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lewdog
10-18-2020, 02:16 PM
Let's discuss.

The positions used to be heavily regarded but the game has changed and serviceable backs seem to be common place in many years.

However, let's discuss the best back in the league. Who is it?

pugsnotdrugs19
10-18-2020, 02:17 PM
Henry is the best running back, McCaffrey is the best all around HB.

eDave
10-18-2020, 02:18 PM
Lamar Jackson

BWillie
10-18-2020, 02:19 PM
Future Hall of Famer, Derrick Henry.

notorious
10-18-2020, 02:19 PM
Lamar Jackson


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Deberg_1990
10-18-2020, 02:22 PM
Kamara

LoneWolf
10-18-2020, 02:22 PM
Jonathan Taylor.

Hog's Gone Fishin
10-18-2020, 02:25 PM
Derrick Henry. And he proved it today.

ThaVirus
10-18-2020, 02:29 PM
I like Kamara but you really can't go wrong with Henry, CMC, Zeke, Hunt or Chubb.

penguinz
10-18-2020, 02:31 PM
Darwin Thompson

SuperBowl4
10-18-2020, 02:35 PM
EZEKIEL ELLIOTT

lcarus
10-18-2020, 02:35 PM
I like Kamara but you really can't go wrong with Henry, CMC, Zeke, Hunt or Chubb.

Or Barkley when healthy. If he's the same after the injuries anyway....

mililo4cpa
10-18-2020, 02:39 PM
I think it's gotta be Henry....

Kamara perhaps, with the way he's carrying the Saints.....

Simply Red
10-18-2020, 03:00 PM
I'd say Peyton Hillis

Megatron96
10-18-2020, 03:02 PM
Statistically it's hard not to say Dalvin Cook.

BWillie
10-18-2020, 03:22 PM
It would kind of suck to be a team like Tennessee. You have the best RB in the game so you have to resort to the least effective way to score. It caps how good your team can be. But you have no choice but to run your offense thru him. Tannehill is Ryan Fitzpatrick if he doesn't rely on that play action passing system.

Reminds me of having Alex Smiff. You know you'll be good. But you know you wont be good enough.

ThaVirus
10-18-2020, 03:27 PM
Or Barkley when healthy. If he's the same after the injuries anyway....

Barkley is clearly very good, but it's difficult to truly assess what he's got going on while he's playing for such a shitty team.

At this point, I'd probably put him in the second tier with guys like Dalvin Cook, Josh Jacobs and Joe Mixon. I guess I'd prob throw Aaron Jones in this second tier as well.

Rasputin
10-18-2020, 04:29 PM
You can have all those running backs but I'm with Mahomes on taking CE-H to win Super Bowls with.

CarlosCarson27
10-18-2020, 04:31 PM
Mccaffrey, but he's injured, so..

htismaqe
10-18-2020, 04:33 PM
It's McCaffrey.

Deberg_1990
10-18-2020, 04:35 PM
It would kind of suck to be a team like Tennessee. You have the best RB in the game so you have to resort to the least effective way to score. It caps how good your team can be. But you have no choice but to run your offense thru him. Tannehill is Ryan Fitzpatrick if he doesn't rely on that play action passing system.

Reminds me of having Alex Smiff. You know you'll be good. But you know you wont be good enough.

Well. You have to best utilize the talent you’ve been given.

Not every team can have a Mahomes. That’s why he’s special. The Titans are doing it right.

Rasputin
10-18-2020, 04:37 PM
Jonathan Taylor.

I wouldn't trade Clyde Edwards-Helaire for Jonathan Taylor.

htismaqe
10-18-2020, 04:37 PM
Well. You have to best utilize the talent you’ve been given.

Not every team can have a Mahomes. That’s why he’s special. The Titans are doing it right.

They gave big contracts to Tannehill and Henry. They're not doing it right, they're doing it the only way they know how.

Rasputin
10-18-2020, 04:38 PM
The league is just lucky we haven't re re re re re re re signed CJSpiller again.

Deberg_1990
10-18-2020, 04:38 PM
They gave big contracts to Tannehill and Henry. They're not doing it right, they're doing it the only way they know how.

Who were they going to get that was better for their system? It’s still a business. You have to attract fans, you have to keep winning. What would you have done?

htismaqe
10-18-2020, 04:41 PM
Who were they going to get that was better for their system? It’s still a business. You have to attract fans, you have to keep winning. What would you have done?

If the goal is to win a Super Bowl, you don't build your offense around a RB and play action. Especially when your defense isn't great.

