Jaguars release Fournette

[Sassy Squatch]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jaguars</a> are releasing RB Leonard Fournette, source says.</p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1300407514660564992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Sassy Squatch]

Would be an interesting pickup if it's cheap.

[Sassy Squatch]

Holy shit LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Leonard Fournette was the first RB taken in 2017. <br><br>These RBs all went after. <br><br>8: Christian McCaffrey<br>41: Dalvin Cook <br>48: Joe Mixon <br>67: Alvin Kamara<br>86: Kareem Hunt<br>105: James Conner <br>119: Tarik Cohen<br>143: Marlon Mack <br>182: Aaron Jones <br>249: Chris Carson<br>Undrafted: Ekeler</p>&mdash; NFL Update (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1300410786637139968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[InChiefsHeaven]

I thought he was good...what happened?

[Sassy Squatch]

I thought he was good...what happened?
Injuries and attitude. He was a perfectly serviceable 1000 yard rusher last year though.

[ChiliConCarnage]

I thought he was good...what happened?

The Jags appear to be firebombing their roster. I think Fournette had been unhappy but dang

[TribalElder]

jags should out tank the patriots for the clemson qb

[Frazod]

First in :D

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ActiveCoarseHyrax-size_restricted.gif

[Deberg_1990]

Picked before McCaffrey, Mahomes, Watson, etc......

Kill yourselves Jags fans...

[Buehler445]

ROFL.

Just horrible ass pick. Was then. Definitely is now.

[UChieffyBugger]

He was excellent last year for a very poor Jags team. If we could get him on a cheap deal I'd be all over that...him and CEH together would be unreal tbh...plus they know each other from LSU I'd guess.

[htismaqe]

Leonard Fournette is not coming here. :doh!:

[Red Dawg]

Wasted pick. RBs are a dime a dozen. Never take in high in the first.

[RealSNR]

He was excellent last year for a very poor Jags team. If we could get him on a cheap deal I'd be all over that...him and CEH together would be unreal tbh...plus they know each other from LSU I'd guess.

Earlier this offseason you were suggesting we should TRADE for him. Now we should get him if he's on a cheap deal?

Just admit it. Some guys have single good seasons because they get the rock a million times. After that point, they suck. Peyton Hillis ring a bell?

Fournette sucks. He's a loser. And he doesn't belong here.

[Red Dawg]

Leonard Fournette is not coming here. :doh!:

Of course not. Why would we want him and he wants money he doesn't deserve.

[Mecca]

He's not awesome but he would have value in a tandem type role, the issue is he seems to think he's the greatest RB ever.

[Mecca]

Of course not. Why would we want him and he wants money he doesn't deserve.

No one, especially a RB is going to get paid right now.

[htismaqe]

Earlier this offseason you were suggesting we should TRADE for him. Now we should get him if he's on a cheap deal?

Just admit it. Some guys have single good seasons because they get the rock a million times. After that point, they suck. Peyton Hillis ring a bell?

Fournette sucks. He's a loser. And he doesn't belong here.

:bravo:

[htismaqe]

No one, especially a RB is going to get paid right now.

That's not going to stop him from wanting to get paid. He thinks he's great. Reality hasn't hit him yet.

[Sassy Squatch]

Earlier this offseason you were suggesting we should TRADE for him. Now we should get him if he's on a cheap deal?

Just admit it. Some guys have single good seasons because they get the rock a million times. After that point, they suck. Peyton Hillis ring a bell?

Fournette sucks. He's a loser. And he doesn't belong here.
But he's had 2 relatively good seasons and 1 shortened by injury. Not a bad option out of the backfield either.

[Bewbies]

He should go to Nashville and and mash with Henry. LMAO

[UChieffyBugger]

Earlier this offseason you were suggesting we should TRADE for him. Now we should get him if he's on a cheap deal?

Just admit it. Some guys have single good seasons because they get the rock a million times. After that point, they suck. Peyton Hillis ring a bell?

Fournette sucks. He's a loser. And he doesn't belong here.

Er two out of his three seasons he's been very good despite facing boxes packed to the nines...the other year he was injured..so stop spouting bs and get educated please. His physical game plus break away speed would be GREAT in this offense..plus the guy can catch the ball too as seen by his reception numbers last year.

[RunKC]

Goddamn

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From 2012-2017, the Jaguars made SIX straight picks in the top 5: WR Justin Blackmon, OT Luke Joeckel, QB Blake Bortles, DE Dante Fowler, Jr., CB Jalen Ramsey and then RB Leonard Fournette. <br><br>None of them last more than 5 seasons with the team. Major whiffs.</p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1300411617625202690?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mecca]

From 2012-2017, the Jaguars made SIX straight picks in the top 5: WR Justin Blackmon, OT Luke Joeckel, QB Blake Bortles, DE Dante Fowler, Jr., CB Jalen Ramsey and then RB Leonard Fournette. None of them last more than 5 seasons with the team. Major whiffs.

[wazu]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Imagine having<br><br>• top-10 picks 7 straight yrs<br>• top-5 picks 6 straight yrs<br><br>and doing this:<br><br>#10 Blaine Gabbert - TRADED<br>#5 Justin Blackmon<br>#2 Luke Joeckel<br>#3 Blake Bortles - CUT<br>#3 Dante Fowler - TRADED<br>#5 Jalen Ramsey - TRADED<br>#4 Leonard Fournette - CUT</p>&mdash; Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1300420503358840832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2020</a></blockquote>
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[RealSNR]

But he's had 2 relatively good seasons and 1 shortened by injury. Not a bad option out of the backfield either.


I have yet to see anything that suggests he’s more than a volume carry RB. And that’s not what we need in this offense. It’s why we didn’t care about keeping Carlos Hyde around.

Would he be not only willing but happy to play second fiddle to a rookie and quite possibly his shittier teammate at LSU (Williams)? And do so for a severely reduced salary?

Probably not. He’s not a good fit here.

[htismaqe]

But he's had 2 relatively good seasons and 1 shortened by injury. Not a bad option out of the backfield either.

He thinks he's the best RB in the league. The guy is delusional. Let him go somewhere else and pout.

[Mecca]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Jags picked in the Top 10 nine times in the 2010s. On Aug. 31, 2020, just one of those nine players is on their roster. <a href="https://t.co/8NIQvsRfYg">pic.twitter.com/8NIQvsRfYg</a></p>&mdash; Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1300410293890285569?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Tanking only works if you aren't stupid.

[htismaqe]

I have yet to see anything that suggests he’s more than a volume carry RB. And that’s not what we need in this offense. It’s why we didn’t care about keeping Carlos Hyde around.

Would he be not only willing but happy to play second fiddle to a rookie and quite possibly his shittier teammate at LSU (Williams)? And do so for a severely reduced salary?

Probably not. He’s not a good fit here.

Exactly.

[Sassy Squatch]

He thinks he's the best RB in the league. The guy is delusional. Let him go somewhere else and pout.
I don't give a shit about his attitude in Jacksonville. Every single player with even a modicum of talent desperately wanted out of there because of Coughlin.

[tyton75]

feels like a Raider pickup

[The Franchise]

Watch him sign with the Jets because Gase is a moron.

[UChieffyBugger]

I have yet to see anything that suggests he’s more than a volume carry RB. And that’s not what we need in this offense. It’s why we didn’t care about keeping Carlos Hyde around.

Would he be not only willing but happy to play second fiddle to a rookie and quite possibly his shittier teammate at LSU (Williams)? And do so for a severely reduced salary?

Probably not. He’s not a good fit here.

Play second fiddle to CEH and Williams? BWAHAHAHAHA ROFL

[htismaqe]

I don't give a shit about his attitude in Jacksonville. Every single player with even a modicum of talent desperately wanted out of there because of Coughlin.

It isn't his attitude in Jacksonville, it's his attitude in general.

The guy wants to be a feature back and wants to be paid like one.

He's not going to take a 1-year prove it deal to be CEH's backup.

[The Franchise]

Play second fiddle to CEH and Williams? BWAHAHAHAHA ROFL

It’s laughable that you want the Chiefs to sign him to start over CEH.

[Sassy Squatch]

It isn't his attitude in Jacksonville, it's his attitude in general.

The guy wants to be a feature back and wants to be paid like one.

He's not going to take a 1-year prove it deal to be CEH's backup.
Too bad for him, because he's not getting that money anywhere. That's why he might not be opposed to coming into the best offense in the league as a reclamation project.

[htismaqe]

Too bad for him, because he's not getting that money anywhere. That's why he might not be opposed to coming into the best offense in the league as a reclamation project.

That's just the thing - he doesn't view himself as a reclamation project. He'd probably be insulted to hear such a thing.

It's not just about the money. He doesn't want to share carries, he doesn't want to be a backup. He's said that he feels he's the best RB in the league.

Again, he's delusional. So unless this is his come-to-Jesus moment or they've finally gotten his dosage right, he's not going to come to a place like KC where he can't be the focal point of the offense.

[Deberg_1990]

Wasted pick. RBs are a dime a dozen. Never take in high in the first.

Not really a blanket statement. Just depends on the year and who’s available. Eziekel Elliott was a good pick.

[Mecca]

Fournette needs a wakeup call basically, if this is it he can be a productive player.

[Sassy Squatch]

That's just the thing - he doesn't view himself as a reclamation project. He'd probably be insulted to hear such a thing.

