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scho63
01-25-2021, 05:22 AM
I'm hoping at some point today the officiating crew or the NFL is going to let us know what the fuck was in their pea brains to have the Bills go off and take about 5 clear shots at the Chiefs and unless Okafor called the refs wife a dirty slutty cum bucket, I can't see how the hell that fiasco turned into Offsetting.

Did anyone get any clarification?

I know earlier Jones got away with a swing but that doesn't justify that farce after a 20 minute officials discussion.

What a farce.

TwistedChief
01-25-2021, 05:24 AM
We won the game.

mdchiefsfan
01-25-2021, 05:25 AM
I think justice was served when they packed their bags to head home for the season while the Chiefs are headed to Tampa.

DTVietnam
01-25-2021, 05:28 AM
we got away with this..

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Jones threw a punch at Jon Feliciano.<br><br>No call. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BillsMafia?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BillsMafia</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/Noo2MuW1VY">pic.twitter.com/Noo2MuW1VY</a></p>&mdash; Dan Fetes (@danfetes) <a href="https://twitter.com/danfetes/status/1353500084130951169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

we got the W...moving on

Otter
01-25-2021, 05:29 AM
That was indeed a WTF moment. Even Romo and Nantz were diplomatically calling it a farce.

But, as mentioned we handed buffalo their asses and we're off to the Super Bowl so there's that.

DTVietnam
01-25-2021, 05:42 AM
that play was good for our team..showed Mahomes leadership and we got to see Nnadi make the cry baby motion to the Bills

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Derrick Nnadi with the cry baby move �� <a href="https://t.co/fl5EoIsOTE">pic.twitter.com/fl5EoIsOTE</a></p>&mdash; Megan Strickland (@StricklyMeg) <a href="https://twitter.com/StricklyMeg/status/1353536712044142593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

SAGA45
01-25-2021, 05:48 AM
we got away with this..

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Jones threw a punch at Jon Feliciano.<br><br>No call. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BillsMafia?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BillsMafia</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/Noo2MuW1VY">pic.twitter.com/Noo2MuW1VY</a></p>&mdash; Dan Fetes (@danfetes) <a href="https://twitter.com/danfetes/status/1353500084130951169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

we got the W...moving on

That was a pretty good sell by Feliciano. :clap: Glad it went unseen.

Pasta Little Brioni
01-25-2021, 05:58 AM
It does need looked at. Makes no sense

Spott
01-25-2021, 06:25 AM
That was a pretty good sell by Feliciano. :clap: Glad it went unseen.

It looked less like a punch than it did like a hard push. That flop was something I’d expect from a soccer or NBA player.

thabear04
01-25-2021, 06:35 AM
that play was good for our team..showed Mahomes leadership and we got to see Nnadi make the cry baby motion to the Bills

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Derrick Nnadi with the cry baby move �� <a href="https://t.co/fl5EoIsOTE">pic.twitter.com/fl5EoIsOTE</a></p>&mdash; Megan Strickland (@StricklyMeg) <a href="https://twitter.com/StricklyMeg/status/1353536712044142593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mahomes does have leadership during the drive his Linemen was waving good bye. And you can tell Mahomes was like knock it off don’t do that.

morphius
01-25-2021, 06:57 AM
That was a pretty good sell by Feliciano. :clap: Glad it went unseen.

Almost looked like Feliciano punched jones in the side. Would love to see that other angle.

morphius
01-25-2021, 07:00 AM
I think it was him "taunting" Allen by yelling at him, after he got the ball thrown at him. It was a pretty late hit as well. I think it is stupid that 1 PI penalty offsets 3.

Dunerdr
01-25-2021, 07:09 AM
that play was good for our team..showed Mahomes leadership and we got to see Nnadi make the cry baby motion to the Bills

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Derrick Nnadi with the cry baby move �� <a href="https://t.co/fl5EoIsOTE">pic.twitter.com/fl5EoIsOTE</a></p>&mdash; Megan Strickland (@StricklyMeg) <a href="https://twitter.com/StricklyMeg/status/1353536712044142593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I love the leadership from mahomes to steady the bois and try to keep focus.

