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Jenson71
05-27-2020, 10:40 PM
Yes, it's Mahomes.

As determined by Yahoo Sports Staff.

https://sports.yahoo.com/yahoo-sports-25-under-25-the-top-5-jackson-biles-mahomes-181639554.html

25. Karl-Anthony Towns
Averaging 26.5 points, 10.8 rebounds and 4.4 assists, Towns could be one of the 25 best players in the game if he never got a lick better. . . .

24. Joey Bosa
The only argument against Joey Bosa on the list is that his brother Nick, already a star with the San Francisco 49ers, might be even better. Time will tell. But Joey was first into the NFL and made an instant splash, winning NFL defensive rookie of the year despite a rare rookie holdout. It was apparent right away why the Chargers made him the third overall pick in the 2016 draft. . . .

23. Bianca Andreescu
In June 2019 it was “We the North” that rang out through Canada after the Toronto Raptors captured their first NBA championship. Three months later the nation shifted to “She the North,” throwing support behind 19-year-old tennis star Bianca Andreescu at the U.S. Open. . . .

22. Joe Burrow
The author of perhaps the greatest season by a quarterback in college football history, Burrow is often referred to as a comet who descended magically from the sky early in LSU’s championship-winning campaign in 2019. . . .

21. Ronald Acuña Jr.
The greats always make the impossible look easy.

Steph Curry shooting a jumper. Patrick Mahomes flicking a touchdown pass. And Ronald Acuña Jr. doing … well, pretty much anything on a baseball field. . . .

20. Christian Pulisic
In almost four seasons as a regular with German titan Borussia Dortmund, the Pennsylvania native established himself as not just the most promising American soccer player in Europe, but as one of the best attacking prospects anywhere in the sport. . . .

19. Auston Matthews
When it comes to Auston Matthews, there is a truly unique cross-section at work.

This is both the most talented U.S.-born hockey player of his generation and among the handful of most famous and influential athletes in Canada. He started on his improbable ascent from the grassroots programs of a foremost non-traditional hockey market in Arizona to star in the mecca of hockey as the face of the franchise with the Toronto Maple Leafs. . . .

18. Juan Soto
In Game 6 of the World Series, 2019 Cy Young winner Justin Verlander threw a high-and-inside fastball to Juan Soto. The pitch was correctly called a ball, leading to chirping from Verlander and his catcher.

Soto responded by calmly nodding his head, grabbing his groin and staring at the pitcher. After that, he stepped back into the batter’s box, smiled and confirmed to the ump that it was a ball.

And then he devoured Verlander’s soul. . . .

17. Jayson Tatum
When you think of talented young players, the Boston Celtics forward is near the top of the list. It’s because rarely do you see a 6-foot-8 player utilizing guard skills. His offensive repertoire has been compared to those of Kobe Bryant and Tracy McGrady. . . .

16. Deshaun Watson
Watson is the rarest of athletes, the guy who started winning big as a kid and kept on winning at every level, no matter how tough the competition grew. . . .

15. Trae Young
In just his sophomore campaign, Young emerged as one of the elite point guards in the NBA. His soaring popularity led to him being voted in as an All-Star starter, becoming the first Atlanta Hawks player since Dikembe Mutombo in 1998 to receive the honor. . . .

14. Kylian Mbappe
Before he was even out of his teens, more than a billion people saw what Kylian Mbappe is capable of. . . .

13. Connor McDavid
It isn’t just that hockey fans are losing out on the Stanley Cup Playoffs. It’s also that they’re missing out on something they’re never assured to see: the single greatest player on the planet involved at the time the sport is played at its highest level. . . .

12. Cody Bellinger
In his first three seasons in the majors, Cody Bellinger has passed nearly every test. Rookie of the Year award? Check. Multiple All-Star appearances? Check. Gold Glove award? Check. Silver Slugger award? Check. MVP? Also check. . . .