It's not just about the money. He doesn't want to share carries, he doesn't want to be a backup. He's said that he feels he's the best RB in the league.

Again, he's delusional. So unless this is his come-to-Jesus moment or they've finally gotten his dosage right, he's not going to come to a place like KC where he can't be the focal point of the offense.
He'll have a wake up call real quick and he can reevaluate his opinion then.

[Eleazar]

People act like he's Emmitt Smith or something. The guy has ~2,500 career rushing yards

[Direckshun]

People act like he's Emmitt Smith or something. The guy has ~2,500 career rushing yards

He's also going to Tweet his approval or disapproval at everything your team does, and he's oft-injured in ways that do not get better with time.

He's a good back for 18 carries a game for 12 or so weeks a season, and he'll get you a few 100 yard performances. He's talented.

He's not the back he thinks he is, however.

[htismaqe]

He'll have a wake up call real quick and he can reevaluate his opinion then.

I get what you're saying but just becoming a free agent doesn't really mean anything. Just ask Devonta Freeman.

[Mecca]

I get what you're saying but just becoming a free agent doesn't really mean anything. Just ask Devonta Freeman.

Freeman thinks because it's probably his last contract that he isn't going to play for chump change.

[Mecca]

Team that makes the most sense is Seattle, their RB room is marginal, Pete Carroll loves dudes that were 5 star recruits and on top of that he thinks he can reach problem players and get them to perform.

That to me is his most likely spot.

[htismaqe]

Freeman thinks because it's probably his last contract that he isn't going to play for chump change.

These guys simply don't understand their value in the current NFL. Freeman is overplaying his hand, of course.

The question is whether or not Fournette will do the same. If he can get past it, then sure, he might be worth signing. The problem is that to date, the only evidence we have from Fournette is that he doesn't see the writing on the wall.

[tredadda]

feels like a Raider pickup

Surprised Houston didn’t trade JJ Watt and a second rounder for him. Sounds like something BoB would do.

[Gravedigger]

There will be a clean sweep after this year, Marrone, GM, everyone will be gone. Jags are a dumpster fire and it's no surprise what they're doing.

[Red Dawg]

Not really a blanket statement. Just depends on the year and who’s available. Eziekel Elliott was a good pick.

Nope. He's way overpaid. No RB is worth a top 20 pick.

[Mecca]

Nope. He's way overpaid. No RB is worth a top 20 pick.

Arizona would have a SB title had they taken Adrian Peterson instead of Levi Brown so that isn't 100% true.

[Eleazar]

Arizona would have a SB title had they taken Adrian Peterson instead of Levi Brown so that isn't 100% true.

How many did he bring to Minnesota?

[Mecca]

How many did he bring to Minnesota?

Different situation, that Warner team wins that bowl with Peterson.

[Redbled]

76 receptions. We don’t need him but if Veach can get him on a one year cheap deal to be a backup and keep his mouth shut I don’t see the downside. That said it won’t happen.

[Hoover]

He went in the 3rd round of my fantasy draft last night.... LOL

[RealSNR]

Play second fiddle to CEH and Williams? BWAHAHAHAHA ROFL

Even if Veach and Andy both thought Fournette was amazing, you really think they're going to change horses midstream just like that?

Clyde is the starter. If we sign Fournette, he'll remain the starter.

[RealSNR]

Not really a blanket statement. Just depends on the year and who’s available. Eziekel Elliott was a good pick.

Saquon is a pretty good RB.

Worth the 2nd overall pick? Hell no.

[htismaqe]

Not really a blanket statement. Just depends on the year and who’s available. Eziekel Elliott was a good pick.

Really?

They took Zeke and then tried to build a team around him. How exactly has that worked for them?

[The Franchise]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jaguars did all they could to trade RB Leonard Fournette in the spring and then again this summer. But as Jaguars’ HC Doug Marrone said today: &quot;We couldn&#39;t get anything, a fifth, a sixth, anything. We couldn&#39;t get anything.&quot;</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1300423636403322883?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[O.city]

Really?

They took Zeke and then tried to build a team around him. How exactly has that worked for them?

Zeke and whoever they took in the 2nd

Or Ramsey and Derrick Henry

Seems easy to me. Don’t take rbs early. Ever.

[htismaqe]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jaguars did all they could to trade RB Leonard Fournette in the spring and then again this summer. But as Jaguars’ HC Doug Marrone said today: &quot;We couldn&#39;t get anything, a fifth, a sixth, anything. We couldn&#39;t get anything.&quot;</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1300423636403322883?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's got to be a bitter pill for Fournette to swallow. I wonder if he actually believes it or if he just brushes it off as sour grapes.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jaguars did all they could to trade RB Leonard Fournette in the spring and then again this summer. But as Jaguars’ HC Doug Marrone said today: &quot;We couldn&#39;t get anything, a fifth, a sixth, anything. We couldn&#39;t get anything.&quot;</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1300423636403322883?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LMAO UChieffyBugger actually wanted us to trade for this turd. Lulz.

[Simply Red]

GET IT DONE CROWL!
GET IT DONE JESUS!

[lcarus]

Blake Bortles has a higher career passer rating than John Elway.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

A few folks have mentioned this on another thread but I thought it deserved a thread of it's own as media sources, both national and Chiefs associated, have linked the Chiefs to Fournette HERE (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/04/19/chiefs-should-consider-making-a-run-at-leonard-fournette/) and HERE (https://arrowheadaddict.com/2020/04/19/leonard-fournette-trade-makes-sense-kansas-city-chiefs-positive/)

Now, Fournette was obviously a first round pick with tons of hype and potential when he came out and there can be no denying he was sensational in his rookie season HERE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLc37GsSziA) where his 1000 yards rushing, 300 yards receiving and 10 TD's helped to guide the Jags to the playoffs where he again showed his class by getting four TD's and 242 yards in the games he played.

The next season as we know Blake Bortals got exposed and the Jags were a mess. He missed half the season due to a ****ling leg injury but still managed to get 400 rushing yards, 185 receiving and six total TD's.

Then came last year HERE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGKXO9vWrtc) and my lord he looked devastating. Yet again he got 1000 yards but this time he notched FIVE HUNDRED receiving yards as well. Way more receiving yards than Damian Williams had last year and more than what Kareem Hunt had in his rookie season.

I think we could probably get him for a modest pick tbh because I think the Jags are gonna try to tank for Lawrence...so probably a 4th rounder for next years draft could do it? Who knows...but a 25 year old talent like this doesn't fall into your lap very often. He'd cost us 4m for this season and then we'd have that fifth year option too. IF he's sensational in those two years then we tag him for another. Three years of Fournette without having to pay major bucks sounds tempting to me as I think he would cause absolute mayhem facing those empty boxes.

LMAO LMAO LMAO

[FloridaMan88]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jaguars did all they could to trade RB Leonard Fournette in the spring and then again this summer. But as Jaguars’ HC Doug Marrone said today: &quot;We couldn&#39;t get anything, a fifth, a sixth, anything. We couldn&#39;t get anything.&quot;</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1300423636403322883?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

A broke dick RB with a bad attitude has no trade value, shocking.

[DJ's left nut]

But he's had 2 relatively good seasons and 1 shortened by injury. Not a bad option out of the backfield either.

Someone did a really good review on Fournette back when he was having a decent season.

His team was actually significant worse when he was on the field (I think vs. Yeldon) because his presence telegraphed their tendencies. He's terrible out of the backfield and an indifferent blocker. So when he was out there, the Jags were overwhelmingly likely to run the football.

Fournette's problem isn't necessarily as a runner - he's...okay in that regard. Not elite but probably about league average. But ultimately he's such a liability elsewhere that his teams running game, even if he's a solid runner, is below average with him in the lineup because teams know its coming.

I don't know how you work around a guy who's a problem in the passing game in today's NFL.

The guy's a relic with a poor attitude. Not sure there's a good fit for him anywhere these days.

[The Franchise]

Someone did a really good review on Fournette back when he was having a decent season.

His team was actually significant worse when he was on the field (I think vs. Yeldon) because his presence telegraphed their tendencies. He's terrible out of the backfield and an indifferent blocker. So when he was out there, the Jags were overwhelmingly likely to run the football.

Fournette's problem isn't necessarily as a runner - he's...okay in that regard. Not elite but probably about league average. But ultimately he's such a liability elsewhere that his teams running game, even if he's a solid runner, is below average with him in the lineup because teams know its coming.

I don't know how you work around a guy who's a problem in the passing game in today's NFL.

The guy's a relic with a poor attitude. Not sure there's a good fit for him anywhere these days.

Seattle. Pete Carroll loves to run the ball and not give his QB an opportunity to succeed.

[wazu]

This really is a crazy move. The Jags do not have depth at RB. All this does is save them $4 million that I doubt they'll even bother spending elsewhere. Fournette may not be worth a 4th overall pick, but he played on a bad team last year and put up 4.3 yards per carry along with 76 receptions. If he clears waivers I'd much rather see him getting work with the Chiefs than Darrel Williams.

[wazu]

Someone did a really good review on Fournette back when he was having a decent season.

His team was actually significant worse when he was on the field (I think vs. Yeldon) because his presence telegraphed their tendencies. He's terrible out of the backfield and an indifferent blocker. So when he was out there, the Jags were overwhelmingly likely to run the football.

