***** The Official Chiefs vs. Ravens game day thread*****

[big nasty kcnut]

it game time.

Passing Yards
KC BAL
P. Mahomes L. Jackson
51-79, 513 YDS, 5 TD 38-49, 479 YDS, 4 TD

Rushing Yards
KC BAL
C. Edwards-Helaire L. Jackson
35 CAR, 176 YDS, 1 TD 23 CAR, 99 YDS

Receiving Yards
KC BAL
T. Hill M. Brown
10 REC, 145 YDS, 2 TD 10 REC, 143 YDS

Baltimore temp game time will be 74⁰ partly cloudy.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

First!!

[Mahomes_Is_God]

5th!

[Dante84]

EEEEIIIIIIINNNNNNN

[comochiefsfan]

This is one of those titanic regular season matchups that only rolls around once every few years. Should be a fun one.

Hopefully our linebackers decide to nut up this game. Otherwise they're going to ram it down our throats all night.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Can Schwartz please block someone. Idk what’s happened to him but he’s struggling this year. Also for the love of god can our LBs make a tackle. We are second in the league in missed tackles right behind the Jets

[Rasputin]

Well hell since bnk started this thread I'll tune in to watch just how we win but it's a given thanks bnk .


I bet Vegas hates it when big nasty kcnut starts a GDT.

[Rasputin]

5th!

of whisky?

What kind?

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Posters on purpleflock say Lamar isn’t as fast as last year and their interior o line is terrible along with their pass rush. They said Jones will have a huge day

[Rasputin]

Posters on purpleflock say Lamar isn’t as fast as last year and their interior o line is terrible along with their pass rush. They said Jones will have a huge day

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[Direckshun]

Our tertiary receivers are set to have a huge day if they blitz us all game. Everybody has to be on their toes. We could really use Sammy to play, if for nothing to draw a top tier corner and keep their depth corners on Robinson/Hardman.

I hope Clark feels healthy. We’re going to need great games on the edge from him and Kpass and Danna. I hope to see Demone Harris out there, as he may be our best runstopping DE. (I’m a Demone Harris homer.)

Pennel needs to be in game shape and we need to be able to flood the intermediate zone and take Andrews out. I trust Sneed on the outside. The other side shouldn’t hurt us too bad but we need Thornhill to rebound.

At the end of the day I just can’t trust our LBs to beat the run down on 1st and 2nd down. If the Ravens gash us like I think they will it’s going to get ugly — real ugly. And there’s nothing Mahomes can do if the Ravens won’t let him on the field.

Mahomes is the cheat code, though. Just, every other factor goes the Ravens way.

Hope I’m wrong.

[Mahomes_Is_God]

of whisky?

What kind?

None. I am currently solber!

[Rasputin]

None. I am currently solber!

:thumb:


I'll drink to that :BLVD:

[Mahomes_Is_God]

Same here. I'm drinking orange juice though.

[Rasputin]

What's the word on Sammie?



I hope Harman gets some balls thrown his way and Tyreek gets his.

I don't see us losing but I think it will be a fight for 3 quarters then we just go up two touchdowns and a field goal from 69 yards Buttker is good for it.

[Mahomes_Is_God]

What's the word on Sammie?



I hope Harman gets some balls thrown his way and Tyreek gets his.

I don't see us losing but I think it will be a fight for 3 quarters then we just go up two touchdowns and a field goal from 69 yards Buttker is good for it.

Last I heard it sounded like Sammy is likely to play but I don't think it's been confirmed yet.

[Rasputin]

Last I heard it sounded like Sammy is likely to play but I don't think it's been confirmed yet.

I'm not a doctor but I'd give him the week off but idk I just want to see Hardman and Hill on the field because speed kills.

[Rasputin]

Just over 13 hours before kickoff.


THinking if it's dark enough I may watch it in my back yard at the back of my house wall with a projector .


I know I'll do that with the Thursday night game coming up but not sure if it will be dark enough to start the game tonight.

[Pushead2]

Let's get it.

[smithandrew051]

In!

Fuck these motherfuckers.

I hope we see Andy Reid’s dick tonight!!!!

[Hammock Parties]

There can be only one MVP.

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[Danguardace]

Lamar getting ready for tonight!

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[cabletech94]

Can’t wait.

[Mahomes_Is_God]

There can be only one MVP.

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No, reverse that. Everybody knows that The Kurgan is the best character in Highlander. Make Lamar be lame ass Connor.

[Hammock Parties]

No, reverse that. Everybody knows that The Kurgan is the best character in Highlander. Make Lamar be lame ass Connor.

The Kurgan fucking loses because Reidmirez taught MahCleod well.

[Mahomes_Is_God]

The Kurgan ****ing loses because Reidmirez taught MahCleod well.

Who gives a shit? The Kurgan is ****ing awesome!

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[Mahomes_Is_God]

Make Lamar be the shitty bad guy from Highlander 2 or 3. He's not worthy of being the Kurgan.

[digger]

IN, Let's goooo! Run it back!

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[Coochie liquor]

In for the champs doing champ thangs!!

[Rasputin]

So without the actual crowed at the game but they feed crowed noise I hope to the fuck they don't play that stupid 7 nation army like the Orioles, they ruined that song.

[Hammock Parties]

Make Lamar be the shitty bad guy from Highlander 2 or 3. He's not worthy of being the Kurgan.

He was MVP, dipshit. ROFL

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

The regular season is just practice. Go practice!

[Mahomes_Is_God]

He was MVP, dipshit. ROFL

So? He's still Mario Van Peebles at best. He ain't no Clancy Brown.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I’m real excited... but I’m also trying to temper my enthusiasm knowing that there’s a really strong chance we see this team again in a few months — in a much more important contest.

[Dunerdr]

This feels like the prime time match up with the pats a few years ago where we demoralized them. 41-14 or whatever it was. Excepte im not going. Lets roast these ravens!

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Think I’m gonna go hammer the over real quick.

[Hammock Parties]

So? He's still Mario Van Peebles at best. He ain't no Clancy Brown.

You're too late. The quickening has begun!

Besides, Highlander is already a risk. Highlander 2 and 3? Most people have never seen those shit shows. ROFL

[Mahomes_Is_God]

You're too late. The quickening has begun!

Besides, Highlander is already a risk. Highlander 2 and 3? Most people have never seen those shit shows. ROFL

I am ashamed to admit that I have watched both of them. I've even seen Highlander 4, which I don't think many people know exists. Anyways, GO CHIEFS!

[Hammock Parties]

WHO WANTS TO LIVE FOREVERRRRRRRRRRRR

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[CasselGotPeedOn]

LMAO

[DRM08]

WHO WANTS TO LIVE FOREVERRRRRRRRRRRR

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Isn't this the guy who said Mahomes was undraftable?

[Coochie liquor]

I’ll be waiting all day for Monday night...

[Hammock Parties]

I’ll be waiting all day for Monday night...

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[LoneWolf]

I feel much better about the game tonight after seeing big nasty kcnut started the GDT. Decided to work from home today, smoke a brisket, and get into a little Blantons before kickoff. This game feels like a playoff game to me and I look forward to Lamar Jackson sulking on the bench again at the end.

[duncan_idaho]

I see a 37-31 Chiefs win, with them again holding a 2-score lead entering the 4th and having the game in hand.

Mahomes has success beating the Ravens' blitz, which has trouble getting home. The Chiefs' D clogs the middle of the field, daring Jackson to beat it outside the numbers, and it slows the Ravens down enough early for KC to grab that 2-score lead.

Hill and Hardman both have long catch-and-run TDs. Mahomes throws 4 TD passes.

[Coochie liquor]

I’m excited to see the offense opened up some. O line better get their shit together. I think our DL will put lots of pressure on Lamar.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

So without the actual crowed at the game but they feed crowed noise I hope to the fuck they don't play that stupid 7 nation army like the Orioles, they ruined that song.

Those losers head bang to that shit. It's all they play at Baltimore sporting events. Dumb as all fuck.

[Hammock Parties]

Only thing that worries me in this game is easy scores for the Ravens.

Hollywood Brown CANNOT get behind Thornhill. He has to be on his game tonight.

If we don't give them any easy scores, and Lamar doesn't just run wild scrambling on our linebackers, we got this.

No 60 yard broken coverages, no 40 yard scrambles.

Even with that, it's Mahomes. We'll be fine. LMAO

[alpha_omega]

In. I really hate having to wait all day.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Our LBs are gonna struggle keeping up with that RB playing QB

[Hammock Parties]

Be interesting to see what Harbaugh does with the fourth downs and two-point conversions this time.

That ruined him last time.

[wazu]

I feel much better about the game tonight after seeing big nasty kcnut started the GDT. Decided to work from home today, smoke a brisket, and get into a little Blantons before kickoff. This game feels like a playoff game to me and I look forward to Lamar Jackson sulking on the bench again at the end.

