We gave up 185 rushing yards. WHAT EVER WILL WE DO?

[Hammock Parties]

GUYZ THIS RUN DEFENSE IZZ SOOO BAD FOR REALZ!!!!!!

HOW KIN WE KEEP WINNIN WITH THIS SHITTY RUN D?!?!

I'M REAL CONCERNED

R WE EXPOZED?

[carcosa]

Lol

[TwistedChief]

Embarrassed.

[Hammock Parties]

guyz we are SO SOFT

POUND THE ROCK 2 BEET THE CHEFS?

[eDave]

Shit was working there for a bit. It's just not sustainable.

[St. Patty's Fire]

DEFENSE GOT RUN OVER

PAT HAD A 69.420 PFF GRADE

[Pitt Gorilla]

Embarrassed.

LMAO :clap:

[Hammock Parties]

Shit was working there for a bit. It's just not sustainable.

situational run defense

we haz it

[htismaqe]

Embarrassed.

ROFL

[Mecca]

I enjoy them handing off for rushing yards down 16 with 7 minutes to go like waving the white flag

[smithandrew051]

The Broncos will trample is on Thursday night

[JohnnyHammersticks]

gUiSe iS iT tImE tO sTaRt tHiNkInG aBouT rePlaCing mAhOmeS?????

[lewdog]

What happens to a run game when you get behind?

Oh yeah, fuck them!

[KChiefs1]

Was this the worst game of Patrick’s career?

[eDave]

gUiSe iS iT tImE tO sTaRt tHiNkInG aBouT rePlaCing mAhOmeS?????

You are mocking something no one has said ever.

[Red Dawg]

Laugh if you want. That stat is not good.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Laugh if you want. That stat is not good.

They scored 10. TEN. You have a problem with that stat line as well, or are you simply "embarrassed" that it didn't look sexy enough?

[InChiefsHeaven]

They scored 10. TEN. You have a problem with that stat line as well, or are you simply "embarrassed" that it didn't look sexy enough?
THIS. The job of defense is to stop the other team from scoring points. The D did that in spades tonight. All the rushing yards is a concern, but it's all about the points.

[Mahomes_Is_God]

We looked like shit tonight, except for our defence. Don't act like we didn't have a reason to be concerned. There was plenty of reason to be concerned. Obviously we're all happy things turned out alright, but that was uncharacteristically bad football from us. We need to do better.

[Red Dawg]

They scored 10. TEN. You have a problem with that stat line as well, or are you simply "embarrassed" that it didn't look sexy enough?

That's only because they had crappy QBs.

[Pitt Gorilla]

We looked like shit tonight, except for our defence. Don't act like we didn't have a reason to be concerned. There was plenty of reason to be concerned. Obviously we're all happy things turned out alright, but that was uncharacteristically bad football from us. We need to do better.

Were you "embarrassed"?

[htismaqe]

That's only because they had crappy QBs.

Of course, they didn't play well or anything. It's solely because the other team is crap.

[Coach]

That's only because they had crappy QBs.

And the only QB's I am worried about are the dudes that is currently in the NFC.

Outside of Mahomes, the AFC quarterbacks blow.

[Mahomes_Is_God]

Were you "embarrassed"?

No we won. But I didn't like how we played. We have to be better next week.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Chiefs are a top 5 defense at the moment.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

You are mocking something no one has said ever.

That's correct Dave. And good job figuring that out. I was mocking how ridiculous some Chicken Little's act in the game thread EVERY SINGLE GAME. It's almost surprising that it hasn't been said.

(I'll start PMing you explanations to my more intricate zingers from now on so you're up-to-speed)

[BWillie]

GUYZ THIS RUN DEFENSE IZZ SOOO BAD FOR REALZ!!!!!!

HOW KIN WE KEEP WINNIN WITH THIS SHITTY RUN D?!?!

I'M REAL CONCERNED

R WE EXPOZED?

Would rather care about pass d more and Ive never been more confident in our coverage scheme. Thats with a developing from injury Thornhill, one armed Ward, no Sneed, No Breeland. Fenton looked great tonight. Sneed looked the part early. Lots to look forward to in our secondary.

[smithandrew051]

That's only because they had crappy QBs.

Why do Chiefs fans always make excuses for their success?

[St. Patty's Fire]

Laugh if you want. That stat is not good.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWF1wPBUEAMK4EV.jpg

[Mahomes_Is_God]

Oh wait, I forgot we have the Raiders this weekend. I meant when we play the Bills. We have to be on our A-game for the Bills. We can beat the Raiders while we're drunk.