Fournette's problem isn't necessarily as a runner - he's...okay in that regard. Not elite but probably about league average. But ultimately he's such a liability elsewhere that his teams running game, even if he's a solid runner, is below average with him in the lineup because teams know its coming.

I don't know how you work around a guy who's a problem in the passing game in today's NFL.

The guy's a relic with a poor attitude. Not sure there's a good fit for him anywhere these days.

So are you saying it's about blitz pick-ups? Cause he was targeted 100 times last year in the passing game.

[FloridaMan88]

Tom Coughlin extended Bortles and drafted Fournette over Mahomes.

Solid job, Tom.

[Sassy Squatch]

So are you saying it's about blitz pick-ups? Cause he was targeted 100 times last year in the passing game.
76 receptions for 522 yards. I wouldn't make him a focal point but it seems he's at least competent.

[DaneMcCloud]

Jacksonville has been such a dumpster fire this decade, not only in the Win-Loss column but with their front office, coaching staff and a directionless owner who clearly has eyes on London but panders to the people of Jacksonville, that it's absolutely impossible for an outsider to know how it was really like to work in that organization.

They continually draft great defensive players, only to lose them to trade demands and outright refusals to play for the team. Offensively, they've stunk forever and made really bad personnel decisions, from Blake Bortles to signing Foles, only to trade him and so on.

There are enough LSU guys on the Chiefs to know whether or not Fournette's a bad lockerroom guy so if the Chiefs do happen to sign him, I'm sure they won't have any problems with him. The Chiefs don't have a big, bruising guy that's also a fairly efficient receiver out of the backfield, so he'd be a welcome addition at Vet Minimum for a team that's trying to repeat.

I don't see any downside at Vet Minimum. He'd be a reclamation project (which is nothing new for Andy) and the Chiefs would likely receive a Comp Pick.

[KChiefs1]

Coulda had Mahomes.

[Jewish Rabbi]

LMAO UChieffyBugger actually wanted us to trade for this turd. Lulz.

What a FUCKING MORON lmao

[htismaqe]

Jacksonville has been such a dumpster fire this decade, not only in the Win-Loss column but with their front office, coaching staff and a directionless owner who clearly has eyes on London but panders to the people of Jacksonville, that it's absolutely impossible for an outsider to know how it was really like to work in that organization.

They continually draft great defensive players, only to lose them to trade demands and outright refusals to play for the team. Offensively, they've stunk forever and made really bad personnel decisions, from Blake Bortles to signing Foles, only to trade him and so on.

There are enough LSU guys on the Chiefs to know whether or not Fournette's a bad lockerroom guy so if the Chiefs do happen to sign him, I'm sure they won't have any problems with him. The Chiefs don't have a big, bruising guy that's also a fairly efficient receiver out of the backfield, so he'd be a welcome addition at Vet Minimum for a team that's trying to repeat.

I don't see any downside at Vet Minimum. He'd be a reclamation project (which is nothing new for Andy) and the Chiefs would likely receive a Comp Pick.

All of those things are true.

However, the questions still remain: Will Fournette accept the vet minimum? Will accept being a "reclamation project"? Will he accept being a complimentary player?

So far, the evidence suggests that the answer to all of those questions is "no". We really don't have anything else to go on at this point.

[NWTF]

A broke dick RB with a bad attitude has no trade value, shocking.

I read I think on PFT they tried hard leading up to and during the draft to trade him for only a mid rd pick. Sense the draft they were taking anything.
Hes seems to still be productive, but a malcontent as well which would explain the no interest

He might be worth a gamble to a bottom feeder thats expected to suck, but Id doubt a team in the Chiefs position would bring him in.

[DaneMcCloud]

We really don't have anything else to go on at this point.

Right. We as fans don't have any "inside info" but the Chiefs certainly do, especially given that two of their running backs played with Fournette at LSU, Mathieu is still plugged in there and so on.

So, if the Chiefs do happen to sign him, I wouldn't expect any issues moving forward. And if Fournette can't fit in KC, he likely won't fit anywhere in the NFL, outside of maybe Seattle.

[wazu]

All of those things are true.

However, the questions still remain: Will Fournette accept the vet minimum? Will accept being a "reclamation project"? Will he accept being a complimentary player?

So far, the evidence suggests that the answer to all of those questions is "no". We really don't have anything else to go on at this point.

I think he'll accept whatever he has to accept to get on the field this year. He needs an opportunity where he can showcase himself. Would think a one year deal with incentives.

[htismaqe]

Right. We as fans don't have any "inside info" but the Chiefs certainly do, especially given that two of their running backs played with Fournette at LSU, Mathieu is still plugged in there and so on.

So, if the Chiefs do happen to sign him, I wouldn't expect any issues moving forward. And if Fournette can't fit in KC, he likely won't fit anywhere in the NFL, outside of maybe Seattle.

Oh I agree. If the Chiefs bring him in, then the obvious answer to my 3 questions is "yes".

I just don't see any situation where the Chiefs bring him in. I just don't.

[Sassy Squatch]

Forgot he has to clear waivers

[htismaqe]

I think he'll accept whatever he has to accept to get on the field this year. He needs an opportunity where he can showcase himself. Would think a one year deal with incentives.

He won't be able to showcase himself tucked into a WCO with CEH sitting in front of him. That's exactly what I'm talking about.

The guy wants to be a RB1. Heck, he NEEDS to be a RB1 if wants to get a bigger contract and starting job somewhere else next year.

[wazu]

He won't be able to showcase himself tucked into a WCO with CEH sitting in front of him. That's exactly what I'm talking about.

The guy wants to be a RB1. Heck, he NEEDS to be a RB1 if wants to get a bigger contract and starting job somewhere else next year.

Those jobs are tough to come by in September. I guess he could go to the Dolphins and see how he fares in Chan Gailey's offense. I think he could get enough work in Reid's system to showcase his skillset. God forbid anything happens to Clyde he'd absolutely be #1 in the best offense in the league.

[htismaqe]

Those jobs are tough to come by in September. I guess he could go to the Dolphins and see how he fares in Chan Gailey's offense. I think he could get enough work in Reid's system to showcase his skillset. God forbid anything happens to Clyde he'd absolutely be #1 in the best offense in the league.

You and I are rational about these things.

To date, Leonard Fournette has not shown he can think rationally about his role or worth on an NFL team.

That's the problem.

[WhiteWhale]

I said he was over rated and injury prone. I said cook and mccaffery were better. I said kareem Hunt would be a better nfl player.

I thought it was insane to take him top 5. Dude reeked of trent Richardson over hype, and it wasnt different. People here thought the colts 'robbed' the browns.

Bad vision and no burst. Doesnt make the first guy miss. He just played on a crazy talented team in college. Hes a sub 4ypc running back. That's terrible in an nfl that plays 5 or more dbs on most snaps.

Elite athlete, but I never saw an elite nfl running back. He isnt that good.

[MahiMike]

Ngakoue gone too. They are full on with "Levor for Trevor".

Problem is the same stupid GM will be doing the draft next year. I really thought Shad Khan would be a good owner. Appears he just wants a profit.

[htismaqe]

Ngakoue gone too. They are full on with "Levor for Trevor".

Problem is the same stupid GM will be doing the draft next year. I really thought Shad Khan would be a good owner. Appears he just wants a profit.

Just wait until they don't get Lawrence and try to build around Moustache.

[wazu]

Ngakoue gone too. They are full on with "Levor for Trevor".

Problem is the same stupid GM will be doing the draft next year. I really thought Shad Khan would be a good owner. Appears he just wants a profit.

I can definitely get behind this strategy, but kinda weird to hear Marrone talking about how he tried everything to trade Fournette. Don't usually think of head coaches as wanting to tank.

[WhiteWhale]

I can definitely get behind this strategy, but kinda weird to hear Marrone talking about how he tried everything to trade Fournette. Don't usually think of head coaches as wanting to tank.

The amazing thing is you think losing fournette is 'tanking'

Hes not very good, and nowhere near as good as he thinks he is. KC drafted a much better player in the 3rd round. 2 vastly superior rbs went in the first round after him.

This is Trent Richardson all over. A sub 4 ypc back who is overrated due to college production. Only this time nobody was stupid enough to trade a 1st rounder for him.

[DJ's left nut]

So are you saying it's about blitz pick-ups? Cause he was targeted 100 times last year in the passing game.

It wasn't about volume - it was about efficiency within the volume.

The Jags offensive efficiency declined because even when they DID utilize him in the passing game, it was to limited effect.

He wasn't a guy who teams gave a shit about as a passing option so they ignored him. And when they did, he rarely made it hurt.

He just wasn't helping his offense work better when he was on the field.

[RealSNR]

The amazing thing is you think losing fournette is 'tanking'

Hes not very good, and nowhere near as good as he thinks he is. KC drafted a much better player in the 3rd round. 2 vastly superior rbs went in the first round after him.

This is Trent Richardson all over. A sub 4 ypc back who is overrated due to college production. Only this time nobody was stupid enough to trade a 1st rounder for him.

Heh. That was funny when that happened. Browns eff up but somehow manage to cut their losses thanks to the Ryan Grigson Colts.

Man, is it any wonder Andrew Luck didn't survive 8 seasons in the NFL?

[DJ's left nut]

76 receptions for 522 yards. I wouldn't make him a focal point but it seems he's at least competent.