11. Naomi Osaka
For many, the first memory of Naomi Osaka is a strange one: in her greatest tennis moment, she was in tears, the little sister we wanted to comfort. Osaka beat Serena Williams in the 2018 U.S. Open final, a match marred by controversial umpiring. . . .

10. Ja Morant
What’s special about Morant is his ability to walk into Memphis, at 20 years old, and take command of the city. Morant’s arrival and his quick and easy chemistry with teammates Jaren Jackson and Dillon Brooks have revitalized the identity of the rebuilding Grizzlies and led them to the No. 8 seed in the playoff hunt. . . .

9. Saquon Barkley
It wasn’t that long ago that drafting a running back in the top five wouldn’t get you laughed out of the room. Saquon Barkley was the reason why.

A weight-room champion with 4.4 speed and wide receiver skills out of the backfield, the Penn State standout was as close to a sure thing as there is coming out of Happy Valley. He more than lived up to the hype during his 2018 rookie campaign after being selected with the No. 2 overall pick. . . .

8. Katie Ledecky
With four gold medals and a silver in Rio de Janeiro, Ledecky was the most decorated female athlete of the 2016 Olympics when she was still below drinking age. She won the 400m and 800m freestyle golds by a total of 10.45 seconds. By comparison, the winners of the equivalent male events prevailed by a combined 1.36 seconds. . . .

7. Christian McCaffrey
After a solid rookie campaign with 1,086 yards from scrimmage and seven touchdowns in 2017, McCaffrey broke through as a one-of-a-kind talent during his second year as a pro. He tallied 1,098 yards while averaging five yards per carry on the ground and catching an astonishing 107 of 124 targets out of the backfield for 867 receiving yards. He crossed the goal line 13 times in the process. . . .

6. Sabrina Ionescu
The 2K-1K-1K club in NCAA Division I basketball is a group of one. One woman. . . .

5. Luka Doncic
Luka Doncic didn’t play college basketball in the United States. Many here knew very little about him upon his arrival to the league last year.

Yet in just a season and a half, Doncic has more than transformed himself into a household name — and is well on his way to being a true superstar in the NBA. . . .

4. Zion Williamson
In terms of electricity, who provides more than Zion? His debut was delayed and the sample size is small, but the confidence in his ability to deliver is second to none — or maybe second to Patrick Mahomes once we realized Zion’s early games were no fluke. . . .

3. Lamar Jackson
“Not bad for a running back.”

With those now-famous words following a Week 1 evisceration of the Miami Dolphins, Lamar Jackson sent a message to the football world: He remembers.. . .

2. Simone Biles
Imagine being 23 years old and considered the best in the history of your sport. The sport is gymnastics, where anything past 19 is usually considered old, but Simone Biles has sewn up the GOAT title at an age when most of us are still trying to figure out what we’re great at. Or at least what we’re good at. . . .

1. Patrick Mahomes
We didn’t know a lot about Patrick Mahomes when he was drafted in 2017. He was raw, in a pass-friendly offense at Texas Tech. He went 10th in the draft, the second quarterback selected — the Chicago Bears will never live down picking Mitchell Trubisky second overall — and one pick after receiver John Ross went to the Cincinnati Bengals. Mahomes clearly had potential, but nobody knew he’d be a superstar.

Three years later, he’s the biggest athlete in American sports under 25 years old.

Mahomes checks every “face of the league” box. He’s cool yet able to laugh at himself, whether it’s his Kermit the Frog voice or putting ketchup on everything. He’s wise beyond his years thanks to growing up as the son of a major league pitcher. He’s instantly recognizable in a sport that hides its stars in helmets. Oh, and he’s a joy to watch, with his cannon arm and no-look passes.

Chief Northman
05-27-2020, 10:42 PM
That’s my quarterback.