And honestly im not mad about the Okafor thing, he played with some fire and was a part of keeping Allen uncomfortable.

displacedinMN
01-25-2021, 07:16 AM
all stupid especially when you have NY in your ear. SHould have been 2 ejections

chiefzilla1501
01-25-2021, 07:54 AM
Yeah, I'm not outraged but the rule needs to change. You're inviting a retaliating team to go open season on trashing a guy. Doesn't seem like something the NFL wants to promote.

Frazod
01-25-2021, 07:57 AM
The game was basically over. Perhaps they would have handled it differently otherwise.

I'm just glad they offset everything after taking into account that the play was over so the huge sack yardage still counted. In the end, that was all that mattered.

Bwana
01-25-2021, 08:01 AM
That was a pretty good sell by Feliciano. :clap: Glad it went unseen.


Yeah that was a flop that would make a soccer player blush.

Molitoth
01-25-2021, 08:01 AM
on one play and mystery call on Chief's

It wasn't that mysterious. There had been like 3 whistles to kill the play and Okafor came in and speared Allen to the ground. It was a blatant late hit.

It was going to be 15 yard anyway, and if the game wasn't already a bit out of hand, I'd say the Chiefs got lucky that the Bills melted down to offset it.

And like mentioned above, Chris Jones got away with punching someone in the face. He should have been ejected early on. Hopefully he doesn't pull that shit in the Super Bowl.

OrtonsPiercedTaint
01-25-2021, 08:02 AM
Rivers took a shot at Jones with a ball. Could be Allen is headed down that path. I have seen the comparisons before

threebag
01-25-2021, 08:09 AM
Almost looked like Feliciano punched jones in the side. Would love to see that other angle.

That’s what it looks like. See ya next year, Fellacio

Pilsner
01-25-2021, 08:17 AM
The offsetting penalties were dumb. Hopefully the rules committee can get that bug patched this offseason.

Even dumber however is that Josh Allen is allowed to fall back 15 fucking yards, and while diving out of bounds, allowed to half heartedly limp wrist the ball forward to avoid a loss because he technically hasn't landed yet. If defensive players aren't allowed to hit a quarterback when they're flying out of bounds, quarterbacks shouldn't be allowed to "attempt a throw" while flying out of bounds in order to avoid a loss. I don't care if his foot hasn't touched yet, there was no meaningful attempt at completing that fucking ball. He got away with it twice and it was horseshit both times.

That shit needs fixing.

loochy
01-25-2021, 08:22 AM
The offsetting penalties were dumb. Hopefully the rules committee can get that bug patched this offseason.

Even dumber however is that Josh Allen is allowed to fall back 15 fucking yards, and while diving out of bounds, allowed to half heartedly limp wrist the ball forward to avoid a loss because he technically hasn't landed yet. If defensive players aren't allowed to hit a quarterback when they're flying out of bounds, quarterbacks shouldn't be allowed to "attempt a throw" while flying out of bounds in order to avoid a loss. I don't care if his foot hasn't touched yet, there was no meaningful attempt at completing that fucking ball. He got away with it twice and it was horseshit both times.

That shit needs fixing.


It's just like any other time they throw the ball away




as long as it gets back to the line of scrimmage

Red Dawg
01-25-2021, 08:23 AM
We mopped the floor with Bills and Browns.

Pilsner
01-25-2021, 08:24 AM
It's just like any other time they throw the ball away




as long as it gets back to the line of scrimmage

My problem is how many times have you seen a personal foul called on a defensive player making a play on the QB on the sideline for roughing? It creates this stupid grey area on the field where a quarterback can't be touched but is still allowed to attempt a "pass".

Frazod
01-25-2021, 08:24 AM
We mopped the floor with Bills and Browns.

The Browns put up much more of a fight.

joethomas
01-25-2021, 08:27 AM
It was after the play and there were fouls on both teams, and none greater than the other so they offset. I think the reason it doesn't come up is because they don't usually bother to penalize 10 different players when there's a scrum

The Franchise
01-25-2021, 08:40 AM
He stood over him and taunted him. Thats going to be called 10 out of 10 times.