Opportunity cost.

If a guy isn't getting attention and as a consequence is getting largely unproductive yardage, he's not helping the overall productivity of the offense.

Here's a more specific way to look at it:

Receiving Efficiency

Fournette’s production was a similar story in the passing game. He had good production from a cumulative perspective - he ranked fifth in receptions and receiving yards among all running backs - but his production from an efficiency perspective was not good.


Among 48 running backs with at least 25 targets, Fournette ranked no better than 26th in yards per reception, yards per route, yards after catch per reception, passer rating when targeted, receiving DYAR and PFF receiving grade. As shown by the chart below, he also ranked below average in EPA per play and success rate on passing plays.

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Fournette’s EPA per target was -0.19, meaning again that his involvement worsened Jacksonville’s chances to score on average. Jacksonville’s offense generated a negative EPA per play as a whole last season, so Fournette wasn’t necessarily dragging the team down, but he clearly didn’t help either.

And as a runner he was only marginally better; largely break even.

Bottom line is that he's an inefficient player. He can handle a load but if he's handling it, the offense is probably spinning its wheels.

[tk13]

I just don't think he's a real great fit for our offense even aside from him possibly getting upset when he gets 6 carries a game.

[wazu]

The amazing thing is you think losing fournette is 'tanking'

Hes not very good, and nowhere near as good as he thinks he is. KC drafted a much better player in the 3rd round. 2 vastly superior rbs went in the first round after him.

This is Trent Richardson all over. A sub 4 ypc back who is overrated due to college production. Only this time nobody was stupid enough to trade a 1st rounder for him.

I was responding to Mahi Mike saying they're in tank mode. Cutting your starting RB days before the start of the season would seem to support this. My counter point is that Marrone seems to be owning this very publicly, and I don't believe he has any incentive to "tank", as it just means he'll be fired.

[Mecca]

I just don't think he's a real great fit for our offense even aside from him possibly getting upset when he gets 6 carries a game.

He's not, he'd basically have to play Darrell Williams role.

[Mecca]

I was responding to Mahi Mike saying they're in tank mode. Cutting your starting RB days before the start of the season would seem to support this. My counter point is that Marrone seems to be owning this very publicly, and I don't believe he has any incentive to "tank", as it just means he'll be fired.

It's always nice to blow something up for the guy taking your job in a year.

[Red Dawg]

Do not need.

[Chief Roundup]

Are the Jags even going to make the spending floor? If not what is the fine?

[Mecca]

Are the Jags even going to make the spending floor? If not what is the fine?

Yea they have cap hits for moving all those guys...

[DJ's left nut]

Yea they have cap hits for moving all those guys...

The spending floor is about cash spending, not cap hits.

You cut a guy with a big dead money cap hit from an accelerated bonus, it clogs up your cap but your cash spending actually goes DOWN because that money was spent years ago.

I'm sure there's an interplay between the two, but when considering the floors, the metric had been cash spending rather than cap space.

[DaneMcCloud]

Yea they have cap hits for moving all those guys...

Holy shit, they have $44 million in Dead Money, including Fournette, and still have $34 million in cap space.

Their next GM and coach will have every opportunity to build a winner but if they don't, it'll all be on Shad Khan.

[htismaqe]

I was responding to Mahi Mike saying they're in tank mode. Cutting your starting RB days before the start of the season would seem to support this. My counter point is that Marrone seems to be owning this very publicly, and I don't believe he has any incentive to "tank", as it just means he'll be fired.

Exactly. Both Marrone and GM Dave Caldwell are on notice. Seems highly unlikely they'd deliberately tank since it would almost certainly mean they would both be fired.

[Mecca]

They're totally going for Lawrence it's the only thing that makes sense.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Opportunity cost.

If a guy isn't getting attention and as a consequence is getting largely unproductive yardage, he's not helping the overall productivity of the offense.

Here's a more specific way to look at it:



And as a runner he was only marginally better; largely break even.

Bottom line is that he's an inefficient player. He can handle a load but if he's handling it, the offense is probably spinning its wheels.I see you, Shady.

[Chief Roundup]

Yea they have cap hits for moving all those guys...Those cap hits should not be the same as spending though. I thought that there was both a cap minimum and a spending minimum that teams had to meet. By cutting these players they are getting rid of their base salaries.

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[UChieffyBugger]

That's just the thing - he doesn't view himself as a reclamation project. He'd probably be insulted to hear such a thing.

It's not just about the money. He doesn't want to share carries, he doesn't want to be a backup. He's said that he feels he's the best RB in the league.

Again, he's delusional. So unless this is his come-to-Jesus moment or they've finally gotten his dosage right, he's not going to come to a place like KC where he can't be the focal point of the offense.

Wow guys it looks like we've got Leonard's mum/agent on the forum who knows EXACTLY what he's thinking...HELLO MRS FOURNETTE!! :D

[htismaqe]

They're totally going for Lawrence it's the only thing that makes sense.

Except it really doesn't make sense. They retained Marrone and Caldwell only to start over right away?

Of course, Jacksonville is a clown show. Nothing they've done the last few years makes a whole lot of sense.

[Mecca]

Those cap hits should not be the same as spending though. I thought that there was both a cap minimum and a spending minimum that teams had to meet. By cutting these players they are getting rid of their base salaries.

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They could do some contract workarounds by accelerating money or giving someone a new deal.

[htismaqe]

Wow guys it looks like we've got Leonard's mum/agent on the forum who knows EXACTLY what he's thinking...HELLO MRS FOURNETTE!! :D

ROFL

You're the one that wanted to trade for him. If I'm his mother, you must be Leonard Fournette himself.

No wonder everybody here thinks you're a joke.

[Mecca]

Except it really doesn't make sense. They retained Marrone and Caldwell only to start over right away?

Of course, Jacksonville is a clown show. Nothing they've done the last few years makes a whole lot of sense.

There's no way they retain those guys all I can think is they're of the belief if they can somehow start over and show progress they'll be kept, odds of it happening are like none.

[suzzer99]

Let's just populate our team with Mahomes and 53 broke-dick malcontent castoff 1st-round draft picks or former pro-bowlers long past their prime. Seems like a good plan.

[RealSNR]

Wow guys it looks like we've got Leonard's mum/agent on the forum who knows EXACTLY what he's thinking...HELLO MRS FOURNETTE!! :D

Are you sure you're not his mom? You seem to really really love this guy.

Being a top 5 pick to straight-up cut from the team before his rookie contract expired without a single trade offer from another team, Leonard Fournette has a career only a mother could love.

[htismaqe]

There's no way they retain those guys all I can think is they're of the belief if they can somehow start over and show progress they'll be kept, odds of it happening are like none.

The logical course of action was to can Coughlin, Marrone, and Caldwell all at the same time.

Then the new regime would have a legit shot at having excuse for tanking.

It absolutely does appear, at face value, that the Jags are tanking. But that would almost certainly mean Marrone and Caldwell will essentially be getting themselves fired.

Why would they agree to stay on only to be fired a year later? That's the part that doesn't make sense to me. They're essentially digging their own grave by tanking this season. Unless Khan has compensated them somehow for being the scapegoats?

[Mecca]

The logical course of action was to can Coughlin, Marrone, and Caldwell all at the same time.

Then the new regime would have a legit shot at having excuse for tanking.

It absolutely does appear, at face value, that the Jags are tanking. But that would almost certainly mean Marrone and Caldwell will essentially be getting themselves fired.

Why would they agree to stay on only to be fired a year later? That's the part that doesn't make sense to me. They're essentially digging their own grave by tanking this season. Unless Khan has compensated them somehow for being the scapegoats?

Who knows they're part of the Belichick tree so they probably think they can win a SB with garbage can players.

[UChieffyBugger]

Someone did a really good review on Fournette back when he was having a decent season.

His team was actually significant worse when he was on the field (I think vs. Yeldon) because his presence telegraphed their tendencies. He's terrible out of the backfield and an indifferent blocker. So when he was out there, the Jags were overwhelmingly likely to run the football.

Fournette's problem isn't necessarily as a runner - he's...okay in that regard. Not elite but probably about league average. But ultimately he's such a liability elsewhere that his teams running game, even if he's a solid runner, is below average with him in the lineup because teams know its coming.

I don't know how you work around a guy who's a problem in the passing game in today's NFL.

The guy's a relic with a poor attitude. Not sure there's a good fit for him anywhere these days.


And as for this post..smh utter bs and his stats prove it.

[DaneMcCloud]

Fournette had 1,152 yards rushing and another 522 yard receiving in 15 games during the 2019 season on a team that sucked ass.

This notion that Fournette somehow "sucks" is not based in fact.

I'm not "pining" for him. If the Chiefs sign him, I'm sure he'll be productive but there's no doubt that he'd immediately upgrade the running back room in terms of talent.

[UChieffyBugger]

Are you sure you're not his mom? You seem to really really love this guy.

Being a top 5 pick to straight-up cut from the team before his rookie contract expired without a single trade offer from another team, Leonard Fournette has a career only a mother could love.

How many trade offers did we get for Houston last offseason? NONE!!.. Does that make him a bad player?

[htismaqe]

Fournette had 1,152 yards rushing and another 522 yard receiving in 15 games during the 2019 season on a team that sucked ass.

This notion that Fournette somehhow "sucks" is not based in fact.