(Tear shed)

big nasty kcnut
05-27-2020, 10:44 PM
He's my qb mine i tell you.

smithandrew051
05-27-2020, 10:45 PM
Patrick Mahomes should be ranked higher than 1

Halfcan
05-27-2020, 10:49 PM
16. Deshaun Watson
Watson is the rarest of athletes, the guy who started winning big as a kid and kept on winning at every level, no matter how tough the competition grew. . . . except in the Playoffs where he choked away a historic lead to the Chiefs.

Halfcan
05-27-2020, 10:52 PM
24. Joey Bosa
The only argument against Joey Bosa on the list is that his brother Nick, already a star with the San Francisco 49ers, might be even better. Time will tell. But Joey was first into the NFL and made an instant splash, winning NFL defensive rookie of the year despite a rare rookie holdout. It was apparent right away why the Chargers made him the third overall pick in the 2016 draft. . . . the often injured Bosa is a 3-time Preseason-SuperBowl champ according to the media.

Direckshun
05-27-2020, 11:09 PM
I'm sorry but Simone Biles is far and away the #1, all sports being equal.

Mahomes likely takes it over her because he's the best player in our biggest sport.

But his accomplishments in the NFL pale in comparison to Biles', who is more than "merely" generational. She is the best athlete history has ever seen at one of the most popular sports globally.

ThaVirus
05-28-2020, 06:51 AM
She is the best athlete history has ever seen at one of the most popular sports globally.

Coming from someone who knows next to nothing about Simone Biles, this seems like a wild take.

Direckshun
05-28-2020, 06:56 AM
Coming from someone who knows next to nothing about Simone Biles, this seems like a wild take.

Is Mahomes absolutely the best football player who ever lived?

Biles is absolutely the best gymnast who ever lived.

EricBerryismyBae
05-28-2020, 07:08 AM
These lists are always so terrible. Kylian Mbappe is one of the best soccer players in the world and helped France win a World Cup already. Should be 2nd at worst.

Frazod
05-28-2020, 07:28 AM
And here come the retards. :drool:

Rain Man
05-28-2020, 08:01 AM
I'm sorry but Simone Biles is far and away the #1, all sports being equal.

Mahomes likely takes it over her because he's the best player in our biggest sport.

But his accomplishments in the NFL pale in comparison to Biles', who is more than "merely" generational. She is the best athlete history has ever seen at one of the most popular sports globally.

Did she lead three straight double-digit comebacks in the gymnastics playoffs to win the gymnastics Super bowl?

Rain Man
05-28-2020, 08:02 AM
These lists are always so terrible. Kylian Mbappe is one of the best soccer players in the world and helped France win a World Cup already. Should be 2nd at worst.

Did he/she lead three straight double-digit comebacks in the soccer playoffs to win the soccer Super bowl?

JimNasium
05-28-2020, 08:03 AM
These lists are always so terrible. Kylian Mbappe is one of the best soccer players in the world and helped France win a World Cup already. Should be 2nd at worst.

It’s not only soccer, it’s French soccer. That should make disqualification from the list mandatory.

ThaVirus
05-28-2020, 08:21 AM
Is Mahomes absolutely the best football player who ever lived?

Biles is absolutely the best gymnast who ever lived.

I think I misread your original post.

I kinda keyed on the "best athlete in history" part. I thought you were saying she was the best athlete of all time, regardless of the sport.

Beef Supreme
05-28-2020, 08:21 AM
I'm sorry but Simone Biles is far and away the #1, all sports being equal.

Mahomes likely takes it over her because he's the best player in our biggest sport.

But his accomplishments in the NFL pale in comparison to Biles', who is more than "merely" generational. She is the best athlete history has ever seen at one of the most popular sports globally.

Well, considering most gymnasts are retired by 25 years old, and a lot of them peak at like 13, a gymnast who is 23 years old is basically Tom Brady's age in dog years. So she should be disqualified.

