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Sassy Squatch
01-27-2021, 08:38 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> are working towards a deal with David Culley to make him their head coach, sources tell me, <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RapSheet</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MikeGarafolo</a>.</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1354618806820343808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

comochiefsfan
01-27-2021, 08:40 PM
Just looked this guy up.

He’s the Ravens wide receivers coach and passing game coordinator.

The two worst aspects of the Baltimore offense.

Wtf is Houston doing?

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
01-27-2021, 08:41 PM
Just looked this guy up.

He’s the Ravens wide receivers coach and passing game coordinator.

The two worst aspects of the Baltimore offense.

Wtf is Houston doing?

He was also the Chief WR coach when we scored 0 TDs

staylor26
01-27-2021, 08:41 PM
Just looked this guy up.

He’s the Ravens wide receivers coach and passing game coordinator.

The two worst aspects of the Baltimore offense.

Wtf is Houston doing?

You had to look him up? He was out WR coach for Andy’s first few seasons.

Terrible hire though. The Texans are a disgrace.

Sassy Squatch
01-27-2021, 08:42 PM
Just looked this guy up.

He’s the Ravens wide receivers coach and passing game coordinator.

The two worst aspects of the Baltimore offense.

Wtf is Houston doing?
Black head coach to shut Deshaun Watson up while being heavily religious to appease Easterby.

tyecopeland
01-27-2021, 08:43 PM
Just looked this guy up.

He’s the Ravens wide receivers coach and passing game coordinator.

The two worst aspects of the Baltimore offense.

Wtf is Houston doing?

And just think texans fans thought better days were ahead when BoB got fired.

Jamie
01-27-2021, 08:43 PM
When you have a chance to hire a 65 year old first-time head coach, you gotta do it.

comochiefsfan
01-27-2021, 08:43 PM
You had to look him up? He was out WR coach for Andy’s first few seasons.

Holy shit you’re right

Lmao.

To be fair I couldn’t name a handful of the chiefs position coaches right now, let alone several years ago.

Texans are so fucked.

Deberg_1990
01-27-2021, 08:43 PM
DeShaun to the Jets!

Sassy Squatch
01-27-2021, 08:44 PM
Kind of annoying the Ravens get 2 third round compensatory picks while getting rid of arguably their weakest coach.

Pasta Little Brioni
01-27-2021, 08:45 PM
What???? ROFL

comochiefsfan
01-27-2021, 08:45 PM
Kind of annoying the Ravens get 2 third round compensatory picks while getting rid of arguably their weakest coach.

Part of me almost wonders if teams are somewhat hesitant to hire EB for that reason.

They don’t want to give Veach more draft picks.

Pasta Little Brioni
01-27-2021, 08:45 PM
Bienemy really isn't viewed favorably....at all

OrtonsPiercedTaint
01-27-2021, 08:46 PM
I wonder in his interview, if he just randomly spoke in tongues

tyecopeland
01-27-2021, 08:48 PM
His resume sure is noteworthy.

His tenure as a positional coach includes being the WR coach for a Chiefs offense that scored zero WR touchdowns, being the QB coach for Josh Allen's 10/12 TD/INT rookie season, and being the passing-game coordinator of the Ravens most recently.

siberian khatru
01-27-2021, 08:51 PM
Texans heard they needed to hire Andy Reid’s black offensive assistant, and this is who their Google search came up with.

Coochie liquor
01-27-2021, 08:51 PM
His resume sure is noteworthy.

Well, sounds like Houston is even further away from contention than just a day ago. Lmao, poor Texans fans.

MMXcalibur
01-27-2021, 08:51 PM
Just looked this guy up.

He’s the Ravens wide receivers coach and passing game coordinator.

The two worst aspects of the Baltimore offense.

Wtf is Houston doing?

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

OrtonsPiercedTaint
01-27-2021, 08:53 PM
The Chargers will send a free Herbert jersey to all interested Texan fans

carcosa
01-27-2021, 08:53 PM
Whovid Whatty?

Deberg_1990
01-27-2021, 08:53 PM
Is it too soon for the Texans to begin searching for their next HC hire in 2023?

Kman34
01-27-2021, 08:54 PM
Who??

TribalElder
01-27-2021, 08:54 PM
I was way wrong, I figured they were holding out for EB

The NFL needs to put a moratorium in place on hiring coaches until after the superbowl

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
01-27-2021, 09:03 PM
the guy who coordinates the worst passing attack in the league got a job before the guy who coordinates the best passing attack in the league

RealSNR
01-27-2021, 09:03 PM
Black head coach to shut Deshaun Watson up while being heavily religious to appease Easterby.

Herm Edwards is black and religious. And he would be a much better hire than this guy.

Yeah, this choice is that bad.

