Chris Jones Agrees to 4-Year Contract Extension Ahead of Deadline

[Shaid]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2900144-chiefs-rumors-chris-jones-nearing-big-money-contract-ahead-of-deadline


While the deadline is approaching, the Kansas City Chiefs have agreed to a four-year contract extension with defensive tackle Chris Jones, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter and Chris Mortensen.

Schefter noted the deal is worth $85 million with $60 million guaranteed.

The Chiefs placed the non-exclusive franchise tag on Jones in March, guaranteeing him $16.1 million for the upcoming season. He and Kansas City have until 4 p.m. ET Wednesday to finalize a long-term contract.

[TribalElder]

Let’s fucking go!!!

[saphojunkie]

Welp, I was wrong. Not the first time, not the last.

LFG

[Hoover]

VEACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chief3188]

85 million 60 guaranteed

[Pants]

Print.

Them.

[Demonpenz]

Start Printing Season is cancelled sheets but playoff tickets will be available next year tickets.

[Jerok]

Holy God damn ducking shit!

[OnTheWarpath15]

4 years, and Mahomes’ big money kicks in on the 5th year, IIRC.

Brilliant.

[Chieftain]

I like the terms. Veach strikes again.

[Red Dawg]

Damn Veach! Mahomes made this happen.

[redfan]

Fuck YES!!
Oblig:
Print ‘em!!

[RunKC]

$21.25 million AAV. Goddamn

[carcosa]

HELL FUCKING YES RUN IT BACK BITCHES!!!!

[KC_Connection]

Expected after Mahomes did the bargain long term deal last week that preserved cap space in the short term. The rest of the NFL is in absolute shambles right now.

[DJ's left nut]

$21.25 million AAV. Goddamn

Probably a 3 year deal in all likelihood. Little dead money in 2023 when Mahomes deal is due to accelerate and Hill needs a new contract.

So we'll see what he gets in years 1-3. It's gonna sting. This isn't like the Mahomes deal where any figure would've been met with elation. This one MIGHT not work out when all is said and done.

But they're clearly looking at a 2-3 year window for this team and understand that there's gonna be something of a clean sheet redesign done in a few years.

[Shaid]

Jones was worth it. Damn, 2020 is messing with the world but it's all coming up Aces for Chiefs fans!

[FlaChief58]

BACK TO THE SHIP MATIES!!!

[tyecopeland]

Hell yeah.

[Best22]

Sexy

[DrRyan]

That's great! Some old Patriots/Broncos cap wizardry happening.

[RunKC]

Probably a 3 year deal in all likelihood. Little dead money in 2023 when Mahomes deal is due to accelerate and Hill needs a new contract.

So we'll see what he gets in years 1-3. It's gonna sting. This isn't like the Mahomes deal where any figure would've been met with elation. This one MIGHT not work out when all is said and done.

But they're clearly looking at a 2-3 year window for this team and understand that there's gonna be something of a clean sheet redesign done in a few years.

Updated: Schefter just said it’s 4 yrs/$80 million with $5 million in incentives.

So he decided on $20 million with a chance to boost it to his number probably based on sacks, games played, etc.

Veach made this work perfectly. I can’t believe he got this done for a $20 million AAV baseline

[tk13]

Really amazing work by Veach. People have pretty much forgotten Dorsey exists by this point.

Now we just have to hope this winter isn't horrible and we can actually finish the season.

[Hoover]

Probably a 3 year deal in all likelihood. Little dead money in 2023 when Mahomes deal is due to accelerate and Hill needs a new contract.

So we'll see what he gets in years 1-3. It's gonna sting. This isn't like the Mahomes deal where any figure would've been met with elation. This one MIGHT not work out when all is said and done.

But they're clearly looking at a 2-3 year window for this team and understand that there's gonna be something of a clean sheet redesign done in a few years.
If we are in the midst of a mini rebuild in 23, we might not want to redo Pat's deal. Just pay it. But its Pat so if he wants to redo it, fine by me!

[DaFace]

Wow. I was really pessimistic about getting it done. Veach is a master.

[Kman34]

MY BONER IS NOT SAFE FOR WORK!

[Tribal Warfare]

85 million , yet Justin Houston was bitched out on his deal

[scho63]

Good news: We signed Chris Jones and Patrick Mahomes to megadeals

Bad news: a Hot dog is now $106, boulevard beer $75, parking $250 a game and special seat tax of $1,000 a game.

[gblowfish]

This news makes me want to run with my junk hanging out!

[Coochie liquor]

RunItBacktoBacktoBack

[Kiimo]

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[DaneMcCloud]

Awesome news. The guaranteed money is exactly what I was expecting, although I wasn't expecting a 4 year deal.

I randomly watched the Week 13 game against the Raiders at Arrowhead last night and Chris Jones was everywhere.

The dude is just a freakin' beast!

[digger]

Run it back! Let's Go: Part 2 (electric boogaloo)...

[ChiliConCarnage]

I'm surprised. Can't wait to see the exact details

I'm still worried about CB the next few years but the team must not be

[Tribal Warfare]

This news makes me want to run with my junk hanging out!

You're missing out YOLO bro

[Stinger]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Got my boi locked up! <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@StoneColdJones</a> <a href="https://t.co/8KtDqB84f0">https://t.co/8KtDqB84f0</a> <a href="https://t.co/ZRY3HXCkwU">pic.twitter.com/ZRY3HXCkwU</a></p>&mdash; Patrick Mahomes II (@PatrickMahomes) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatrickMahomes/status/1283096856537509892?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Kiimo]

Staylor: right

Me: wrong


Me: happy to be wrong

[staylor26]

Staylor: right

Me: wrong


Me: happy to be wrong

Who cares? Let’s party!!!

[tatorhog]

My memory may be somewhat off, but of the teams I can vividly remember winning the Super Bowl, they have always had 1 or 2 important pieces poached from them.

Veach has done a remarkable job of keeping the band together, plus adding talents like CEH to the mix.

Its a very good time to be a Chiefs fan.

[Frazod]

BACK TO THE SHIP MATIES!!!

FYP :)

[eDave]

Nice

[Buehler445]

Wow. Donald signed 2 years ago and Jones went ahead and signed for 1.25 less AAV. That’s a hell of a deal.

[Flying High D]

RunItBacktoBacktoBack forever

FYP

[ChiTown]

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[Rasputin]

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[Marcellus]

:clap:

[Coogs]

Saw it is a 37 Million signing bonus. So an automatic 9.25 million each year against the cap. So maybe a 10 million cap hit this year?

[CasselGotPeedOn]

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[KChiefs1]

Updated: Schefter just said it’s 4 yrs/$80 million with $5 million in incentives.

So he decided on $20 million with a chance to boost it to his number probably based on sacks, games played, etc.

Veach made this work perfectly. I can’t believe he got this done for a $20 million AAV baseline


I was close but he got his $20 million per year.

[Megatron96]

Damn, I love being right. Especially when I'm shooting blind in the dark.

Whatever. God bless Veach. Knew he'd figure out a way. And I won't be surprised if he figures out a way to keep CJ here after year 3 of this extension.

WE'RE BACK IN BUSINESS BOYS, AND BUSINESS IS LOOKING GOOD!!!

[pugsnotdrugs19]

There’s zero excuse for this team to not win 1 or 2 more SBs in the next few years. The only thing that could stop them is this damn virus, maybe injuries. Perfect offseason.

[Sassy Squatch]

Now the question is did Veach create enough cap to go after one more difference maker or is he content where things stand now.

[Rasputin]

I really really really can't wait to tell my Raiders Pal at work today he is going be thrilled


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[pugsnotdrugs19]

Now the question is did Veach create enough cap to go after one more difference maker or is he content where things stand now.

Would think any remaining cap for 2020 will be withheld for injuries, etc...

They certainly don’t need any more impact players, but if it happens, I’m not gonna bitch..

[suzzer99]

I bet the Times Ours guys knew something - which is why they delayed their normal Monday podcast.

[BigRedChief]

Probably a 3 year deal in all likelihood. Little dead money in 2023 when Mahomes deal is due to accelerate and Hill needs a new contract.

So we'll see what he gets in years 1-3. It's gonna sting. This isn't like the Mahomes deal where any figure would've been met with elation. This one MIGHT not work out when all is said and done.