[RunKC]

No we won. But I didn't like how we played. We have to be better next week.

Which is a completely fair and true statement to make, but saying that here somehow translates that you hate the Chiefs.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

That's only because they had crappy QBs.

Chiefs have given up the 2nd fewest points in the league per game. How you like dem apples?

[htismaqe]

Which is a completely fair and true statement to make, but saying that here somehow translates that you hate the Chiefs.

No, saying you're "embarrassed" translates to getting you made fun of.

[Hammock Parties]

Laugh if you want. That stat is not good.

LMAO

It means nothing.

And every time we get gashed and win, more evidence piles up that it means nothing.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

Just burned all of my Chiefs gear. I'm just too embarrassed to support this franchise anymore.

[Sofa King]

You should also note that we can't run the ball very well either. That is REALLY scary.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Which is a completely fair and true statement to make, but saying that here somehow translates that you hate the Chiefs.

Game was, literally, never in doubt. We can and probably will play better. Certainly, no reason for ANYONE to be "embarrassed."

[petegz28]

50 of those yards came on 2 plays....

[petegz28]

Game was, literally, never in doubt. We can and probably will play better. Certainly, no reason for ANYONE to be "embarrassed."

Meh, it was in doubt for a bit because we couldn't pull away and they were always 1 lucky play or flag away from taking the lead.

[Molitoth]

Our offense barely best brian hoyer.

I mean, I guess that is a little embarrassing....

[Pasta Little Brioni]

You morons bitching realize that the Chiefs are a top 2 defense since midseason last year right? Have won 13 in a row. Have the Jordan of football. Embarrassed? Piss off

[RunKC]

No, saying you're "embarrassed" translates to getting you made fun of.

We were barely winning over a 2nd and 3rd string QB of a team that woke up at 5 AM, travelled to the game today and lost their starting QB just before the original game.

We played very awful football for about 3 quarters. Nothing wrong with criticizing that. To that point it was embarrassing, especially for this team and their expectations of themselves.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

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[petegz28]

Our offense barely best brian hoyer.

I mean, I guess that is a little embarrassing....

I just listened to Pat's post game presser...he knows he played like crap. Said he had guys open than he didn't see until he went back and looked at the tablet.

Arguably his worst game since the Colts game though the outcome was different here. Can't be an ace every game. He made some key plays when we need them but he was fortunate not to get picked twice and fumble.

[htismaqe]

We were barely winning over a 2nd and 3rd string QB of a team that woke up at 5 AM, travelled to the game today and lost their starting QB just before the original game.

We played very awful football for about 3 quarters. Nothing wrong with criticizing that. To that point it was embarrassing, especially for this team and their expectations of themselves.

Nothing about this team is embarrassing.

They had a bad game. You jumped the shark.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Only defense this season to not allow more than 20 points in a game thru 4

[Pitt Gorilla]

We were barely winning over a 2nd and 3rd string QB of a team that woke up at 5 AM, travelled to the game today and lost their starting QB just before the original game.

We played very awful football for about 3 quarters. Nothing wrong with criticizing that. To that point it was embarrassing, especially for this team and their expectations of themselves.

You were embarrassed for the team or the team was embarrassed?

[htismaqe]

Game was, literally, never in doubt. We can and probably will play better. Certainly, no reason for ANYONE to be "embarrassed."

Exactly.

[TwistedChief]

Which is a completely fair and true statement to make, but saying that here somehow translates that you hate the Chiefs.

Dude, you're a good poster here and a smart guy. The only issue any of us have is your use of the term 'embarrassing' in describing how you felt. We can all agree the team looked mediocre, but I don't see how any of us can be embarrassed having won, what, 12 games in a row before this including a Super Bowl? It's all about having some perspective after we reached the summit.

And, of course, we won. Again. Against the Patriots. That never gets old and it'll all look the same in a decade when you're at Arrowhead flipping over the 2020 game recaps in the Hall of Honors.

It's an amazing time to be a Chiefs fan. Disappointed. Enchanted. Sad. Excited. Sure. But embarrassed? We have awhile before that re-enters the lexicon of this fan base.

[RealSNR]

Laugh if you want. That stat is not good.

I will laugh if I want. At you.

[petegz28]

We were barely winning over a 2nd and 3rd string QB of a team that woke up at 5 AM, travelled to the game today and lost their starting QB just before the original game.

We played very awful football for about 3 quarters. Nothing wrong with criticizing that. To that point it was embarrassing, especially for this team and their expectations of themselves.

