Donuts. when did they become so hard to make? why is it a mystery to get them right?

[CarlosCarson27]

I moved to Salem Oregon in 2015.
Ive been to 3 donut shops and got donuts at walmart too.
all of them sell donuts that...well, the breading is like bread dough. Its missing something. Its not like pastry dough. It gets harder faster.

did donut shops all change? does Winchells do this now?
seriously? is it that effing hard to make a donut now?
who started this stupid trend?

[ptlyon]

I moved to Salem Oregon in 2015.


There's your problem.

Seriously though, when you say like bread dough, like a cake donut? Or like a glazed donut that might not be cooked all the way?

[The Franchise]

I moved to Salem Oregon in 2015.
Ive been to 3 donut shops and got donuts at walmart too.
all of them sell donuts that...well, the breading is like bread dough. Its missing something. Its not like pastry dough. It gets harder faster.

did donut shops all change? does Winchells do this now?
seriously? is it that effing hard to make a donut now?
who started this stupid trend?

What donut shops in Salem have you tried?

[CarlosCarson27]

There's your problem.

Seriously though, when you say like bread dough, like a cake donut? Or like a glazed donut that might not be cooked all the way?

no, they arent using donut ingredients that i remember. The donuts are more like a breading.. it wouldnt work.. for say.. a buttermilk donut or a french donut.
they arent soft like they use to be

[CarlosCarson27]

What donut shops in Salem have you tried?

we have stupid shops like "all day donuts"

i think they used to be Dunkin locations

[The Franchise]

we have stupid shops like "ll day donuts"

i think they used to be Dunkin locations

Try Bearscat donuts or King donuts.

[KCUnited]

More style over substance, at least here anyway. I worked overnight making donuts the summer after my senior year. When I wasn't glued to the police scanner tripping my balls off, I'd try to pick up pointers from the owner on his dough process. He would constantly be knowledge sharing with other bakers, pizza shop owners, etc in the middle of the night on everything dough. He churned out consistently great donuts as a result.

[CarlosCarson27]

Try Bearscat donuts or King donuts.

Bearscat?

King Donuts.. they open and close too early lol.
why should i have to get a donut like i'm hunting fish? lol

but yeah, pretty sure i've seen a King donuts

[CarlosCarson27]

More style over substance, at least here anyway. I worked overnight making donuts the summer after my senior year. When I wasn't glued to the police scanner tripping my balls off, I'd try to pick up pointers from the owner on his dough process. He would constantly be knowledge sharing with other bakers, pizza shop owners, etc in the middle of the night on everything dough. He churned out consistently great donuts.

but you understand What i'm referring to,right?

[eDave]

It's rather easy to make your own.

[KCUnited]

but you understand What i'm referring to,right?

I'm ruined on donuts as a result. The smell of them makes me nauseous.

[tyecopeland]

Donuts are fake.

Social engineering, media propaganda bullshit.

[CarlosCarson27]

Donuts are fake.

Social engineering, media propaganda bullshit.

no one said they were healthy :thumb:

[TinyEvel]

any non-cake donut, put it in the microwave for 6 seconds. Eat immediately.

[The Franchise]

Bearscat?

King Donuts.. they open and close too early lol.
why should i have to get a donut like i'm hunting fish? lol

but yeah, pretty sure i've seen a King donuts

Bearscat. They’re downtown. Just opened up and they have other shops in the Midwest.

[ptlyon]

but you understand What i'm referring to,right?

A pastry with a hole is a donut. A pastry with no hole is a Danish. You understand what I'm referring to, right?

[srvy]

Speaking of donuts has the good old fashioned bearclaw gone instinct?

[CarlosCarson27]

Bearscat. They’re downtown. Just opened up and they have other shops in the Midwest.

but you get what i'm referring to, right? about texture, ingredients?

[Pablo]

Used to live right by Donut King in NKC. Always tasted great no matter what I got. Don't really care for any of the chains that I've had recently.

[RealSNR]

Dwayne Bowe had the same problem

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[Marcellus]

I'm ruined on donuts as a result. The smell of them makes me nauseous.

Even when you are stoned?