The Franchise
01-27-2021, 09:03 PM
Eric “There’s always next year” Bieniemy

dirk digler
01-27-2021, 09:03 PM
I think this is pretty much proves that no one wanted this job

Sassy Squatch
01-27-2021, 09:05 PM
Herm Edwards is black and religious. And he would be a much better hire than this guy.

Yeah, this choice is that bad.
Not arguing that.

Mecca
01-27-2021, 09:05 PM
The only upside of this is has we lost Bieniemy he likely would have taken some of our assistants with him.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
01-27-2021, 09:05 PM
EB just stay the course and wait till Reid leaves.

Hammock Parties
01-27-2021, 09:06 PM
Texans planning to suck dick for at least four more years.

Gravedigger
01-27-2021, 09:06 PM
Because when you think Ravens, you think excellent Wide Recievers. This is why the Texans will forever suck.

chiefswillriseup
01-27-2021, 09:07 PM
lol.. Ravens didn't even have a passing game

GloucesterChief
01-27-2021, 09:07 PM
Watson should give McNair the trade me ultimatum.

Mecca
01-27-2021, 09:07 PM
Because when you think Ravens, you think excellent Wide Recievers. This is why the Texans will forever suck.

I believe he was Reid's assistant HC for awhile but this is a head scratching hire.

Clyde Frog
01-27-2021, 09:09 PM
Holy crap what a mess

Mecca
01-27-2021, 09:12 PM
Wow the 49ers are getting 4 comp picks from hires.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
01-27-2021, 09:12 PM
So which team does Deshaun go to?

mkp785
01-27-2021, 09:19 PM
So which team does Deshaun go to?

As Mecca brought up Niners have a ton of picks. If I was him I'd much rather go there then take a risk on Selah making the Jets an offensive juggernaut. Throwing to Kittle, Deebo and Ayuick is worlds better than w/e the NYJ will produce in 2021.

displacedinMN
01-27-2021, 09:20 PM
Wtf is Houston doing?

Being Houston. Not interested in winning.

Coach
01-27-2021, 09:21 PM
Holy shit....

What in the actual fuck are the Texans doing?

Mecca
01-27-2021, 09:21 PM
49ers are the best option for both teams.

Mecca
01-27-2021, 09:21 PM
Holy shit....

What in the actual fuck are the Texans doing?

I'm guessing he answered every question with Jesus or God.

FloridaMan88
01-27-2021, 09:26 PM
The passing game coordinator for the 32nd ranked passing offense gets a HC job, while the OC for the 1st ranked passing offense does not.

Miles
01-27-2021, 09:26 PM
Weird hire

Dante84
01-27-2021, 09:28 PM
Fuck I wanted those picks for EB.

Chief Roundup
01-27-2021, 09:29 PM
Wonder how many picks they are going to get for Watson?

Mecca
01-27-2021, 09:29 PM
Fuck I wanted those picks for EB.

But on the plus side we're on SB 2 and lost no coaches.

chiefzilla1501
01-27-2021, 09:29 PM
65 year old head coach. Hasn't coordinated an nfl offense. Nobody else is interviewing him.

Houston wanted a head coach they can control. If they can't have the patriot way they're going to find a weak head coach they can jam the patriot way into.

Mecca
01-27-2021, 09:30 PM
Wonder how many picks they are going to get for Watson?

Probably 3 1's. With other stuff.

Chief Roundup
01-27-2021, 09:30 PM
Eric “I will wait for the perfect job” Bieniemy

He wants to go to Denver or Cincinnati.

notorious
01-27-2021, 09:30 PM
The passing game coordinator for the 32nd ranked passing offense gets a HC job, while the OC for the 1st ranked passing offense does not.

It's a fucking miracle that he got a RB to pass for that many yards.

Jesus wouldn't touch that miracle with a 10 foot pole.

penchief
01-27-2021, 09:33 PM
Wow. Texans fans aren’t even allowed to experience the hope of a new day.

Dante84
01-27-2021, 09:34 PM
But on the plus side we're on SB 2 and lost no coaches.

True, but I do generally wonder how much he does. (I know, I know...)

Now that the spots are filled I can talk out of the other side of my mouth.

Mecca
01-27-2021, 09:35 PM
Easterby: David what is your coaching style?

Culley: Jesus take the wheel!

Easterby: Hired! Now let us pray.

Dante84
01-27-2021, 09:35 PM
I also hope the butterfly effect of this doesn't result in us losing Kafka.

notorious
01-27-2021, 09:35 PM
Wow. Talk about out of the frying pan and into the fire. I think I actually feel sorry for Texans fans. They can’t even experience the hope of a new day.

We lived their despair for about 4 seasons during the PiolAIDS era.


Our ownership pulled their heads out of their ass. Houston fans are completely fucked.