The offense played awful for 3 quarters. The defense played good all night and kept us in the game.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Dude, you're a good poster here and a smart guy. The only issue any of us have is your use of the term 'embarrassing' in describing how you felt. We can all agree the team looked mediocre, but I don't see how any of us can be embarrassed having won, what, 12 games in a row before this including a Super Bowl? It's all about having some perspective after we reached the summit.

And, of course, we won. Again. Against the Patriots. That never gets old and it'll all look the same in a decade when you're at Arrowhead flipping over the 2020 game recaps in the Hall of Honors.

It's an amazing time to be a Chiefs fan. Disappointed. Enchanted. Sad. Excited. Sure. But embarrassed? We have awhile before that re-enters the lexicon of this fan base.:clap:

[htismaqe]

Dude, you're a good poster here and a smart guy. The only issue any of us have is your use of the term 'embarrassing' in describing how you felt. We can all agree the team looked mediocre, but I don't see how any of us can be embarrassed having won, what, 12 games in a row before this including a Super Bowl? It's all about having some perspective after we reached the summit.

And, of course, we won. Again. Against the Patriots. That never gets old and it'll all look the same in a decade when you're at Arrowhead flipping over the 2020 game recaps in the Hall of Honors.

It's an amazing time to be a Chiefs fan. Disappointed. Enchanted. Sad. Excited. Sure. But embarrassed? We have awhile before that re-enters the lexicon of this fan base.

:clap:

They won a Super Bowl 8 months ago. That's a far cry from Jovan Belcher offing himself in the Arrowhead parking lot.

"Embarrassing" was just a poor, poor choice of words.

[BWillie]

Game was, literally, never in doubt. We can and probably will play better. Certainly, no reason for ANYONE to be "embarrassed."

Wasn't in doubt? I don't know about that. Cam Newton makes that team much more dangerous. We were fortunate to get some of the bounces and breaks go our way. Those types of games you normally lose. Maybe it will be a magical regular season because our defense balled out tonight and had Mahomes back.

[Red Dawg]

I will laugh if I want. At you.

Stopping the run is a key point of winning in the playoffs. Chiefs fans should know that better than anyone. Champs or not, 185 is way too many in a tight game.

[Sassy Squatch]

Defense even without Jones was fucking legit.

[TwistedChief]

Wasn't in doubt? I don't know about that. Cam Newton makes that team much more dangerous. We were fortunate to get some of the bounces and breaks go our way. Those types of games you normally lose. Maybe it will be a magical regular season because our defense balled out tonight and had Mahomes back.

Damn, I missed the part where Cam came off the bench and I felt like the game was in doubt.

[Hammock Parties]

This game wasn't embarrassing - it was kind of annoying, but embarrassing?

LMAO

We're just spoiled. Used to Mahomes looking like an immortal Highlander every week.

Occasionally he's mortal, and still gets the dub.

That's OK. Not as fun, but OK.

Not embarrassing.

[Hammock Parties]

Stopping the run is a key point of winning in the playoffs. Chiefs fans should know that better than anyone. Champs or not, 185 is way too many in a tight game.

Damn, well it's too bad we've never had a year where we got gashed by the run in the regular season before tightening up in the playoffs.

We could really use that experience to lean on going forward! Damn!

WE R DOOMED

[Pitt Gorilla]

Wasn't in doubt? I don't know about that. Cam Newton makes that team much more dangerous. We were fortunate to get some of the bounces and breaks go our way. Those types of games you normally lose. Maybe it will be a magical regular season because our defense balled out tonight and had Mahomes back.
They were fortunate that PI was called instead of ANOTHER pick in the end zone.

I'd love to know when people thought the game was in doubt. I'm guessing they're the same people that gave up during the Texans, Titans, and 49ers playoff games.

Did the Pats have a lead I can't recall? Was Patrick not going to be allowed to lead the offense? I feel like I'm missing something.

[DJ's left nut]

We looked like shit tonight, except for our defence. Don't act like we didn't have a reason to be concerned. There was plenty of reason to be concerned. Obviously we're all happy things turned out alright, but that was uncharacteristically bad football from us. We need to do better.

They really didn’t look like shit.

The other guys get paid to play as well and BB had his secondary executing at an EXTREMELY high level. Sometimes there just isn’t anyone to throw to.

Pat had protection and time - the Patriots D was just playing extremely well.

Credit is due to the Patriots for playing well in difficult circumstances.

[Mahomes_Is_God]

No, saying you're "embarrassed" translates to getting you made fun of.