But they're clearly looking at a 2-3 year window for this team and understand that there's gonna be something of a clean sheet redesign done in a few years.
In 2023 no one is on the roster except Mahomes, Butkicker and Clark(could be released with minor cap hit). This present team is turned over.

[Rasputin]

Now the question is did Veach create enough cap to go after one more difference maker or is he content where things stand now.


I don't think Veach is ever content where things stand will always be a step of the curb.

[wazu]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From NFL Now: How do you do a big-money deal in a pandemic? DT Chris Jones took no signing bonus and will make roughly the same in 2020 as he would&#39;ve on the tag. The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> gave him a lot more guaranteed money. Smart work on both sides. <a href="https://t.co/FhN0RjaHlK">pic.twitter.com/FhN0RjaHlK</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1283102333157728264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2020</a></blockquote>
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[DJ's left nut]

Would think any remaining cap for 2020 will be withheld for injuries, etc...

They certainly don’t need any more impact players, but if it happens, I’m not gonna bitch..

What I'd like to see, though it won't happen, is a firmly average off-ball linebacker who can come in on a reasonable deal and allow us to just rip the band-aid off on Hitchens. I understand that there would be no immediate cap savings by cutting him but it would help a lot for next season to just get him off the books now.

Not sure there are any real alternatives out there, though.

[suzzer99]

MY BONER IS NOT SAFE FOR WORK!

I'm just glad I'm dry-humping my couch at home and not my coworkers at the office. Don't need another trip to HR.

[Sassy Squatch]

So no.

[FAX]

Vindication!

FAX THE VINDICATED

[pugsnotdrugs19]

What I'd like to see, though it won't happen, is a firmly average off-ball linebacker who can come in on a reasonable deal and allow us to just rip the band-aid off on Hitchens. I understand that there would be no immediate cap savings by cutting him but it would help a lot for next season to just get him off the books now.

Not sure there are any real alternatives out there, though.

I think that player is already there (Wilson), although he isn’t going to be used in that way I doubt.

I hate that this offseason is so limited because I think it will make it a real challenge to get great impact from Willie Gay. He should be our best ILB day one, but I’m not sure where the learning curve sits at this point.

[DJ's left nut]

In 2023 no on is on the roster except Mahomes, Butkicker and Clark(could be released with minor cap hit). This present team is turned over.

I heard someone on tv make an excellent point regarding the Patriots.

Their '20 years of dominance' wasn't really 20 years. It was 5 years followed by 10 years of very good then another 5 years of dominance. Brady won all 6 of his rings in two 5-year chunks at the front and back of his Patriots tenure.

Well that may well happen here. As I've said before, Mahomes will be at the head of 3 or 4 different iterations of the KC Chiefs. Some of those iterations will be championship caliber - others will be teams with a puncher's chance because of they have Mahomes.

And I'm okay with that. Just know that the cupboard won't ALWAYS be this full. Kelce's and Hill's aren't in every draft and we won't always have the prescience to get them when they are...

[Chiefspants]

LET’S GOOOO!!!!

[suzzer99]

What I'd like to see, though it won't happen, is a firmly average off-ball linebacker who can come in on a reasonable deal and allow us to just rip the band-aid off on Hitchens. I understand that there would be no immediate cap savings by cutting him but it would help a lot for next season to just get him off the books now.

Not sure there are any real alternatives out there, though.

Wasn't Hitch at least firmly average last year? He's overpaid but we still can't release him until next year at the earliest right?

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It&#39;s not easy to keep a stacked roster together in the NFL. Chiefs cap guru Brandt Tilis deserves a ton of credit for his work: it takes foresight, discipline, creativity and shrewd decision-making to make all this happen.</p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1283103293305225219?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[DJ's left nut]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From NFL Now: How do you do a big-money deal in a pandemic? DT Chris Jones took no signing bonus and will make roughly the same in 2020 as he would&#39;ve on the tag. The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> gave him a lot more guaranteed money. Smart work on both sides. <a href="https://t.co/FhN0RjaHlK">pic.twitter.com/FhN0RjaHlK</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1283102333157728264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2020</a></blockquote>
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Man - he'll have to have a MASSIVE year 3 number. Or two very big ones in year 2.

Because if he's got $60 million in guarantees and took no signing bonus, you have to figure those are going to be in the form of guaranteed salaries. If he didn't make much more in 20 than he'd have made under the tag, that's $17 million or so and you have $43 million to cover in years 2 and 3 (presuming year 4 to be the remaining $25 million in non-guaranteed money).

So $17, $21, $22 and $25?

That's a well compensated defensive line, now.

Gonna be tough to retain Fisher, Mathieu and Ward - gotta figure at least 2 of those guys will eventually be let go. They'll get something done with Kelce and Schwartz I'm sure.

[Old Dog]

Happy to be wrong on this one

[PHOG]

Veach hits it out of the park! :thumb:

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/PatrickMahomes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PatrickMahomes</a> reacts to the Chris Jones deal �� <a href="https://t.co/5pmOsp0mp4">pic.twitter.com/5pmOsp0mp4</a></p>&mdash; NFL on ESPN (@ESPNNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/status/1283105693051035655?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Megatron96]

Now the question is did Veach create enough cap to go after one more difference maker or is he content where things stand now.

My gut tells me that there's at least one more move that Veach has up his sleeve. Not necessarily the biggest name guy but someone that's going to make a significant contribution to the team, probably on defense, probably a LB/DE. I was half-kidding a few months ago when I said that Veach was paying chess, but now I'm 100% confident that's exactly what he's doing. He had all of this planned, from Clark, Mahomes' deal, to Watkins, and now CJ.

And he's already figured out what this team is going to look like 5 years down the road.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

My gut tells me that there's at least one more move that Veach has up his sleeve. Not necessarily the biggest name guy but someone that's going to make a significant contribution to the team, probably on defense, probably a LB/DE. I was half-kidding a few months ago when I said that Veach was paying chess, but now I'm 100% confident that's exactly what he's doing. He had all of this planned, from Clark, Mahomes' deal, to Watkins, and now CJ.

And he's already figured out what this team is going to look like 5 years down the road.

We still need to sign our rookies

[DJ's left nut]

Wasn't Hitch at least firmly average last year? He's overpaid but we still can't release him until next year at the earliest right?

Nah, you could release him this year - you'd just get ZERO cap relief. His dead money virtually matches his cap hit.

The benefit would not come until next season when he's a -0- on the balance sheet. Whereas if you cut him next season after keeping him this season, you'd have a dead cap figure for Hitchens in 2021 of $8.45 million. That's why I say you 'rip the band-aid off'. You're making a painful decision this season to make it much smoother next.

The majority of his pay comes in the way of base salary and none of his base salary is guaranteed. If he's not playing to that base, you're better served to move on sooner rather than later.

But if they don't have anyone that can give you a C level performance at his position, you just can't do it. You're hamstrung.

I'd imagine you could get Nigel Bradham on a vet min deal. Looks like Ogletree and Woodyard are still out there as well. Could you put the dot on Wilson and then rotate a couple guys like that around him based on situation w/ Gay getting increased reps as the season went along?

Risky - but that's the kind of thing the Chiefs will have to start doing in the next couple of years and they can get just a little ahead of things by doing it with Hitchens.

But like I said - they won't. Nate Taylor is of the mind that the Chiefs brass loves the guy and think he's indispensable on the mental side for the defense. I guess I'm not in the position to argue to the contrary.

[loochy]

1.) There's no way Dorsey would have been able to get all of this done. Good riddance.


2.) We'd better see the Chiefs actually play games this season.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jones will make a true $20m per year in the first three years of the deal, I&#39;m told. I&#39;m also told it includes $60m in guarantees &amp; he won&#39;t take a signing bonus.<br><br>Last week, I said K.C. needed to get closer to Jones&#39; # &amp; Jones had to be open to something creative. Both happened. <a href="https://t.co/hdV3tBjTEI">https://t.co/hdV3tBjTEI</a></p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/1283105665049862146?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[O.city]

Man - he'll have to have a MASSIVE year 3 number. Or two very big ones in year 2.

Because if he's got $60 million in guarantees and took no signing bonus, you have to figure those are going to be in the form of guaranteed salaries. If he didn't make much more in 20 than he'd have made under the tag, that's $17 million or so and you have $43 million to cover in years 2 and 3 (presuming year 4 to be the remaining $25 million in non-guaranteed money).