Mecca
01-27-2021, 09:36 PM
True, but I do generally wonder how much he does. (I know, I know...)

Now that the spots are filled I can talk out of the other side of my mouth.

My biggest fear of EB leaving is him taking Brendan Daly to be his DC.

FloridaMan88
01-27-2021, 09:37 PM
Rumor is Lovie Smith might be his DC in Houston.

Coach
01-27-2021, 09:37 PM
I'm guessing he answered every question with Jesus or God.

Unless this guy can part the Gulf of Mexico or change water into wine, this is not going to end well.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
01-27-2021, 09:38 PM
Pump the brakes!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">David Culley, traveling to Houston on Tuesday for his second job interview with Texans, coached Deshaun Watson in the Pro Bowl last year as part of Ravens&#39; coaching staff. Watson and Culley built a really good connection that week, according to sources</p>&mdash; Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1353843248167583744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise
01-27-2021, 09:40 PM
Wait....do the Ravens get comp picks now? Fucking pricks.

The Franchise
01-27-2021, 09:41 PM
Pump the brakes!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">David Culley, traveling to Houston on Tuesday for his second job interview with Texans, coached Deshaun Watson in the Pro Bowl last year as part of Ravens&#39; coaching staff. Watson and Culley built a really good connection that week, according to sources</p>&mdash; Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1353843248167583744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If Watson stays because of Culley than he deserves to never win shit.

chiefzilla1501
01-27-2021, 09:42 PM
So they're keeping the offensive coordinator and looking for a role for McCown.

Looks like they're looking into lovie Smith for DC. At least that's outside the box. But still underwhelming.

Mecca
01-27-2021, 09:43 PM
Wait....do the Ravens get comp picks now? Fucking pricks.

They do, they get 2, Rams get 2, 49ers get 4 Saints get 2.

Mecca
01-27-2021, 09:43 PM
So they're keeping the offensive coordinator and looking for a role for McCown.

Looks like they're looking into lovie Smith for DC. At least that's outside the box. But still underwhelming.

He's not putting his own staff together, this is how he got hired.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-27-2021, 09:47 PM
The Texans are the worst run organization in sports right now.

Indian Chief
01-27-2021, 09:47 PM
Watson staying in Houston would be tremendous. They'll never right that ship and his talent will be wasted. I can't see them threatening the Chiefs.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
01-27-2021, 09:48 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> are also targeting Josh McCown and Lovie Smith for spots on David Culley’s coaching staff, sources tell <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MikeGarafolo</a> and me. Moving quickly. <a href="https://t.co/DIG0JMLG2a">https://t.co/DIG0JMLG2a</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1354631969330634756?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sassy Squatch
01-27-2021, 09:48 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another big factor: Culley will enter as the exact opposite of O&#39;Brien on Kirby. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> can maintain top-down control and allow Caserio, Easterby to run organization without interference. O&#39;Brien wanted power from start and soaked it up as years passed.</p>&mdash; Brian T. Smith (@ChronBrianSmith) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/status/1354634437816954883?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RealSNR
01-27-2021, 09:49 PM
Wow the 49ers are getting 4 comp picks from hires.

How do the Niners get 4? Saleh and...?

Mecca
01-27-2021, 09:51 PM
How do the Niners get 4? Saleh and...?

Washington hired Martin Mayhew, front office guys also count.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
01-27-2021, 10:00 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">During his interview, new Texans coach David Culley broached the topic of not having previous coordinator experience like most and asked Nick Caserio if that was a problem. Caserio told Culley that wasn&#39;t an issue and was focused on his coaching skills and character, per sources.</p>&mdash; Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1354636488378638336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Marco Polo
01-27-2021, 10:02 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">During his interview, new Texans coach David Culley broached the topic of not having previous coordinator experience like most and asked Nick Caserio if that was a problem. Caserio told Culley that wasn&#39;t an issue and was focused on his coaching skills and character, per sources.</p>— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1354636488378638336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Well that sounds like bullshit

staylor26
01-27-2021, 10:03 PM
I’m pretty sure the 49ers don’t get 2 more picks for Mayhew, just 1 more.

3 consecutive years of 3rd round comp picks.

Mecca
01-27-2021, 10:09 PM
I’m pretty sure the 49ers don’t get 2 more picks for Mayhew, just 1 more.

3 consecutive years of 3rd round comp picks.

I read they get 4, could be wrong, everyone has the Saints and Rams getting 2 for Holmes and Fontenot.

Mecca
01-27-2021, 10:11 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">During his interview, new Texans coach David Culley broached the topic of not having previous coordinator experience like most and asked Nick Caserio if that was a problem. Caserio told Culley that wasn&#39;t an issue and was focused on his coaching skills and character, per sources.</p>&mdash; Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1354636488378638336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What if real job interviews went this way?