I don't recall ever saying we were "embarrassing", but I'm drunk so maybe I did at some point. Fact of the matter is, Mahomes and our offence was just plain bad all game. They never really woke up, which is highly unusual. Our defence won us this game 100%. Our offence was useless and that's something we need to be concerned about.

[Red Dawg]

Damn, well it's too bad we've never had a year where we got gashed by the run in the regular season before tightening up in the playoffs.

We could really use that experience to lean on going forward! Damn!

WE R DOOMED

Never said doomed. It just wasn't good. We won but the issue needs to get better and I think it will.

[Pitt Gorilla]

They really didn’t look like shit.

The other guys get paid to play as well and BB had his secondary executing at an EXTREMELY high level. Sometimes there just isn’t anyone to throw to.

Pat had protection and time - the Patriots D was just playing extremely well.

Credit is due to the Patriots for playing well in difficult circumstances.

I was shocked at how much time Patrick had. I mean, a 3 man rush SHOULD allow more time, but the line did a really nice job.

[htismaqe]

Wasn't in doubt? I don't know about that. Cam Newton makes that team much more dangerous. We were fortunate to get some of the bounces and breaks go our way. Those types of games you normally lose. Maybe it will be a magical regular season because our defense balled out tonight and had Mahomes back.

Patrick Mahomes left 2 TD's on the field too.

The game was supposed to be played yesterday. You can't say that the delay had no effect on the Chiefs.

[warpaint*]

Chiefs can be run on. They also seem to have the ability to make plays when they need to and stiffen up when they need to. I don’t think they played well tonight. Hoyer was supposed to be at least steady eddie and instead the Pats got retard Rick.

[Marcellus]

What happens to a run game when you get behind?

Oh yeah, **** them!

This is why its bullshit.

To beat KC you have to -

Keep KC from scoring - big problem

+ score when you have the ball

+ Win turnover battle

+ win time of possession

+ hope they do dumb shit to beat themselves

Not one of those things wins the game, you have to do at least 3 of them.


Simply running the ball doesn't do any of those things.

[htismaqe]

I don't recall ever saying we were "embarrassing", but I'm drunk so maybe I did at some point. Fact of the matter is, Mahomes and our offence was just plain bad all game. They never really woke up, which is highly unusual. Our defence won us this game 100%. Our offence was useless and that's something we need to be concerned about.

My comment wasn't directed at you, it was directed at the person I quoted. ;)

[DJ's left nut]

I was shocked at how much time Patrick had. I mean, a 3 man rush SHOULD allow more time, but the line did a really nice job.

Right.

So at some point you have to ask how ‘the offense played like shit’ can be a takeaway.

They weren’t dropping balls all over, blowing reads or getting wrecked on the DL. At WORST Mahomes was missing open looks but honestly I think he was being his typical humble self.

There wasn’t a lot open out there. The Pats played really basic but really smart and really sound football.

It’s okay to acknowledge that fellas.

[DRM08]

You morons bitching realize that the Chiefs are a top 2 defense since midseason last year right? Have won 13 in a row. Have the Jordan of football. Embarrassed? Piss off

The Jordan of football looked like rubbish tonight. He's fortunate the KC defense made some big time plays and New England was forced to play with 2 horrible QB's.

[Marcellus]

Right.

So at some point you have to ask how ‘the offense played like shit’ can be a takeaway.

They weren’t dropping balls all over, blowing reads or getting wrecked on the DL. At WORST Mahomes was missing open looks but honestly I think he was being his typical humble self.

There wasn’t a lot open out there. The Pats played really basic but really smart and really sound football.

It’s okay to acknowledge that fellas.

Exactly. They played a perfect game and even without offensive ineptitude would have lost by 3 or 7.
Vegas more or less showed you the difference in the line shift.

[Sassy Squatch]

Mahomes had some really bad plays tonight. Hit the defenders in the hands twice, missed some deep balls early, and whatever the fuck happened on that sack. Other teams should be scared shitless that the defense isn't a liability anymore, though. They straight up owned this game and held the fort down until Mahomes finally got his game going.

[Sassy Squatch]

They also need a refresher on covering up the fucking ball. Looked like early last year when Watkins got the ball punched out of his damn hands. That doesn't happen and this game is most likely over way earlier.

[htismaqe]

They also need a refresher on covering up the fucking ball. Looked like early last year when Watkins got the ball punched out of his damn hands. That doesn't happen and this game is most likely over way earlier.

Yep.

[Molitoth]

We're just spoiled. Used to Mahomes looking like an immortal Highlander every week.

Occasionally he's mortal, and still gets the dub..