Ming the Merciless
01-25-2021, 08:40 AM
probably should've been 2 ejections on that play.

the offsetting was bullshit. look what happened the very next play.. the refs let that game get out of hand at that moment.

Garcia Bronco
01-25-2021, 08:58 AM
It was like watching that scene out the Replacements.

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ThaVirus
01-25-2021, 08:59 AM
Eh, I think guys on both sides all around were wrong there.

Okafor definitely came in well after the whistle was blown and put Allen down, Allen threw the ball at his face, Okafor stood over Allen and taunted him, #73 came in and laid him out, then #76 gave Okafor a little extra while he was still on the ground, then Jones was a putting his hands all over the ref trying to get to #76.

Ultimately, I'm more inclined to blame our guys for the whole thing. Allen is a big dude so playing to/through the whistle is a bit excusable for Okafor, but why are you taunting him? Who gives a shit if he tossed the ball at your head. YOU'RE GOING TO THE SUPER BOWL. And don't even get me started on Chris Jones. That idiot threw a fucking punch in the 1st quarter. He literally had two plays in which he should have been ejected.

I feel like a lot of guys on this team are just fucking stupid sometimes.

oldman
01-25-2021, 09:00 AM
He stood over him and taunted him. Thats going to be called 10 out of 10 times.

After Allen threw the ball at his head. I'd take offense at that, too. Those should have offset, but not 3 on the Bills vs. 1 on the Chiefs. Just my take.

rabblerouser
01-25-2021, 09:02 AM
It's just like any other time they throw the ball away




as long as it gets back to the line of scrimmage

He did actually get flagged for that shit toward the end of the game for NOT getting it back to the line of scrimmage, though.

I mean, the refs were kinda spotty, but I think they did a decent job of letting them play. If anything, they cracked down on our man coverages when we blitzed by calling holds and DPIs on us but letting the Buffalo Oline hold the shit out of Jones and Okafor.

rabblerouser
01-25-2021, 09:09 AM
After Allen threw the ball at his head. I'd take offense at that, too. Those should have offset, but not 3 on the Bills vs. 1 on the Chiefs. Just my take.

It WASNT a "late hit" by Okafor though - he was launching himself as the whistle blew, and ALLEN WAS STILL FIGHTING and not going down, not giving himself up. Okafor had every right in trying to get Allen down.

The flag on Okafor was for standing over Allen and taunting.

The refs listed them in order when they ran off the offenses :

Allen first, for throwing the ball at Okafor's head (ejectable offense)

Okafor's taunting, standing over Allen

#73's late hit on Okafor (understandable, he's protecting his QB)

#76 giving Okafor the business on the ground (ejectable offense)


Chris Jones is lucky he didn't get ejected a couple times, but it seems that officiating crew was either kind of incompetent or was just letting them play...

chiefzilla1501
01-25-2021, 09:12 AM
It was after the play and there were fouls on both teams, and none greater than the other so they offset. I think the reason it doesn't come up is because they don't usually bother to penalize 10 different players when there's a scrum

There's two problems with what happened. 1. Basically invited open season on retaliation. If the Chiefs get a penalty, the bills can have ten guys go to town on him. 2. This was lobsided. If they called a late hit on okafor, sure, offset. But by the refs measure, Allen instigated, okafor reacted, then the bills retaliated. That's two penalties vs one. I'm not outraged by the thing. I just think it's a weird rule that allows for open season on going after a taunter.

DaFace
01-25-2021, 09:12 AM
The offsetting thing is a little odd, but I can see why they wouldn't want them to stack. It would be a mess if a team got like 5 PFs and got backed up 75 yards or whatever.

I guess you could say it should be 15 to whatever team got more of them, but meh. It doesn't bother me much.

Kultamine
01-25-2021, 09:16 AM
I'm hoping at some point today the officiating crew or the NFL is going to let us know what the **** was in their pea brains to have the Bills go off and take about 5 clear shots at the Chiefs and unless Okafor called the refs wife a dirty slutty cum bucket, I can't see how the hell that fiasco turned into Offsetting.