So I'm not qualified...

No big deal man you're hired anyway.

smithandrew051
01-27-2021, 10:12 PM
Didn’t he play Joey on Full House?

RealSNR
01-27-2021, 10:13 PM
I read they get 4, could be wrong, everyone has the Saints and Rams getting 2 for Holmes and Fontenot.

You get 2 picks if one of your guys is hired.

If two of your guys are hired, it's only 3 picks, not 4

mkp785
01-27-2021, 10:15 PM
What if real job interviews went this way?

So I'm not qualified...

No big deal man you're hired anyway.

This really feels like they're trying to hire a black face to show mediocre effort for Watson. This guy couldn't be any more unqualified.

Hope he asks out still and burns these idiots.

comochiefsfan
01-27-2021, 10:15 PM
Really sucks that we developed the best candidate and we won't get rewarded for it because of the sheer stupidity of the other organizations.

OrtonsPiercedTaint
01-27-2021, 10:17 PM
I hope Watson okayed the hire but demands to be traded any way

mkp785
01-27-2021, 10:18 PM
**** I wanted those picks for EB.

This. We really could've used those to help with the Oline problems we have.

:(:shake::mad:

staylor26
01-27-2021, 10:18 PM
Really sucks that we developed the best candidate and we won't get rewarded for it because of the sheer stupidity of the other organizations.

Yea when you think about it like that it’s horseshit.

There’s just no logical explanation for preferring guys like Culley and Frazier over EB.

ljmhawk
01-27-2021, 10:19 PM
EB must have some horrible answers in his interviews.

Mecca
01-27-2021, 10:21 PM
Yea when you think about it like that it’s horseshit.

There’s just no logical explanation for preferring guys like Culley and Frazier over EB.

They hired a guy that would never get another chance like this...you usually hire those guys when you want a yes man that'll take coaches you want to hire not say shit and just do what he's told.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
01-27-2021, 10:22 PM
EB must have some horrible answers in his interviews.

So Eric it says you have been a top 5 offense the past 3 years, how could you translate that to the Texans? EB - “Do you have a Mahomes” Texans - No but we have a Deshaun. EB - I think my work here is done for today. I’ll be back in KC

tk13
01-27-2021, 10:30 PM
I guess this counts as another HC in the Andy Reid tree? He spent a long time coaching with Reid and was now working with Harbaugh.

But he's also older than Reid, so good luck.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
01-27-2021, 10:33 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hearing from NFL sources directly involved that former <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Seahawks?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Seahawks</a> DC and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cowboys?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cowboys</a> defensive play-caller Kris Richard could be part of David Culley’s coaching staff with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a>.</p>&mdash; Ed Werder (@WerderEdESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/WerderEdESPN/status/1354638081857638405?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

chiefzilla1501
01-27-2021, 10:35 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">During his interview, new Texans coach David Culley broached the topic of not having previous coordinator experience like most and asked Nick Caserio if that was a problem. Caserio told Culley that wasn&#39;t an issue and was focused on his coaching skills and character, per sources.</p>&mdash; Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1354636488378638336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So I just saw that quote about "character." He's another interesting conspiracy theory. EB complained that Houston was more concerned about hiring "men of God."

David Culley, Josh McCown, Lovie Smith.... All VERY active with the fellowship of christian athletes. Does that play into some of pastor Jack's "right 53"? :hmmm:

Titty Meat
01-27-2021, 10:36 PM
S taylor lost

Titty Meat
01-27-2021, 10:37 PM
S Taylor lost

Mecca
01-27-2021, 10:37 PM
So I just saw that quote about "character." He's another interesting conspiracy theory. EB complained that Houston was more concerned about hiring "men of God."

David Culley, Josh McCown, Lovie Smith.... All VERY active with the fellowship of christian athletes. Does that play into some of pastor Jack's "right 53"? :hmmm:

We're back to it..

30 for 30, what if I told you an NFL team was hijacked by a religious cult.

Rams Fan
01-27-2021, 10:42 PM
Really sucks that we developed the best candidate and we won't get rewarded for it because of the sheer stupidity of the other organizations.

The only reason I can think why EB isn't getting offered is because of his past outside of football.

There's somethings that are....not good that show up when you look. And I'll leave it at that. And that's been mentioned previously here.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
01-27-2021, 10:44 PM
The only reason I can think why EB isn't getting offered is because of his past outside of football.

There's somethings that are....not good that show up when you look. And I'll leave it at that. And that's been mentioned previously here.

Vance Joseph got a HC job so that’s another narrative that’s false

chiefzilla1501
01-27-2021, 10:45 PM
Next few weeks will be very interesting. Rumors were flying as early as yesterday that deshaun wanted out no matter what. He had to have known Houston was seriously considering culley when those rumored comments were made. Or was this a last minute hail Mary by Houston to keep Watson?