I'm not "pining" for him. If the Chiefs sign him, I'm sure he'll be productive but there's no doubt that he'd immediately upgrade the running back room in terms of talent.

He doesn't suck. He just thinks he's more valuable than he really is. It all comes down to him being more realistic about what his role could be, especially on a team like the Chiefs where he won't be the #1 guy, and in reality won't be the #2, #3, or even #4 guy. He'd be a role-player in KC and to date, he hasn't demonstrated he can deal with that kind of relegated role.

[Mecca]

He doesn't suck. He just thinks he's more valuable than he really is. It all comes down to him being more realistic about what his role could be, especially on a team like the Chiefs where he won't be the #1 guy, and in reality won't be the #2, #3, or even #4 guy. He'd be a role-player in KC and to date, he hasn't demonstrated he can deal with that kind of relegated role.

He'd be a more talented Darrell Williams, I doubt he's ready to accept that role.

[htismaqe]

He'd be a more talented Darrell Williams, I doubt he's ready to accept that role.

Yep, that's pretty much where I'm at.

[UChieffyBugger]

Fournette had 1,152 yards rushing and another 522 yard receiving in 15 games during the 2019 season on a team that sucked ass.

This notion that Fournette somehhow "sucks" is not based in fact.

I'm not "pining" for him. If the Chiefs sign him, I'm sure he'll be productive but there's no doubt that he'd immediately upgrade the running back room in terms of talent.


Thank you for being honest and showing some intelligence sir :thumb: ..because there's a lot of biased and dumb people on this forum who don't have a clue what they're talking about and just spout hot air all day.

[staylor26]

Fournette had 1,152 yards rushing and another 522 yard receiving in 15 games during the 2019 season on a team that sucked ass.

This notion that Fournette somehow "sucks" is not based in fact.

I'm not "pining" for him. If the Chiefs sign him, I'm sure he'll be productive but there's no doubt that he'd immediately upgrade the running back room in terms of talent.

Suck is a strong word, but he’s not very good either.

For instance, I’m not so sure that he’s all that much better than Williams our current RB2. I’d argue Williams is cheaper and a better fit (on the field and in the locker room).

[RunKC]

Surprised the Steelers didn’t pull the trigger here. He’s the type of back that they like and Conner has had injury concerns.

[DaneMcCloud]

He doesn't suck. He just thinks he's more valuable than he really is. It all comes down to him being more realistic about what his role could be, especially on a team like the Chiefs where he won't be not only the #1 guy, he won't be the #2, #3, or even #4 guy. He'd be a role-player in KC and to date, he hasn't demonstrated he can deal with that kind of relegated role.

Jacksonville has been a dumpster fire this entire decade, with many talented players asking for trades and threatening not to re-sign with them. Coughlin was overmatched, just as Marrone has been overmatched, while creating a bad atmosphere across the entire spectrum of the organization.

From all reports, Fournette was a good guy at LSU so I don't think there's any way to quantify what he will or won't do on his next team.

[RunKC]

Suck is a strong word, but he’s not very good either.

For instance, I’m not so sure that he’s all that much better than Williams our current RB2. I’d argue Williams is cheaper and a better fit (on the field and in the locker room).

Needs to go somewhere that will utilize his style of play. Seattle also seems like a good fit with their philosophy, especially with Carson coming off a bad injury and Penny being worthless.

[DaneMcCloud]

For instance, I’m not so sure that he’s all that much better than Williams our current RB2. I’d argue Williams is cheaper and a better fit (on the field and in the locker room).

And both players were at LSU at the same exact time and their productivity wasn't even close.

One went undrafted and hasn't done shit to date and the other, who was the primary running back at LSU, was selected #4 overall.

Regardless of anyone thinks about what Fournette will or won't do on his next team, there's no denying that he's far more talented than any running back on the Chiefs roster, save for yet another LSU back in CEH.

[htismaqe]

Jacksonville has been a dumpster fire this entire decade, with many talented players asking for trades and threatening not to re-sign with them. Coughlin was overmatched, just as Marrone has been overmatched, while creating a bad atmosphere across the entire spectrum of the organization.

From all reports, Fournette was a good guy at LSU so I don't think there's any way to quantify what he will or won't do on his next team.

I can't disagree with that. All we have is what has come out of his mouth and the background in which he was operating.

We don't have much evidence that he would fit in KC. On the flip side, we have a lot of background info that suggests that evidence is unique to Jacksonville.

Like I said before, if the Chiefs sign him, I'm not going to complain. They've earned my trust. I just don't see it happening.

[DaneMcCloud]

Surprised the Steelers didn’t pull the trigger here. He’s the type of back that they like and Conner has had injury concerns.

I don't think that NFL teams want to take the $6 million dollar cap hit and would rather sign him to a Vet Min contract with incentives.

[staylor26]

And both players were at LSU at the same exact time and their productivity wasn't even close.

One went undrafted and hasn't done shit to date and the other, who was the primary running back at LSU, was selected #4 overall.

Regardless of anyone thinks about what Fournette will or won't do on his next team, there's no denying that he's far more talented than any running back on the Chiefs roster, save for yet another LSU back in CEH.

I’m not saying Fournette isn’t the better player. I’m saying he’s not all that much better where I feel we should make the move and pay him. There’s a difference.

He’s definitely not a better fit though. There’s a reason Big Red loves Williams. He does all the little things that Andy loves in a backup RB.

[Mecca]

I can't disagree with that. All we have is what has come out of his mouth and the background in which he was operating.

We don't have much evidence that he would fit in KC. On the flip side, we have a lot of background info that suggests that evidence is unique to Jacksonville.

Like I said before, if the Chiefs sign him, I'm not going to complain. They've earned my trust. I just don't see it happening.

If the Chiefs moved on him it would be because of the abundance of LSU guys we have that likely know him.

[DaneMcCloud]

I’m not saying Fournette isn’t the better player. I’m saying he’s not all that much better where I feel we should make the move and pay him. There’s a difference.

He’s definitely not a better fit though. There’s a reason Big Red loves Williams. He does all the little things that Andy loves in a backup RB.

I think Williams is a JAG at best. If the Chiefs were to sign Fournette, it would be to a Vet Min one year deal, which would knock that lump of shit off the roster in Darwin Award Thompson.

[staylor26]

I think Williams is a JAG at best. If the Chiefs were to sign Fournette, it would be to a Vet Min one year deal, which would knock that lump of shit off the roster in Darwin Award Thompson.

I don’t think Fournette is going to signs vet min 1 year deal on a team where he has no chance to start, but if so? Sure.

[WhiteWhale]

I was responding to Mahi Mike saying they're in tank mode. Cutting your starting RB days before the start of the season would seem to support this. My counter point is that Marrone seems to be owning this very publicly, and I don't believe he has any incentive to "tank", as it just means he'll be fired.
KC cut their #1 WR before the 2017 season.

Because the guy behind him was better.

Plus fournette is a me-first whiner.

[DaneMcCloud]

I don’t think Fournette is going to signs vet min 1 year deal on a team where he has no chance to start, but if so? Sure.

I'll be surprised if any team offers him more than a one year Vet Min deal.

I just hope that he doesn't end up with a Super Bowl contender because chances are that he'll ball out this year, with the hope of signing a long term deal elsewhere.

[loochy]

Opportunity cost.

If a guy isn't getting attention and as a consequence is getting largely unproductive yardage, he's not helping the overall productivity of the offense.

Here's a more specific way to look at it:



And as a runner he was only marginally better; largely break even.

Bottom line is that he's an inefficient player. He can handle a load but if he's handling it, the offense is probably spinning its wheels.

Dude, Shady was pretty bad

[Mecca]

I caught Mitch Holthus on the radio basically saying he'd be a good fit here and then talking about waiver claims...sometimes I think Mitch isn't that bright.

[Skyy God]

Dude, Shady was pretty bad

Other than the gamebreaking fumbles, Shady was decent (4.6 YPC, 5 TDs).

[RealSNR]

How many trade offers did we get for Houston last offseason? NONE!!.. Does that make him a bad player?

Justin Houston was cut to free up cap space.

Leonard Fournette was cut because the Jaguars wanted him off the team.

[DJ's left nut]

Dude, Shady was pretty bad

Yes he was.

And Fournette only was marginally better.

He's a man out of time. 20 years ago, maybe even 10 years ago, he'd have been in Pro Bowl conversations most seasons.

But very few teams are running offenses that utilize his skill-set, Chiefs included.

He's an awkward fit here and a guy we'd be bringing in on the belief that he's a transcendent talent who's going to be able to contribute in a meaningful way here despite being in a system that isn't conducive to his strengths.

That's just not the case.

[tredadda]

Except it really doesn't make sense. They retained Marrone and Caldwell only to start over right away?

Of course, Jacksonville is a clown show. Nothing they've done the last few years makes a whole lot of sense.

Except there is a very strong possibility Marrone is gone anyways if they don’t make the playoffs. I just don’t see it with the lack of talent they have and playing in a relatively competitive AFC South. The GM might get another chance, especially if they get Lawrence. He didn’t make the Coughlin mess so he should have a little more rope than Marrone.

[tredadda]

The logical course of action was to can Coughlin, Marrone, and Caldwell all at the same time.

Then the new regime would have a legit shot at having excuse for tanking.