So $17, $21, $22 and $25?

That's a well compensated defensive line, now.

Gonna be tough to retain Fisher, Mathieu and Ward - gotta figure at least 2 of those guys will eventually be let go. They'll get something done with Kelce and Schwartz I'm sure.

Guys seem to legitimately love being here. I could see a guy like Schwartz taking a good bit less to stay.

They just love Andy.

[Sassy Squatch]

He was a captain on defense, right?

[KC Hawks]

I don't remember a single play Hitchens has made with the Chiefs.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

1.) There's no way Dorsey would have been able to get all of this done. Good riddance.


2.) We'd better see the Chiefs actually play games this season.

Dorsey couldn’t manage the cap to save his life. Veachs statue better get built ASAP!!

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Let’s gooooo!!!!<br>The Dynasty Continues....<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RunitBack?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RunitBack</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Sacknation?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Sacknation</a></p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1283107589186818050?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[O.city]

I heard someone on tv make an excellent point regarding the Patriots.

Their '20 years of dominance' wasn't really 20 years. It was 5 years followed by 10 years of very good then another 5 years of dominance. Brady won all 6 of his rings in two 5-year chunks at the front and back of his Patriots tenure.

Well that may well happen here. As I've said before, Mahomes will be at the head of 3 or 4 different iterations of the KC Chiefs. Some of those iterations will be championship caliber - others will be teams with a puncher's chance because of they have Mahomes.

And I'm okay with that. Just know that the cupboard won't ALWAYS be this full. Kelce's and Hill's aren't in every draft and we won't always have the prescience to get them when they are...

Here's the thing though, in regards to weapons. Andy has always been able to take scraps and make them into working parts. Albert Wilson's are available every year.

That's the thing with this and where it's different than with the Pats. Bill is a defensive guy. He's always cobbled up game plans and made shit not stink.

Andy can do that with the offense and he's now got a real force multiplier at QB. Sky is the limit.

[big nasty kcnut]

Well i came! Also i knew we were not trading the ambassador of sack nation!

[The Franchise]

I don't remember a single play Hitchens has made with the Chiefs.

First Broncos game of last season. He hit Flacco and caused the fumble that Ragland returned for a TD.

[Chieftain]

The pressure that Jones creates in the middle cannot be understated. Not having him there creates a huge gapping hole. I am really excited to see Willie Gay's play as I think he will be free to wander around the line and tackle people at will. It's not a stretch to say we could go undefeated this season. I know I said it last season but if we stay healthy as a team, who can stop us? Tbis team is loaded on all fronts. And that's rare in the NFL.

[Megatron96]

We still need to sign our rookies

That's a given. But somehow Veach has already figured out how to leave just enough room for one more bargain-priced high bang-for-your-buck guy. Just wait and see.

[dlphg9]

Fuck Wallcrawler. Where is that little douche bag

[KC Hawks]

First Broncos game of last season. He hit Flacco and caused the fumble that Ragland returned for a TD.

Oh yeah, I remember now. Definitely has been few and far between though.

[RunKC]

What I'd like to see, though it won't happen, is a firmly average off-ball linebacker who can come in on a reasonable deal and allow us to just rip the band-aid off on Hitchens. I understand that there would be no immediate cap savings by cutting him but it would help a lot for next season to just get him off the books now.

Not sure there are any real alternatives out there, though.

I think you will see big cap hits start for Chris in year 2022 which gives us 2 more years to find replacement for guys that are not core players.

Reiter
LDT
Sammy
Hitchens

Fisher is likely being replaced by Niang in 2021 or 2022 to free up money too. Also expect Landlord and Kelce to have 2 years added onto their deals to save money in the near future. Just kick that can down the road and keep drafting well.

This is a well-oiled machine

[Rain Man]

Excellent! I had faith that Veach would get it done. Build a new Lombardi Trophy case, because we're going to need a bigger one.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs have guaranteed DT Chris Jones $60M over the next four seasons. <br><br>Jones has established himself as one of the best defensive players in the league. In 2019, opposing QB&#39;s registered a 32 QBR with him on the field and a 59 QBR with him off it. <a href="https://t.co/nykXSTlfHh">pic.twitter.com/nykXSTlfHh</a></p>&mdash; ESPN Stats &amp; Info (@ESPNStatsInfo) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/1283108675469692932?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[DJ's left nut]

Guys seem to legitimately love being here. I could see a guy like Schwartz taking a good bit less to stay.

They just love Andy.

Fisher seems the most likely loss.

As an established LT w/ a long track record of credible play (and at least one championship) on the open market at 31 yrs old, he can probably get a deal that pays him something along the lines of $19 million/season for 3 seasons or so.

His cap hit here will be around $15 million over the next 2 seasons and there's 2 years to find his replacement (not to mention Niang still as a possibility).

Mathieu is gonna be a little long in the tooth by then as well and realistically his deal will need to be re-done for 2021. They're not gonna have him on the cap at $20 million next season. So are they going to want to extend him for ages 30 and 31 to get that hit reduced in 2021? Or will they just thank him for his service, eat about $4 million in dead cap and have a cleaner ledger for 2022?

I'll go on record as saying my guess is that they move on from Mathieu after this season and let Fisher walk as a FA to make room to extend Charvarius while absorbing the increases in the cap for Mahomes, Hill, Clark and Jones.

[tyecopeland]

I think you will see big cap hits start for Chris in year 20222 which gives us 2 more years to find replacement for guys that are not core players.

Reiter
LDT
Sammy
Hitchens

Fisher is likely being replaced by Niang in 2021 or 2022 to free up money too. Also expect Landlord and Kelce to have 2 years added onto their deals to save money in the near future. Just kick that can down the road and keep drafting well.

This is a well-oiled machine

I'm guessing only hitchens will still be on the team next year of people on that list.

[DaneMcCloud]

Gonna be tough to retain Fisher, Mathieu and Ward - gotta figure at least 2 of those guys will eventually be let go. They'll get something done with Kelce and Schwartz I'm sure.

The salary cap is expected to jump at least $50 million in 2022 due to the new broadcasting rights deals and teams will get an additional shot in the arm once the gambling revenues are added to the salary cap.

It's been mentioned in the press that Reid and Veach would like to extend Mathieu soon and I'd imagine they'll keep Ward when his deal is up as well.

The Chiefs have Fisher under contract for the 2020 and 2021 season so if Niang doesn't pan out before Fisher's contract expires, I'd expect to see a reasonable deal for Fisher or some draft maneuvering in order to secure another left tackle that can start for 10 years.

I doubt they'll want to drop $18-$20 on Fisher.

[Chiefspants]

I don't remember a single play Hitchens has made with the Chiefs.

In one of the more underrated plays of the Super Bowl, he drilled Jimmy G. on 2nd and 9, forcing an incompletion and jolting Jimmy. Jimmy was 18/21 before that hit, 2/10 after.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

In one of the more underrated plays of the Super Bowl, he drilled Jimmy G. on 2nd and 9, forcing an incompletion and jolting Jimmy. Jimmy was 18/21 before that hit, 2/10 after.

Wasn’t that Ben Niemann who obliterated Jimmy G?

[Sorry]

Dynasty in the making

[Zebedee DuBois]

I'm quite happy with the signing and the rest of the off-season moves.

I hope we get to see this team in action.

[eDave]

Dynasty.

FYP.

[TimBone]

Man, I'm glad they found a way to make this happen.

[Gravedigger]

Technically he has more Super Bowl rings than Aaron Donald does now.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Anybody check on little Mikey Florio? Poor little d-bag must really be hurting right about now.

[Kman34]

This news makes me want to run with my junk hanging out!

Supposed to be a thumbs up Mr Blowfish.. sorry

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/Mathieu_Era?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Mathieu_Era</a> how’s the real estate in KC. Asking for a friend</p>&mdash; Matthew Judon (@man_dammn) <a href="https://twitter.com/man_dammn/status/1283110481692155906?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Chris Meck]

Fisher seems the most likely loss.

As an established LT w/ a long track record of credible play (and at least one championship) on the open market at 31 yrs old, he can probably get a deal that pays him something along the lines of $19 million/season for 3 seasons or so.

His cap hit here will be around $15 million over the next 2 seasons and there's 2 years to find his replacement (not to mention Niang still as a possibility).