Rams Fan
01-27-2021, 10:46 PM
Vance Joseph got a HC job so that’s another narrative that’s false

I was about to edit it again and mention Patricia.

I'm not saying it's the reason but it could be a reason.

Mecca
01-27-2021, 10:46 PM
Next few weeks will be very interesting. Rumors were flying as early as yesterday that deshaun wanted out no matter what. He had to have known Houston was seriously considering culley when those rumored comments were made. Or was this a last minute hail Mary by Houston to keep Watson?

If you go look at Charles Robinson on twitter he seems to think it's good and people in the NFL like it.

RealSNR
01-27-2021, 10:50 PM
EB must have some horrible answers in his interviews.

Stop.

Just fucking stop.

Look around. You don't need to ace jack shit in any fucking interview to get one of these jobs.

The shitty teams looking for head coaches want the convenience of not having to wait until after the Super Bowl. And if they're absolute fuckstick franchises like the Texans, they want the convenience of hiring a coach who's never going to ask questions or attempt to jostle for a faint whiff of organizational power.

As long as the Chiefs keep going to Super Bowls, Eric Bieniemy will continue to be a coordinator in Kansas City.

Hawker007
01-27-2021, 10:50 PM
I’ll say it, is Cully even a minority?

MahomesMagic
01-27-2021, 10:51 PM
And I thought bringing back Marvin Lewis was the worst idea out there.

This...is special.

Rams Fan
01-27-2021, 10:54 PM
The shitty teams looking for head coaches want the convenience of not having to wait until after the Super Bowl.

Matt Patricia and the Lions, Zac Taylor and the Bengals, Brian Flores and the Dolphins (I don't think they're shitty anymore but w/e) disagree.

tk13
01-27-2021, 10:55 PM
And I thought bringing back Marvin Lewis was the worst idea out there.

This...is special.

Honestly if they were going to hire a coach in their 60s they could have just gone with Jim Caldwell. Took the Colts to the Super Bowl and actually made the Lions a legit playoff team almost every year.

joethomas
01-27-2021, 10:55 PM
following the David Beaty template

chiefzilla1501
01-27-2021, 11:00 PM
We're back to it..

30 for 30, what if I told you an NFL team was hijacked by a religious cult.

It might explain the huge interest in Marvin Lewis, Frazier, Caldwell, McCown, culley... Most of whom nobody else really cared about. Other than EB every one of their final candidates is extremely religious. And also why they were the only team that didn't interview Saleh (Muslim) or bieniemy (made the "men of God" comment).

RealSNR
01-27-2021, 11:02 PM
Matt Patricia and the Lions, Zac Taylor and the Bengals, Brian Flores and the Dolphins (I don't think they're shitty anymore but w/e) disagree.

Then I'm out of answers. The EB past thing doesn't fucking add up. I've already had that debate on here, and I'm sick of talking about it.

Take one of these "respectable" hires, even. Arthur Smith? The inexperienced guy who made the Paul Hackett offense look like something run by Al Saunders? That guy? He's your next head coach, eh? He was the best candidate you thought you could find, eh?

Let me guess. They loved his "leadership."

Fuck that.

Fuck.

That.

Seriously. I'm this damn close to calling this bullshit racism. I don't want to hear "but black coaches get hired here and here and we had two black executives and..." That's fucking horse shit.

A franchise waited until February to hire Zac fucking Taylor. Seven teams wouldn't wait until February to hire Eric Bieniemy in this cycle, though.

Fucking horse shit.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
01-27-2021, 11:09 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Learned so much from coach my first year !!! Amazing work Texans ✌🏿 <a href="https://t.co/tThy99I71f">https://t.co/tThy99I71f</a></p>&mdash; Ty Hill (@cheetah) <a href="https://twitter.com/cheetah/status/1354657570233970688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Rams Fan
01-27-2021, 11:09 PM
Then I'm out of answers. The EB past thing doesn't ****ing add up. I've already had that debate on here, and I'm sick of talking about it.

Take one of these "respectable" hires, even. Arthur Smith? The inexperienced guy who made the Paul Hackett offense look like something run by Al Saunders? That guy? He's your next head coach, eh? He was the best candidate you thought you could find, eh?

Let me guess. They loved his "leadership."

**** that.

****.

That.

Seriously. I'm this damn close to calling this bullshit racism. I don't want to hear "but black coaches get hired here and here and we had two black executives and..." That's ****ing horse shit.

A franchise waited until February to hire Zac ****ing Taylor. Seven teams wouldn't wait until February to hire Eric Bieniemy in this cycle, though.

****ing horse shit.

I don't know what to say, though I think it's almost impossible to say the Texans were racist with regards to their hire given Culley is a minority(who is making history as the oldest first time HC ever) replacing another minority who made history as the oldest HC ever while acting as an interim.