[CarlosCarson27]

A pastry with a hole is a donut. A pastry with no hole is a Danish. You understand what I'm referring to, right?

and donuts were actually better in Caddyshack days

[dlphg9]

Casey's donuts are my absolute favorite. I'd fuck a Casey's donut if I had any self control to keep me from eating it.

[KCUnited]

Even when you are stoned?

Honestly it depends on the place and how often they change their grease. Its that sweet pastry grease smell that gets me. Kind of like when you're at a place and their hushpuppies smell sweet like someone fried multiple batches of apple hand pies prior to dropping the hushpuppies.

I can do donuts fried in clean grease but the timing is completely random.

[excessive]

Went looking for donuts the other day, when I found myself in Hyvee. Damned if they didn't have donut case up and running. Give them 3 stars out of 5. Okay if you're craving donuts but a long way from old school Lamar's.

Whoever said, "I'll give you a dollar to a donut," knew what was coming: large donuts, one fifty; small donuts, one dollar. A dollar, for a donut. It is now the end times.

[Marcellus]

Honestly it depends on the place and how often they change their grease. Its that sweet pastry grease smell that gets me. Kind of like when you're at a place and their hushpuppies smell sweet like someone fried multiple batches of apple hand pies prior to dropping the hushpuppies.

I can do donuts fried in clean grease but the timing is completely random.

We have a local shop called Super Donuts, its not just a clever name.

Freshest most delicious donuts I have ever had.

[BigBeauford]

Went looking for donuts the other day, when I found myself in Hyvee. Damned if they didn't have donut case up and running. Give them 3 stars out of 5. Okay if you're craving donuts but a long way from old school Lamar's.

Whoever said, "I'll give you a dollar to a donut," knew what was coming: large donuts, one fifty; small donuts, one dollar. A dollar, for a donut. It is now the end times.

Nothing beats a glazed Lamar donut. If there is something better I would love to hear it.

[Shiver Me Timbers]

(Ray) Lamar's back in the day (KC)was the bomb. Old gas station on Linwood he converted.
Their current franchise model does a decent job. Probably the best Doughnuts in the Denver Metro area.

[frozenchief]

I agree, which is why I like Krispy Kreme when they're warm and fresh from the oven. Those yeast-based doughnuts just get too tough. At least, I believe they're yeast-based dough. The places that sell these type of donuts have referred to proofing them, which typically means yeast-based. Others are based on chemical reactions for rising, which is what makes them light.

You ever try VooDoo donuts? They have some cool flavors and even though they're not as light as Krispy kreme, they are not as heavy as typical grocery store yeast donuts. 2 stores in Portland and 1 in Eugene. I like the ones with Captain Crunch cereal and the maple bacon ones.

[CarlosCarson27]

I agree, which is why I like Krispy Kreme when they're warm and fresh from the oven. Those yeast-based doughnuts just get too tough. At least, I believe they're yeast-based dough. The places that sell these type of donuts have referred to proofing them, which typically means yeast-based. Others are based on chemical reactions for rising, which is what makes them light.

You ever try VooDoo donuts? They have some cool flavors and even though they're not as light as Krispy kreme, they are not as heavy as typical grocery store yeast donuts. 2 stores in Portland and 1 in Eugene. I like the ones with Captain Crunch cereal and the maple bacon ones.

so its yeast, eh?

yeah, i heard about voodoo obviously. but figured they might have the same issue. but people talk about ridiculous lines

[frozenchief]

so its yeast, eh?

yeah, i heard about voodoo obviously. but figured they might have the same issue. but people talk about ridiculous lines

I'm a chef, not a baker, so I won't claim that I know 100% it is yeast. But ... having heard bakers talk about proofing the dough, and knowing how yeast breads taste/feel compared to chemical leavening, I think it's yeast. But I could be wrong.

This is piquing my curiosity. This website:
http://www.madehow.com/Volume-5/Doughnut.html
claims that yeast-based doughnughts are lighter, which I find odd because that hasn't been my experience. But there is definitely a difference.

And I've found lines for Voodoo doughnuts are worse at the downtown Portland location than at their other location, which is more of a suburban area. So don't go to the downtown one, which might be particularly good advice right now.

[Baby Lee]

old school Lamar's.

STILL the gold standard. Best damn donuts ever.