Demonpenz
05-28-2020, 08:53 AM
Tre Young is fun and the blueprint is there to be a chucker and slasher and win, but I want to see more wins and my perception is he is a stat whore. Good on him though for breaking in a big time way. I am on board with Simone Biles #1 you could make an argument there for sure.

smithandrew051
05-28-2020, 09:18 AM
I'm sorry but Simone Biles is far and away the #1, all sports being equal.

Mahomes likely takes it over her because he's the best player in our biggest sport.

But his accomplishments in the NFL pale in comparison to Biles', who is more than "merely" generational. She is the best athlete history has ever seen at one of the most popular sports globally.

Mahomes is a way better QB than Biles

BigBeauford
05-28-2020, 09:25 AM
I'm sorry but Simone Biles is far and away the #1, all sports being equal.

Mahomes likely takes it over her because he's the best player in our biggest sport.

But his accomplishments in the NFL pale in comparison to Biles', who is more than "merely" generational. She is the best athlete history has ever seen at one of the most popular sports globally.

She's really good in a sport that people only give a shit about once every four years. I am sure there is a really dominant darts player somewhere too.

Rain Man
05-28-2020, 09:39 AM
Mahomes is a way better QB than Biles

And look at his balance beam and floor routine:

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KC Hawks
05-28-2020, 09:51 AM
Can't believe my 6 year old nephew isn't on there.

Deberg_1990
05-28-2020, 10:18 AM
Poor Saquon Barkley. Being wasted in a poor organization.

MMXcalibur
05-28-2020, 10:29 AM
Patrick Mahomes is a quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs.

Direckshun
05-28-2020, 11:49 AM
Well, considering most gymnasts are retired by 25 years old, and a lot of them peak at like 13, a gymnast who is 23 years old is basically Tom Brady's age in dog years. So she should be disqualified.

That’s pretty silly. She’s absolutely amazing.

Direckshun
05-28-2020, 11:49 AM
Mahomes is a way better QB than Biles

Haha. You got me there.

Direckshun
05-28-2020, 11:51 AM
She's really good in a sport that people only give a shit about once every four years. I am sure there is a really dominant darts player somewhere too.

That doesn’t matter. She’s the greatest gymnast we’ve ever seen.

carcosa
05-28-2020, 12:23 PM
Patrick Mahomes should be ranked higher than 1

YES

IM GONNA MURDEE WHOEVER MADE THISMLIST!!!!

RN47
05-28-2020, 12:26 PM
I've only heard of 6/25 of these people, which is okay because they've never heard of me either.

Correction-- I didn't readily recognize Simone Biles' name, but I looked her up and I recognize her face, so 7/25.

But there can be only one...and that's all that matters.

TomBarndtsTwin
05-28-2020, 12:31 PM
That doesn’t matter. She’s the greatest gymnast we’ve ever seen.

That's the thing. Most people haven't seen her, outside of the Olympics.

We see Mahomes ALL the time! Social media, off-season, awards shows, charity shit, off-season, during the season. You can't turn on anything media related and NOT hear about Mahomes at least once a week (even for non-Chiefs fans).

I know who Biles is. But I don't hear shit about her. Ever. Maybe once every couple months. It's not like most people in America sit around watching gymnastics competitions.

No one cares (for the most part) about it, outside of the Olympics.

Rain Man
05-28-2020, 12:38 PM
In addition to his balance beam and floor performance before, here he is warming up for the rings.

https://img.republicworld.com/republic-prod/stories/promolarge/xxhdpi/l91nehgfwzxiw2fx_1580205064.jpeg?tr=w-812,h-464

mililo4cpa
05-28-2020, 01:37 PM
Is Mahomes absolutely the best football player who ever lived?

Biles is absolutely the best gymnast who ever lived.

Yes....Patrick Mahomes is absolutely the best football player who ever lived

Otter
05-28-2020, 02:02 PM
If you couldn't see potential in PM2 you either weren't looking or never played sports.