I don't even put it all on Pat. Pat looks great up until...

I mean, the insanely shitty fumble by Watkins.
The run blocking by our O-line.
The play calling.
The bailout by the refs on the Pat INT.
The missed extra point (again) WTF Butker?????
The almost muffed punt by Hardman.


The Pats gave the game away with their even shittier QB play.

[Pitt Gorilla]

I don't even put it all on Pat. Pat looks great up until...

I mean, the insanely shitty fumble by Watkins.
The run blocking by our O-line.
The play calling.
The bailout by the refs on the Pat INT.
The missed extra point (again) WTF Butker?????
The almost muffed punt by Hardman.


The Pats gave the game away with their even shittier QB play.

Play calling was fine.

[ModSocks]

Chiefs are a top 5 defense at the moment.

They look like it.

Im kinda wondering how Breeland fits in once Snead returns.

[ModSocks]

They really didn’t look like shit.

The other guys get paid to play as well and BB had his secondary executing at an EXTREMELY high level. Sometimes there just isn’t anyone to throw to.

Pat had protection and time - the Patriots D was just playing extremely well.

Credit is due to the Patriots for playing well in difficult circumstances.

This.

The Patriots played their ass off tonight and BB deployed a defense i dont think anyone was expecting.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

They look like it.

Im kinda wondering how Breeland fits in once Snead returns.

No idea tbh. For rn Breeland and Ward are your outside and Fenton the slot CB just like last year. When sneed comes back I’d do a rotation

[bringbackmarty]

I remember my first figurative beer(s) on this football forum. I was wild, everyone else's take was wrong. Remember when you were Goatse and basically the message board version of two girls one cup. Nothing has changed except you learned how to Robot Chicken some chiefs videos. Good run defense makes comebacks happen if you are down. Seem like somebody forgot football 101 and made a stupid post.

[stevieray]

Good teams find ways to win close or ugly games.

BPM, I used to over analyze every mistake, and fret over the defense holding a lead.

APM, I don't really care because we are always in it, even from behind.

Spags D tho...they are so stingy in the second half.

:rockon:

[stevieray]

I mean, the insanely shitty fumble by Watkins.


The ball was punched out, it was damn good defensive play.

[carcosa]

I can't imagine being the tiniest bit concerned about THIS team.

[smithandrew051]

I can't imagine being the tiniest bit concerned about THIS team.

What are you talking about????

We are FUCKED!!!!!!!

[Mecca]

Watkins getting the ball punched out is something he should work on, Detroit hit him with that last year.

[mnchiefsguy]

They scored 10. TEN. You have a problem with that stat line as well, or are you simply "embarrassed" that it didn't look sexy enough?

I admit the defense has been yelling at the TV at times tonight...but God Damn did they not come up big when it counted.

They gave up 10 points...and the Chiefs lead wire to wire.

This defense also had some injuries and had no Chris Jones tonight...and they gave up 10 points.

This defense is miles ahead of where it was.

[mnchiefsguy]

They look like it.

Im kinda wondering how Breeland fits in once Snead returns.

You cannot have too many good corners in today's NFL.

Not only is it a great unit, it also a cheap unit, compared to the rest of our cap.

They are balling out so far this year and I hope they keep it up and get even better with Breeland.

[philfree]

17.5 points a game. If we keep that we won't lose a game.

[Funkstown]

OmG hOw wILl oUr dEfEnSe eVeR sUrViVe!!!

[Megatron96]

Dude, you're a good poster here and a smart guy. The only issue any of us have is your use of the term 'embarrassing' in describing how you felt. We can all agree the team looked mediocre, but I don't see how any of us can be embarrassed having won, what, 12 games in a row before this including a Super Bowl? It's all about having some perspective after we reached the summit.

And, of course, we won. Again. Against the Patriots. That never gets old and it'll all look the same in a decade when you're at Arrowhead flipping over the 2020 game recaps in the Hall of Honors.

It's an amazing time to be a Chiefs fan. Disappointed. Enchanted. Sad. Excited. Sure. But embarrassed? We have awhile before that re-enters the lexicon of this fan base.

Okay, let me start by saying right here that I agree with every single thing you just said above. Every. Single. Thing.

But at the same time, okay maybe it's not exactly embarrassed, but how about 'let down,' a bit by tonight's game.

I mean, look at this:

Last Monday night against the 2nd best team in the AFC, the Chiefs put on a CLINICon how to play professional football. A damned clinic. On both sides of the ball.

And then tonight, with a chance to really send the message home, against a weakened Patriots team, we kind of barely dominate them and post just 26 points.