Agree. With the new playoff format and having only the #1 seed get a "bye", it feels almost like we have to be perfect, especially when facing other top AFC contenders. This game has a huge impact on our ability to return to the Superbowl.

[Hammock Parties]

Don't forget last year when we played them Frank Clark was a walking corpse.

Could be huge. HUGE!

[htismaqe]

It's all going to start with the defensive line.

Last year, Clark was off and despite that, Okafor and Ogbah did a great a job setting the edge and staying disciplined.

Jackson had his 5th worst rushing game of the season against the early 2019 Chiefs defense that was borderline terrible at the time.

Spags got this.

[htismaqe]

Agree. With the new playoff format and having only the #1 seed get a "bye", it feels almost like we have to be perfect, especially when facing other top AFC contenders. This game has a huge impact on our ability to return to the Superbowl.

:doh!:

[Mahomes_Is_God]

Those losers head bang to that shit. It's all they play at Baltimore sporting events. Dumb as all ****.

I say fuck the crowd noise and just blast Metallica all game long. Play some One, Master of Puppets, For Whom the Bell Tolls, and maybe some Black Album. Now that would be a badass football game.

[rabblerouser]

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This.

[htismaqe]

I say fuck the crowd noise and just blast Metallica all game long. Play some One, Master of Puppets, For Whom the Bell Tolls, and maybe some Black Album. Now that would be a badass football game.

Black album?

Do you want the players to vomit mid-play?

[Mahomes_Is_God]

Black album?

Do you want the players to vomit mid-play?

Hey, don't diss the Black album. That's a fine piece of art.

[htismaqe]

Hey, don't diss the Black album. That's a fine piece of art.

Kind of like paintings made out of elephant shit are art.

[Munson]

I've got a rare Monday off from work, so I'll be able to enjoy the entire game.

Now let's rip the heads off these Ratbirds, and shit down their necks!!!

[Easy 6]

Ross Tucker said on the DP show earlier to expect a double digits Ravens win... LMAO

[Marcellus]

Ross Tucker said on the DP show earlier to expect a double digits Ravens win... LMAO

Mahomes has never lost by more than what 7 points? I mean I guess its eventfully going to happen but people seem to forget this.

[Easy 6]

Mahomes has never lost by more than what 7 points? I mean I guess its eventfully going to happen but people seem to forget this.

Pretty sure that’s correct, and yeah it’ll happen one day... but not today!

[Mecca]

Ross Tucker seems to be the latest talking head that really doesn't like the Chiefs being good.

[DRM08]

Mahomes has never lost by more than what 7 points? I mean I guess its eventfully going to happen but people seem to forget this.

Bound to happen at some point. I do hope the players are seeing these predictions and will have a chip on their shoulder tonight.

[duncan_idaho]

Ross Tucker said on the DP show earlier to expect a double digits Ravens win... LMAO

That's pretty stupid, but I kind of expect stupid from Tucker when it comes to the Chiefs. They are built antithetically to his preferred style of football, and the Ravens line up with his preferred style.

I'm interested to see what Spagnuolo deploys. His scheme last year against the Ravens was really effective (it forced Jackson into taking a lot of deep shots, which he didn't hit) and would have looked even better save for the two literal prayers Jackson managed to connect with that led to points for the Ravens.

I think we'll see an aggressive approach to stopping the Ravens' rush attack... four-man front with the ends playing contain and blitzing a linebacker (and possibly two) into the a gaps.

That leaves you susceptible to play-action over the middle unless you're bringing safeties down, but I think we see the S coming down a lot, with cover 1 and cover 0 most downs, especially early downs or run situation downs.

It leaves you susceptible to cutbacks and big plays, but I can live with giving up some big plays or even explosive scoring plays if that means the Ravens' offense isn't grinding down the field 4-5 yards at a time.

[alanm]

I've got a rare Monday off from work, so I'll be able to enjoy the entire game.

Now let's rip the heads off these Ratbirds, and shit down their necks!!!I gotta ****ing work tonight!! :banghead::mad::shake::spock: But I have the Dvr set. :thumb:

[Mahomes_Is_God]

Bound to happen at some point. I do hope the players are seeing these predictions and will have a chip on their shoulder tonight.

I just hope they play a lot better than last week. That shit was painful to watch. It was like they were all drunk.

[TribalElder]

Lets go!!!

[DRM08]

I just hope they play a lot better than last week. That shit was painful to watch. It was like they were all drunk.

It was very ugly. They'll need to play a lot better the next 4 games. The bright side is they got to feel some adversity in the 4th quarter. That's not the worst thing in the world.

[FloridaMan88]

Chiefs haven't scored a TD on their first offensive drive of the game since the Bears game last December... they are due for a fast start.

[DRM08]

That's pretty stupid, but I kind of expect stupid from Tucker when it comes to the Chiefs. They are built antithetically to his preferred style of football, and the Ravens line up with his preferred style.

I'm interested to see what Spagnuolo deploys. His scheme last year against the Ravens was really effective (it forced Jackson into taking a lot of deep shots, which he didn't hit) and would have looked even better save for the two literal prayers Jackson managed to connect with that led to points for the Ravens.

I think we'll see an aggressive approach to stopping the Ravens' rush attack... four-man front with the ends playing contain and blitzing a linebacker (and possibly two) into the a gaps.

That leaves you susceptible to play-action over the middle unless you're bringing safeties down, but I think we see the S coming down a lot, with cover 1 and cover 0 most downs, especially early downs or run situation downs.

It leaves you susceptible to cutbacks and big plays, but I can live with giving up some big plays or even explosive scoring plays if that means the Ravens' offense isn't grinding down the field 4-5 yards at a time.

Much rather see Baltimore score quickly than allow them to do 8-10 minute scoring drives.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I say fuck the crowd noise and just blast Metallica all game long. Play some One, Master of Puppets, For Whom the Bell Tolls, and maybe some Black Album. Now that would be a badass football game.

Nah man those turds get off to the white stripes for some reason. Shit isn't music at all. It's sub nickelback level awful.

[mililo4cpa]

Last I heard it sounded like Sammy is likely to play but I don't think it's been confirmed yet.

He was full practice on Saturday, but still listed on the injury report as questionable. I actually think that is a great sign, given the severity of the hit and the location.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I’ll be shocked if the Chiefs don’t keep this very close, especially after last week’s scare.

Predicting otherwise seems totally silly.

[wazu]

Don't forget last year when we played them Frank Clark was a walking corpse.

Could be huge. HUGE!

We also didn't have Tyreek.

[Mahomes_Is_God]

We also didn't have Tyreek.

Oh I totally forgot about that. That's a huge boost right there.

[mililo4cpa]

Only thing that worries me in this game is easy scores for the Ravens.

Hollywood Brown CANNOT get behind Thornhill. He has to be on his game tonight.

If we don't give them any easy scores, and Lamar doesn't just run wild scrambling on our linebackers, we got this.

No 60 yard broken coverages, no 40 yard scrambles.

Even with that, it's Mahomes. We'll be fine. LMAO

I think the Chiefs D has to make Lamar uncomfortable. When he has time in the pocket, or isn't under duress on designed roll-outs, he has enough talent to find and hit the open guys. The moment he's under pressure, he's done for the most part (I suppose most QBs not named Pat Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers are), and his instincts always go to "run".....

Of course, he's really good escaping that pressure, so if we can somehow keep him somewhat contained and in the pocket, but with hands in his face, I don't think he can beat us. Of course, this assumes we do a reasonable job stopping the run. All of this is easier said than done, but we don't need a dominant defensive effort, we really only need a few stops along the way.

And while history isn't indicative of the here and now, we have plenty of evidence that Lamar folds in the biggest moments. Maybe that's changed with a little more experience, but who knows (hell, it was only three games and a long offseason with no preseason ago - not sure how you fix "mental" in three games).

The one thing I do know is the Chiefs have a guy that elevates the team at the most critical and crucial moments...It's a proven commodity. Regular seasons wins are great, and Lamar Jackson is a great talent, but mental toughness is hard to teach. You either have it or you don't, and while I think Lamar is definitely better with his experience now v. 1.5 years ago, He still reverts back to who he is when facing immense pressure: a very talented runner with very inaccurate and flawed throwing mechanics.

[Hammock Parties]

We also didn't have Tyreek.

lol

get ready to bomb these fucks

[SuperBowl4]

:arrow::arrow::arrow::arrow:LET'S KICK SOME RAVEN ASS!:arrow::arrow::arrow::arrow:

[Munson]

2018

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2019

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[Pasta Little Brioni]

Dumbest chant making them the worst fan base in sports

[PHOG]

LET'S SMASH THESE UPSTARTS ONCE AND FOR ALL! rochambeau

CHIEFS!! :arrow::arrow::arrow::arrow:

[MMXcalibur]

Winning this game would be super awesome.