Mathieu is gonna be a little long in the tooth by then as well and realistically his deal will need to be re-done for 2021. They're not gonna have him on the cap at $20 million next season. So are they going to want to extend him for ages 30 and 31 to get that hit reduced in 2021? Or will they just thank him for his service, eat about $4 million in dead cap and have a cleaner ledger for 2022?

I'll go on record as saying my guess is that they move on from Mathieu after this season and let Fisher walk as a FA to make room to extend Charvarius while absorbing the increases in the cap for Mahomes, Hill, Clark and Jones.

Mathieu's playing style isn't about speed or size (obviously), his gift is unnatural football intelligence. Provided he stays healthy, his style of play should extend further than would be typical for his position(s). I would expect an extension.

Either Fisher or Schwartz would be my bet for the first key pieces to go.

[Chief Northman]

Wow!

Such a great time to be a Chiefs fan.

I figured a new deal would have to feature well over 50% guaranteed money and the $60 million guaranteed was in the ballpark I expected, BUT...
I admit I didn’t think the Chiefs would offer that average annual salary - I figured a 5 year, $95 million deal with around $55 million guaranteed would do it. I was resigned to him playing on the tag this year.

Love the player - surprised this went the way it did with some of Jones “venting” recently about a possible holdout and being valued more elsewhere. Cooler heads obviously prevailed and I’m happy they did. Hopefully a motivated Jones dominates for years to come.

[Rain Man]

Wasn’t that Ben Niemann who obliterated Jimmy G?

I think there were two consecutive plays where Jimmy got blown up, one by Hitchens and one by Niemann. If they weren't consecutive, they were close.

This tells me that I need to keep working on memorizing every play of SB LIV. I should know this.

[DJ's left nut]

Mathieu's playing style isn't about speed or size (obviously), his gift is unnatural football intelligence. Provided he stays healthy, his style of play should extend further than would be typical for his position(s). I would expect an extension.

Either Fisher or Schwartz would be my bet for the first key pieces to go.

My worry with guys like that is that they don't slowly erode, though.

The smartest player in the league still needs to be able to reach that threshold of 'premier' athleticism. And as they age, they get closer and closer to that threshold.

By his own admission, Mathieu's slowed over the last 2-3 years. The lower body injuries early in his career have had him aging a little fast than one would expect, IMO.

And as a very smart player, he can play around that with very little noticeable drop-off in his performance. Until....

My thought is that Mathieu won't age gracefully - he'll hit a !@#$ing wall. It'll go from him being an asset one season to a liability the next. And the Mahomes era is going to be one where we're going to have to be willing to walk away from a guy a year early rather than risk walking away a year late, IMO.

I think he'll be fine for age 28 and 29. But an extension is talking years 30-32 and I think there's a damn good chance that he crosses under that threshold of needed athleticism sometime in there. And when you're paying the best QB in football, those start to become risks you should try to avoid.

If that means walking away from Mathieu a year before he hits said wall, I think I'd do it.

[loochy]

@Mathieu_Era (https://twitter.com/Mathieu_Era?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) how’s the real estate in KC. Asking for a friend
— Matthew Judon (@man_dammn) July 14, 2020 (https://twitter.com/man_dammn/status/1283110481692155906?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) <script async="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Buddy, you'd be nice but there's no money left

[Chief Northman]

Buddy, you'd be nice but there's no money left

Christ, could you imagine?
Unfair.

[Graystoke]

PRINT EM!

Oh wait, the Printer is out of ink because we been PRINT EM! SO F"ING MUCH!

[Bowser]

And the rest of the AFC weeps

[Sassy Squatch]

Meanwhile over in Denver they're playing hardball with one of the few players they could actually build around.

[Stryker]

Excellent news! Geaux Veach :clap:

The Dynasty begins...

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stone Cold Jones!!! Lock em in!! Dawggone I love this squad!! <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@StoneColdJones</a> LFG!!</p>&mdash; Travis Kelce (@tkelce) <a href="https://twitter.com/tkelce/status/1283127142746816517?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[loochy]

Hey, we get $8 million back next year from Eric Berry's stupid dead money expiring. That's a decent player by itself for free

[MahiMike]

WOOT!

[Bowser]

Meanwhile over in Denver they're playing hardball with one of the few players they could actually build around.

http://image.al.com/home/bama-media/width600/img/sports_impact/photo/derrick-thomasjpg-d77227c4b2c5b5cc.jpg

[eDave]

Jesus Bowser. NSFW.

Reported.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Every player in the NFL wants to be a part of the Chiefs organization right now.

Except Steven Nelson's punk ass. ROFL

[kcxiv]

People are fucking mad that the Chiefs signed Jones. But Mahomes just signed a huge deal! lol

[eDave]

People are fucking mad that the Chiefs signed Jones. But Mahomes just signed a huge deal! lol

Everyone: How can they afford to pay other players?!?!?
Chiefs: Shut up, bitches.

[kcxiv]

Everyone: How can they afford to pay other players?!?!?
Chiefs: Shut up, bitches.

this is great when they dont know how the cap works and there is a new tv and gambling deal on their way in. lol

[BossChief]

Holy shit the unicorn stays in KC!

[JohnnyHammersticks]

I know exactly how they feel. The same way I felt when everyone wanted to play for the Donks when fivehead was QB. The DeMarcus Ware signing in particular had me out on a ledge.

Nice to have the shoe on the other foot for a change.

[loochy]

Jesus Bowser. NSFW.

Reported.


Indeed. Please put that in spoilers or NSFW tags

[Simply Red]

LET'S HAVE A KC CHIEF ORGY!!!!!!!!!!!!

[loochy]

LET'S HAVE A KC CHIEF ORGY!!!!!!!!!!!!


WELL LOOK WHO SHOWED UP

[eDave]

WELL LOOK WHO SHOWED UP

He's fun.

[SAUTO]

it's fucking happening guys...




AGAIN!

[Gravedigger]

You have a dominant DL, a great OLB, and the best QB in the game locked up for the next 4 years together, along with a majority of your Super Bowl winning team. People are just scared that Jones won't be the same after getting paid, that he'll become Justin Houston, Eric Berry, or at worst Dwayne Bowe. Gotta have faith.

[suzzer99]

Jones-Clark-HB - that's a nice backbone for a perennially good defense.

[suzzer99]

Jesus Bowser. NSFW.

Reported.

Is it safe to come out from under my desk yet?

[smithandrew051]

LET'S HAVE A KC CHIEF ORGY!!!!!!!!!!!!

The guy who does the stuff is here!!!!!

[loochy]

Is it safe to come out from under my desk yet?




NO NO NON NO NO! I JUST PEEKED........it's still there....:eek:

[BossChief]

Watch Veach get Ward signed to an extension, too....just to put another ! on this offseason.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Solid. Nice bang for ya buck. <a href="https://t.co/WAm0uzAwXN">https://t.co/WAm0uzAwXN</a></p>&mdash; Tyrann Mathieu (@Mathieu_Era) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mathieu_Era/status/1283130051689684995?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Easy 6]

I never lost faith that this would happen

He wanted to be here and we wanted him here, now if we can just have a season...

[BossChief]

I’ve got to be honest. I thought he was long gone until the megaextention of Mahomes hit. Chris comments about the situation and the numbers just didn’t seem to be there.

This is an amazing moment.

We’re about to be the first team to win 3 titles in a row.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

steaming ironwood hair curler

[tyecopeland]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Solid. Nice bang for ya buck. <a href="https://t.co/WAm0uzAwXN">https://t.co/WAm0uzAwXN</a></p>&mdash; Tyrann Mathieu (@Mathieu_Era) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mathieu_Era/status/1283130051689684995?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Good god son. Do you understand thread topics?

[eDave]

Is it safe to come out from under my desk yet?

Yes.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/207/210/b22.jpg

[ThyKingdomCome15]

IDK how Veach did it, but he did it. I'm astounded by the body of work he's put in since taking over as GM. I've never seen anything like this. It's special.

And hats off to Pat for working with the team to put forth a flexible deal that he gets paid and the team can retain key talent like Chris Jones.

Amazing owner, GM, coach, and team. All winners.

Let's go!

[kcxiv]

Good god son. Do you understand thread topics?

to be fair, its part of the Mahomes effect.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Maybe I missed it but did anyone post the pic of Randy Marsh covered in his own semen?