So far as 'where good donuts went' the process isn't super hard, but it is easy to mess up by cutting corners. Gotta have the right flour and fresh yeast, and fresh clean oil and good standardized procedures for proofing and such.

Mess any of that up and the end product suffers.

[mlyonsd]

As a treat when we were kids sometimes mom would take a tube of Pillsbury biscuits and use an aspirin bottle lid to press out donut holes in them. Then she'd fire up some oil on the stove and fry the donuts and holes. When they came out and cooled a minute she'd throw them in a brown paper lunch bag that had either sugar or cinnamon sugar and shake them until covered.

Excellent.

[eDave]

Frozenchef? Didn't know that.

[BWillie]

I thought they were extinct at Quik Trip when Covid started but now I see their back.

[RustShack]

Why would you make them when you can just go to Hy-Vee bakery?

Edit- I only ready the title and you aren’t trying to make them and aren’t in the Midwest.

[displacedinMN]

I moved to Salem Oregon in 2015.
Ive been to 3 donut shops and got donuts at walmart too.
all of them sell donuts that...well, the breading is like bread dough. Its missing something. Its not like pastry dough. It gets harder faster.

did donut shops all change? does Winchells do this now?
seriously? is it that effing hard to make a donut now?
who started this stupid trend?

No. there are still a lot of good doughnuts out there. Maybe it is some vegan doughnut. It is Oregon.

We even have made gluten free doughnuts. There are not bad. But a bakery makes them better. My kid needs them.

[mlyonsd]

Casey's makes decent donuts. Their cake donuts are pretty good. Chocolate or maple icing with peanuts is the bomb.

[BWillie]

I wish it was Groundhogs day and I lived the same day over and over without consequences. Id eat 29 donuts a day, Joes KC fries, 20 red bulls and a 24 oz porterhouse on the daily.

[scho63]

Vast difference between a cake donut and fried donut.

What do you EXPECT the donut to taste and feel like when you eat it?

[displacedinMN]

Vast difference between a cake donut and fried donut.

What do you EXPECT the donut to taste and feel like when you eat it?

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[sd4chiefs]

Sidecar donuts are amazing but they are a little overpriced.

$4.50 for 1 bacon donut. :doh!:

https://www.sidecardoughnuts.com/del-mar/

[Shiver Me Timbers]

Vast difference between a cake donut and fried donut....

Cake Donuts are fried as well.

[CarlosCarson27]

As a treat when we were kids sometimes mom would take a tube of Pillsbury biscuits and use an aspirin bottle lid to press out donut holes in them. Then she'd fire up some oil on the stove and fry the donuts and holes. When they came out and cooled a minute she'd throw them in a brown paper lunch bag that had either sugar or cinnamon sugar and shake them until covered.

Excellent.


Nice

[CarlosCarson27]

Sidecar donuts are amazing but they are a little overpriced.

$4.50 for 1 bacon donut. :doh!:

https://www.sidecardoughnuts.com/del-mar/

Robbery

[CarlosCarson27]

Vast difference between a cake donut and fried donut.

What do you EXPECT the donut to taste and feel like when you eat it?

French donuts aren't cake donuts and they were still made softer than the ones I get now, here

[Pepe Silvia]

Cake donuts and French cruellers are my fav.

[CarlosCarson27]

Cake donuts and French cruellers are my fav.

I didnt know the crueller part. I just called them French

[Chiefshrink]

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[Bob Dole]

Texarkana has about 40 donut shops, most of them appear to be Asian owned. Haven’t found a bad one yet.

And fuck donuts. Kolaches FTW.

[Buehler445]

You motherfuckers.

This thread got me a hankerin for donuts so I told the wife about it and she got all wound up and did the cheap easy fried biscuit business.

We didn’t even do that great of a job but they hit the spot and now I’m miserable. I needed that like a fucking hole in the head.

I blame you CC. :D
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[mlyonsd]

You mother****ers.

This thread got me a hankerin for donuts so I told the wife about it and she got all wound up and did the cheap easy fried biscuit business.

We didn’t even do that great of a job but they hit the spot and now I’m miserable. I needed that like a ****ing hole in the head.

I blame you CC. :D
https://i.imgur.com/kixzk9R.jpg:LOL:

[ptlyon]

You're welcome