Like some ordinary team.

This team isn't ordinary, and they had a chance to lay it down for every team in the NFL tonight, and they let it slip by. A chance to play some 'Patriot-style . . .


You know what? We don't want our team to be anything like the damned Patriots, so just ignore everything I said above.

[Halfcan]

It was great seeing the Pats run the ball and the clock when they were down by 16 points. Empty stats.

[Demonpenz]

FRAUDS

[TwistedChief]

Okay, let me start by saying right here that I agree with every single thing you just said above. Every. Single. Thing.

But at the same time, okay maybe it's not exactly embarrassed, but how about 'let down,' a bit by tonight's game.

I mean, look at this:

Last Monday night against the 2nd best team in the AFC, the Chiefs put on a CLINICon how to play professional football. A damned clinic. On both sides of the ball.

And then tonight, with a chance to really send the message home, against a weakened Patriots team, we kind of barely dominate them and post just 26 points.

Like some ordinary team.

This team isn't ordinary, and they had a chance to lay it down for every team in the NFL tonight, and they let it slip by. A chance to play some 'Patriot-style . . .


You know what? We don't want our team to be anything like the damned Patriots, so just ignore everything I said above.

The reality is the Patriots won tons of games like this that frustrated an endless number of opposing fan bases. We just want to remember them as this overwhelming juggernaut that rolled over teams over the last two decades.

It's almost more fun leaving other teams with a palpable sense of what-ifs. Breaks the soul even more.

[DRM08]

Okay, let me start by saying right here that I agree with every single thing you just said above. Every. Single. Thing.

But at the same time, okay maybe it's not exactly embarrassed, but how about 'let down,' a bit by tonight's game.

I mean, look at this:

Last Monday night against the 2nd best team in the AFC, the Chiefs put on a CLINICon how to play professional football. A damned clinic. On both sides of the ball.

And then tonight, with a chance to really send the message home, against a weakened Patriots team, we kind of barely dominate them and post just 26 points.

Like some ordinary team.

This team isn't ordinary, and they had a chance to lay it down for every team in the NFL tonight, and they let it slip by. A chance to play some 'Patriot-style . . .


You know what? We don't want our team to be anything like the damned Patriots, so just ignore everything I said above.

Special teams was pretty bad against Baltimore, at least an 11 point swing in Ravens favor on ST. I guess the cool thing is we can say KC is 4-0 without really bringing their A-game so far this season. The goal is to keep guys healthy and playing their best football at the right moment, specifically the playoffs. It’s a long season with plenty of room and time for improvement. Just stay healthy!!

[tredadda]

Stopping the run is a key point of winning in the playoffs. Chiefs fans should know that better than anyone. Champs or not, 185 is way too many in a tight game.

Stopping the other team from scoring is far more important and our defense is quite good at that at this time.

[tredadda]

Did Mahomes and the offense have their best game? No but that’s going to happen. People forget that even the 16-0 Patriots had some close games. Jordan had off nights. This is the nature of sports. A sign of a great team and player is when they can have an off night and still win. This is why it’s a team sport. When the offense struggled the defense picked them up. Sometimes we win pretty, like vs Baltimore, and sometimes we win ugly like last night.

[Direckshun]

The thing is, you can't think of the Chiefs as inevitable Super Bowl champions. They're not.

They're likely, and more likely than every other team. But there are other teams in the league that can catch the Chiefs on an off night in the playoffs and knock them out. It can happen.

So you need to hunt for the potential Achilles heels on this team to see where an opponent might get us, and the Patriots came as close as we've seen to finding the recipe. I haven't dug a ton into the tape to discern what it is the Patriots did, but we know they ran on us well.

The good news is the Chiefs have upgraded themselves from the 2018 Chiefs who got run over by the Patriots in the AFCCG, in part by getting better at the time of possession battle. So while we got run over this time as well, we were able to stay on the field better this time around.

It's also impossible to ignore the Chiefs were probably playing with 75% of their playbook, though, expecting to feast on Hoyer, which they did.

But the Patriots dropped at least two picks. They didn't have Cam. Their OL could be a ton healthier next time we see them in the playoffs and I don't know if I'd bet on Edelman dropping passes in the postseason. The Belichick gameplanning is always next level.

That said, Mahomes is sharp as a tack in January. He missed a couple passes he normally completes. And if that's the case, and the Chiefs open up 100% of their playbook, this game proved that the Chiefs offense is now as close to Belichick-proof as possible, with too many weapons for Belichick to effectively neuter.