It absolutely does appear, at face value, that the Jags are tanking. But that would almost certainly mean Marrone and Caldwell will essentially be getting themselves fired.

Why would they agree to stay on only to be fired a year later? That's the part that doesn't make sense to me. They're essentially digging their own grave by tanking this season. Unless Khan has compensated them somehow for being the scapegoats?

Remember when Pioli “assisted” in the coaching interviews that got us Reid knowing that for all intents and purposes he was getting canned? Why would he do that?

[tredadda]

Thank you for being honest and showing some intelligence sir :thumb: ..because there's a lot of biased and dumb people on this forum who don't have a clue what they're talking about and just spout hot air all day.

If Fournette was as good as you think he is then why could Jax not trade him to anyone? They couldn’t even get a low round pick for him. That’s pretty telling for the former #4 pick still on a rookie contract.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

The cat use to fart were the dog drinks

[DaneMcCloud]

If Fournette was as good as you think he is then why could Jax not trade him to anyone? They couldn’t even get a low round pick for him. That’s pretty telling for the former #4 pick still on a rookie contract.

Everyone in the league knew he was going to be released, so instead of sending a draft pick to Jacksonville and paying Fournette $6 million this year, teams would rather take their chances to sign him to a one year Vet Minimum deal.

[DaneMcCloud]

Remember when Pioli “assisted” in the coaching interviews that got us Reid knowing that for all intents and purposes he was getting canned? Why would he do that?

Because Clark Hunt asked him to sit in on the meeting

[tredadda]

Everyone in the league knew he was going to be released, so instead of sending a draft pick to Jacksonville and paying Fournette $6 million this year, teams would rather take their chances to sign him to a one year Vet Minimum deal.

Makes sense, but it would seem that if he was a good as some believe a team would have been willing to give up a pick to ensure they got him versus rolling the dice.

[Bowser]

The Jags were in the AFC Championship game not that long ago, right? That's not some weird alternate reality event I'm remembering, is it?

[DaneMcCloud]

Makes sense, but it would seem that if he was a good as some believe a team would have been willing to give up a pick to ensure they got him versus rolling the dice.

Not at $6 million.

Teams would rather roll over their cap space to 2021 than spend that on a running back, especially given the tenuous nature of the salary cap due to C19.

[Coach]

The Jags were in the AFC Championship game not that long ago, right? That's not some weird alternate reality event I'm remembering, is it?

2017-2018 season.

[Deberg_1990]

The Jags were in the AFC Championship game not that long ago, right? That's not some weird alternate reality event I'm remembering, is it?

Conned by the fools gold of Blake Bortles.

[Skyy God]

The Jags were in the AFC Championship game not that long ago, right? That's not some weird alternate reality event I'm remembering, is it?

Absent some truly Marty-esque 2nd half playcalling, they would have made the SB.

[lcarus]

We don't even need a RB. We have Clyde, Washington, Thompson and we get Darrel Williams back from injury this year. Before his injury he was pretty involved in the offense. I expect Clyde and Williams will get most of the work.

[UChieffyBugger]

If Fournette was as good as you think he is then why could Jax not trade him to anyone? They couldn’t even get a low round pick for him. That’s pretty telling for the former #4 pick still on a rookie contract.

People KNOW Jax are blowing their roster up for the tank so why would anyone trade picks for him? smh

[DaneMcCloud]

We don't even need a RB. We have Clyde, Washington, Thompson and we get Darrel Williams back from injury this year. Before his injury he was pretty involved in the offense. I expect Clyde and Williams will get most of the work.

Washington is far from a lock, Thompson is a JAG and Darrel Williams has proven absolutely nothing in the NFL.

I'm not advocating for the Chiefs to sign Fournette but the Chiefs depth chart beyond their 1st round selection is average at best and weak at worst.

Veach has shown that he'll always pursue upgrades to any and all positions if the player make sense for the team.

[Titty Meat]

We don't even need a RB. We have Clyde, Washington, Thompson and we get Darrel Williams back from injury this year. Before his injury he was pretty involved in the offense. I expect Clyde and Williams will get most of the work.

Lmao besides clyde all those guys suck wtf are you talking about

[htismaqe]

People KNOW Jax are blowing their roster up for the tank so why would anyone trade picks for him? smh

If somebody REALLY wanted him, they could have traded a 6th and not had to worry about the waiver wire.

JAG is JAG. Sorry.

[htismaqe]

Washington is far from a lock, Thompson is a JAG and Darrel Williams has proven absolutely nothing in the NFL.

I'm not advocating for the Chiefs to sign Fournette but the Chiefs depth chart beyond their 1st round selection is average at best and weak at worst.

Veach has shown that he'll always pursue upgrades to any and all positions if the player make sense for the team.

Washington has been the last guy in the last few days of practice. He might not even make the team, while they keep freaking Thompson. Let that sink in for a bit.

[DaneMcCloud]

Washington has been the last guy in the last few days of practice. He might not even make the team, while they keep freaking Thompson. Let that sink in for a bit.

All I can say is that I trust Reid and Bieniemy...

[lcarus]

Washington is far from a lock, Thompson is a JAG and Darrel Williams has proven absolutely nothing in the NFL.

I'm not advocating for the Chiefs to sign Fournette but the Chiefs depth chart beyond their 1st round selection is average at best and weak at worst.

Veach has shown that he'll always pursue upgrades to any and all positions if the player make sense for the team.

Yeah I don't think it's great depth or anything. I just see them rolling with Clyde and then whoever plays the best behind him. Darrel Williams might not be that good but at least he knows the offense. Then again, who knows. Maybe they do want to upgrade the position and like Fournette. It would kind of surprise me though.

[htismaqe]

All I can say is that I trust Reid and Bieniemy...

Yep. Neither one of us likes Thompson but if he's getting snaps ahead of Washington, that's a damn bad sign.

[Mecca]

We'll see if Thompson takes a step but as of today Washington isn't going to make the team.

[RunKC]

Yep. Neither one of us likes Thompson but if he's getting snaps ahead of Washington, that's a damn bad sign.

Hard to see with no preseason or media availability in camp, but Thompson must really have improved to be holding off Washington

[UChieffyBugger]

As much as I'd like him on this team..I have a hard time believing he clears waivers tbh. If he does clear it then It would be very interesting to see If Veach bites.

[Tribal Warfare]

Chiefs love LSU RBs. CEH,Darrel Williams, and Spencer Ware all are LSU products. Thus, Fournette may be considered

[Danguardace]

Can you really judge anyone coming out Jacksonville. Get him in that Chiefs Locker room and with Mahomes. Worth it IMO

[Great Expectations]

If he is getting 10-15 touches a game instead of 30 I think he’d be much more productive/efficient late in the year.

[htismaqe]

If he is getting 10-15 touches a game instead of 30 I think he’d be much more productive/efficient late in the year.

Will he be happy with 10 touches a game, though? That's the big question.

[Couch-Potato]

Would make an excellent 1-2 punch

[ModSocks]

When will we know if cleared waivers?

[Mecca]

When will we know if cleared waivers?

I'm sure he will, most teams have RBs and will not pay him 4 mill.

[RealSNR]

As much as I'd like him on this team..I have a hard time believing he clears waivers tbh. If he does clear it then It would be very interesting to see If Veach bites.

If nobody claims him off waivers, will you suck Titty Meat's dick?

[htismaqe]

I'm sure he will, most teams have RBs and will not pay him 4 mill.

Is it 4 or 6 million?

[ModSocks]

Is it 4 or 6 million?

I keep reading 4. Which, IMO isn't that bad.

[htismaqe]

From the looks of it, a team could have traded a 6th or 7th and been on the hook only for his guaranteed portion, $4.17M. Any team claiming him off waivers would have to pay him the same.

So he's not getting claimed off of waivers.

Also, I just read the reason why they let him go is because they feel he's a poor fit for the WCO. He's not coming to KC, that dream is dead.

[kevrunner]

Will he be happy with 10 touches a game, though? That's the big question.

I think he would, he needs to showcase his talent for next year. Chiefs would be perfect for him. Then next year he would hopefully get a nice contract from another team and the Chiefs could get a compensatory pick, I’m not sure about the pick. Also, Fournette is good in pass protection.

[htismaqe]

I think he would, he needs to showcase his talent for next year. Chiefs would be perfect for him. Then next year he would hopefully get a nice contract from another team and the Chiefs could get a compensatory pick, I’m not sure about the pick. Also, Fournette is good in pass protection.

I really don't see him accepting a role that only gets him 10 touches a game. He wants to be a feature back. He's not going to get that here. He's not going to get that anywhere where they run a WCO, which is why Jax let him go.

[ModSocks]

Chargers make the most sense to me. They want to run the ball and play defense and i don't think Eckler is an every down back. The depth behind Eckler is a bunch of no-names and rookies. They want to be a running team and their RB stable is the worst in the division.

[wazu]

Chargers make the most sense to me. They want to run the ball and play defense and i don't think Eckler is an every down back. The depth behind Eckler is a bunch of no-names and rookies. They want to be a running team and their RB stable is the worst in the division.

Shut your mouth! (Ekeler is on my fantasy team.)

[htismaqe]

Chargers make the most sense to me. They want to run the ball and play defense and i don't think Eckler is an every down back. The depth behind Eckler is a bunch of no-names and rookies. They want to be a running team and their RB stable is the worst in the division.