Rasputin
10-18-2020, 04:43 PM
Future Hall of Famer, Derrick Henry.

We handled Derrick Henry pretty well in the playoffs but we are better served with Clyde Edward-Helaire in the playoffs.

Deberg_1990
10-18-2020, 04:45 PM
If the goal is to win a Super Bowl, you don't build your offense around a RB and play action. Especially when your defense isn't great.

I get that. But if you don’t have a Mahomes, you still have to be competitive and keep winning. What they should be doing he looking for a better QB than Tannehill in the draft. Like the chiefs did with Alex Smith.

htismaqe
10-18-2020, 04:47 PM
I get that. But if you don’t have a Mahomes, you still have to be competitive and keep winning. What they should be doing he looking for a better QB than Tannehill in the draft. Like the chiefs did with Alex Smith.

The problem is that they gotta pay Henry now. I'm just not a fan of building around a RB. Not in 2020.

Sofa King
10-18-2020, 04:49 PM
CMC

jdubya
10-18-2020, 05:11 PM
Bo Jackson

htismaqe
10-18-2020, 05:13 PM
The funny thing about this discussion...

If you took the whole list of names in this thread, you'd have a who's who of teams that are .500 or worse, other than Henry.

Just goes to show you how much the game has changed.

Demonpenz
10-18-2020, 07:24 PM
When healthy Barkley is up there

Marcellus
10-18-2020, 07:29 PM
Reading CP I would be led to believe its Leveon Bell. :D

scho63
10-18-2020, 07:30 PM
1. Cook
2. McCaffrey
3. Henry
4. Hunt
5. Jackson

Chiefshrink
10-18-2020, 07:32 PM
Arnold Morgado

Jewish Rabbi
10-18-2020, 07:32 PM
Toss up between CEH and Bell, IMO.

Basileus777
10-18-2020, 07:35 PM
It's Kamara, he's carried his offense. Henry was only averaging 3 yards a carry before today.

jerryaldini
10-18-2020, 07:43 PM
Last week Cook, who had highest DVOA, gets hurt and his backup steps in and gets even bigger numbers. Hard to say who is best because scheme and line play are most of it. Chubb has best YAC.

Jewish Rabbi
10-18-2020, 07:45 PM
It's Kamara, he's carried his offense. Henry was only averaging 3 yards a carry before today.

Wrong

Rasputin
10-18-2020, 07:50 PM
Toss up between CEH and Bell, IMO.

Someone must have accadently hit thumbs down on this post but I hit thumbs up. I'd go with CEH as he is young and hungry and we will benefit from him more in the playoffs but regular season I think Bell makes up for losing D Williams even though we drafted Clyde before they knew D Williams was going opt out for the season.

Delano
10-18-2020, 07:54 PM
1. Cook
2. McCaffrey
3. Henry
4. Hunt
5. Jackson


Hunt isn't even the best running back on his team.

chiefzilla1501
10-18-2020, 08:03 PM
Probably depends on the offense. Henry is great but probably best for a ball control team. McCaffrey if you want a your rb very involved in the passing game. I kinda like zeke as the best for a conventional offense though it doesn't help that his defense has been dogshit this year.

RaidersOftheCellar
10-18-2020, 08:08 PM
Darwin Thompson

Can’t wait til the secret weapon is unleashed on some unsuspecting saps in the Super Bowl.

Jewish Rabbi
10-18-2020, 08:10 PM
Someone must have accadently hit thumbs down on this post but I hit thumbs up. I'd go with CEH as he is young and hungry and we will benefit from him more in the playoffs but regular season I think Bell makes up for losing D Williams even though we drafted Clyde before they knew D Williams was going opt out for the season.

It better have been an accident or I’m going to shit in Basileus’ mouth!!!

Basileus777
10-18-2020, 08:11 PM
Wrong
Nope.

Rausch
10-18-2020, 08:18 PM
When healthy Barkley is up there

When healthy it's him, easy.

3 Years ago it was Bell.

I think Chubb is underrated and I think Henry is still underrated.

Systems determine effectiveness of QB's and HB's. In Pitt Henry would be an MVP option. Hell, he might be anyway.

I think Barkley would fit our offense perfectly while Henry would do better somewhere like Pitt, Baltimore, Buffalo, etc...

Jewish Rabbi
10-18-2020, 08:33 PM
Nope.

I’m going to shit in your mouth!!!

Basileus777
10-18-2020, 08:35 PM
I’m going to shit in your mouth!!!
It won't change how Henry was averaging 3 ypc before today.


The best backs are those productive in all phases of the game, like Kamara. Not dudes just getting a ton of carries.