[ROYC75]

I say **** the crowd noise and just blast Metallica all game long. Play some One, Master of Puppets, For Whom the Bell Tolls, and maybe some Black Album. Now that would be a badass football game.

:huh:

Metallica is not all that to all people!

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Didn’t realize that Watkins was a FP on Saturday?

He good.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Mentally preparing myself for the Peters interception that feels likely.

Also prepared to watch him give up 150+ yards.

[Bewbies]

Much rather see Baltimore score quickly than allow them to do 8-10 minute scoring drives.

You want to get up 14 on these guys and take away what they do best.

[duncan_idaho]

2018

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2019

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Thanks for posting.

Those 2019 highlights are telling. Yeah, the Ravens closed to within 5 points with 2 minutes to go... but they trailed 30-13 entering the 4th and scored 9 of their final 16 points on two drives that were extended by literal jump balls on 3rd and forever and 4th down.

Game wasn't as close as the final, and KC will be lining up with much better offensive personnel in this one (Clyde Edwards-Helaire is a major upgrade from Darrel Williams/Darwin Thompson, which the Chiefs were forced to roll with in the second half, will have Eric Fisher and Tyreek Hill, non-gimpy Mahomes).

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Easiest remaining schedule:<br>1. Chiefs<br>2. Saints<br>3. Chargers<br>4. Ravens<br>5. Cowboys<br><br>Hardest remaining schedule:<br>1. Eagles<br>2. 49ers<br>3. Bengals<br>4. Rams<br>5 Panthers</p>&mdash; Mike Clay (@MikeClayNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeClayNFL/status/1310586325209415680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[htismaqe]

Thanks for posting.

Those 2019 highlights are telling. Yeah, the Ravens closed to within 5 points with 2 minutes to go... but they trailed 30-13 entering the 4th and scored 9 of their final 16 points on two drives that were extended by literal jump balls on 3rd and forever and 4th down.

Game wasn't as close as the final, and KC will be lining up with much better offensive personnel in this one (Clyde Edwards-Helaire is a major upgrade from Darrel Williams/Darwin Thompson, which the Chiefs were forced to roll with in the second half, will have Eric Fisher and Tyreek Hill, non-gimpy Mahomes).

Exactly.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Top 5 teams in blitz % per Pro Football Reference <br><br>1. Ravens 47.1% *<br>2. Steelers 46%<br>3. Chiefs 33.3% * <br>4. Dolphins 33.3%<br>5. Bills 32% <br><br>*Through two games</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1310612929964838912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[duncan_idaho]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Top 5 teams in blitz % per Pro Football Reference <br><br>1. Ravens 47.1% *<br>2. Steelers 46%<br>3. Chiefs 33.3% * <br>4. Dolphins 33.3%<br>5. Bills 32% <br><br>*Through two games</p>— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1310612929964838912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


It’s who they are defensively.

Do they stick with that and take their chances against Mahomes, who has been dynamite against the blitz, and leave speedsters like Hill and Hardman man-ned up? Or do they try to drastically alter what they do and rush 4/drop 7?

[Hammock Parties]

LMAO

Mahomes is going to rape them.

[smithandrew051]

It’s who they are defensively.

Do they stick with that and take their chances against Mahomes, who has been dynamite against the blitz, and leave speedsters like Hill and Hardman man-ned up? Or do they try to drastically alter what they do and rush 4/drop 7?

They have to keep blitzing. Otherwise, Mahomes will have all day to throw.

Peters and Humphrey are good, but they can’t cover forever. With their safety and third corner situation, they can’t rely on coverage.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

2018

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2019

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I've always thought that we were very fortunate to win the 2018 game (and we were fortunate to convert that 4th and 9), but Baltimore was pretty fortunate to even be in that position. They needed a long kick return that led to an easy TD and two short FGs missed by Butker to go to OT. Could've very easily been a 30-17 win in regulation.

[htismaqe]

They have to keep blitzing. Otherwise, Mahomes will have all day to throw.

Peters and Humphrey are good, but they can’t cover forever. With their safety and third corner situation, they can’t rely on coverage.

If they were to try rushing 4 and play coverage, CEH is going to kill them.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Easiest remaining schedule:<br>1. Chiefs<br>2. Saints<br>3. Chargers<br>4. Ravens<br>5. Cowboys<br><br>Hardest remaining schedule:<br>1. Eagles<br>2. 49ers<br>3. Bengals<br>4. Rams<br>5 Panthers</p>&mdash; Mike Clay (@MikeClayNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeClayNFL/status/1310586325209415680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wait...what?

The Chiefs play the Ravens, Bills, Bucs and Saints, all on the road. Plus the Patriots.

How could they possibly have the easiest remaining schedule?

[Coochie liquor]

Wait...what?

The Chiefs play the Ravens, Bills, Bucs and Saints, all on the road. Plus the Patriots.

How could they possibly have the easiest remaining schedule?

Yeah who tf has a harder schedule than that?

[htismaqe]

Wait...what?

The Chiefs play the Ravens, Bills, Bucs and Saints, all on the road. Plus the Patriots.

How could they possibly have the easiest remaining schedule?

Because the Chiefs are THAT good. :)

[Mecca]

Wait...what?

The Chiefs play the Ravens, Bills, Bucs and Saints, all on the road. Plus the Patriots.

How could they possibly have the easiest remaining schedule?

It's based on records the Saints are now 1-2...our division is crap etc. We also play the Jets and Dolphins, Panthers, Falcons etc.

[Mecca]

I'm now more confident the Chiefs win this game...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lamar has just been far more consistent than Mahomes this season and over the last 12 months <a href="https://t.co/GDv927Mp9O">pic.twitter.com/GDv927Mp9O</a></p>&mdash; Cian (@Cianaf) <a href="https://twitter.com/Cianaf/status/1310549197570138112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Based on this dudes past takes....yep...super confident.

[ModSocks]

If they were to try rushing 4 and play coverage, CEH is going to kill them.

Assuming Reid doesn't ignore CEH like he did vs the Chargers.

[htismaqe]

I'm now more confident the Chiefs win this game...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lamar has just been far more consistent than Mahomes this season and over the last 12 months <a href="https://t.co/GDv927Mp9O">pic.twitter.com/GDv927Mp9O</a></p>&mdash; Cian (@Cianaf) <a href="https://twitter.com/Cianaf/status/1310549197570138112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Based on this dudes past takes....yep...super confident.

It's all about consistency.

0-2 vs. Patrick Mahomes, 0-2 in the playoffs. That's pretty consistent.

[Mecca]

It's all about consistency.

0-2 vs. Patrick Mahomes, 0-2 in the playoffs. That's pretty consistent.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It’s rare I spend my day looking up at the clock waiting for a regular season game to start but tonight’s different. Two best QBs in the league and the Ravens match up so much better than they have in previous two games.</p>&mdash; Cian (@Cianaf) <a href="https://twitter.com/Cianaf/status/1310622163561410560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'd like to know how they match up better, it's the same team with worse safeties than last year.

[staylor26]

Going to be great when we lose a close game then we have to hear for weeks how Lamar is the best QB in the NFL when we know that’s horseshit.

Lamar would get more credit for winning tonight than Pat did for winning a SB and SB MVP. That’s how stupid people are.

[DRM08]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It’s rare I spend my day looking up at the clock waiting for a regular season game to start but tonight’s different. Two best QBs in the league and the Ravens match up so much better than they have in previous two games.</p>&mdash; Cian (@Cianaf) <a href="https://twitter.com/Cianaf/status/1310622163561410560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'd like to know how they match up better, it's the same team with worse safeties than last year.

At least he's admitting Mahomes is not a scrub. "Undraftable QB" according to this knucklehead in 2017.

[htismaqe]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It’s rare I spend my day looking up at the clock waiting for a regular season game to start but tonight’s different. Two best QBs in the league and the Ravens match up so much better than they have in previous two games.</p>&mdash; Cian (@Cianaf) <a href="https://twitter.com/Cianaf/status/1310622163561410560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'd like to know how they match up better, it's the same team with worse safeties than last year.

They will tell you the defensive line is better. Which is why almost 80% of their pressures come from someone in the back seven. :rolleyes:

[DRM08]

Going to be great when we lose a close game then we have to hear for weeks how Lamar is the best QB in the NFL when we know that’s horseshit.

Lamar would get more credit for winning tonight than Pat did for winning a SB and SB MVP. That’s how stupid people are.

If that means the Ravens end up overpaying him, you should embrace it.

[htismaqe]

Going to be great when we lose a close game then we have to hear for weeks how Lamar is the best QB in the NFL when we know that’s horseshit.