Saleh is a minority as well.

As for the other hires....

I think the Arthur Smith hire is pretty defensible, as is Sirriani, Staley. Bienemy is a more established candidate than all of them. I can understand the Campbell hire, but think EB is more established (aside from Campbell having HC experience).

Urban Meyer was hired to bring in tickets but their owner is also a minority and has been said to have given other minority HCs legit interviews(this is coming from Harold Goodwin who is the assistant HC of the Bucs ).

And the whole EB is bad at interview thing has been dismissed by guys like Rich McKay.

There has to be some reason.

Rams Fan
01-27-2021, 11:12 PM
I feel like OCs under Reid are to what DCs are under Belichick.

Except Reid's OCs have turned out to be decent HCs for the most part since he's been in KC. While everyone aside from Flores(too early to tell but this season was promising) has been shit as HC.

The most impressive HC from Belichick's tree in the NFL is O'Brien(who was a terrible GM).

RealSNR
01-27-2021, 11:16 PM
I don't know what to say, though I think it's almost impossible to say the Texans were racist with regards to their hire given Culley is a minority(who is making history as the oldest first time HC ever) replacing another minority who made history as the oldest HC ever while acting as an interim.

Saleh is a minority as well.

As for the other hires....

I think the Arthur Smith hire is pretty defensible, as is Sirriani, Staley. Bienemy is a more established candidate than all of them. I can understand the Campbell hire, but think EB is more established (aside from Campbell having HC experience).

Urban Meyer was hired to bring in tickets but their owner is also a minority and has been said to have given other minority HCs legit interviews(this is coming from Harold Goodwin who is the assistant HC of the Bucs ).

And the whole EB is bad at interview thing has been dismissed by guys like Rich McKay.

There has to be some reason.

At this point I'll bet it's Colin Kaepernick syndrome among these owners.

They hate being pressured by the media and told what to do. Kaepernick didn't get a job after he was cut for multiple reasons (many of them self-inflicted like refusing to play unless he got the red carpet and a huge contract) but I'd speculate that one of those reasons was people were screaming, "Why doesn't somebody bring him in?!!"

No owner or GM wants to be the first to give in to outside pressure on how to run a football team. And things kept boiling up until finally all franchises were just like, "You know what? Fuck this. Not touching this asshole."

I'll bet Bieniemy doesn't get a job next year, either. It sucks balls.

joethomas
01-27-2021, 11:16 PM
I don't think it matters that Shad Khan is a minority or that Saleh is a minority. Not all minorities are equal in this debate.

Still it seems like the Texans either passed on EB as every other team has due to past off the field issues or EB smartly decided not to be interested in the opening for captain of the Houston Titanic

RealSNR
01-27-2021, 11:18 PM
Also, let's just say I fully support the Chargers hiring Brandon Staley. I'm a huge fan of him being the head coach in our division.

chiefzilla1501
01-27-2021, 11:19 PM
I don't know what to say, though I think it's almost impossible to say the Texans were racist with regards to their hire given Culley is a minority(who is making history as the oldest first time HC ever) replacing another minority who made history as the oldest HC ever while acting as an interim.

Saleh is a minority as well.

As for the other hires....

I think the Arthur Smith hire is pretty defensible, as is Sirriani, Staley. Bienemy is a more established candidate than all of them. I can understand the Campbell hire, but think EB is more established (aside from Campbell having HC experience).

Urban Meyer was hired to bring in tickets but their owner is also a minority and has been said to have given other minority HCs legit interviews(this is coming from Harold Goodwin who is the assistant HC of the Bucs ).

And the whole EB is bad at interview thing has been dismissed by guys like Rich McKay.

There has to be some reason.

This coaching class is going to be highly scrutinized. Campbell, culley, sirriani, and to a lesser extent Staley are risky hires. 3 of those guys barely have playcalling experience. It's not like last year which had a very experienced class, other than Joe Judge.

Rams Fan
01-27-2021, 11:20 PM
I don't think it matters that Shad Khan is a minority or that Saleh is a minority. Not all minorities are equal in this debate.

Still it seems like the Texans either passed on EB as every other team has due to past off the field issues or EB smartly decided not to be interested in the opening for captain of the Houston Titanic

Goodwin's quote for reference:

“I will give credit to two owners — [Buffalo Bills’ Terry] Pegula and [Jacksonville Jaguars’] Shad Khan. They were actually in the interview,” Goodwin said this past week. “I can’t say that about the others. So, those were real interviews. I appreciated that opportunity.”

https://jaguarswire.usatoday.com/2019/01/13/bucs-assistant-hc-harold-goodwin-applauds-jags-and-bills-for-interview-process/

At this point I'll bet it's Colin Kaepernick syndrome among these owners.