Did anyone get any clarification?

I know earlier Jones got away with a swing but that doesn't justify that farce after a 20 minute officials discussion.

What a farce.

Okafor rather gently slung Allen to the ground. Replays did not include the audio so hard to know how long after the whistle blew it was. Allen had escaped many times and so it seems they let this action of Okafor’s go uncalled.

Allen throws the ball and hits Okafor in the helmet. Automatic personal foul.

Okafor takes umbrage and starts to stand over Allen presumably while jawing and. This lasts for about 0.75 sec before he gets blasted out of there. But his intention was clear, namely he was going to say “It hurt my feelings when you did that, Joshey “ or something to that effect. Clear intention but again, he did not get the chance.

Two clear personal fouls on the Bills blindside cheap shots.

Summary using a criminal analogy: Battery with a weapon(a football at 13psi unless it was Tom’s) + manslaughter + 1st degree murder = conspiracy to verbally Assault.

Ming the Merciless
01-25-2021, 09:17 AM
The offsetting thing is a little odd, but I can see why they wouldn't want them to stack. It would be a mess if a team got like 5 PFs and got backed up 75 yards or whatever.

I guess you could say it should be 15 to whatever team got more of them, but meh. It doesn't bother me much.

it is odd...but rule change definitely needed. I understand they're both 15 yards, but a flagrant personal foul should be weighed more heavily than a taunt. also, the 2 ejections would've made this fair. shocked they didn't eject at least 1 guy on that play...

oldman
01-25-2021, 09:17 AM
I guess you could say it should be 15 to whatever team got more of them, but meh.

I agree, there should have been another 15 added to the loss.

Sure-Oz
01-25-2021, 09:19 AM
The offsetting penalties were dumb. Hopefully the rules committee can get that bug patched this offseason.

Even dumber however is that Josh Allen is allowed to fall back 15 fucking yards, and while diving out of bounds, allowed to half heartedly limp wrist the ball forward to avoid a loss because he technically hasn't landed yet. If defensive players aren't allowed to hit a quarterback when they're flying out of bounds, quarterbacks shouldn't be allowed to "attempt a throw" while flying out of bounds in order to avoid a loss. I don't care if his foot hasn't touched yet, there was no meaningful attempt at completing that fucking ball. He got away with it twice and it was horseshit both times.

That shit needs fixing.Thought I read somewhere that pass shouldn't have been reviewed either since he was ruled out of bounds kindve like the down by contact

chiefzilla1501
01-25-2021, 09:20 AM
The offsetting thing is a little odd, but I can see why they wouldn't want them to stack. It would be a mess if a team got like 5 PFs and got backed up 75 yards or whatever.

I guess you could say it should be 15 to whatever team got more of them, but meh. It doesn't bother me much.

Probably another 15. Maybe vinovich was subtly hinting that the bills second act offset with a borderline roughing call. At the very least someone should have gotten tossed.

BWillie
01-25-2021, 09:42 AM
that play was good for our team..showed Mahomes leadership and we got to see Nnadi make the cry baby motion to the Bills

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Derrick Nnadi with the cry baby move �� <a href="https://t.co/fl5EoIsOTE">pic.twitter.com/fl5EoIsOTE</a></p>&mdash; Megan Strickland (@StricklyMeg) <a href="https://twitter.com/StricklyMeg/status/1353536712044142593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I saw that live. That was quite good.

kcclone
01-25-2021, 09:50 AM
we got away with this..

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Jones threw a punch at Jon Feliciano.<br><br>No call. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BillsMafia?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BillsMafia</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/Noo2MuW1VY">pic.twitter.com/Noo2MuW1VY</a></p>&mdash; Dan Fetes (@danfetes) <a href="https://twitter.com/danfetes/status/1353500084130951169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

we got the W...moving on

Hardly a punch, IMO. More of a push to the shoulder.

Boiled Chicken
01-25-2021, 09:51 AM
It looked less like a punch than it did like a hard push. That flop was something I’d expect from a soccer or NBA player.