Lamar would get more credit for winning tonight than Pat did for winning a SB and SB MVP. That’s how stupid people are.

Yep. That's exactly what I've been talking about for weeks. The bar is so low for Lamar that if he wins tonight, it will be weeks before we hear anything else.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Can our LBs please make a fucking tackle. If not it’s gonna be a long night.

[Shoes]

Anyone else getting Rams vs Chiefs MNF vibes? Hoping for a different result but hoping this MNF game is epic.

[staylor26]

Yep. That's exactly what I've been talking about for weeks. The bar is so low for Lamar that if he wins tonight, it will be weeks before we hear anything else.

At this point, everything he does in the regular season is irrelevant. He’s won an MVP. I really don’t care what he does in the regular season until I see him do it in the playoffs.

[ModSocks]

My biggest worry is the Chiefs preparing for a blitz happy Ravens, and then the Ravens decide to play 7-8 in the secondary every snap, like hte Colts did last year.

The secret is out: The Chiefs want the big play every play. They don't want to drive down the field the hard way. And Andy Reid isn't going to let you force them to small ball. He's going to keep getting vertical on you no matter what coverage you're playing.

We'll see what Reid does, but i hope he has a plan ready in case the Ravens go all coverage on them.

[Mecca]

Isolate Queen in the run game is something we should do, he's a great athlete but has no desire to deal with big bodies.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Anyone else getting Rams vs Chiefs MNF vibes? Hoping for a different result but hoping this MNF game is epic.

With our defense that’s exactly how I see it.

[Mecca]

At this point, everything he does in the regular season is irrelevant. He’s won an MVP. I really don’t care what he does in the regular season until I see him do it in the playoffs.

It isn't even there for me, he plays like shit when they're behind too, Lamar literally needs to lead from start to finish or things go to shit fast.

[eDave]

LMAO

Mahomes is going to rape them.

I have no doubt his competitive nature will shine through.

[ModSocks]

It isn't even there for me, he plays like shit when they're behind too, Lamar literally needs to lead from start to finish or things go to shit fast.

With our slow starts, he just may get that early lead.

But they better be careful, they don't wanna see a "let them nits hang" Mahomes.

They're better off hoping Mahomes stays in game management mode.

[htismaqe]

Can our LBs please make a fucking tackle. If not it’s gonna be a long night.

The Ravens rushed for over 200 yards last year. It's not really going to matter in the end. The Ravens can't keep up. They HAVE to get stops on defense or it's just not going to matter.

[DRM08]

My biggest worry is the Chiefs preparing for a blitz happy Ravens, and then the Ravens decide to play 7-8 in the secondary every snap, like hte Colts did last year.

The secret is out: The Chiefs want the big play every play. They don't want to drive down the field the hard way. And Andy Reid isn't going to let you force them to small ball. He's going to keep getting vertical on you no matter what coverage you're playing.

We'll see what Reid does, but i hope he has a plan ready in case the Ravens go all coverage on them.

They did plenty of dink & dunk against Houston. I would not mind seeing that approach again. Turn the tables on Baltimore by running a ton of clock on scoring drives.

[htismaqe]

Anyone else getting Rams vs Chiefs MNF vibes? Hoping for a different result but hoping this MNF game is epic.

The Ravens can't score like that. They're not built for it.

[crispystl]

My biggest worry is the Chiefs preparing for a blitz happy Ravens, and then the Ravens decide to play 7-8 in the secondary every snap, like hte Colts did last year.

The secret is out: The Chiefs want the big play every play. They don't want to drive down the field the hard way. And Andy Reid isn't going to let you force them to small ball. He's going to keep getting vertical on you no matter what coverage you're playing.

We'll see what Reid does, but i hope he has a plan ready in case the Ravens go all coverage on them.

We'll be fine. He knows what's he's doing.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Getting Pennel back will be huge!! He can stop Ingram and dobbins

[crispystl]

lol

get ready to bomb these ****s

No Tryeek in that game last year and they had Earl Thomas.
Now in this one we have Tyreek and there's no Thomas. That's a pretty significant swing there.

[smithandrew051]

My biggest worry is the Chiefs preparing for a blitz happy Ravens, and then the Ravens decide to play 7-8 in the secondary every snap, like hte Colts did last year.

The secret is out: The Chiefs want the big play every play. They don't want to drive down the field the hard way. And Andy Reid isn't going to let you force them to small ball. He's going to keep getting vertical on you no matter what coverage you're playing.

We'll see what Reid does, but i hope he has a plan ready in case the Ravens go all coverage on them.

The Chiefs also didn’t have Hill, Watkins, CEH, or Eric Fisher in that game. Kelce also had one of the worst games of his career.

The only reason the Colts were successful is because Byron Pringle was our number 1 receiver in that game.

[MahomesMagic]

If you think about how bad our lbs are you would think Ravens could run at will. I do think that Spags has the right philosophy against Ravens O. You can't read and react. Instead, you need to attack immediately upfield and shoot through gaps. If you guess wrong, oh well. Better to make a big stop, big play and disrupt their rhythm.

[htismaqe]

The Chiefs also didn’t have Hill, Watkins, CEH, or Eric Fisher in that game. Kelce also had one of the worst games of his career.

The only reason the Colts were successful is because Byron Pringle was our number 1 receiver in that game.

Exactly.

[DRM08]

The Chiefs also didn’t have Hill, Watkins, CEH, or Eric Fisher in that game. Kelce also had one of the worst games of his career.

The only reason the Colts were successful is because Byron Pringle was our number 1 receiver in that game.

Even then, the Colts game was going fine until Mahomes' ankle issue got re-aggravated. After that, the offense went to poop. Same thing with the Texans game as well.

[htismaqe]

If you think about how bad our lbs are you would think Ravens could run at will. I do think that Spags has the right philosophy against Ravens O. You can't read and react. Instead, you need to attack immediately upfield and shoot through gaps. If you guess wrong, oh well. Better to make a big stop, big play and disrupt their rhythm.

Did you watch last year's game?

The last thing you want to do is shoot gaps, that's how Lamar gets loose for big gains.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Players entering the final year of their contract in 2021: Fisher, Schwartz, LDT, Rankin, Damien Williams, Nnadi, Mathieu, Watts. <br><br>Based on early returns of 2020 draft class, it should help soften the blow in some areas. They&#39;re going to have to do it again in 2021.</p>&mdash; Kent Swanson (@kent_swanson) <a href="https://twitter.com/kent_swanson/status/1310625724211097606?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[SuperBowl4]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/0f3ad9cf7d007b8cd0f5384385d094d1/tenor.gif?itemid=5407664Been wait'n all covid for Monday night! :evil:

[Marcellus]

My biggest worry is the Chiefs preparing for a blitz happy Ravens, and then the Ravens decide to play 7-8 in the secondary every snap, like the Colts did last year.

The secret is out: The Chiefs want the big play every play. They don't want to drive down the field the hard way. And Andy Reid isn't going to let you force them to small ball. He's going to keep getting vertical on you no matter what coverage you're playing.

We'll see what Reid does, but i hope he has a plan ready in case the Ravens go all coverage on them.

This is exactly what the Texans tried and it killed them on the ground.

[Marcellus]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Players entering the final year of their contract in 2021: Fisher, Schwartz, LDT, Rankin, Damien Williams, Nnadi, Mathieu, Watts. <br><br>Based on early returns of 2020 draft class, it should help soften the blow in some areas. They&#39;re going to have to do it again in 2021.</p>&mdash; Kent Swanson (@kent_swanson) <a href="https://twitter.com/kent_swanson/status/1310625724211097606?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Why are they talking about 2022?

[htismaqe]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Players entering the final year of their contract in 2021: Fisher, Schwartz, LDT, Rankin, Damien Williams, Nnadi, Mathieu, Watts. <br><br>Based on early returns of 2020 draft class, it should help soften the blow in some areas. They&#39;re going to have to do it again in 2021.</p>&mdash; Kent Swanson (@kent_swanson) <a href="https://twitter.com/kent_swanson/status/1310625724211097606?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MAHOMO with yet another completely irrelevant post.

[neech]

how do i watch this game on my iphone? Where do I go to.

[Mecca]

how do i watch this game on my iphone? Where do I go to.

Watching ants play football is a fun experiment I guess...

[pugsnotdrugs19]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It’s rare I spend my day looking up at the clock waiting for a regular season game to start but tonight’s different. Two best QBs in the league and the Ravens match up so much better than they have in previous two games.</p>&mdash; Cian (@Cianaf) <a href="https://twitter.com/Cianaf/status/1310622163561410560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'd like to know how they match up better, it's the same team with worse safeties than last year.

Someone needs to tell Cian that Baltimore and Jackson have never played the Chiefs with all of their offensive weapons at one time.

Tonight they get the full arsenal, and they haven’t even been able to beat the injury plagued versions of this offense.

