have signed him for the same deal would you rather have winston or henne for half a mil more?
In this offense!? Winston all the way.

[rabblerouser]

No. I'll have no part of any QB that threw 30 INTs, thank you.

He wouldn't be a starter for any length of time, and Andy would break him of the interception machine, anyway.

[oldman]

Not unless he could play CB as well.

[BWillie]

Appears to be a good leader because he's rah rah guy, but he's a bad teammate and has a riddled past of indiscretions. No thanks.

[tyecopeland]

That and presently we can barely fit a bag of chips under the cap. May need to save what little room we have for a late season Suggs like signing.

But he signed for less than what we are paying henne. It was all too late anyway because we guaranteed a big part of hennes contract at signing. But in a bubble we could have signed winston and saved half a mil.

[Rain Man]

It's an interesting concept, but would he be useful in the quarterback room each week? My impression is that Henne is mostly Mahomes' game plan assistant. I could be wrong, but I don't have the impression that Winston is that type of guy.

Edit: maybe I'm wrong. Winston got a 27 on his Wonderlic and Henne only got a 22. (Mahomes was apparently a 24 if you're interested.) So Winston would be the smartest guy in the room. I would not have guessed that based on personality.

[Dartgod]

Would we get a comp pick if he never sees the field in a regular or post season game?

[The Franchise]

Would we get a comp pick if he never sees the field in a regular or post season game?

Yeah but it’s based on the contract he signs with his new team and playing time with them.

[KChiefs1]

Can he play CB?

[CervezaChill]

As a wise man once said -

Why problem make when you no problem have...

[DaFace]

I just can't bring myself to care who they decide to go with as our backup QB. In Andy we trust.

[mr. tegu]

The backup QB job here is to listen to Mahomes and help him process things during the game and in the film room. Not to be someone Mahomes has to teach or question his knowledge in any way.

[big nasty kcnut]

No!

[Titty Meat]

No

[Bob Dole]

Who? Jameis WINTston?

[tyecopeland]

The backup QB job here is to listen to Mahomes and help him process things during the game and in the film room. Not to be someone Mahomes has to teach or question his knowledge in any way.

Teaching someone is often a great way to see something in a new light or a new way. Or opens your eyes to something you might not have seen before.

[Demonpenz]

Don't know him personally but he seems like a dumb imature prick

[Mahomes_Is_God]

We should have kept Matt Moore and got rid of Chad Weenie.

[tatorhog]

No to Winston, we already know what a "W" tastes like

[alpha_omega]

He wouldn't be a starter for any length of time, ....

Unless the unspeakable were to happen...then you'd be sorry.

....., and Andy would break him of the interception machine, anyway.

Maybe, but i'll take a QB2 who hasn't thrown 30 INTs in a season.

[Coochie liquor]

That does sound like a good deal and with favorable terms. I'd take Winston over Henne in a spot start. Can't win em all. But maybe Winston agreed to those terms because he is willing to take less with hope he can supplant Brees after his retirement, where the same is not going to happen here.

Also playing in the same division as the team who dumped you for a washed up 43 yo qb, could have had some bearing. Chances are as Brees backup, he’ll get to play a few games.

[CoMoChief]

No

[Bump]

I'd rather just bring back Matt Moore

[Couch-Potato]

Sure he's better than Chad Henne but you can't get in on every single upgrade available in an offseason, there are 31 other teams. Plus Chad knows the offense.

[Megatron96]

Winston threw 30 INTs, was sacked 47 times, and fumbled 12 times last season.

And the Wonderlic test is maybe one of the worst ways to measure a player's football IQ. It's basically a reading comprehension and math skills test. I took a practice Wonderlic a while ago and scored a 39. Should I be signed by the Chiefs as the starting QB?

If that test is so great, how did Winston manage to throw 30 INTs and get sacked 47 times?

[Easy 6]

Crab/PussyGrabber doesn't seem like a Reid QB......

He really doesn’t... with all due respect to Tye, it’s not even a question worth asking

[CoMoChief]

I'd rather just bring back Matt Moore

This.

Moore did a fine job all things considered.

Chiefs should have won that Packers game. But God damn that was a throw by Rodgers.

[Easy 6]

This.

Moore did a fine job all things considered.

Chiefs should have won that Packers game. But God damn that was a throw by Rodgers.

Considering how Moore performed, I’m pretty shocked he wasn’t brought back and Henne sent home

What has Henne proven here that Moore hasn’t?

Answer - Nothing

[MahiMike]

Let's get Dalton after he rots on the free agency vine.

[TribalElder]

that guy isn't worth 10 bucks

plus he steals prawns

[TEX]

No.

[Chief Roundup]

Oh hell no

[tyecopeland]

He really doesn’t... with all due respect to Tye, it’s not even a question worth asking

Eh. :shrug: I really only asked because of the possibility of a comp pick. After having mahomes no backup is gonna be good. I figured the allure of a possible comp pick would entice more yes responses.

As others have said, I would have rather rolled with Moore anyway. At this point we are stuck with henne, so any argument is/was moot after he got 2 mil guaranteed.

[Easy 6]

Eh. :shrug: I really only asked because of the possibility of a comp pick. After having mahomes no backup is gonna be good. I figured the allure of a possible comp pick would entice more yes responses.

As others have said, I would have rather rolled with Moore anyway. At this point we are stuck with henne, so any argument is/was moot after he got 2 mil guaranteed.

Honestly don’t get Henne over Moore, at all

There must be some kinda finer points of the game type stuff fans aren’t aware of factoring in there

[scho63]

I think this was a dumb move by Tampa Bay. Use Brady to teach him.

If they let him go they must think he is HORRIBLE.

[FloridaMan88]

Andy is not bringing in a QB who threw 30 INT’s last season... even as a back-up.

[R Clark]

This is dumbest idea that has ever been posted on this web site.id rather have Moore back in a minute. Win

[R Clark]

Winston has a ten cent brain

[scho63]

Winston has a ten cent brain

It certainly seems that way for Tampa to give up on him.