They hate being pressured by the media and told what to do. Kaepernick didn't get a job after he was cut for multiple reasons (many of them self-inflicted like refusing to play unless he got the red carpet and a huge contract) but I'd speculate that one of those reasons was people were screaming, "Why doesn't somebody bring him in?!!"

No owner or GM wants to be the first to give in to outside pressure on how to run a football team. And things kept boiling up until finally all franchises were just like, "You know what? **** this. Not touching this asshole."

I'll bet Bieniemy doesn't get a job next year, either. It sucks balls.

The Houston job in itself is toxic with Easterby and McNair seems to be an ass clown as well.

I don't understand why EB hasn't been offered yet either. Shit doesn't make sense. Kap stuff might be a reason. Could be racism. But something doesn't add up.

staylor26
01-27-2021, 11:21 PM
Also, let's just say I fully support the Chargers hiring Brandon Staley. I'm a huge fan of him being the head coach in our division.

Did you see who they hired for OC?

LMAO

Rams Fan
01-27-2021, 11:23 PM
This coaching class is going to be highly scrutinized. Campbell, culley, sirriani, and to a lesser extent Staley are risky hires. 3 of those guys barely have playcalling experience. It's not like last year which had a very experienced class, other than Joe Judge.

Campbell has HC experience which is why I don't quite get the criticism.

Staley's just the Chargers slobbing off McVay. I don't get the Sirriani hire but it's not as WTF as Culley.

kevrunner
01-27-2021, 11:40 PM
I’ll say it, is Cully even a minority?

As compensation for the hire of a minority coach, the Ravens will receive two third-round compensatory picks. Culley is the first Black hire of this head coaching cycle and the second minority along with new Jets coach Robert Saleh

Danguardace
01-28-2021, 01:21 AM
Just looked this guy up.

He’s the Ravens wide receivers coach and passing game coordinator.

The two worst aspects of the Baltimore offense.

Wtf is Houston doing?

Imagine Bob Sutton getting a HC job after 2018?

chiefzilla1501
01-28-2021, 02:34 AM
Check out how many comments from Houston are talking about culley changing the culture. Culture, culture, culture. Gee, I wonder who in Houstons front office talks constantly about culture. If I'm deshaun, I don't care what assistants are hired. Run for the damn hills.

Dull Tools
01-28-2021, 03:57 AM
Also surprised no one has taken on Kafka to be an OC when it was clear that EB wasn't going to get a job.

MahomesMagic
01-28-2021, 05:15 AM
The best hire so far was Arthur Smith by Atlanta, IMO.

Eagles makes sense to me as well.

The rest have huge? marks and not hiring EB looks dumb.

Spott
01-28-2021, 07:06 AM
He was also the Chief WR coach when we scored 0 TDs

It’s almost like we had a QB that checked everything down and never looked downfield for open receivers that season.

OrtonsPiercedTaint
01-28-2021, 08:04 AM
I do not think Tim Tebow will join this bunch if asked

FloridaMan88
01-28-2021, 08:59 AM
Culley is also the oldest first time HC at age 65 in NFL history.

IowaHawkeyeChief
01-28-2021, 09:05 AM
As compensation for the hire of a minority coach, the Ravens will receive two third-round compensatory picks. Culley is the first Black hire of this head coaching cycle and the second minority along with new Jets coach Robert Saleh

This may have come into play too... Who wants to give the Chiefs 2 extra 3 round picks to continue their dominance...

It can't be racism why Houston didn't hire him...

Valiant
01-28-2021, 09:14 AM
What if real job interviews went this way?

So I'm not qualified...

No big deal man you're hired anyway.

Well there is the mantra of who you know.

Or good at a sport for corporate challenge.

Pasta Little Brioni
01-28-2021, 10:02 AM
This is a Turd Haley level disaster of a hire

joethomas
01-28-2021, 10:15 AM
This hire really makes sense I think. Like the Beaty comparison I made before, there's one reason and one reason only you hire an unknown position coach to run the team... because no one else will take the job. The other top candidates see what's going on there and want no part of it.

Most people only get one chance at being a head coach in the NFL, and an up and comer is not going to want to spend it on an organization that is so dysfunctional and in turmoil. Why put yourself in a situation where it's going to be almost impossible to succeed?

On the other hand it might be appealing to someone who's 65 who never had a chance and will never get another. The worst case scenario is that he heads off into retirement several million dollars richer

Valiant
01-28-2021, 10:36 AM
This may have come into play too... Who wants to give the Chiefs 2 extra 3 round picks to continue their dominance...

It can't be racism why Houston didn't hire him...

Or he is a bore. Andy seems to like anyone and gives chances. Most people are not this way.