[MahiMike]

Hopefully Pennel got his roid shot.

[BlackOp]

The Chiefs also didn’t have Hill, Watkins, CEH, or Eric Fisher in that game. Kelce also had one of the worst games of his career.

The only reason the Colts were successful is because Byron Pringle was our number 1 receiver in that game.

And the only reason they lost was because McCoy was running with a "free fumbles" sign on his back...the one he lost in the red zone. :shake:

[Eleazar]

It'll probably be a whale of a game. The Ravens don't have the edge rushers the Chargers have (had) but we'll have to see how our offensive line has been able to adjust to what the Chargers did to them.

There's always going to be some randomness between two of the better teams in the league, especially when you have offenses that generate a lot of big plays.

I expect a slugfest like we had with the Rams two years ago.

[Eleazar]

MAHOMO with yet another completely irrelevant post.

It's nice to be in a position where we have an elite team and the predictions of impending doom are that the cap might whittle away at the roster, not that the cupboard is bare AND we have cap trouble looming.

[eDave]

Who is Cian?

[htismaqe]

It'll probably be a whale of a game. The Ravens don't have the edge rushers the Chargers have (had) but we'll have to see how our offensive line has been able to adjust to what the Chargers did to them.

There's always going to be some randomness between two of the better teams in the league, especially when you have offenses that generate a lot of big plays.

I expect a slugfest like we had with the Rams two years ago.

The Ravens aren't going to score like that. They can't score like that.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

With Pennel back Wharton better be active as well. Dude is a beast

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I can&#39;t pretend the Chiefs had a good game defending the run Sunday but LOOK AT THE GROWN MAN STRENGTH FROM TERSHAWN WHARTON <a href="https://t.co/lRQ8sRhT25">pic.twitter.com/lRQ8sRhT25</a></p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1309892032744300546?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mecca]

With Pennel back Wharton better be active as well. Dude is a beast

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I can&#39;t pretend the Chiefs had a good game defending the run Sunday but LOOK AT THE GROWN MAN STRENGTH FROM TERSHAWN WHARTON <a href="https://t.co/lRQ8sRhT25">pic.twitter.com/lRQ8sRhT25</a></p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1309892032744300546?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Uh Saunders is out so he would be, Braxton Hoyett is the guy that's out.

[Mecca]

Although as of right now the Chiefs haven't activated Pennel for this game.

[DRM08]

Someone needs to tell Cian that Baltimore and Jackson have never played the Chiefs with all of their offensive weapons at one time.

Tonight they get the full arsenal, and they haven’t even been able to beat the injury plagued versions of this offense.

The full arsenal has not looked very sharp so far this year.

[Red Dawg]

If we lose this one the Pats game could be a must win. We need at keast the 2 seed.

[htismaqe]

The full arsenal has not looked very sharp so far this year.

With an abbreviated camp, no preseason, and the hangover from winning the fucking Super Bowl.

I can't believe the amount of pessimism here today.

[DRM08]

With an abbreviated camp, no preseason, and the hangover from winning the ****ing Super Bowl.

I can't believe the amount of pessimism here today.

Not pessimism, just the reality of how they've looked so far. The good news is they have room to improve. You would rather get better as the season goes along instead of being a team that looks incredible the first few weeks and then drops back down to reality later in the season.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

With Pennel back Wharton better be active as well. Dude is a beast

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I can&#39;t pretend the Chiefs had a good game defending the run Sunday but LOOK AT THE GROWN MAN STRENGTH FROM TERSHAWN WHARTON <a href="https://t.co/lRQ8sRhT25">pic.twitter.com/lRQ8sRhT25</a></p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1309892032744300546?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Seth is dumb. I love Wharton’s potential but his own teammate took him out.

[htismaqe]

Not pessimism, just the reality of how they've looked so far. The good news is they have room to improve. You would rather get better as the season goes along instead of being a team that looks incredible the first few weeks and then drops back down to reality later in the season.

Yep.

There's just no such thing as a must-win game this early in the season, especially when you have Mahomes.

They're going to be fine no matter what happens.

It's just the hand-wringing over the defense that kills me - this is the EXACT thing that happened before last year's game and we all saw how that turned out.

[DRM08]

Yep.

There's just no such thing as a must-win game this early in the season, especially when you have Mahomes.

They're going to be fine no matter what happens.

It's just the hand-wringing over the defense that kills me - this is the EXACT thing that happened before last year's game and we all saw how that turned out.

It was an impressive performance. But it was last year. They could just as easily do the same thing again tonight or get absolutely torched. It could go either way.

[ChiefBlueCFC]

With Pennel back Wharton better be active as well. Dude is a beast

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I can&#39;t pretend the Chiefs had a good game defending the run Sunday but LOOK AT THE GROWN MAN STRENGTH FROM TERSHAWN WHARTON <a href="https://t.co/lRQ8sRhT25">pic.twitter.com/lRQ8sRhT25</a></p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1309892032744300546?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Might see a DLine of Clark Wharton Pennel Jones quite a few times

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Seth is dumb. I love Wharton’s potential but his own teammate took him out.

Dude knows nearly absolutely nothing about football

[eDave]

250 fans tonight.

[smithandrew051]

Might see a DLine of Clark Wharton Pennel Jones quite a few times

I’d like to see a NASCAR package of Clark-Jones-Charlton-Danna

[FloridaMan88]

Has Lamar Jackson led a successful comeback yet from a legit deficit (not just being down by one score early in a game)?

Jump out to a lead early and force Lamar to play from behind with forced passing situations.

[htismaqe]

It was an impressive performance. But it was last year. They could just as easily do the same thing again tonight or get absolutely torched. It could go either way.

The defense last year wasn't impressive at all.

[duncan_idaho]

Not pessimism, just the reality of how they've looked so far. The good news is they have room to improve. You would rather get better as the season goes along instead of being a team that looks incredible the first few weeks and then drops back down to reality later in the season.


You don’t think the offense looked sharp against Houston?

It certainly did.

All this pessimism based on the Chargers game is weird, IMO; San Diego specifically is designed to match up against KC’s offense.

[DRM08]

You don’t think the offense looked sharp against Houston?

It certainly did.

All this pessimism based on the Chargers game is weird, IMO; San Diego specifically is designed to match up against KC’s offense.

Houston game was good, but could have been better. Given the weapons on the Chiefs, they have a very high ceiling. I don't think they were anywhere close to that ceiling against Houston.

[wazu]

If we lose this one the Pats game could be a must win. We need at keast the 2 seed.

If we don't get the 1 seed, it doesn't much matter what seed we get.

[smithandrew051]

If we don't get the 1 seed, it doesn't much matter what seed we get.

And that’s why I hate the new format. I think we’ll see way more teams resting starters at the end of the season.

[duncan_idaho]

Houston game was good, but could have been better. Given the weapons on the Chiefs, they have a very high ceiling. I don't think they were anywhere close to that ceiling against Houston.


They put up 34 points pretty effortlessly and could have easily put up 10 or so more had they kept the foot on the gas.

I mean, it wasn’t a mind-melting performance, but it was well-executed and efficient.

[Ravens213]

The Ravens can't score like that. They're not built for it.

The ravens had the number 1 scoring offense last year at 33 ppg.

[Mecca]

The ravens had the number 1 scoring offense last year at 33 ppg.

They aren't built to play in shootouts,those numbers were built against garbage teams. There's a reason Lamar doesn't win games when he's trailing at half.

[htismaqe]

The ravens had the number 1 scoring offense last year at 33 ppg.

The Rams put 54 points on the board in that game and only had one possession longer than 4 minutes. Stop quoting stats and watch the actual games.

[FloridaMan88]

The ravens had the number 1 scoring offense last year at 33 ppg.

That 33 PPG scoring average didn't help you in your losses when you got down early and Lamar Jackson was forced to pass the ball.

That includes only scoring 12 points in your playoff loss to Tennessee.

[smithandrew051]

Jackson is a total front runner as a passer.

Video game stats against bad teams. Pretty meh agains the good teams.

[DRM08]

There's a reason Lamar doesn't win games when he's trailing at half.

That's a pretty small sample size to judge the guy. Ravens have been a pretty dominant team the last 19 games.

[New World Order]

If we lose this one the Pats game could be a must win. We need at keast the 2 seed.

There is no must-win. There’s no home field advantage this year.

We just want them to be healthy and in the playoffs

[Mecca]

That's a pretty small sample size to judge the guy. Ravens have been a pretty dominant team the last 19 games.

All his numbers point to needing to play from ahead, loses when trailing at half, opposing teams tops 25 points and no wins.

[redfan]

Less than five hours to go, Go Chiefs!!!!

[BlackOp]

Ravens have more to prove than the Chiefs...Mahomes has excelled in high stakes games...Lamar hasn't. 4-1 postseason to 0-2. Mahomes only loss was in OT where he didn't get to touch the ball..