Jewish Rabbi
10-18-2020, 08:38 PM
It won't change how Henry was averaging 3 ypc before today.


The best backs are those productive in all phases of the game, like Kamara. Not dudes just getting a ton of carries.

Wrong

Tribal Warfare
10-18-2020, 08:39 PM
1) Henry

2) McCaffrey

3) Kareem

ChiefsFanatic
10-19-2020, 12:24 AM
The problem is that they gotta pay Henry now. I'm just not a fan of building around a RB. Not in 2020.I think it's easier to replace running back stats with younger, cheaper players via the draft, than the stats of any other skill position players.

Steelers fans were upset when Bell sat out, but for the money they saved not paying Bell, Conner produced very similar stats. No, he did not replace Bell completely, but he was much more cost effective.

The average career length for running backs is a little less that 5 seasons, and depending on their usage, the number of seasons a running back stays elite is less than that.

Two years ago Gurley was an elite running back. Devonta Freeman had two elite seasons. David Johnson had one elite season. Once upon a time, Larry Johnson had back to back 1700 yard seasons, and it was only the 3rd time that had happened in NFL history.

Paying a large percentage of your salary cap to a running back is not a formula for long term success.

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Nickhead
10-19-2020, 01:40 AM
Patrick Mahomes, duh!

He doesn't do anything wrong :D

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
10-19-2020, 02:06 AM
Leveon Bell

carcosa
10-19-2020, 03:21 AM
Rashaan Shehee!!!!!!

RaidersOftheCellar
10-19-2020, 03:26 AM
Leveon Bell

Could be, frankly. Still at a prime age.

Would any of these other backs have torn it up in that Jets offense?

CupidStunt
10-19-2020, 03:33 AM
Henry is not even remotely close to being the best RB in the league. Talk about some insane flavor of the moment. He's definitely the best for occasional stiff-arm and 90-yard TD highlights, but in terms of being a complete package and consistent, FOH.

He and Chubb need their own ranking along with other pure runners. Chubb is a better runner than Hunt, but most GMs would take Hunt before Chubb. The difference between them in the receiving game is much, much, much bigger than the difference in running.

Deberg_1990
10-19-2020, 06:29 AM
The problem is that they gotta pay Henry now. I'm just not a fan of building around a RB. Not in 2020.

They don’t have to pay him do they? Agreed, I don’t like building around a RB. I’m not sure about his contract status? But I’d let him walk when it’s up.

ThaVirus
10-19-2020, 06:40 AM
Henry just got paid

Dunerdr
10-19-2020, 06:48 AM
I'd have to say Zeke/Barkley. Both currently on dogshit teams with dogshit lines and dogshit qb play though. CMC is probably the most dangerous over all but the other two are more your conventional RB. And Henry may be the most well used currently to hide his offenses issues, but imo hes far from the most talented or best at anything.

htismaqe
10-19-2020, 07:24 AM
They don’t have to pay him do they? Agreed, I don’t like building around a RB. I’m not sure about his contract status? But I’d let him walk when it’s up.

They just resigned him over the summer. 4 years, $50M with over $25M guaranteed.

Deberg_1990
10-19-2020, 08:19 AM
They just resigned him over the summer. 4 years, $50M with over $25M guaranteed.

I would definitely be looking to upgrade from Tannehill in the draft if i were them. Even if they have to move up like the Chiefs did. Hes solid, but nothing truly special

Not sure what their philosophy is about that though? Since Vrabel seems old school.

BlackOp
10-19-2020, 08:44 AM
I would definitely be looking to upgrade from Tannehill in the draft if i were them.

He's been looking fantastic...people are waiting for him to fall back to earth. It'll take a while for him to shake his stigma with the Dolphins...and being a reclamation QB.

He's a top 4 AFC QB right now...Ben, Lamar, Mahomes.

The Franchise
10-19-2020, 08:48 AM
I would definitely be looking to upgrade from Tannehill in the draft if i were them. Even if they have to move up like the Chiefs did. Hes solid, but nothing truly special

Not sure what their philosophy is about that though? Since Vrabel seems old school.

They just gave Tannehill a new deal. They aren’t taking a QB high for a year or two.

O.city
10-19-2020, 08:50 AM
McCaffrey

CoMoChief
10-19-2020, 09:05 AM
Henry

PAChiefsGuy
10-19-2020, 09:14 AM
Henry and I don't think it is particularly close. 212 yds rushing yesterday. Pretty amazing

htismaqe
10-19-2020, 09:16 AM
He's been looking fantastic...people are waiting for him to fall back to earth. It'll take a while for him to shake his stigma with the Dolphins...and being a reclamation QB.