I’m a little disappointed I didn’t see that one in such an important and sexually arousing thread.

[suzzer99]

Yes.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/207/210/b22.jpg

https://media0.giphy.com/media/lpGThownBdG6LOZxM8/giphy.gif

[Sorce]

IDK how Veach did it, but he did it. I'm astounded by the body of work he's put in since taking over as GM. I've never seen anything like this. It's special.

And hats off to Pat for working with the team to put forth a flexible deal that he gets paid and the team can retain key talent like Chris Jones.

Amazing owner, GM, coach, and team. All winners.

Let's go!

He said in a recent interview that he has a team for cap stuff. I think he's a good leader that realizes he can't do everything and surrounds himself with capable people. The leaders that fail are the ones who try to micromanage everything. Surround yourself with good people and recognize them when they do well.

[Chiefspants]

Wasn’t that Ben Niemann who obliterated Jimmy G?

You’re thinking of the following drive. Both critical hits, but Niemann’s hit is remembered more because of the time it happened in the game, I think.

Hitchens’ hit happened on the previous series when the Chiefs were down 20-10. Jimmy G. was pulling off his best Brady impression until Hitchens‘ hit. Jimmy went full Cassel after.

[DJ's left nut]

You’re thinking of the following drive. Both critical hits, but Niemann’s hit is remembered more because of the time it happened in the game, I think.

Hitchens’ hit happened on the previous series when the Chiefs were down 20-10. Jimmy G. was pulling off his best Brady impression until Hitchens hit. He went full Cassel after.

Who was it that had the shot that definitely got a bit high on Grapes?

That was Niemann's wasn't it?

#Becausechiefs died right then. 100 times out of 100 that was a flag in years past. By the letter of the rulebook it maybe should have been, but that's the way that hit has been taught for decades and he clearly slid up Grape's shoulder.

But that helmet clearly popped and I was dead certain we were boned. When a flag didn't come out, it was like the sun emerging from the clouds after a biblical flood...

[MGRS13]

This is an amazing moment.

We’re about to be the first team to win 3 titles in a row.Boom! Yep. The ring will simply say best team ever. Can’t wait for the donkey tears this will cause.

[Sassy Squatch]

Yeah, Niemann cracked him right in the face.

[Chiefspants]

Who was it that had the shot that definitely got a bit high on Grapes?

That was Niemann's wasn't it?

#Becausechiefs died right then. 100 times out of 100 that was a flag in years past. By the letter of the rulebook it maybe should have been, but that's the way that hit has been taught for decades and he clearly slid up Grape's shoulder.

But that helmet clearly popped and I was dead certain we were boned. When a flag didn't come out, it was like the sun emerging from the clouds after a biblical flood...

Niemann absolutely had the incidental helmet to helmet and is the only non-call that 49ers fans can legitimately complain about, IMO (but like always, if you're left complaining about the refs, you likely had 10 other opportunities where your players could have won it on the field). Grapes was absolutely dazed after that shot but honestly to the naked eye I didn’t even realize it was a helmet to helmet shot until the replay. You are absolutely right that this play was the death of #becauseChiefs. Because while the Chiefs would be flagged 100% against Manning and Elway, you better believe the refs would have held that one in their pocket when Smith took the same shot.

The General NFL subreddit I follow concluded that this is a flag the refs are simply never going to throw at that juncture in the Super Bowl. Pat definitely took a couple of borderline hits too that likely would have been called in the regular season but no dice in the SB. Most Niners fans I follow no longer blame the refs (instead they rightly blame Shanny + Grapes), the only ones I still see with beef about the no-call are Patriots fans LMAO

[Chiefaholic]

Dorsey couldn’t manage the cap to save his life.Veachs statue better get built ASAP!!

They'll have to wait to see the total cost of adding all the Superbowl rings to his fingers.

[HemiEd]

Holy shit. What salary cap? ROFL We have genious's at the helm.

[WhiteWhale]

Fuck yeah.

Run it back boys!

[ChiliConCarnage]

Apparently 2021 has a 20 million dollar roster bonus that is convertible to a signing bonus. That's interesting. If we used it, Id think it'd make it likely we'd keep him all 4 seasons but lower the cap next season

[Bowser]

Jesus Bowser. NSFW.

Reported.

Fixed LMAO

[New World Order]

Only thing that can stop us is Covid

[MMXcalibur]

Super Bowl victories and jizz.

Everywhere.

[Coochie liquor]

Who was it that had the shot that definitely got a bit high on Grapes?

That was Niemann's wasn't it?

#Becausechiefs died right then. 100 times out of 100 that was a flag in years past. By the letter of the rulebook it maybe should have been, but that's the way that hit has been taught for decades and he clearly slid up Grape's shoulder.

But that helmet clearly popped and I was dead certain we were boned. When a flag didn't come out, it was like the sun emerging from the clouds after a biblical flood...

Because Chiefs died when we drafted a quarterback in the first round. Then when we were down 24-0 at home to Texans the ghost of Because Chiefs came back. But Mahomes pulled out the Ghostbusters Proton Pack, trapped it, and destroyed it over and over again in the playoffs!

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Only thing that can stop us is Covid

Meh, Mahomes already destroyed the Madden curse. Covid doesn't stand a chance!

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Looks like Jones is on a private Jones 2 hours ago according to his IG. Presumably to fly to KC from Miami to sign his contract and maybe a press conference

[HonestChieffan]

Only thing that can stop us is Covid

we will have a year off, then lets see.

2020 is a non season

[Halfcan]

we will have a year off, then lets see.

2020 is a non season

Link?

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I love you <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a>!!!<br>I promise to bring you more Championship rings and a DPOY....</p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1283244051614117895?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[staylor26]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I love you <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a>!!!<br>I promise to bring you more Championship rings and a DPOY....</p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1283244051614117895?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

We love you more big guy!

[scho63]

This news makes me want to run with my junk hanging out!

Your junk has never hung! More like dangled.....:LOL:

[scho63]

Let's hope he has the chip on his shoulder to prove the contract he has and not keep eating bags of chips and fatten up

[eDave]

The replies to the original tweet are crazy. Nobody knows shit about anything on there.

[suzzer99]

Meh, Mahomes already destroyed the Madden curse. Covid doesn't stand a chance!

Destroyed the Madden curse and even had his kneecap sitting on the side of his leg at one point. No one had us winning the SB at that point.

[bdj23]

Damn, Veach is on fire.

This is a completely different franchise from the one I've suffered with for so many years.

[RollChiefsRoll]

BURT VURCH!!!

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

According to Overthecap with the Jones move it puts the Chiefs at 6.2 mil in available cap space. Personally I would try and extend Ward or Kelce as the next move

[mnchiefsguy]

According to Overthecap with the Jones move it puts the Chiefs at 6.2 mil in available cap space. Personally I would try and extend Ward or Kelce as the next move

Don't forget we gotta sign the draft picks. You always want a little bit of cash available in case you need to sign someone due to injury as well.

Veach kept the band together so I am happy.....if he managed to extend Ward or Kelce or even The Landlord, that is just icing on the cake.

[SuperBowl4]

:rockon:

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Don't forget we gotta sign the draft picks. You always want a little bit of cash available in case you need to sign someone due to injury as well.

Veach kept the band together so I am happy.....if he managed to extend Ward or Kelce or even The Landlord, that is just icing on the cake.

The rookies will just replace the top 51 so in reality nothing will change. Kelce said he won’t do an extension until Kittle signs. I’d try and lock up Ward to a 5/40 deal rn

[BossChief]

They aren’t going to even start talking about ward on an extension till next year, at the earliest. He’s only played 2 seasons. He’s a restricted FA next offseason, so I’d expect a new deal at that point that’s an extension to the restricted tender. He won’t have a big cap hit for 3 years.

[BossChief]

The rookies will just replace the top 51 so in reality nothing will change. Kelce said he won’t do an extension until Kittle signs. I’d try and lock up Ward to a 5/40 deal rn

If he were to take a league average deal as an extension, I’m sure Veach would call it a deal. The team has 2 more years of cost controlled cheap play from him before he becomes a free agent.

That’s going to be another monster offseason.

Nnadi and Ward.

[Sannyasi]

Makes perfect sense. You don't let one of the best defensive players in the league walk, especially when they play at a premium position and were a monster in the playoffs.