Other options, he is content where he is at. He doesn't prep for interviews well. He doesn't respond to how GM's want questions answered. Like, so if we trade watson how would you win with what we have.

I think the last reason would be, we don't want to give the chiefs picks.

IowaHawkeyeChief
01-28-2021, 10:56 AM
Or he is a bore. Andy seems to like anyone and gives chances. Most people are not this way.

Other options, he is content where he is at. He doesn't prep for interviews well. He doesn't respond to how GM's want questions answered. Like, so if we trade watson how would you win with what we have.

I think the last reason would be, we don't want to give the chiefs picks.

Not entirely, but its foolish to think it may not be playing into the equation...

Spott
01-28-2021, 11:21 AM
What if real job interviews went this way?

So I'm not qualified...

No big deal man you're hired anyway.

It’s actually par for the course in the corporate world, especially if the openings are internal.

ModSocks
01-28-2021, 11:49 AM
This is a Turd Haley level disaster of a hire

Todd Haley was a much better hire. At least he coordinated an offense for a SB team and had a reputation for developing WR's.

DaneMcCloud
01-28-2021, 11:57 AM
I'm happy for David Culley.

He worked with Andy Reid from 1999-2016 as his Wide Receivers coach and coached up a lot of good to great players. When he left after the 2016 season to become Buffalo's QB Coach, I was skeptical. Culley said that he didn't want to leave but that if he stayed on as WR Coach, he'd never get a chance to become an NFL Head Coach.

So, he went to Buffalo, worked with Josh Allen for two years, then left to become the Passing Game Coordinator/Assistant Head Coach for another Reid crony in John Harbaugh.

Two years later, he's the head coach of the Houston Texans.

I have absolutely no idea whether he'll be good or bad, horrible or great or just another head coach whom the sands of time forgets. But I definitely admire the will of a 60 year old man that even after a very successful career in which he's earned countless millions, never gave up on his dream and actually achieved it at age 65, proving that you're never too old to reach for your goals and dreams.

Now, the hard work begins.

Megatron96
01-28-2021, 11:58 AM
EB lucked out not being hired by HOU. Any team that hires a HC based on their alleged religious faith over their accomplishments in the NFL is doomed to fail.

staylor26
01-28-2021, 12:12 PM
The best hire so far was Arthur Smith by Atlanta, IMO.

Eagles makes sense to me as well.

The rest have huge? marks and not hiring EB looks dumb.

Nah Saleh was the best hire and he’s put together a great staff.

Mecca
01-28-2021, 12:13 PM
[Florio] Multiple league sources believe that the Texans will keep Culley in place for a couple of years, and that he will then “retire” and be replaced by Josh McCown. McCown is expected to become the QB coach on Culley’s staff. Eventually, McCown could become the OC.

This is like a bad movie.

Coochie liquor
01-28-2021, 12:15 PM
May as well have hired Dave Coulier.

Sassy Squatch
01-28-2021, 12:17 PM
[Florio] Multiple league sources believe that the Texans will keep Culley in place for a couple of years, and that he will then “retire” and be replaced by Josh McCown. McCown is expected to become the QB coach on Culley’s staff. Eventually, McCown could become the OC.

This is like a bad movie.
Ouch.

Pasta Little Brioni
01-28-2021, 12:18 PM
[Florio] Multiple league sources believe that the Texans will keep Culley in place for a couple of years, and that he will then “retire” and be replaced by Josh McCown. McCown is expected to become the QB coach on Culley’s staff. Eventually, McCown could become the OC.

This is like a bad movie.

ROFL WTF

Mecca
01-28-2021, 12:19 PM
Ouch.

Josh McCown showed them his Jesus saves playbook with 40 variations of the Hail Mary, they were sold.

OrtonsPiercedTaint
01-28-2021, 01:34 PM
A Christian organization would want to keep it's promise to Watson. Consider the opportunity to give some one with a distant checkered past. A chance to at least interview properly. Not play power hungry better than, asshole

Bl00dyBizkitz
01-28-2021, 01:49 PM
Bienemy really isn't viewed favorably....at all

Its gotta be his murky history. Its the only explanation.

htismaqe
01-28-2021, 02:08 PM
A Christian organization would want to keep it's promise to Watson. Consider the opportunity to give some one with a distant checkered past. A chance to at least interview properly. Not play power hungry better than, asshole

Don't be fooled by charlatans calling themselves Christians.

Jack Easterby compared Jesus to a football player and referred to the crucifixion as the greatest sporting event ever.

The dude is a certified nut job.

Easy 6
01-28-2021, 02:54 PM
Don't be fooled by charlatans calling themselves Christians.

Jack Easterby compared Jesus to a football player and referred to the crucifixion as the greatest sporting event ever.

The dude is a certified nut job.

Wow, didn't know that... yeah he's a fake flake for sure