He's a top 4 AFC QB right now...Ben, Lamar, Mahomes.

He's a reclamation QB for a reason. Right now, they run a ton of play action and it is working. He's playing FAR above his career line. It won't last forever.

Rain Man
10-19-2020, 09:36 AM
I've barely seen McCaffrey play, so my only solid knowledge about him is that his father was a wimp who acted like he was injured on every single catch of his career. So I vote no on McCaffrey.

Henry's hard to vote against, and Chubb sure seems effective on Cleveland teams that are erratic. I would like Kamara a lot in our system, and he's great overall. But it's hard to vote against Henry at this point. The guy's a monster.

PAChiefsGuy
10-19-2020, 10:16 AM
I've barely seen McCaffrey play, so my only solid knowledge about him is that his father was a wimp who acted like he was injured on every single catch of his career. So I vote no on McCaffrey.

Henry's hard to vote against, and Chubb sure seems effective on Cleveland teams that are erratic. I would like Kamara a lot in our system, and he's great overall. But it's hard to vote against Henry at this point. The guy's a monster.

Very rarely do you find an RB with his speed and power. Crazy Titans didn't resign him to a monster contract and instead signed Tannehill. Henry is heart and soul of that team.

gblowfish
10-19-2020, 10:17 AM
Henry or Kamara. Dark horse is Kareem Hunt.

Kman34
10-19-2020, 10:24 AM
Ubeja is probably having a heart attack over this thread and I love it.....

tk13
10-19-2020, 10:29 AM
I think Dalvin Cook is the one who will almost always be underrated in this discussion. Definitely been injury prone, but many RBs are. I think he's really good though.

Hard to beat McCaffery since he's coming off a 1000/1000 yard season. That's pretty rarefied air. Henry is up there, he's a different kind of RB though. In a way his critics are right that he's not as consistent, but that's not how he works. He is basically a battering ram that just wears you down and by the 2nd half he runs over you.

It's funny because he does the same thing over the course of a season. I've seen people criticize him for averaging 3 ypc this year, but it was pretty similar last year. He averaged less than 4 ypc the first half last year, and in November/December he was single handedly mauling teams. He just gets stronger the more he goes. We'll see if that happens this year.

kevrunner
10-19-2020, 10:42 AM
1) CMC
2) Barkley
3) Zeke
4) Kamara
5) Henry
6) Cook
7) Jacobs
8) Sanders
9) Mixon
10) Chubb

Rookies:

1) Taylor
2) Swift
3) Dobbins
4) CEH
5) Akers

staylor26
10-19-2020, 10:47 AM
1) CMC
2) Barkley
3) Zeke
4) Kamara
5) Henry
6) Cook
7) Jacobs
8) Sanders
9) Mixon
10) Chubb

Rookies:

1) Taylor
2) Swift
3) Dobbins
4) CEH
5) Akers

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Clyde Edwards-Helaire this season among rookie RBs:<br>�� 344 rush yards (1st)<br>�� 252 rush yards after contact (1st)<br>�� 16 missed tackles forced on runs (1st) <a href="https://t.co/6RU5r2fdB4">pic.twitter.com/6RU5r2fdB4</a></p>&mdash; PFF (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1317812937126498309?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

But sure CEH is the 4th best rookie RB :rolleyes:

alpha_omega
10-19-2020, 10:50 AM
Rashaan Shehee!!!!!!

Ha. You misspelled Jesse Haynes.

KChiefs1
10-19-2020, 10:51 AM
Future Hall of Famer, Derrick Henry.


Derrick Henry IS Jim Brown.

A man playing with boys

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loochy
10-19-2020, 10:54 AM
Laveon Bel i dont see how we can loose when he plays 4 us

ThaVirus
10-19-2020, 12:06 PM
Henry and I don't think it is particularly close. 212 yds rushing yesterday. Pretty amazing

This is ridiculous. Of course it's close.

htismaqe
10-19-2020, 12:32 PM
Very rarely do you find an RB with his speed and power. Crazy Titans didn't resign him to a monster contract and instead signed Tannehill. Henry is heart and soul of that team.