[DJ's left nut]

They aren’t going to even start talking about ward on an extension till next year, at the earliest. He’s only played 2 seasons. He’s a restricted FA next offseason, so I’d expect a new deal at that point that’s an extension to the restricted tender. He won’t have a big cap hit for 3 years.

I don't think he's eligible for an extension yet, though I could be wrong (the rules on those RFA deals are weird).

But he's shown so much growth over the last season+ that if you can manage to get him extended on a 3-year deal now (in addition to the remaining year on his rookie deal) you could effectively 'buy out' 2 years of free agency and get a SCREAMING bargain on it, IMO.

And yes, there's a chance he plateaus and you have overpaid a bit for him, but those are the kinds of deals I'd like to see a few more of.

Nnadi, OTOH, as much as I love him - he's just a fairly limited and ultimately kinda fungible player. Unless he comes on a $3-4 million/yr deal, I just don't see the Chiefs bringing him back. He's going to be one of those middle of the roster players that will get overpaid somewhere else and we just won't be able to keep him. He's a little like Conley in that regard. With Saunders around to backfill for a couple years, I just don't see him being overly likely to return.

[The Franchise]

If he were to take a league average deal as an extension, I’m sure Veach would call it a deal. The team has 2 more years of cost controlled cheap play from him before he becomes a free agent.

That’s going to be another monster offseason.

Nnadi and Ward.

Get some more cap space next season by dumping Okafor and Hitchens.

[Shaid]

If he were to take a league average deal as an extension, I’m sure Veach would call it a deal. The team has 2 more years of cost controlled cheap play from him before he becomes a free agent.

That’s going to be another monster offseason.

Nnadi and Ward.

Kelce is also going to be 32 when his contract is up IIRC. Add the risk of a Franchise tag pushing him out to 33 and I don't think we need to worry about it being Kittle money.

[tyecopeland]

The rookies will just replace the top 51 so in reality nothing will change. Kelce said he won’t do an extension until Kittle signs. I’d try and lock up Ward to a 5/40 deal rn

We need about 2 mil in space for all the rookies. Their total is about that much more than the contracts they'll replace. So we are in good shape for that.

I don't think he's eligible for an extension yet, though I could be wrong (the rules on those RFA deals are weird).


We can sign ward to an extension. He is eligible.


Also, overthecap has jones new deal at only 80 mil citing florio instead of the 85 initially reported

[DaneMcCloud]

Also, overthecap has jones new deal at only 80 mil citing florio instead of the 85 initially reported

There is an additional $5 million in incentives, which brings the total value to $85 million.

[Hoover]

Kelce is not going to go anywhere. He will make his money, but its not going to break the bank.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Kelce is not going to go anywhere. He will make his money, but its not going to break the bank.

I doubt that. Kelce won’t sign an extension until Kittle does. Kittles extension will Be in line with what Kelce will get

[tyecopeland]

There is an additional $5 million in incentives, which brings the total value to $85 million.

Thanks. I hadn't found that info.

[BossChief]

I doubt that. Kelce won’t sign an extension until Kittle does. Kittles extension will Be in line with what Kelce will get

Yup and that extension will lower his cap hit significantly the first year and probably 2...opening up space for an extension for a player like Ward.

I wonder if they think about trading Nnadi in the next year...maybe a player for player deal for a LB or CB.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We&#39;ve officially signed the CEO of Sack Nation <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@StoneColdJones</a> to an extension ✍️ <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/sFrSSdRLID">pic.twitter.com/sFrSSdRLID</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1283489293474959361?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I like Ward and if he continues to ascend, maybe you pay him... but now would be the time to do so really. The organization has a ton of leverage given that he will only be a RFA next year. Can’t even get tagged until 2022.

This is when you lowball him with life changing money ($7-9m per year), hoping that he bites early instead of betting on himself another couple seasons.

[Dante84]

cross-post, sorry not sorry

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No ��bs... brett Veach is my mutha F***ing Dawg! ��������</p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1283495683190923264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Same �� <a href="https://t.co/5j8qjgGhmI">https://t.co/5j8qjgGhmI</a></p>&mdash; Ty Hill (@cheetah) <a href="https://twitter.com/cheetah/status/1283497761875402754?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[suzzer99]

Remember when King Carl used to piss players off so much in negotiations that they vowed to never sign another contract with the Chiefs? I don't miss those days.

[DaneMcCloud]

Thanks. I hadn't found that info.

No problem. Here's a link to the details:

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2020/07/14/kansas-city-chiefs-dt-chris-jones-extension-contract-details/

According to a number of reports, Jones’ contract is for four years and reaches a total value of $85 million. Jones’ deal comes with $37 million in guaranteed salary with a total of $60 million guaranteed in case of injury. There are $5 million in incentives attached to the contract as well.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

When you consider that Deforest Buckner just got $84m/4, you really have to love this deal for KC.

I think Jones is quite a bit better than Buckner, who is also a great player.

[Shaid]

When you consider that Deforest Buckner just got $84m/4, you really have to love this deal for KC.

I think Jones is quite a bit better than Buckner, who is also a great player.

I also think Jones was pushing harder for sacks to get a better contract, which made him a bit less effective at stopping the run. Now he got paid, I think we see some run game improvements as well.

[DJ's left nut]

I also think Jones was pushing harder for sacks to get a better contract, which made him a bit less effective at stopping the run. Now he got paid, I think we see some run game improvements as well.

He improved as the season progressed in the run game last year.

He seemed to realize that he's a fucking monster. He's always been supernaturally quick for a guy that big, but he didn't always use his raw strength as well as he could've. The man is as powerful as anyone in the game but he was acting more like a guy who needed to use his speed to make up for average functional strength.

So it led to him trying to jump gaps or split doubles; stuff that can work well in rushing the passer but creates problems in the run game for obvious reasons.

But last year he seemed to figure out that he can STILL hit a dude and physically move him. He can use the first step quickness to get into someone's body and simply move him the hell out of the way using raw power. He learned just how devastating his power can be and in choosing to utilize it more as part of his pass-rush development, it actually made him a better run defender in the process.

[Megatron96]

He improved as the season progressed in the run game last year.

He seemed to realize that he's a ****ing monster. He's always been supernaturally quick for a guy that big, but he didn't always use his raw strength as well as he could've. The man is as powerful as anyone in the game but he was acting more like a guy who needed to use his speed to make up for average functional strength.

So it led to him trying to jump gaps or split doubles; stuff that can work well in rushing the passer but creates problems in the run game for obvious reasons.

But last year he seemed to figure out that he can STILL hit a dude and physically move him. He can use the first step quickness to get into someone's body and simply move him the hell out of the way using raw power. He learned just how devastating his power can be and in choosing to utilize it more as part of his pass-rush development, it actually made him a better run defender in the process.

I agree with this. CJ really seemed to make strides against the run as the season went on. By the playoffs, and in particular against both the Titans and the Niners, Jones seemed locked in on his run assignments for most of each game.

My hope is that he's going to work on his vision/recognition, because most of the time when he got burned against the run it had little to do with his physical abilities or even his positioning, but more about his lack of recognition that it was a running play.

[DJ's left nut]

I agree with this. CJ really seemed to make strides against the run as the season went on. By the playoffs, and in particular against both the Texans and the Titans, Jones seemed locked in on his run assignments for most of each game.

My hope is that he's going to work on his vision/recognition, because most of the time when he got burned against the run it had little to do with his physical abilities or even his positioning, but more about his lack of recognition that it was a running play.

Um....

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

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[duncan_idaho]

When you consider that Deforest Buckner just got $84m/4, you really have to love this deal for KC.

I think Jones is quite a bit better than Buckner, who is also a great player.

Both Jones and Mahomes took less than absolute top dollar. Neither maximized their deal for every cent they could get.

Speaks to the environment and these guys wanting to stay together. Jones could have easily pushed past Buckner's payday.

[Megatron96]

Um....

Good catch. Was thinking about two things at once and forgot that CJ didn't play against HOU in the playoffs. Fixed.

I should add that CJ showed flashes of improvement from about the Vikings game onward. he came up big a couple times in the MINN game, and again in the Patriots game, and so on. Things that didn't necessarily show up in the stat lines, but that had an impact on the effectiveness of those opposing running games.

[DJ's left nut]

Both Jones and Mahomes took less than absolute top dollar. Neither maximized their deal for every cent they could get.