We've got our John Elway.

(that felt dirty typing but it's a pretty good analogy)

Perineum Ripper
05-28-2020, 02:19 PM
If you couldn't see potential in PM2 you either weren't looking or never played sports.

We've got our John Elway.

(that felt dirty typing but it's a pretty good analogy)


You need to punch yourself in the dick hole for saying that. We all understand what you are saying, but eww.

Graystoke
05-28-2020, 02:27 PM
That doesn’t matter. She’s the greatest gymnast we’ve ever seen.

Not sure if serious.
Have you heard of Nadia Comaneci?
Or Olga Korbut?

Kiimo
05-28-2020, 04:25 PM
Zion over Luka is a TRAGIC miscalculation.

RINGLEADER
05-28-2020, 04:44 PM
Best athlete of any age actually.

Rain Man
05-28-2020, 06:15 PM
If you couldn't see potential in PM2 you either weren't looking or never played sports.

We've got our John Elway.

(that felt dirty typing but it's a pretty good analogy)


Are you actively trying to get neg rep?

saphojunkie
05-28-2020, 06:51 PM
Not sure if serious.
Have you heard of Nadia Comaneci?
Or Olga Korbut?

Simon Biles trucks those bitches. She’s the best ever and it’s not close.

Not. Close.

Mosbonian
05-28-2020, 06:58 PM
I can't believe someone actually thinks Simone Biles is a better all around athlete....

No one dismisses how great she is in her sport.....and how long she has been doing it. But let's be clear.....she is great in one sport only.

From all accounts Mahomes could have chosen either a career in baseball or a career in football and would have done well either way.

Let's not dismiss what Biles has accomplished (and the spectre of having done it during the Nassar years) and give her what is due her. She is one of the greatest...if not the greatest in her sport.

But thinking that she is a better athlete than Patrick Mahomes is silly.

Raiderhater
05-28-2020, 07:09 PM
If you couldn't see potential in PM2 you either weren't looking or never played sports.

We've got our John Elway.

(that felt dirty typing but it's a pretty good analogy)

I remember a time when I liked you.

Deberg_1990
05-28-2020, 07:19 PM
Christian Pulisic needs more love.

eDave
05-28-2020, 07:25 PM
https://i.imgur.com/MsC5hKQ.jpg

Graystoke
05-28-2020, 07:47 PM
https://i.imgur.com/MsC5hKQ.jpg

ROFL

RealSNR
05-28-2020, 08:07 PM
Simone Biles is the GOAT of gymnastics?

Cool. Ubeja Vontell is the GOAT of incontinence.

I wouldn’t rank either athlete above Patrick Mahomes.

Halfcan
05-28-2020, 08:31 PM
I can't believe someone actually thinks Simone Biles is a better all around athlete....

No one dismisses how great she is in her sport.....and how long she has been doing it. But let's be clear.....she is great in one sport only.

From all accounts Mahomes could have chosen either a career in baseball or a career in football and would have done well either way.

Let's not dismiss what Biles has accomplished (and the spectre of having done it during the Nassar years) and give her what is due her. She is one of the greatest...if not the greatest in her sport.

But thinking that she is a better athlete than Patrick Mahomes is silly.

Plus, she does not have 300-pound gorillas chasing her trying to end her career with a big hit.

carcosa
05-29-2020, 12:45 AM
Trying to rank athletes across sports like this is pretty pointless and arbitrary, but Mahomes and Biles are quite comparable in that they both routinely do insane shit that you had no idea was possible. They're way, way above the rest of the list in that regard.

MAHOMES #1 4EVER 4 LIFE THOUGH!!!!!

Gadzooks
05-29-2020, 01:38 AM
Joey Bosa shouldn't be on that list.

tredadda
05-29-2020, 07:21 AM
Perhaps it’s because hockey is not as popular as some of the other sports, but McDavid is ranked way too low. The kid is a utter phenom in the sport and one of the best talents that sport has produced in a long time (even better than Crosby).