Makes sense, he's probably a better Melvin Gordon than Melvin Gordon.

[UChieffyBugger]

From the looks of it, a team could have traded a 6th or 7th and been on the hook only for his guaranteed portion, $4.17M. Any team claiming him off waivers would have to pay him the same.

So he's not getting claimed off of waivers.

Also, I just read the reason why they let him go is because they feel he's a poor fit for the WCO. He's not coming to KC, that dream is dead.

Lol more hot air from our resident "know it all" ROFL

[CasselGotPeedOn]

Lol more hot air from our resident "know it all" ROFL

When this bum doesn't end up in KC, will you promise to never post here again?

[UChieffyBugger]

When this bum doesn't end up in KC, will you promise to never post here again?

The fact that you think he's a "bum" tells me you're a total idiot when it comes to the game of foorball :thumb:

[htismaqe]

Lol more hot air from our resident "know it all" ROFL

ROFL

Insults coming from a mouth breather like you are a badge of honor.

[UChieffyBugger]

ROFL

Insults coming from a mouth breather like you are a badge of honor.

Well you're welcome to take that "badge" and get a brain doc to insert it into your skull!!!...you'd probably talk more sense in the long run buddy :D

[htismaqe]

Well you're welcome to take that "badge" and get a brain doc to insert it into your skull!!!...you'd probably talk more sense in the long run buddy :D

:D

[Sofa King]

When are cut downs?

[CasselGotPeedOn]

The fact that you think he's a "bum" tells me you're a total idiot when it comes to the game of foorball :thumb:

I'll take that as a yes.

[In58men]

My understanding is the Chiefs have potential interest in Leonard Fournette now that he's cleared waivers.

The money would need to be right as he'd be backing up Clyde Edwards-Helaire, who has impressed considerably in training camp.

Per Matt Verderame

[pugsnotdrugs19]

They must not like their depth at RB at all if that’s legit.

Is he going to be content with hardly ever seeing the football? I doubt it.

[wazu]

My understanding is the Chiefs have potential interest in Leonard Fournette now that he's cleared waivers.

The money would need to be right as he'd be backing up Clyde Edwards-Helaire, who has impressed considerably in training camp.

Per Matt Verderame

Oh boy.

[ModSocks]

They must not like their depth at RB at all if that’s legit.

Is he going to be content with hardly ever seeing the football? I doubt it.

He wouldn't "hardly ever see the football though".

I'd bet, if he's productive, the Chiefs will do a good job of distributing the workload between he and CEH.

AND....


ANNNND....

...The Mahomes Effect.

[UChieffyBugger]

My understanding is the Chiefs have potential interest in Leonard Fournette now that he's cleared waivers.

The money would need to be right as he'd be backing up Clyde Edwards-Helaire, who has impressed considerably in training camp.

Per Matt Verderame

WELL..WELL...WELL ISN'T THAT INTERESTING :evil: ..Fournette has also said money won't come into his decision apparently...would he want to come win a chip with his fellow lsu buddies Ceh and Williams? Let's see. Over here he'd be in open box heaven pretty much so why not?

[ModSocks]

They must not like their depth at RB at all if that’s legit.

Is he going to be content with hardly ever seeing the football? I doubt it.

Also, their depth is basically just Darrel Williams.

Thompson looked bad out there, even though we all really wanted him to look good, and maybe even convinced ourselves that he looked better than he did....

[kevrunner]

I really don't see him accepting a role that only gets him 10 touches a game. He wants to be a feature back. He's not going to get that here. He's not going to get that anywhere where they run a WCO, which is why Jax let him go.

I don’t think he can be a feature back with any team this year, but the Chiefs are a good spot for him. He can back up CEH, and get 10 to 15 touches a game. Chiefs probably only have to pay $2 to $2.5 million for him. Fournette’s only chance to get a nice contract next year is to show he is a team player and still productive. I think he would be happy to land with the Chiefs. The only other spots that I think are better for him potentially are Tampa and Chicago. I knew Jacksonville was going to get rid of him once he announced publicly that they should sign Cam Newton when he was a free agent. No way I could see Minshew wanting to have Fournette on the team after that. Since he cleared waivers, it’s going to be interesting to see where he lands.

[ModSocks]

Rotoworld is predicting $2-2.5M for him....

That's what we were paying Spencer Ware and ...that one guy who's name escapes me right now...

[Kiimo]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My understanding is the Chiefs have potential interest in Leonard Fournette now that he&#39;s cleared waivers.<br><br>The money would need to be right as he&#39;d be backing up Clyde Edwards-Helaire, who has impressed considerably in training camp.</p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1300900974098227200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[wazu]

Well I would like this a lot better than the McCoy signing.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Rotoworld is predicting $2-2.5M for him....

That's what we were paying Spencer Ware and ...that one guy who's name escapes me right now...

I would love to have the depth.

But I hate taking reps from CEH.

There’s no in-between. If he signs, he’s going to play.

[Mecca]

Rotoworld is predicting $2-2.5M for him....

That's what we were paying Spencer Ware and ...that one guy who's name escapes me right now...

Charcandrick West?

[Kiimo]

I think he'd be taking reps from the other guys.

[Mecca]

I think he'd be taking reps from the other guys.

If you could just make him a short yardage spell guy that'd help. Truthfully though if CEH goes down we won't be running much today cause those backups...

[Kiimo]

This isn't a fantasy thread or a CEH thread so I'll say...


Having Fournette be a backup would be good for the Chiefs. We don't have anybody like him.

He uh, may be crazy though

[ModSocks]

Charcandrick West?

That's the guy!

[ModSocks]

I would love to have the depth.

But I hate taking reps from CEH.

There’s no in-between. If he signs, he’s going to play.

I don't mind taking reps from a rookie and keeping him fresh for the next SB run.

[UChieffyBugger]

I'm calling it now...if we get Fournette to be a one-two punch alongside Clyde we will have the best offense this league has EVER seen..that's how confident I am about him. I pray Veach agrees.

[ModSocks]

I'm not going to pretend like i've followed Fournette's career, but:

1. Jacksonville is where young talent goes to die

2. He's a big dude that can run fast

3. Reid knows how to use a RB possibly better than anyone in the league.

[RunKC]

Why would you not sign Fournette for that price to be a backup?

This time 2 years ago Osemele and Fournette were known as destroyers. The value we could get for these guys would be insane

[Dante84]

lol this would be such a Veach move

"Oh, you cut your bust of a first-rounder? Let me pay him nothing and get moderate production out of him. When he leaves, we'll take a comp pick, too."

[ModSocks]

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Fourfun lets Fournette

[Kiimo]

1674 all purpose yards last season. He doesn't score touchdowns but CEH can do that.

[Mecca]

Veach does seem to like cast off high draft picks...we have a ton of LSU guys with a strong locker room so I doubt he'd be an issue.

[RunKC]

I would love to have the depth.

But I hate taking reps from CEH.

There’s no in-between. If he signs, he’s going to play.

CEH can have the first half and Fournette can get the 2nd half when we’re up by 20 points and milking the clock

[ModSocks]

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Fourfun lets Fournette

Man, if anyone else is watching this it's REAAAALLY easy to see how he'd fit in in this offense.

[Jerok]

Thinking about it, the Seahawks will probably be where it goes. Then the Bears, maybe the Steelers.

But if the Chiefs get him I'll be very happy. Low risk signing, assuming it's under 2 mil.

[staylor26]

Like I told Dane, I’m down if the price is low and he’s fine with not being the starter.

I just find it hard to believe he doesn’t want to go somewhere he can start.

[Mecca]

Like I told Dane, I’m down if the price is low and he’s fine with not being the starter.

I find it hard to believe he doesn’t want to go somewhere he can start.

Most teams have a RB, even bad ones.

[staylor26]

Most teams have a RB, even bad ones.

They aren’t all better than Fournette. He can start for the Dolphins, Steelers, Pats etc.

[htismaqe]

If he's willing to accept a complimentary role and a meager salary, he's welcome to come here. Absolutely.

[Mecca]

They aren’t all better than Fournette. He can start for the Dolphins, Steelers, Pats etc.

I see Seattle and Miami as about it if he wants to start...and even then it's eh other than Miami.

[htismaqe]

He wouldn't "hardly ever see the football though".

I'd bet, if he's productive, the Chiefs will do a good job of distributing the workload between he and CEH.

AND....


ANNNND....

...The Mahomes Effect.

The thing is Fournette had 40 more rushes AND 40 more pass targets than Williams and Shady COMBINED last year.

Is he going to want to go from 250+ carries and 100 targets to 100+ carries and 35 targets in the Chiefs offense, because that's what he's likely to get.

If he's down with that kind of drop in importance, there's no reason not to bring him in. If the Chiefs are indeed interested then he must have had a change of heart at some point...

[staylor26]

I see Seattle and Miami as about it if he wants to start...and even then it's eh other than Miami.

Fournette is better than Sony Michel and James Connor dude. At the very least, he has a chance to compete with guys like that and split touches.

He’s not beating out CEH or even getting close to 50% of the touches. That’s the point.

[UChieffyBugger]

Lol it really makes me laugh when these folks who clearly haven't seen much of Fournette spout crap about :back-up" smh...he would be what Mark Ingram was to Kamara...PERIOD.