Speaks to the environment and these guys wanting to stay together. Jones could have easily pushed past Buckner's payday.

I think it's also important to give Buckner credit for who he's been the last 2 seasons and not the semi-disappointing player he was in his first 2. And really it was just his rookie year - there were damn promising signs in his 2nd year that pointed to that breakout in year 3 (and a really under the radar dominant season from him this year).

Buckner and Jones are very much in the same ballpark. I think there are arguments in favor of both guys as being the #2 DT in the league. However you choose to rank them, I'd hate to have to live on the difference.

They're very comparable players. Buckner's deal set the market and Veach was willing to pay it. I think where the Chiefs benefited most is in structure and may come in later years if Jones is willing to restructure some of those bigger cap hits down the road.

But I don't think Jones took a massive discount here. I think he and Buckner are comparable players on comparable contracts.

[DJ's left nut]

Good catch. Was thinking about two things at once and forgot that CJ didn't play against HOU in the playoffs. Fixed.

I should add that CJ showed flashes of improvement from about the Vikings game onward. he came up big a couple times in the MINN game, and again in the Patriots game, and so on. Things that didn't necessarily show up in the stat lines, but that had an impact on the effectiveness of those opposing running games.

Yeah - he started showing a willingness to just be a general wreaker of havoc in the middle.

I wonder how much Daley's influence could've helped there. The Patriots have long relied on a 'collective pressure' approach where guys just try to get in the trenches, muddy shit up and see who breaks free rather than having elite guys trying to win on technique.

Jones seemed later in the season to provide a very good combination of the two. He was willing to just go in there, gum up the works and THEN try to win the rep if the opportunity presented itself.

[saphojunkie]

The thing that excites me about this contract is that it appears to have flexibility. The cap WILL go up eventually, and when it does the Mahomes deal and this one can be futzed with to make more room.

We have a HOF head coach, the best QB in history, and by all appearances, one of the best GMs in the league.

This is a dynasty.

[BigRedChief]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No ��bs... brett Veach is my mutha F***ing Dawg! ��������</p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1283495683190923264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Megatron96]

The thing that excites me about this contract is that it appears to have flexibility. The cap WILL go up eventually, and when it does the Mahomes deal and this one can be futzed with to make more room.

We have a HOF head coach, the best QB in history, and by all appearances, one of the best GMs in the league.

This is a dynasty.

It's not a dynasty yet. The Chiefs need to win at least two more SBs in the next 6 years or so, and probably play in at least 4 of the next 6 AFCCGs to realistically be considered a dynasty.

But all the pieces are in place right now. Now they just have to play the games.

[staylor26]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My Brotha tapped in! I love you <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealFrankC_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRealFrankC_</a> ... This sh*+ is about to be epic. They’re going to make a movie on this.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MoreGlory?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MoreGlory</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SackNation?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SackNation</a> <a href="https://t.co/WXgVUrALB2">https://t.co/WXgVUrALB2</a></p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1283520085269807104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Shark infested waters.

[BigRedChief]

It's not a dynasty yet. The Chiefs need to win at least two more SBs in the next 6 years or so, and probably play in at least 4 of the next 6 AFCCGs to realistically be considered a dynasty.

But all the pieces are in place right now. Now they just have to play the games.Your math is off.

We get to 6/8 AFCCG’s in the first 8 years of the Mahomes era but only win 2 more Super Bowls?

[Megatron96]

Your math is off.

We get to 6/8 AFCCG’s in the first 8 years of the Mahomes era but only win 2 more Super Bowls?

Think of it as "worst case scenario." You could move the coffin corner a little so we win 3 SBs in the next six years, and then only need to appear in 4 AFCCGs or whatever. I'm not talking about reality as much as just what mathematical projection would ensure that the Chiefs would be thought of as a 'dynasty.'

The point being, that it seems the powers-that-be believe that to be considered a 'dynasty' a team needs to win a bare minimum of 3 championships in a decade, and at least appear in more than half of the Conference championship games to establish that level of dominance.

[notorious]

I always thought a football dynasty required 3 titles in 4 years.

That's how they defined it in the 90's, anyway.

[Chiefspants]

Remember when King Carl used to piss players off so much in negotiations that they vowed to never sign another contract with the Chiefs? I don't miss those days.

It also led to him getting absolutely bent over to prevent angry players/agents from holding out.

[Chiefspants]

I always thought a football dynasty required 3 titles in 4 years.

That's how they defined it in the 90's, anyway.

I'm seeing a lot of 3 in 5 being the definition now.

[notorious]

I'm seeing a lot of 3 in 5 being the definition now.

Works for me as long as the 2 years of not winning a title are still respectable.

[Chiefspants]

Works for me as long as the 2 years of not winning a title are still respectable.

Same. I think 2 in a row would also be huge for how this team is remembered/dynasty consideration, as that's proven to be a very difficult thing to do in this era.

[Megatron96]

I always thought a football dynasty required 3 titles in 4 years.

That's how they defined it in the 90's, anyway.

Yeah, that's kind of how I always thought of it as well. But according to an article I read a few weeks ago, apparently the 'new math' is something like at least 3 titles in a decade, along with the associated 'dominance' (appearing in the playoffs every season/appearing in the Conference championship game/series at least 50% of the time).

[BossChief]

Same. I think 2 in a row would also be huge for how this team is remembered/dynasty consideration, as that's proven to be a very difficult thing to do in this era.

Fuck Dee Ford with a piano.

We should be going for our third in a row this year...

[Brody Wa]

The Chiefs are now at 4-1 odds to win the 2020 SB. They used to be at 5-1. Thats the lowest odds so far in the Patrick Mahomes era of the KC Chiefs.

[DJ's left nut]

I still think the development of Saunders could yield a future w/ Jones taking a fair number of snaps at DE.

You wanna fix that run defense? Run a front 4 w/ Jones - Saunders - Nnadi - Clark.

That's 1200 lbs of human being on the DL and it only gets bigger if you put Pennell in there and we KNOW he can play. So even if Saunders doesn't develop into a strong asset, you still have the ability to play Jones on the edge in early downs.

There's no replacement for displacement and that DL displaces a LOT.

Jones has the first step, length, athleticism and agility to play DE. You play him on the strong side and he doesn't just set the edge, he collapses it. And he has the mass to play the SDE incredibly well even in an Under front. He could be the sort of force multiplier in an under-front that JJ Watt was when he was able to play DE in a 3-4 and still occupy/defeat 2 guys. In Watts prime the Texans were playing 3 guys on the line and getting the movement/coverage of 4. They were effectively playing 12 vs 11.

I'd love to see him spend more time on the edge. He could do some serious damage.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Both Jones and Mahomes took less than absolute top dollar. Neither maximized their deal for every cent they could get.

Speaks to the environment and these guys wanting to stay together. Jones could have easily pushed past Buckner's payday.

This may be naive, but I can only hope their attitude rubs off on the rest of the these guys.

They can have something ridiculously special as long as some of them don't get hella-greedy.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I always thought a football dynasty required 3 titles in 4 years.

That's how they defined it in the 90's, anyway.

Pre and early salary cap era. Bit different now.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

**** Dee Ford with a piano.

We should be going for our third in a row this year...

Not sure we see the changes that we did in 2019 if it isn’t for that mistake though. Is Mathieu our Clark ever on the team? Is Sutton fired?

Not sure we win both either way.

[Megatron96]

Not sure we see the changes that we did in 2019 if it isn’t for that mistake though. Is Mathieu our Clark ever on the team? Is Sutton fired?

Not sure we win both either way.

If the Chiefs had managed to win the 2018 AFCCG and then went on and beat the Rams in SB LIII Uncle Bob would still be our DC. How do you fire a SB-winning coach? Which means we'd still be saddled with Sutton and Dee Ford, Tyrann and Clark wouldn't have come over, and we'd still be the worst defense in the league.

Sometimes the best things come out of the worst circumstances.

Or so I tell myself every time something goes horribly awry . . .

[DJ's left nut]

Eh, if they win a title, Sutton is encouraged strongly to 'retire' behind the scenes.

There were too many steps towards a 4-3 conversion in 2018 to believe they didn't have something along those lines in mind.

I know we like trying to find a silver lining there but it takes more squinting than I can realistically manage. That offsides (or any of those !@#$ing 3rd and long conversions) will haunt me for awhile.