Kiimo
05-29-2020, 02:10 PM
I can't believe someone actually thinks Simone Biles is a better all around athlete....

No one dismisses how great she is in her sport.....and how long she has been doing it. But let's be clear.....she is great in one sport only.

From all accounts Mahomes could have chosen either a career in baseball or a career in football and would have done well either way.

Let's not dismiss what Biles has accomplished (and the spectre of having done it during the Nassar years) and give her what is due her. She is one of the greatest...if not the greatest in her sport.

But thinking that she is a better athlete than Patrick Mahomes is silly.



I think you are unclear what an athlete is. There are probably a dozen sports that she would excel at if she put her energy into that. Gymnastics is probably the best test of athleticism of any sport.

I still put Mahomes ahead of her though because of the age thing.

Hayneplane
05-29-2020, 02:52 PM
This list is ridiculously US centric. I am from the UK and very few European Football/Soccer fans would even put Pulisic in the top 5 under 25 footballers let alone top 25 across all sports.

Look up Egan Bernal, winner of the Tour de France at 22 or another pair of cycling phenoms Remco Evenepoel and Matthieu Van De Poel.

Mondo Duplantis athletics golden boy so good so young that he won the European Championship while still at High School and already World Record Holder at 20.

Max Verstappen in Formula 1 also a strong contender

carcosa
05-29-2020, 03:53 PM
This list is ridiculously US centric. I am from the UK and very few European Football/Soccer fans would even put Pulisic in the top 5 under 25 footballers let alone top 25 across all sports.

Look up Egan Bernal, winner of the Tour de France at 22 or another pair of cycling phenoms Remco Evenepoel and Matthieu Van De Poel.

Mondo Duplantis athletics golden boy so good so young that he won the European Championship while still at High School and already World Record Holder at 20.

Max Verstappen in Formula 1 also a strong contender

STFU REDCOAT!!!!!!

Hayneplane
05-29-2020, 03:58 PM
STFU REDCOAT!!!!!!

A very well rounded argument. If this is representative of your usual standard of posting then I won’t be wasting any time looking at your other 16,000 previous posts.

Mosbonian
05-29-2020, 04:10 PM
I think you are unclear what an athlete is. There are probably a dozen sports that she would excel at if she put her energy into that. Gymnastics is probably the best test of athleticism of any sport.

I still put Mahomes ahead of her though because of the age thing.

Then how about you enlighten me....because I was never an athlete at any time in my life and I would never be able to comprehend how one set of skills in one sport could translate into another....like guys who are track stars might also excel in football or guys who play baseball might also be great at golf if they understand the different mechanics of swings for both sports.....or how a great swimmer might also excel at water polo....how a great power forward in basketball can also become a great Tight End in football....should I go on?

And using your logic I am sure there are a dozen sports that Mahomes would be great at if he put his energy into that.

:rolleyes:

I went and googled this just for your edification...pretty sure that several of these that almost any other athlete could also be "perfect" for too.

http://allgymnasts.com/7-sports-consider-retire-leo/


Below, we will go over seven popular sports that gymnasts are perfect for.

Diving. Gymnasts know how to tumble, twist, and flip, which makes them an excellent candidate for diving. ...
Dance. ...
Cheerleading. ...
Snowboarding. ...
CrossFit. ...
Track & Field. ...
Martial Arts.

Deberg_1990
05-29-2020, 04:14 PM
Mahomes would absolutely excel in professional corn hole.

Rain Man
05-29-2020, 04:18 PM
A very well rounded argument. If this is representative of your usual standard of posting then I won’t be wasting any time looking at your other 16,000 previous posts.

I'd say it's pretty representative. He tends to uphold longstanding historical grudges, though it's usually directed at the broncos.

carcosa
05-29-2020, 04:32 PM
A very well rounded argument. If this is representative of your usual standard of posting then I won’t be wasting any time looking at your other 16,000 previous posts.