I think that was part of the reason it got chippy at the end, Feliciano was getting easily handled for most of the game.

kcclone
01-25-2021, 09:52 AM
My only beef with that exchange, is that whole thing was set off because Josh Allen threw the ball at Okafor. And I don't believe he was penalized.

Molitoth
01-25-2021, 09:53 AM
Hardly a punch, IMO. More of a push to the shoulder.

Still a dumb move.

He has to be smarter than that.

SeattleChiefFan
01-25-2021, 09:57 AM
My only beef with that exchange, is that whole thing was set off because Josh Allen threw the ball at Okafor. And I don't believe he was penalized.

He was. It was the Unsportsmanlike call on the Bills. The other two were personal fouls.

The Franchise
01-25-2021, 09:57 AM
My only beef with that exchange, is that whole thing was set off because Josh Allen threw the ball at Okafor. And I don't believe he was penalized.

He was.

MahiMike
01-25-2021, 10:15 AM
I was pretty sure they'd call offsetting penalties there. The refs were trying to make everyone happy to cut down on more fights.

tmax63
01-25-2021, 10:32 AM
Jones threw a punch in that first exchange and didn't get caught. The in-studio ex-ref spokesman said the officials would attempt to get control of the game during that scrum without "determining" the game whatever that means. I think what he meant was if the refs threw out those 2 guys from the Bills, which they could have, it would have effectively ended the game right then and the refs didn't want to be accused of that especially after the DPI at the end of the GB-Buc game that did end the game.

JakeF
01-25-2021, 10:48 AM
It was good to see us angry and physical.

We got screwed but that play fired us up. We need that a little bit.

FloridaMan88
01-25-2021, 10:52 AM
Josh Allen throwing the football at Okafor's head started it all.

That's a Mason Rudolph bitch move... not something you'd expect from an alleged franchise QB.

Bugeater
01-25-2021, 11:03 AM
I was pissed at the time, but in hindsight it was probably an attempt to diffuse a situation in a game that was all but over with.

gblowfish
01-25-2021, 11:05 AM
Bills go off and take about 5 clear shots at the Chiefs and unless Okafor called the refs wife a dirty slutty cum bucket, I can't see how the hell that fiasco turned into Offsetting.

Well, is she? If so, he's just guilty of character definition.

SupDock
01-25-2021, 11:07 AM
My only beef with that exchange, is that whole thing was set off because Josh Allen threw the ball at Okafor. And I don't believe he was penalized.

I did think Josh Allen was the victim of a late hit there, though. Some of the blame is on the refs for waiting so long to blow the whistle though. He was in the grasp for quite some time. I get wanting him to make a play, giving him a chance, but with how protected quarterbacks are it puts the defense in a very tough position

Oxford
01-25-2021, 11:45 AM
I did think Josh Allen was the victim of a late hit there, though. Some of the blame is on the refs for waiting so long to blow the whistle though. He was in the grasp for quite some time. I get wanting him to make a play, giving him a chance, but with how protected quarterbacks are it puts the defense in a very tough position

The whistles will be quick against TB.... you can bet that on rushing Brady

New World Order
01-25-2021, 11:46 AM
Our guy gets a football thrown at him. Then gets a blindside hit. Then another blindside hit.

No ejections. Penalties offset

-King-
01-25-2021, 12:20 PM
that play was good for our team..showed Mahomes leadership and we got to see Nnadi make the cry baby motion to the Bills

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Derrick Nnadi with the cry baby move �� <a href="https://t.co/fl5EoIsOTE">pic.twitter.com/fl5EoIsOTE</a></p>&mdash; Megan Strickland (@StricklyMeg) <a href="https://twitter.com/StricklyMeg/status/1353536712044142593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Didn't see Nnadi do that LMAO LMAO LMAO

loochy
01-25-2021, 12:23 PM
The whistles will be quick against TB.... you can bet that on rushing Brady


Well,


1 - we probably won't get close to Brady because he gets the ball out fast. He's a smart, wily MFer.


2- if we do get to him, he'll go fetal on his own to protect the ball and to protect himself. We won't NEED to pile on late.