The onus is on them...and they are facing a SB team looking rebound from a below average performance. Chiefs arent comfortable...and weren't all week. Should be a great game...

Acting like last week's game against LA was the norm is a mistake...KC could have easily put up 10+ more on the Texans. Reid doesn't like to pile on other HCs....it's why he's liked around the league.

Really think they are just going to use basic running plays inside the 4...3 straight times if the game were close? They've never done that in the Mahomes era...

[Ravens213]

They aren't built to play in shootouts,those numbers were built against garbage teams. There's a reason Lamar doesn't win games when he's trailing at half.

He’s 21-3. You’re acting like he’s a .500 qb. The sample size is insanely small.

[Ravens213]

Jackson is a total front runner as a passer.

Video game stats against bad teams. Pretty meh agains the good teams.

Common regular season opponents last year:
Texans - we scored 41 you guys scored 23
Patriots - we scored 37 you scored 24

Look the only reason I’m on here is the insistence of your fan base to attack Lamar like there can’t be two perennial mvp caliber players in the nfl at the same time. He’s 23 years old and is already one of the best players in the league.

[Mecca]

Common regular season opponents last year:
Texans - we scored 41 you guys scored 23
Patriots - we scored 37 you scored 24

Look the only reason I’m on here is the insistence of your fan base to attack Lamar like there can’t be two perennial mvp caliber players in the nfl at the same time. He’s 23 years old and is already one of the best players in the league.

He's a better runner but cmon 3100 yards is pedestrian as fuck. This style makes you limited, you have to play from ahead, you need a very specific scheme and he'll likely get hurt playing this way.

[Ravens213]

Ravens have more to prove than the Chiefs...Mahomes has excelled in high stakes games...Lamar hasn't. 4-1 postseason to 0-2. Mahomes only loss was in OT where he didn't get to touch the ball..

The onus is on them...and they are facing a SB team looking rebound from a below average performance. Chiefs arent comfortable...and weren't all week. Should be a great game...

Acting like last week's game against LA was the norm is a mistake...KC could have easily put up 10+ more on the Texans. Reid doesn't like to pile on other HCs....it's why he's liked around the league.

Really think they are just going to use basic running plays inside the 4...3 straight times if the game was close? They've never done that in the Mahomes era...

Agree with this 100%. Ravens have all the pressure, specifically Lamar, on them in this game bc of the history.

[smithandrew051]

Common regular season opponents last year:
Texans - we scored 41 you guys scored 23
Patriots - we scored 37 you scored 24

Look the only reason I’m on here is the insistence of your fan base to attack Lamar like there can’t be two perennial mvp caliber players in the nfl at the same time. He’s 23 years old and is already one of the best players in the league.

Completely ignored my post. I specifically said “as a passer”, which is absolutely true to this point.

Here are his passing stats against the better teams he played last season:

KC: 267, 0 TDs, 0 Ints, 70.6 Rating
PIT: 161, 1 TD, 3 Ints, 54.9 Rating
SEA: 143, 0 TD, 0 Ints, 69.4 Rating (45% Comp)
NE: 163, 1 TD, 0 Ints, 107.7 Rating
SF: 105, 1 TD, 0 Ints, 86.3 Rating
Buf: 145, 3 TD, 1 Ints 102.5
Ten: 365, 1 TD, 2 Ints, 63.2 Rating (59 attempts, 52% Comp)

A couple of okay passing performances against NE and Buffalo, but a lot of meh in there too.

Yes, he was great against the Browns in Week 1. He was also great against the Browns in Week 15 last year too. Just like he was great against the Dolphins, Texans, Rams, and Jets last year.

[Ravens213]

He's a better runner but cmon 3100 yards is pedestrian as ****. This style makes you limited, you have to play from ahead, you need a very specific scheme and he'll likely get hurt playing this way.

It’s pedestrian because we don’t pass as much. His completion % and td rate are both elite. Down field passing (20+ yds down field) is definitely an area he needed to improve on last year and, it’s early, but so far he’s much better with the deep ball.

[FloridaMan88]

Common regular season opponents last year:
Texans - we scored 41 you guys scored 23
Patriots - we scored 37 you scored 24

Look the only reason I’m on here is the insistence of your fan base to attack Lamar like there can’t be two perennial mvp caliber players in the nfl at the same time. He’s 23 years old and is already one of the best players in the league.

Common postseason opponent last year:

Titans - Chiefs scored 35 en route to winning the Super Bowl. The Ravens scored 12 and their season ended.

[htismaqe]

Common regular season opponents last year:
Texans - we scored 41 you guys scored 23
Patriots - we scored 37 you scored 24

Look the only reason I’m on here is the insistence of your fan base to attack Lamar like there can’t be two perennial mvp caliber players in the nfl at the same time. He’s 23 years old and is already one of the best players in the league.

Let's talk again in 5 years when he still hasn't won shit and he can't run around like he does now.

[htismaqe]

It’s pedestrian because we don’t pass as much. His completion % and td rate are both elite. Down field passing (20+ yds down field) is definitely an area he needed to improve on last year and, it’s early, but so far he’s much better with the deep ball.

Like you said, small sample size. Of course he's efficient. He doesn't have to pass as much.

[Ravens213]

Completely ignored my post. I specifically said “as a passer”, which is absolutely true to this point.

Here are his passing stats against the better teams he played last season:

KC: 267, 0 TDs, 0 Ints, 70.6 Rating
PIT: 161, 1 TD, 3 Ints, 54.9 Rating
SEA: 143, 0 TD, 0 Ints, 69.4 Rating (45% Comp)
NE: 163, 1 TD, 0 Ints, 107.7 Rating
SF: 105, 1 TD, 0 Ints, 86.3 Rating
Buf: 145, 3 TD, 1 Ints 102.5
Ten: 365, 1 TD, 2 Ints, 63.2 Rating (59 attempts, 52% Comp)

A couple of okay passing performances against NE and Buffalo, but a lot of meh in there too.

Yes, he was great against the Browns in Week 1. He was also great against the Browns in Week 15 last year too. Just like he was great against the Dolphins, Texans, Rams, and Jets last year.

Everyone plays better against worse competition, not gonna argue that fact. An important note, that I’m sure will be received well bc it’s technically an excuse, is that the Seattle and 49ers games were played in essentially hurricanes. You could hardly see much less throw the ball downfield. So we did what we do best and ran the hell outta the ball.

It’s crazy that I have to convince people that Lamar is a good passer but here we are.

[Mecca]

Lamar is gonna plant and blow his ACL, that shit happens when you run the way he does, hell Watson had it happen in practice.

[AdolfOliverBush]

Common regular season opponents last year:
Texans - we scored 41 you guys scored 23
Patriots - we scored 37 you scored 24

Look the only reason I’m on here is the insistence of your fan base to attack Lamar like there can’t be two perennial mvp caliber players in the nfl at the same time. He’s 23 years old and is already one of the best players in the league.

Lamar is a decent QB/RB, but we've seen this movie before, and we know how it ends. He will injure a knee, a foot, or an achilles, and he'll never be the same player again, because his arm isn't good enough on its own.

[Mecca]

Everyone plays better against worse competition, not gonna argue that fact. An important note, that I’m sure will be received well bc it’s technically an excuse, is that the Seattle and 49ers games were played in essentially hurricanes. You could hardly see much less throw the ball downfield. So we did what we do best and ran the hell outta the ball.

It’s crazy that I have to convince people that Lamar is a good passer but here we are.

I'd call him an average passer, if he fucked up his knee and had to play from the pocket without running he wouldn't be successful.

[Ravens213]

Like you said, small sample size. Of course he's efficient. He doesn't have to pass as much.

I don’t think that’s how percentages work at all.

[htismaqe]

Everyone plays better against worse competition, not gonna argue that fact. An important note, that I’m sure will be received well bc it’s technically an excuse, is that the Seattle and 49ers games were played in essentially hurricanes. You could hardly see much less throw the ball downfield. So we did what we do best and ran the hell outta the ball.

It’s crazy that I have to convince people that Lamar is a good passer but here we are.

So is he a good passer? Or is he "one of the best in the league"?

You know there's a BIG difference right?

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Lamar has been really fucking good. I’m tired of all these chiefs fans saying he’s not. He’s a top 5 QB in the NFL. He has improved a lot this year. He isn’t taking as many hits because he’s throwing more and his completion percentage is 77%. However Lamar doesn’t do so well when the lights are the brightest. He is 0-2 he Mahomes and 0-2 in the first round of the playoffs they have played. It’s gonna be a good game but Chiefs 34- Ravens 30

[smithandrew051]

Everyone plays better against worse competition, not gonna argue that fact. An important note, that I’m sure will be received well bc it’s technically an excuse, is that the Seattle and 49ers games were played in essentially hurricanes. You could hardly see much less throw the ball downfield. So we did what we do best and ran the hell outta the ball.