Oi, piss off, bruv!!!!!

Kiimo
05-29-2020, 05:02 PM
Then how about you enlighten me....because I was never an athlete at any time in my life and I would never be able to comprehend how one set of skills in one sport could translate into another....like guys who are track stars might also excel in football or guys who play baseball might also be great at golf if they understand the different mechanics of swings for both sports.....or how a great swimmer might also excel at water polo....how a great power forward in basketball can also become a great Tight End in football....should I go on?

And using your logic I am sure there are a dozen sports that Mahomes would be great at if he put his energy into that.

:rolleyes:

I went and googled this just for your edification...pretty sure that several of these that almost any other athlete could also be "perfect" for too.

http://allgymnasts.com/7-sports-consider-retire-leo/


Below, we will go over seven popular sports that gymnasts are perfect for.

Diving. Gymnasts know how to tumble, twist, and flip, which makes them an excellent candidate for diving. ...
Dance. ...
Cheerleading. ...
Snowboarding. ...
CrossFit. ...
Track & Field. ...
Martial Arts.


Mahomes is the best QB in the world and he'd be a pro pitcher. Both those involve his throwing ability and his brain. But c'mon with this athlete stuff, can you imagine Mahomes running hurdles or something?

It's okay to say someone is a better athlete. friggin Lamar Jackson is twice the athlete. Mahomes is a better QB though

Sorry
05-29-2020, 05:04 PM
A very well rounded argument. If this is representative of your usual standard of posting then I won’t be wasting any time looking at your other 16,000 previous posts.

How dare you come at the trivia king!

Sidenote, Pulisic is about a B- player among subpar U.S men talent in the sport so it's natural to highlight him in a u.s reporter/s list.

Hayneplane
05-29-2020, 05:10 PM
How dare you come at the trivia king!

Sidenote, Pulisic is about a B- player among subpar U.S men talent in the sport so it's natural to highlight him in a u.s reporter/s list.

I appreciate your balanced response and I do get that naturally a reporter may tailor their article towards highlighting sportspeople that their readership is more likely to be supportive of or already well known.

PurpleRiders51
05-29-2020, 06:57 PM
Is Mahomes absolutely the best football player who ever lived?

Biles is absolutely the best gymnast who ever lived.

Hasn't that Phelps guy won more gold medals than anyone ever. I'd put him as the best swimmer/athlete ever.

PurpleRiders51
05-29-2020, 07:01 PM
Simone Biles is the GOAT of gymnastics?

Cool. Ubeja Vontell is the GOAT of incontinence.

I wouldn’t rank either athlete above Patrick Mahomes.

I really don't consider playing on a jungle gym a sport, but I'm a asshole.

Rain Man
05-29-2020, 07:46 PM
Hasn't that Phelps guy won more gold medals than anyone ever. I'd put him as the best swimmer/athlete ever.

Olympic swimming kind of bugs me. Phelps won a bunch of medals in different swimming events, so he basically did the same thing a bunch of different ways. It's like if we had six versions of the 100 meter dash where you run forwards, and then backwards, and then waving your arms in the air, and then holding your arms straight in front of you, and so on.

I would disqualify Phelps from this discussion for that reason.

Rain Man
05-29-2020, 07:47 PM
I never thought about this before, but swimming events would be better if you could use whatever stroke you wanted, but the different events were different fluids and densities. You'd have a water event, and then a milk event, and then a partially gelled Jello event, and then a pudding event.

RealSNR
05-30-2020, 12:33 AM
A very well rounded argument. If this is representative of your usual standard of posting then I won’t be wasting any time looking at your other 16,000 previous posts.

Shut up and sweep my chimney, limey

Direckshun
05-30-2020, 04:43 PM
So if you’re complaining that Biles isn’t as versatile as Mahomes is, you’re full of it.