[Chiefspants]

**** Dee Ford with a piano.

We should be going for our third in a row this year...

It's kind of surreal to think about that Ford was very much inches away from bringing his team a title two years in a row. Was Mahomes dunking on Dee for the go-ahead touchdown in the Super Bowl poetic or what?

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

If Veach can somehow get Tyreek, Mathieu and Ward locked up within the next two years I will literally suck his dick with no hands and will cradle his balls with my tongue.

[BossChief]

If Veach can somehow get Tyreek, Mathieu and Ward locked up within the next two years I will literally suck his dick with no hands and will cradle his balls with my tongue.

All 3 of those guys are under contract the next 2 years.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

All 3 of those guys are under contract the next 2 years.

Well looks like I got some dick to suck

[Shaid]

Well looks like I got some dick to suck

LMAO

[suzzer99]

A+ exchange. Peak Chiefsplanet right here.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

All 3 of those guys are under contract the next 2 years.

Reek is locked up through 22. HB through 21.

But Ward is a FA after this season.

[dlphg9]

This is the year Chris Jones takes over the number 1 DT spot. 15+ sacks and borderline elite run D should put him right up with Donald. The shitty thing is that people (even a lot of idiots on here) have this idea that he is a huge liability in the run game and people will hang onto that idea no matter what.

[RunKC]

Have to hand it to Veach. This contract is very protective for the team. It’s basically a 2 year deal as his last 2 years in 2022/2023 has literally no dead money.

That’s a hell of an insurance policy in case Chris has an unfortunate career altering injury like Eric Berry or Justin Houston.

[suzzer99]

Reek is locked up through 22. HB through 21.

But Ward is a FA after this season.

Someone slap that dick out of Mahomo's mouth. Veech hasn't fully earned it yet.

[suzzer99]

Have to hand it to Veach. This contract is very protective for the team. It’s basically a 2 year deal as his last 2 years in 2022/2023 has literally no dead money.

That’s a hell of an insurance policy in case Chris has an unfortunate career altering injury like Eric Berry or Justin Houston.

That's crazy. I've never seen a 4 year deal like that.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Have to hand it to Veach. This contract is very protective for the team. It’s basically a 2 year deal as his last 2 years in 2022/2023 has literally no dead money.

That’s a hell of an insurance policy in case Chris has an unfortunate career altering injury like Eric Berry or Justin Houston.

I could be wrong but I read that Jones’ deal has guarantee mechanisms like Mahomes to where they pretty much won’t be able to cut him. Could be wrong of course but would make sense given that he took no signing bonus.

[chop]

Have to hand it to Veach. This contract is very protective for the team. It’s basically a 2 year deal as his last 2 years in 2022/2023 has literally no dead money.

That’s a hell of an insurance policy in case Chris has an unfortunate career altering injury like Eric Berry or Justin Houston.


Why does the reporting say that 60mil is guaranteed if they can opt-out after two years?

[chop]

Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
More contract details for Chris Jones: *$37 million is due at signing. *$60 million is guaranteed for injury. *It's a four-year, $80 million deal, with $5 million in incentives, making value of contract up to $85 million. https://t.co/gDh7JtAzRg

If my reading comprehension is correct, the $37 million is the amount he is owed for the first two years of the contract and if he gets hurt (and cannot play again I'm assuming) he gets another $23 million.

[suzzer99]

So they insure against injury. But if he just sucks outright or gets caught kicking some girl in a hotel hallway - they can cut him after 2 years? Is that right?

[pugsnotdrugs19]

So they insure against injury. But if he just sucks outright or gets caught kicking some girl in a hotel hallway - they can cut him after 2 years? Is that right?

There’s gotta be a catch.. I think some of the salaries become guaranteed a couple years early, like Mahomes. Otherwise why the hell did Jones take that deal?

[suzzer99]

Yeah maybe it's a year-early guarantee for year 3. So basically he'd have to pull a Haynesworth next year.

[Pants]

Did Veach find a loophole in the Salay Cap with these guaranteed salaries 1 or 2 years in advance?

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
More contract details for Chris Jones: *$37 million is due at signing. *$60 million is guaranteed for injury. *It's a four-year, $80 million deal, with $5 million in incentives, making value of contract up to $85 million. https://t.co/gDh7JtAzRg

If my reading comprehension is correct, the $37 million is the amount he is owed for the first two years of the contract and if he gets hurt (and cannot play again I'm assuming) he gets another $23 million.

So the cap number his first 2 years is 16 mil. and 21 mil. That's the 37 mil. right there. So his first two full years of salary were guaranteed at signing immediately.

His 3rd year cap # in 2022 is 23 million. That is also guaranteed if he were to sustain an injury and the Chiefs wanted to cut him prior to 2022. He still gets his money. Also, his 2022 salary is guaranteed if he is on the roster in 2021. That's the guarantee mechanism.

The fourth year cap hit is $20 mil. That's basically the only year that's not guaranteed. So the Chiefs could cut him prior to 2023 season with no cap implications.

So it's really a guaranteed 3 year deal.

[Shields68]

There’s gotta be a catch.. I think some of the salaries become guaranteed a couple years early, like Mahomes. Otherwise why the hell did Jones take that deal?

Guessing Jones gets a couple things out of the deal.

1) 60 million in case of injury. Which seems like it was a big motivation. He has consistently said he did not want to risk injury playing on the tag. He wanted to make sure he was set for life. 60 million just might accomplish that.

2) It seems to me the the 2021 salary is a few million over next years expected 2nd year tag number. So it seems like the Chiefs bought a option for 2 year 43 million contract for a couple million.

3) He avoids sitting out and getting nothing or risking injury playing on the tag 2 straight years.

[Shields68]

Did Veach find a loophole in the Salay Cap with these guaranteed salaries 1 or 2 years in advance?

Guessing that coupled with no or little signing bonus actually makes it possible to waive the guy and not take a huge cap hit. Which in Jones case might actually be considered depending on performance. Some of the contracts with huge signing bonuses even though you have the right to cut them makes it very expensive to do so.

[DaneMcCloud]

Did Veach find a loophole in the Salay Cap with these guaranteed salaries 1 or 2 years in advance?

No, he's just expecting the salary cap to have a massive influx of revenues after the new TV deals are negotiated and signed before the 2021 season.

What he's done is no different than what the Vikings have done with Kirk Cousins the past few seasons in fully guaranteeing a multi-year contract.

[chop]

Just curious... if the Chiefs were to trade Jones this year would they still be on the hook for his entire salary since it was paid in advance? I know they aren't going to trade him this year but since it wasn't a signing bonus it made me wonder what would happen if they did.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Niemann absolutely had the incidental helmet to helmet and is the only non-call that 49ers fans can legitimately complain about, IMO (but like always, if you're left complaining about the refs, you likely had 10 other opportunities where your players could have won it on the field). Grapes was absolutely dazed after that shot but honestly to the naked eye I didn’t even realize it was a helmet to helmet shot until the replay. You are absolutely right that this play was the death of #becauseChiefs. Because while the Chiefs would be flagged 100% against Manning and Elway, you better believe the refs would have held that one in their pocket when Smith took the same shot.

The General NFL subreddit I follow concluded that this is a flag the refs are simply never going to throw at that juncture in the Super Bowl. Pat definitely took a couple of borderline hits too that likely would have been called in the regular season but no dice in the SB. Most Niners fans I follow no longer blame the refs (instead they rightly blame Shanny + Grapes), the only ones I still see with beef about the no-call are Patriots fans LMAOI have watched that play in slow motion, and I am not sure if his helmet even touches Jimmy G's helmet. I think he hits the shoulder pads, and it just looks like helmet to helmet because of the speed of the play. Jimmy hits the ground hard, and I think that's why he grabs his facemask.

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[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Jones has a nice interview with Schefter today on IG.

Jones said he will win defensive player of the year next year

He is in the process of buying a house in KC and making it long term. He is also moving all of his family up to KC. I believe they live in Florida.

He has college funds accounts set up already for his kids

Called Veach his dawg for life because Veach was 100% honest with Jones throughout this process. Schefter also said Veach is one of the lowest paid GMs in the league

[BossChief]

Make Veach the highest paid GM in sports.

He deserves it.

[Redbled]

Make Veach the highest paid GM in sports.

He deserves it.

Yup and zero impact on the cap.