It’s crazy that I have to convince people that Lamar is a good passer but here we are.

Jackson hasn’t proven himself as a passer against a true contender or in the postseason. Until he does, it’s absolutely fair to question if he’s a good passer.

Just like it was absolutely fair to question if Mahomes could win “the big one” until he did.

[htismaqe]

Lamar has been really fucking good. I’m tired of all these chiefs fans saying he’s not. He’s a top 5 QB in the NFL. He has improved a lot this year. He isn’t taking as many hits because he’s throwing more and his completion percentage is 77%. However Lamar doesn’t do so well when the lights are the brightest. He is 0-2 he Mahomes and 0-2 in the first round of the playoffs they have played. It’s gonna be a good game but Chiefs 34- Ravens 30

ROFL

[htismaqe]

I don’t think that’s how percentages work at all.

The guy plays in a scheme that is custom-tailored to his skill set. You couldn't just drop Lamar Jackson onto any team in the league and have him play the way he does now.

Patrick Mahomes, on the other hand...

[Mecca]

You're losing by 6 with 2 minutes left, who do you want? Jackson isn't even in my top 10 for this and to me that is the mark of great QBs.

[Coochie liquor]

Houston game was good, but could have been better. Given the weapons on the Chiefs, they have a very high ceiling. I don't think they were anywhere close to that ceiling against Houston.

While true, we didn’t have to unpack much from the playbook. We were able to run at will and set the tone. I think Andy has put as little as possible on tape heading into this game. Tonight we wear that defense out. They’re gonna be more gassed than LA was end of the game last week.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

You're losing by 6 with 2 minutes left, who do you want? Jackson isn't even in my top 10 for this and to me that is the mark of great QBs.

Mahomes Wilson and Rodgers only three QBs I’d want

[Ravens213]

So is he a good passer? Or is he "one of the best in the league"?

You know there's a BIG difference right?

Right now he’s a good passer, I’d say top 7 in the league. People here seem to think he’s a bottom tier passer though.

[smithandrew051]

Everyone plays better against worse competition, not gonna argue that fact. An important note, that I’m sure will be received well bc it’s technically an excuse, is that the Seattle and 49ers games were played in essentially hurricanes. You could hardly see much less throw the ball downfield. So we did what we do best and ran the hell outta the ball.

It’s crazy that I have to convince people that Lamar is a good passer but here we are.

You were comparing results against common opponents earlier.

Any reason why you didn’t compare stats for Mahomes and Jackson against the Titans last year?

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Right now he’s a good passer, I’d say top 7 in the league. People here seem to think he’s a bottom tier passer though.

Not me. Lamar has improved a lot on his passing. He’s a great person and a great qb. It’s gonna be a tough game tonight

[htismaqe]

Right now he’s a good passer, I’d say top 7 in the league. People here seem to think he’s a bottom tier passer though.

Here's the thing. When you come here posting hyperbole, you're going to get hyperbole back.

The more people try to say he's the best QB in the league, the more fans of guys like Mahomes, Rodgers, and Wilson are going to downplay Jackson's accomplishments.

[FloridaMan88]

You're losing by 6 with 2 minutes left, who do you want? Jackson isn't even in my top 10 for this and to me that is the mark of great QBs.

It would probably be easier to list the QB's I would take Lamar Jackson over in that situation.

Trublowsky and Nathan Peterman... that's about it.

[htismaqe]

Not me. Lamar has improved a lot on his passing. He’s a great person and a great qb. It’s gonna be a tough game tonight

ROFL

[pugsnotdrugs19]

If the goal is to be healthy in the playoffs (and it is), we can’t downplay the potential of earning a bye. Those are critical rest days and we’ve saw that the past two seasons.

[Ravens213]

The guy plays in a scheme that is custom-tailored to his skill set. You couldn't just drop Lamar Jackson onto any team in the league and have him play the way he does now.

Patrick Mahomes, on the other hand...

Definitely agree with this. Again not trying to compare Mahomes to Lamar... is that where this comes from? LJ steals some attention away from your guy and suddenly a fan base turns on the shiny new toy everyone loves? That’s gotta be it right? I would understand that.

[Ravens213]

Not me. Lamar has improved a lot on his passing. He’s a great person and a great qb. It’s gonna be a tough game tonight

There we go Mahomo. We can be friends. Just don’t touch me or anything

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Definitely agree with this. Again not trying to compare Mahomes to Lamar... is that where this comes from? LJ steals some attention away from your guy and suddenly a fan base turns on the shiny new toy everyone loves? That’s gotta be it right? I would understand that.

Do you think Mahomes would have the same success in Baltimore if he was their QB and how about Lamar in KC?

[ptlyon]

I would like your crab cake recipe Ravens213

[smithandrew051]

There we go Mahomo. We can be friends. Just don’t touch me or anything

He won’t touch you, but be prepared for plenty of embedded tweets that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

There we go Mahomo. We can be friends. Just don’t touch me or anything

No we cool, I don’t do anything weird! Everyone likes me being here

[Mecca]

Definitely agree with this. Again not trying to compare Mahomes to Lamar... is that where this comes from? LJ steals some attention away from your guy and suddenly a fan base turns on the shiny new toy everyone loves? That’s gotta be it right? I would understand that.

The media is super interested in creating these QB rivalries, Mahomes/Watson Mahomes/Jackson.

To this point until those guys stop shitting the bed in the playoffs there is no rivalry.

[BWillie]

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Really? How? We haven't even played Baltimore, Tennessee or New England yet.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Do you think Mahomes would have the same success in Baltimore if he was their QB and how about Lamar in KC?

This is a silly conversation to even try to have.

Baltimore has built their entire scheme and offensive personnel to fit what they do, aligning with Lamar’s style. Kansas City has done the same to fit what Mahomes does.

If you simply trade them over, neither has the set-up that truly would allow them to play at their peak levels.

[Ravens213]

It would probably be easier to list the QB's I would take Lamar Jackson over in that situation.

Trublowsky and Nathan Peterman... that's about it.

You’re an insane person. More stats that people will inevitably make excuses for as to why they don’t tell the whole story.

Lamar in 2019 when trailing less than 4 minutes to go:
15/18 208 yds 2td 0int 151 passer rating

[Ravens213]

This is a silly conversation to even try to have.

Baltimore has built their entire scheme and offensive personnel to fit what they do, aligning with Lamar’s style. Kansas City has done the same to fit what Mahomes does.

If you simply trade them over, neither has the set-up that truly would allow them to play at their peak levels.

Yeah they would both be much worse.

[DRM08]

Definitely agree with this. Again not trying to compare Mahomes to Lamar... is that where this comes from? LJ steals some attention away from your guy and suddenly a fan base turns on the shiny new toy everyone loves? That’s gotta be it right? I would understand that.

That's exactly the issue. But don't worry, plenty of fans around the league try to put down Mahomes as well. They're both great players. Hopefully it's a good, competitive game in the 4th quarter. That's all you can ask as a football fan in general.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

You’re an insane person. More stats that people will inevitably make excuses for as to why they don’t tell the whole story.

Lamar in 2019 when trailing less than 4 minutes to go:
15/18 208 yds 2td 0int 151 passer rating

Why do people continue to underestimate Lamar?

[Ravens213]

The media is super interested in creating these QB rivalries, Mahomes/Watson Mahomes/Jackson.

To this point until those guys stop shitting the bed in the playoffs there is no rivalry.

I agree the ravens need to prove themselves on the playoffs before this turns into a rivalry but it’s inevitable. Again Lamar is 23, won the unanimous mvp when he was 22 for most of the season. Think he’s pretty good.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

It got lost in the shuffle the other day, but I mentioned that on the Chiefs website there were 2-3 photos from practice this week that included Gay on the field with the starters.

I’m just sayin’...

[Ravens213]

That's exactly the issue. But don't worry, plenty of fans around the league try to put down Mahomes as well. They're both great players. Hopefully it's a good, competitive game in the 4th quarter. That's all you can ask as a football fan in general.

Yup! Hope everyone stays healthy and this is just an appetizer for the rematch in the afc championship.

[FloridaMan88]

You’re an insane person. More stats that people will inevitably make excuses for as to why they don’t tell the whole story.

Lamar in 2019 when trailing less than 4 minutes to go:
15/18 208 yds 2td 0int 151 passer rating

And the Ravens lost all three of those games.

You conveniently left out the 0-3 record in your listing of stats.

[BlackOp]

Lamar hasn't played without a lead this season...it'll be interesting to watch if he can will his team back.

He hasn't been able to do it in 5 tries (post half-time)...so there is a pattern forming.