They signed Henry to a 4-year, $50M contract with $25.5M guaranteed.

kevrunner
10-19-2020, 02:14 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Clyde Edwards-Helaire this season among rookie RBs:<br>�� 344 rush yards (1st)<br>�� 252 rush yards after contact (1st)<br>�� 16 missed tackles forced on runs (1st) <a href="https://t.co/6RU5r2fdB4">pic.twitter.com/6RU5r2fdB4</a></p>&mdash; PFF (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1317812937126498309?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

But sure CEH is the 4th best rookie RB :rolleyes:

Swift just got unleashed yesterday, Dobbins will be getting way more touches now that Ingram is banged up and Taylor has been doing fine. CEH is my #4 going forward but I agree he has better stats as of today. Let’s revisit this at the end of the season.

htismaqe
10-19-2020, 02:18 PM
Swift just got unleashed yesterday, Dobbins will be getting way more touches now that Ingram is banged up and Taylor has been doing fine. CEH is my #4 going forward but I agree he has better stats as of today. Let’s revisit this at the end of the season.

Taylor isn't better than CEH. He's a grinder. Sure he's going to get his yards because they're going to feed him the ball.

Tribal Warfare
10-19-2020, 02:48 PM
Taylor isn't better than CEH. He's a grinder. Sure he's going to get his yards because they're going to feed him the ball.

Veach and Reid had their pick of the litter and CEH was it.

Tribal Warfare
10-19-2020, 02:50 PM
Ha. You misspelled Jesse Haynes.

"The Real Deal" Jesse Haynes

sedated
10-19-2020, 02:51 PM
Dobbins will be getting way more touches now that Ingram is banged up

Dobbins has been steadily losing touches to Gus Edwards.

Shoes
10-19-2020, 02:55 PM
Swift just got unleashed yesterday, Dobbins will be getting way more touches now that Ingram is banged up and Taylor has been doing fine. CEH is my #4 going forward but I agree he has better stats as of today. Let’s revisit this at the end of the season.

Taylor isn't better than CEH. He's a grinder. Sure he's going to get his yards because they're going to feed him the ball.

I want the record to show that I believe Jonathan Taylor is Knile Davis 2.0 without the fumbling issues.

I'll live with the consequences if I'm wrong.

BWillie
10-19-2020, 03:05 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Clyde Edwards-Helaire this season among rookie RBs:<br>�� 344 rush yards (1st)<br>�� 252 rush yards after contact (1st)<br>�� 16 missed tackles forced on runs (1st) <a href="https://t.co/6RU5r2fdB4">pic.twitter.com/6RU5r2fdB4</a></p>&mdash; PFF (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1317812937126498309?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

But sure CEH is the 4th best rookie RB :rolleyes:

I mean sure, but that is because he has higher usage than those other backs.

htismaqe
10-19-2020, 03:27 PM
I mean sure, but that is because he has higher usage than those other backs.

Jonathan Taylor has more touches than Helaire.

RealSNR
10-19-2020, 03:44 PM
Jonathan Taylor has more touches than Helaire.

Ubeja is seething

Bearcat
10-19-2020, 03:55 PM
Ubeja is seething

He's actually still comparing college stats in the RR. LMAO

kevrunner
10-19-2020, 04:29 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Clyde Edwards-Helaire this season among rookie RBs:<br>�� 344 rush yards (1st)<br>�� 252 rush yards after contact (1st)<br>�� 16 missed tackles forced on runs (1st) <a href="https://t.co/6RU5r2fdB4">pic.twitter.com/6RU5r2fdB4</a></p>&mdash; PFF (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1317812937126498309?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

But sure CEH is the 4th best rookie RB :rolleyes:

The way CEH is playing tonight, I’ll have to agree that he should be number 1, but when I had him at 4, it’s really 1A, 1B, 1C, 1D and Akers #5.

Megatron96
10-19-2020, 06:22 PM
CEH!!!!!!

mililo4cpa
10-19-2020, 06:27 PM
change my vote: CEH

synthesis2
10-19-2020, 07:13 PM
Easy

1) Lamar

2) McCaffery

3) Henry

4) Kamara

5) Bell

6) CEH

BWillie
10-19-2020, 07:15 PM
Easy

1) Lamar

2) McCaffery

3) Henry

4) Kamara

5) Bell

6) CEH

So we have the best QB, 2 of the Top 6 RBs, best TE, Top 5 WR. Is that what your trying to tell me?

lewdog
10-19-2020, 07:33 PM
CEH moved up that list tonight, especially behind our current line.

KChiefs1
10-25-2020, 10:20 AM
Henry vs the Steelers will be interesting.

htismaqe
10-25-2020, 10:33 AM
I still think McCaffery is the best overall talent at the position but there's no denying Henry is a bludgeon.

That being said, RB is a complementary piece in the modern NFL. Team's the play through the RB aren't going to win consistently. Tennessee likely gets that memo today.