I think this game gives me a couple concerns for a Chiefs-Patriots matchup in the playoffs. But not enough to change my mind that we'd still be favored.

[Graystoke]

It was a very strange game but remember we are the defending champs. Teams are going to bring their very best to beat us. Also I believe the playbook was vanilla on purpose. The season is long and Andy isn't going to show his cards till it counts

[DJ's left nut]

It was a very strange game but remember we are the defending champs. Teams are going to bring their very best to beat us. Also I believe the playbook was vanilla on purpose. The season is long and Andy isn't going to show his cards till it counts

I realized something in the Ravens game.

I think Andy treats his 'exotic plays' like the rest of us treat money.

There's no sense in having 'em if you aren't going to use them when you need them. But then again, you don't want to burn them just to burn them either.

We all earn money so we have it when we need it. We don't piss it away for no reason, but we didn't go earning it so we can die with a bunch of it in our bank account. And when we need it, we spend it with the confidence that ultimately we'll be able to make more.

Andy's a lot like that when it comes to his tricky plays. He's not gonna spend just to spend, but when he needs to, he's confident that he has what he needs to get the job done and when it all comes down to it, while it's not fun to burn off capital, he's pretty confident he'll just go to the lab and make more.

Busting out a bunch of exotic route combinations today would've just been splurging for a gold-plated toilet seat. WTF is the point? It just wasn't needed so there was no sense in doing anything more than the vanilla packages/concepts we saw today.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

I realized something in the Ravens game.

I think Andy treats his 'exotic plays' like the rest of us treat money.

There's no sense in having 'em if you aren't going to use them when you need them. But then again, you don't want to burn them just to burn them either.

We all earn money so we have it when we need it. We don't piss it away for no reason, but we didn't go earning it so we can die with a bunch of it in our bank account. And when we need it, we spend it with the confidence that ultimately we'll be able to make more.

Andy's a lot like that when it comes to his tricky plays. He's not gonna spend just to spend, but when he needs to, he's confident that he has what he needs to get the job done and when it all comes down to it, while it's not fun to burn off capital, he's pretty confident he'll just go to the lab and make more.

Busting out a bunch of exotic route combinations today would've just been splurging for a gold-plated toilet seat. WTF is the point? It just wasn't needed so there was no sense in doing anything more than the vanilla packages/concepts we saw today.

Don’t understand how more people can’t see this. You’re spot on.

You can almost see it in the faces of the players too, especially Mahomes. Last night he was just going through the motions and trying to make plays on his own. They weren’t really schemed for him. Which is fine. Look at the film yesterday compared to the Ravens game. That wasn’t even the same offensive system out there. Reid is counting on having enough talent to run a vanilla scheme for games like last night, and so far it’s working. Let’s also not forget we had no preseason, so they are still installing things.

Teams are relying on film more than ever during this Covid situation. The less we put on tape, the better. Reid doesn’t need to put up 45 points per game to prove anything. We just need to score enough points to win, which we’ve been doing. By week 8 everything will be rolling like a well oiled machine.

[Hammock Parties]

They looked very unfocused on offense until the third quarter when something lit a fire under their ass.

I guess it's good they can just turn it on like that.

[gold_and_red]

This defense is closing out games very well. I dreaded seeing Sutton's D in the 4th quarter knowing that they will make a game out of any situation.
The issue with giving up that many rushing yards even though without points is that it keeps Mahomes off the field and keeps the game closer than it should be. The moment it costs us a game then I bet it will be highlighted all over CP.

[Hammock Parties]

The moment it costs us a game then I bet it will be highlighted all over CP.

Even last year when it supposedly "cost us a game" it was actually the pass defense cratering on the last drive vs TEN

[Marcellus]

I realized something in the Ravens game.

I think Andy treats his 'exotic plays' like the rest of us treat money.

There's no sense in having 'em if you aren't going to use them when you need them. But then again, you don't want to burn them just to burn them either.

We all earn money so we have it when we need it. We don't piss it away for no reason, but we didn't go earning it so we can die with a bunch of it in our bank account. And when we need it, we spend it with the confidence that ultimately we'll be able to make more.

Andy's a lot like that when it comes to his tricky plays. He's not gonna spend just to spend, but when he needs to, he's confident that he has what he needs to get the job done and when it all comes down to it, while it's not fun to burn off capital, he's pretty confident he'll just go to the lab and make more.

Busting out a bunch of exotic route combinations today would've just been splurging for a gold-plated toilet seat. WTF is the point? It just wasn't needed so there was no sense in doing anything more than the vanilla packages/concepts we saw today.