This is Mahome's 3rd game against Martindale...curious if he has learned a thing or two.

Texans had a lot of underneath stuff open against the Ravens...

[Ravens213]

It got lost in the shuffle the other day, but I mentioned that on the Chiefs website there were 2-3 photos from practice this week that included Gay on the field with the starters.

I’m just sayin’...

How was his training camp? Liked him a lot when I was “scouting” players the ravens could possibly draft. Queen gets all the attention for us but Malik Harrison is our other rookie ilb and he’s going to be really good. More of a thumper/run stopper.

[Coochie liquor]

Definitely agree with this. Again not trying to compare Mahomes to Lamar... is that where this comes from? LJ steals some attention away from your guy and suddenly a fan base turns on the shiny new toy everyone loves? That’s gotta be it right? I would understand that.

I guess for me it’s how your fan base likes to say he’s the best qb, yet when the chips are down and the games mean the most, he has t been able to make it happen. His body language when he’s losing is completely the opposite as when Mahomes is losing. Lamar is a bad ass and there’s no question about it. But he’s the ultimate system quarterback. Want respect, gotta earn it. And the regular season isn’t where you prove it. How many times have Mahomes, Rogers, Wilson been held to 12 points in their career, or even in the playoffs. 12 points as the number 1 seed is not a good look.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Does anyone know the stat when Lamar is behind in a game? What’s his wins vs losses?

[Mecca]

Lamar Jackson reminds me a lot of Colin Kaepernick in the sense that he was in that Roman offense and put up these huge numbers going all the way to the SB, but dude was never the best QB in the league.

[smithandrew051]

Did you know Lamar Jackson has only completed 20+ passes in a regular season game 5 times?

He’s also completed 15 or fewer as a starter 12 times.

[FloridaMan88]

Does anyone know the stat when Lamar is behind in a game? What’s his wins vs losses?

Since Lamar Jackson became the Ravens starting QB midway through the 2018 season, he's never led them to a comeback win when they've trailed in the fourth quarter.

His only comeback win when trailing in the SECOND HALF of a game was against the Bengals/Andy Dalton in 2018, and that comeback took place when trailing in the third quarter.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

How was his training camp? Liked him a lot when I was “scouting” players the ravens could possibly draft. Queen gets all the attention for us but Malik Harrison is our other rookie ilb and he’s going to be really good. More of a thumper/run stopper.

No one really knows cause of the COVID regulations.

The Chiefs put out some clips of him making plays at practice and lead us to believe that he would be a day one starter... but nothing so far.

They’ve either been keeping him under wraps for two weeks, or they want him to get a better grasp on the defense.

[DRM08]

Since Lamar Jackson became the Ravens starting QB midway through the 2018 season, he's never led them to a comeback win when they've trailed in the fourth quarter.

His only comeback win when trailing in the SECOND HALF of a game was against the Bengals/Andy Dalton in 2018, and that comeback took place when trailing in the third quarter.

I'd say Lamar and his teammates deserve a lot of credit for kicking butt early in games. You would rather win like that than get off to slow starts and have to pull off crazy comebacks.

[smithandrew051]

Here’s my question.

If Jackson is a top 10 passer, then why the fuck would any coach have him run so many times? Why risk an injury to your QB if he’s perfectly capable of beating teams from the pocket?

It takes one freak play to end your season, but Jackson still had 17 rushing attempts in Week 16 against the Browns (who weren’t even any good).

Postseason? Sure run him all you want (even though 20 attempts only amounted to 12 points against the Titans). Regular season against the Bengals in Week 6? Why the fuck would he run 19 times?

And no these aren’t all scrambles. Plenty are designed runs.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

On a side note, we will probably be behind again this game

[BlackOp]

Here is how last season's match-up played out... w/o Hill.
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They have added Peters and lost Earl Thomas...Tyreek demands two defenders. Something has to give...and Chiefs role players (Hardman/Williams) had good games...as well as Kelce.

I'm looking at Harmadn/Kelce/CEH to be big...and Hill eventually, if they leave Humphrey on him, singled up.

Is this time CEH shows in the screen game?...they blitz 47%.

[smithandrew051]

Here is how last season's match-up played out... w/o Hill.

They have added Peters and lost Earl Thomas...Tyreek demands two defenders. Something has to give...and Chiefs roles player (Hardman/Williams) had good games...as well as Kelce.

I'm looking at Harmadn/Kelce/CEH to be big...and Hill eventually, if they leave Humphrey on him, singled up.

Is this time CEH shows in the screen game?...they blitz 47%.

And to clarify, that’s Darrell Williams. We also didn’t have Damien Williams for that game.

[Ravens213]

Here’s my question.

If Jackson is a top 10 passer, then why the **** would any coach have him run so many times? Why risk an injury to your QB if he’s perfectly capable of beating teams from the pocket?

It takes one freak play to end your season, but Jackson still had 17 rushing attempts in Week 16 against the Browns (who weren’t even any good).

Postseason? Sure run him all you want (even though 20 attempts only amounted to 12 points against the Titans). Regular season against the Bengals in Week 6? Why the **** would he run 19 times?

And no these aren’t all scrambles. Plenty are designed runs.

First of all QBs are more susceptible to get hurt in the pocket than they are out of it. Also your logic just doesn’t make any sense. He’s good at both so why not do both?

[Ravens213]

Done hijacking your thread. It was nice talking to very few of you haha. I’ll be back if we win and you’ll never see me again if we lose. Hope everyone stays healthy. Go ravens.

[ptlyon]

Done hijacking your thread. It was nice talking to very few of you haha. I’ll be back if we win and you’ll never see me again if we lose. Hope everyone stays healthy. Go ravens.

Where's my crab cake recipe dammit?

[ModSocks]

I’ll be back if we win and you’ll never see me again if we lose.

Yeah, we saw a lot of that last year too.

[Munson]

Done hijacking your thread. It was nice talking to very few of you haha. I’ll be back if we win and you’ll never see me again if we lose. Hope everyone stays healthy. Go ravens.


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[BlackOp]

And to clarify, that’s Darrell Williams. We also didn’t have Damien Williams for that game.

ROFL..Damn, I forgot that too.

No Damian, no Hill and no Fisher...and a gimpy Mahomes.

It's amazing the SB champs were even competitive....no #1 WR, #1 LT or #1 RB...and no Pennel. :p

[Mecca]

Done hijacking your thread. It was nice talking to very few of you haha. I’ll be back if we win and you’ll never see me again if we lose. Hope everyone stays healthy. Go ravens.

At least that was honest.

[htismaqe]

Definitely agree with this. Again not trying to compare Mahomes to Lamar... is that where this comes from? LJ steals some attention away from your guy and suddenly a fan base turns on the shiny new toy everyone loves? That’s gotta be it right? I would understand that.

I honestly wouldn't mind if they shared the spotlight.

But if you watch all the talking heads, it's 75% Lamar anymore and honestly, that's just downright stupid.

[htismaqe]

This is a silly conversation to even try to have.

Baltimore has built their entire scheme and offensive personnel to fit what they do, aligning with Lamar’s style. Kansas City has done the same to fit what Mahomes does.

If you simply trade them over, neither has the set-up that truly would allow them to play at their peak levels.

Put Mahomes in Baltimore, in a traditional offense, and he's still a top 5 QB.

Put Lamar literally anywhere else and he's not.

Come on, man.

[smithandrew051]

First of all QBs are more susceptible to get hurt in the pocket than they are out of it. Also your logic just doesn’t make any sense. He’s good at both so why not do both?

He will take more hits running the ball. That makes him more susceptible to injury.

Guys like Brady, (both) Manning, Brees, Rivers, etc played an eternity in the league because they were pocket passers who didn’t get hurt.

Practically all of the running QBs break down from the punishment. And none of them ran as much as Jackson.

Shitty pocket passers do get hurt, because they don’t get rid of the ball quick enough. The good ones don’t get hurt very often. They have better awareness and avoid the hits.

My point is why risk the increased rate of injury to beat bad teams? Why put Jackson in that position against shitty competition if he’s perfectly capable as a passer? Seems very unnecessary.

[PHOG]

Houston game was good, but could have been better. Given the weapons on the Chiefs, they have a very high ceiling. I don't think they were anywhere close to that ceiling against Houston.

31-7, yep, let's call the dogs off.

[smithandrew051]

That was a good time for him to leave.

I’m actually impressed he tried to make the argument that Jackson is actually less susceptible to injury because he runs the ball so often.

I’m stunned.

[Red Dawg]

There is no must-win. There’s no home field advantage this year.

We just want them to be healthy and in the playoffs

I disagree. The two seed would get two home playoff games.

[htismaqe]

I disagree. The two seed would get two home playoff games.

With no fans in the stands...

[smithandrew051]

With no fans in the stands...

I guess the travel could make a difference