That’s only a fair argument against, like, Katie Ledecky, who is maybe the best swimmer on earth but all she does is one thing.

Biles wins virtually every event she competes in, and all the events are different. We know she’s versatile because her sport, which is really a collection of sports, proves it.

Mahomes only does one (albeit very difficult) thing. We’re only *confident* Mahomes would be good at baseball. We don’t know it.

Biles, we know for sure, because she not only does it but she does it better than anyone ever has in the history of the sport.

Mosbonian
05-30-2020, 05:54 PM
So if you’re complaining that Biles isn’t as versatile as Mahomes is, you’re full of it.

That’s only a fair argument against, like, Katie Ledecky, who is maybe the best swimmer on earth but all she does is one thing.

Biles wins virtually every event she competes in, and all the events are different. We know she’s versatile because her sport, which is really a collection of sports, proves it.

Mahomes only does one (albeit very difficult) thing. We’re only *confident* Mahomes would be good at baseball. We don’t know it.

Biles, we know for sure, because she not only does it but she does it better than anyone ever has in the history of the sport.

Yeah.....we will have to agree to disagree on that first statement.

Sorry....Don't buy your assessment of gymnastics being a collection of sports. And you don't either because if you had really thought it through that same type of thinking makes Katie Ledecky no different than Simone Biles in that she competes in different events within swimming.

Interestingly enough I did a comparison on Ledecky and Biles.....(BTW...Biles is 3 days older than Ledecky)

Simone Biles got her first Olympic Gold Medal in 2016, where she has 4 gold and 1 Bronze. Where she has amassed the largest cadre of medals is at the World Championships where she has 19 Gold Medals, 3 Silver and 3 Bronze. Biles has won 35 medals in world competition with 27 being Gold, 4 Silver and 4 Bronze.

Katie Ledecky got her first Gold Medal at age 15 in the 2012 Summer Olympics in the 800 Meter Freestyle. In 2016 Ledecky came home from the Olympics with 4 Gold and one Bronze medal. Her total world competition medal count is 34 medals with 28 Gold, 5 Silver and 1 Bronze.

So if you want to give your argument some credibility you should be arguing just as much for Ledecky as you are Biles. Both are damn good athletes.

The difference between you and I is this....I see Mahomes, Biles and Ledecky as extremely great athletes and have given them their due.

When all is said and done....we will probably see all 3 of them as GOAT in their respective competitive sports.

kysirsoze
05-30-2020, 06:44 PM
I almost agree with Direckshun... but the age cut off gives so much advantage to gymnasts I have to grade her down a little. Plus, major pro sports are such a draw for athletic talent due to the sky high income that I would say it is even more difficult to dominate the sport.

That said it's a silly list. Apples and orange. Still fun to talk about.

Raiderhater
05-30-2020, 06:51 PM
So if you’re complaining that Biles isn’t as versatile as Mahomes is, you’re full of it.

That’s only a fair argument against, like, Katie Ledecky, who is maybe the best swimmer on earth but all she does is one thing.

Biles wins virtually every event she competes in, and all the events are different. We know she’s versatile because her sport, which is really a collection of sports, proves it.

Mahomes only does one (albeit very difficult) thing. We’re only *confident* Mahomes would be good at baseball. We don’t know it.

Biles, we know for sure, because she not only does it but she does it better than anyone ever has in the history of the sport.

Biles plays baseball?

Raiderhater
05-30-2020, 06:54 PM
I almost agree with Direckshun... but the age cut off gives so much advantage to gymnasts I have to grade her down a little. Plus, major pro sports are such a draw for athletic talent due to the sky high income that I would say it is even more difficult to dominate the sport.

That said it's a silly list. Apples and orange. Still fun to talk about.

The whole athlete debate is a fun and frustrating discussion. It depends on how one defines an athlete. And there are various arguments for what the definition is, and few are completely wrong.