[gblowfish]

With D Williams on Covid Opt-Out, he'd be a hell of a weapon to have on third and short. If he can hang on to the ball and be a contributor, and we have the scratch to pay him, why not? Players want to play where they can win. We haven't been used to that around here. Players want to play with Mahomie. It's fun, damn it!

[Dante84]

Man, if anyone else is watching this it's REAAAALLY easy to see how he'd fit in in this offense.

Reminds me a little of Priest in this tape

EDIT - Priest against current defenders' speed, that is.

[htismaqe]

Like I told Dane, I’m down if the price is low and he’s fine with not being the starter.

I just find it hard to believe he doesn’t want to go somewhere he can start.

Yep, same here.

[DJ's left nut]

Thinking about it, the Seahawks will probably be where it goes. Then the Bears, maybe the Steelers.

But if the Chiefs get him I'll be very happy. Low risk signing, assuming it's under 2 mil.

He's going to go anyplace he thinks he can get 300 touches. Literally anywhere. If that's the Bucs, that's where he'll go.

I would suggest that 250 touches is probably a more realistic target for him and there are a few teams that may be willing to offer that.

I don't think he'll do a particularly good job with them, but I don't think HE believes that. He's probably pretty sure that he's a premier RB and anyplace he goes he'll be able to prove it if he's given the rock.

So I don't think 'situation' will matter for him as much as volume. The Seahawks may be a good system fit but with Carson I don't think he gets that kind of share.

[htismaqe]

He's going to go anyplace he thinks he can get 300 touches. Literally anywhere. If that's the Bucs, that's where he'll go.

I would suggest that 250 touches is probably a more realistic target for him and there are a few teams that may be willing to offer that.

I don't think he'll do a particularly good job with them, but I don't think HE believes that. He's probably pretty sure that he's a premier RB and anyplace he goes he'll be able to prove it if he's given the rock.

So I don't think 'situation' will matter for him as much as volume. The Seahawks may be a good system fit but with Carson I don't think he gets that kind of share.

Yep. Unless he's willing to accept a volume more in the 150-200 touch range, he won't be a Chief. They're not going to build an offense around him and that's what he wants, or at least what he wanted. Maybe he's changed his mind?

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Hard pass on Leonard. I don’t want him fucking up the chemistry in the locker room

[DJ's left nut]

Like I told Dane, I’m down if the price is low and he’s fine with not being the starter.

I just find it hard to believe he doesn’t want to go somewhere he can start.

I'm just not even a little bit on board w/ bringing in a guy who pissed and moaned his way out of town when it will cost a guy a roster spot who's been a good soldier and valuable teammate.

The only way I do that is if it's a clear upgrade at a position of major importance.

Now I'll listen to arguments on the former there (he's probably an upgrade over Williams) but the latter? Eh....

Obviously we're one injury away from a real problem at the RB spot but hell, almost everyone is. The Chiefs have found RBs every time they've needed to and if CEH went down, I'd be confident they'd do so again.

I understand the league isn't about charity - but at some point if you keep piling volatile personalities in a room, you run into trouble. And yeah, this team does have a handful of guys like that. But winning cures a LOT. As does a clear understanding of roles.

Bring in a personality like Fournette to be your backup RB and even if he's cheap, I don't think the risk is worth the reward.

[Kiimo]

Whole lot of LSU guys in that locker room

[DJ's left nut]

Hard pass on Leonard. I don’t want him fucking up the chemistry in the locker room

Shit.

Ignore everything I just said.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Whole lot of LSU guys in that locker room

I love Darrel as our #2. I’ve been a Darrel supporter for a couple years now. Him and Clyde are tight because they both went to LSU. Yes so did Leonard but you just know it’s a matter of time before he bitches about not getting the ball enough. I don’t want that. Our chemistry is amazing. Last thing we want is someone fucking it up

[staylor26]

I'm just not even a little bit on board w/ bringing in a guy who pissed and moaned his way out of town when it will cost a guy a roster spot who's been a good soldier and valuable teammate.

The only way I do that is if it's a clear upgrade at a position of major importance.

Now I'll listen to arguments on the former there (he's probably an upgrade over Williams) but the latter? Eh....

Obviously we're one injury away from a real problem at the RB spot but hell, almost everyone is. The Chiefs have found RBs every time they've needed to and if CEH went down, I'd be confident they'd do so again.

I understand the league isn't about charity - but at some point if you keep piling volatile personalities in a room, you run into trouble. And yeah, this team does have a handful of guys like that. But winning cures a LOT. As does a clear understanding of roles.

Bring in a personality like Fournette to be your backup RB and even if he's cheap, I don't think the risk is worth the reward.

I agree, but this is all under the assumption that the Chiefs want him and believe he’s a fit in the locker room and on the field. If they do, I’m fine with it, but I would just roll with what we have personally.

[The Franchise]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On Leonard Fournette after he went unclaimed on waivers: I&#39;m told wherever he lands won&#39;t be a money decision. 2020 is going to be about scheme fit and the coaching staff that leans into a power running game. Opportunity will be important, but skill fit will be absolutely vital.</p>&mdash; Charles Robinson (@CharlesRobinson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/status/1300901035146391552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[ThaVirus]

I'm not going to pretend like i've followed Fournette's career, but:

1. Jacksonville is where young talent goes to die

2. He's a big dude that can run fast

3. Reid knows how to use a RB possibly better than anyone in the league.

He's like a bigger, faster version of Darrell Williams, IMO.

[Red Dawg]

Power running is not our style. He wants the ball a lot to get paid next year. Won't happen here.

[Sorry]

I’ll be surprised if raiders don’t try to sign him despite having Jacobs (if they have the money). He may have a career projection of an Ingram

[Chiefshrink]

Hard pass on Leonard. I don’t want him ****ing up the chemistry in the locker room

Easy pass for me. NO!!!;)

[htismaqe]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On Leonard Fournette after he went unclaimed on waivers: I&#39;m told wherever he lands won&#39;t be a money decision. 2020 is going to be about scheme fit and the coaching staff that leans into a power running game. Opportunity will be important, but skill fit will be absolutely vital.</p>&mdash; Charles Robinson (@CharlesRobinson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/status/1300901035146391552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sounds like he's still dead set on being the focal point of the offense. Not gonna happen here.

[Kiimo]

Yeah that sounds like not us. If he wants a scheme fit and also to win welp. Not sure where that is, which is the problem with him in general.

[UChieffyBugger]

IF reports are true about the Chiefs being interested then I'm sure they will have had discussions with his agent about his potential role on the team. Speculating about how many carries he wants and what scheme is stupid at this point.

[WhiteWhale]

Anyone could have had fournette for a 7th rounder and avoided losing out on a waiver claim.

Think about it. He makes 4 million this year.

[DaneMcCloud]

Anyone could have had fournette for a 7th rounder and avoided losing out on a waiver claim.

Think about it. He makes 4 million this year.

Most teams have been hesitant to give any big deals this season, let alone, giving up a draft choice and $4 million for a guy that can be had for Vet Minimum and no draft compensation as of today.

[Eleazar]

It's funny that the guy talked his way out of Jacksonville and cleared waivers, so he turned his $4 million into... whatever he will get now? Think that will improve the attitude of a player who's already entitled far beyond his worth...?

[UChieffyBugger]

It's funny that the guy talked his way out of Jacksonville and cleared waivers, so he turned his $4 million into... whatever he will get now? Think that will improve the attitude of a player who's already entitled far beyond his worth...?

Er surely you know that the jags have ran off several key players before now right? SURELY?

[Halfcan]

You can ever have too many good RB's. Bring him in for a look.

[Danguardace]

Sounds like he's still dead set on being the focal point of the offense. Not gonna happen here.

Joining anyone this late he isn't going to the focal point unless a big name gets injured between now and next week.

[JakeF]

jags should out tank the patriots for the clemson qb

I don't think Belicheck has it in him to really tank. It depends on how good their defense is. He'll probably win a couple meaningless games at the end of the season.

[JakeF]

Anyone could have had fournette for a 7th rounder and avoided losing out on a waiver claim.

Think about it. He makes 4 million this year.I don't think 4 million is in the books for him this year.

[FAH-Q]

Paylor and Robinson talked about Fournette making it a priority to consider the Chiefs, and vice versa, if the price is right. Paylor refuted Robinson's suggestion due to the shotgun style offense we have, but also pointed out that Fournette's pass catching is something never really discussed (76 receptions last year), which could intrigue Reid and the Chiefs looking for a change of pace back and some depth with a true rookie. Given the fact that Jax has literally been unable to keep anyone of value on their team, I don't know that I'd put much stock in players who were considered "attitude" problems by that coaching staff. Not a lot of credibility in that building.

[UChieffyBugger]

Fournette would be the fastest guy in our RB room and also the one most likely to break off a 80 yard td. He's also good on the goal line and could be used to eat clock late. Him and Ceh would give us a great running game imo and it would put defenses in an incredible bind. Let Fournette and Ceh gash them on the ground or let Pat run riot through the air? You just can't stop that. Also Tyrann and Fournette grew up together and are good friends apparently...plus he obviously knows Darrell and Ceh having already shared the RB room with them at LSU...so he's got three friends here already.

And lastly him getting lesser touches would work to his and our advantage because he should be way more healthy through the season rather than being given the ball a million times a game like he was at Jax and being beaten up for three hours.