I mentioned last night it appeared that once they knew Cam wasn't playing they went with a more vanilla game plan and kept some more shit under wraps.

[tredadda]

I mentioned last night it appeared that once they knew Cam wasn't playing they went with a more vanilla game plan and kept some more shit under wraps.

Exactly right. If you look at the last three years when we played NE (outside of this year) we scored a bunch of points on them. This was with Mahomes and Smith at QB and a NE squad who had as much of not more talent on defense and Tom Brady on offense. Reid has never struggled to score on NE since he has been in KC.

[Megatron96]

Don’t understand how more people can’t see this. You’re spot on.

You can almost see it in the faces of the players too, especially Mahomes. Last night he was just going through the motions and trying to make plays on his own. They weren’t really schemed for him. Which is fine. Look at the film yesterday compared to the Ravens game. That wasn’t even the same offensive system out there. Reid is counting on having enough talent to run a vanilla scheme for games like last night, and so far it’s working. Let’s also not forget we had no preseason, so they are still installing things.

Teams are relying on film more than ever during this Covid situation. The less we put on tape, the better. Reid doesn’t need to put up 45 points per game to prove anything. We just need to score enough points to win, which we’ve been doing. By week 8 everything will be rolling like a well oiled machine.

There were a couple plays by both Hill and Kelce where I expected them to turn up field and get some YAC, but both just caught the ball, then trotted OOB. They didn't even try to get the extra 3-5 yards the defense was giving away on both plays. It was like Hill and Kelce were running out plays in practice.

That's when I began wondering if there was something else going on besides Bill's new defense.

[Stryker]

The REAL test will be in Buffalo and New Orleans. Lastly the Bucs. Quite a gauntlet - if we make it through that, I can see us playing either the Bills or Titans maybe Steelers in the AFCCG then either Seahawks or Packers in SBLV.
Going to be interesting.

[Easy 6]

Spags played them perfectly, give up 5-10-15 runs here and there... but whatever you do, don't give up 20-30-40 yard passes to Jared Hoyer*

They picked up some run yards by design

Our design

And yes Clay, I know this thread was sarcasm... unlike some seem unable to comprehend

[smithandrew051]

Spags played them perfectly, give up 5-10-15 runs here and there... but whatever you do, don't give up 20-30-40 yard passes to Jared Hoyer*

They picked up some run yards by design

Our design

And yes Clay, I know this thread was sarcasm... unlike some seem unable to comprehend

So if I understand you correctly....WE ARE FUCKED!!!!!!!

[eDave]

I personally think each game has gone according to Andy's plan.

[RunKC]

This thread took 1 week to fall like a house of cards ROFL

[Hammock Parties]

Run D was fine today. They had one bad snap.

Pass D sucked horse cock.

[jerryaldini]

CP is immune to stats. Even with the long run Raiders only ran for 4.1 ypc. Without it they ran for 3. Next longest run was for 7. Run D least of problems

Secondary key breakdowns, offense handed them 6, Oline couldnt protect and Mahomes was scramble crazy when they did.

[MMXcalibur]

I was hoping this stupid topic would get bumped.

[Dayze]

What was the run d stats on first down.

Seemed like the last two weeks, they’ve been getting beat in that regard. Wonder if the stats prove that out or if it’s just a “seems like”.... type thing.

[Megatron96]

What was the run d stats on first down.

Seemed like the last two weeks, they’ve been getting beat in that regard. Wonder if the stats prove that out or if it’s just a “seems like”.... type thing.

Excluding the 43-yard rush by Booker, Raiders ran 14 times for 51 yards on first down. Excluding whatever they did at the end of the first half and with their last possession.

JJ was held to about 75 yards, under 4 yards/carry. Booker had the one 43 yarder and then 6 rushes for basically nothing.

[lcarus]

Sorensen is already starting to use up all of the goodwill he earned with his playoff performance last year. He had another pretty bad day today....

[ThaVirus]

Sorensen is already starting to use up all of the goodwill he earned with his playoff performance last year. He had another pretty bad day today....

Was he the safety who bit the underneath route on the big 3rd and 20 conversion leaving Renfrow wide open deep?

[Megatron96]

Was he the safety who bit the underneath route on the big 3rd and 20 conversion leaving Renfrow wide open deep?

Pretty sure, yes.

[lcarus]

Was he the safety who bit the underneath route on the big 3rd and 20 conversion leaving Renfrow wide open deep?

Yeah it sure was. Gotta cover those underneath routes on 3rd and 20......