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Mahomes_Is_God
02-08-2021, 02:09 PM
He looked like Superman out there, despite being hobbled by turf toe and having zero protection. We are so blessed, I love him. He makes the loss somewhat bearable.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> receivers had many opportunities to make Big Plays. The QB made some amazing throws with heroic effort. All you can ask for are opportunities. I expect them to be knocking on the doorstep in 2021 of another title. <a href="https://twitter.com/Buccaneers?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Buccaneers</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BaldysBreakdowns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BaldysBreakdowns</a> <a href="https://t.co/dojybHMsE6">pic.twitter.com/dojybHMsE6</a></p>&mdash; Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/1358832356644315140?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pants
02-08-2021, 02:11 PM
He balled out, man.

He's incredible. This game made me love him more than any other one I have seen.

kczoo
02-08-2021, 02:12 PM
Screw Veach. You pay that much for a guy and don't put 5 nasty studs in front of him? Well last night is what we get. God IF Mahomes had a pocket like Rodgers or Brady he'd be Amazing

MahomesMagic
02-08-2021, 02:12 PM
He looked like Superman out there, despite being hobbled by turf toe and having zero protection. We are so blessed, I love him. He makes the loss somewhat bearable.

Yes and no.

I know what you are trying to say. But this was the worst Mahomes game by far, measuring results.

If you wanted to show what this kid could do under extreme duress, well, we saw quite a lot. Probably would have scored more points if a few guys catch TD's or convert 3rd downs they dropped.

eDave
02-08-2021, 02:12 PM
The man has a LOT of haters on reddit. They were very impressed and felt bad for him.

MahomesMagic
02-08-2021, 02:13 PM
The man has a LOT of haters on reddit. They were very impressed and felt bad for him.

Casual fans won't see it. I assume that is most of reddit.

Pants
02-08-2021, 02:14 PM
Screw Veach. You pay that much for a guy and don't put 5 nasty studs in front of him? Well last night is what we get. God IF Mahomes had a pocket like Rodgers or Brady he'd be Amazing

All the nasty studs are hurt/opted out.

What the fuck are you babbling about?

notorious
02-08-2021, 02:14 PM
Give this kid some help on the line.

PLEASE.

Chiefspants
02-08-2021, 02:14 PM
He balled out, man.

He's incredible. This game made me love him more than any other one I have seen.

100%. Could not be prouder of him than I was yesterday. Compare his reaction to Cam's at the end of Super Bowl 50. No one would have blamed Patrick had he let Henne take over at the end of the 4th -- but he just kept coming out and giving his all when everything was stacked against him.

You learn the most about the people you admire not when you see them when everything is going well, but when you see them when everything is going wrong -- and man did Patrick fight until the finish when it was all going wrong yesterday. He was the saving grace about the game and will be what I remember from this Super Bowl.

kcpasco
02-08-2021, 02:15 PM
Screw Veach. You pay that much for a guy and don't put 5 nasty studs in front of him? Well last night is what we get. God IF Mahomes had a pocket like Rodgers or Brady he'd be Amazing

No LDT Fisher or Schwartz. How is that Veach’s fault?

Mahomes_Is_God
02-08-2021, 02:16 PM
Yes and no.

I know what you are trying to say. But this was the worst Mahomes game by far, measuring results.

If you wanted to show what this kid could do under extreme duress, well, we saw quite a lot. Probably would have scored more points if a few guys catch TD's or convert 3rd downs they dropped.

I don't even know how to reply to this. So much nonsense.

FloridaMan88
02-08-2021, 02:17 PM
Guttiest performance for sure.

Best22
02-08-2021, 02:17 PM
No

2018 vs. Ravens. He got hit 15 times, still won with a crazy throw

2019 AFCCG vs Titans. Nearly a perfect game if it wasn’t for a few drops

2018 vs. Steelers and Raiders are HM

Prison Bitch
02-08-2021, 02:18 PM
Screw Veach. You pay that much for a guy and don't put 5 nasty studs in front of him? Well last night is what we get. God IF Mahomes had a pocket like Rodgers or Brady he'd be Amazing

:doh!:

MagicHef
02-08-2021, 02:18 PM
Flinging the ball ~30 yards with pinpoint accuracy while not having any part of his body in contact with the ground was one of the most impressive physical feats I've ever seen.

Valiant
02-08-2021, 02:20 PM
Mahomes had a few bad throws. Most on short passes. The rest were beautiful and just dropped. That diving throw was amazing.

eDave
02-08-2021, 02:20 PM
Casual fans won't see it. I assume that is most of reddit.

Their hate has a b-line to jealousy as surely they wouldn't hate him if he were theirs.

eDave
02-08-2021, 02:22 PM
Flinging the ball ~30 yards with pinpoint accuracy while not having any part of his body in contact with the ground was one of the most impressive physical feats I've ever seen.
Mahomes had a few bad throws. Most on short passes. The rest were beautiful and just dropped. That diving throw was amazing.

https://i.ibb.co/KhLtVq9/Pat.jpg

loochy
02-08-2021, 02:24 PM
Screw Veach. You pay that much for a guy and don't put 5 nasty studs in front of him? Well last night is what we get. God IF Mahomes had a pocket like Rodgers or Brady he'd be Amazing

Are you retarded? We went into the season with:


Osemele
LDT
Niang
Schwartz
Fisher




Shit happens, you know?

Easy 6
02-08-2021, 02:29 PM
https://i.ibb.co/KhLtVq9/Pat.jpg

THATS MY QUARTERBACK

eDave
02-08-2021, 02:30 PM
THATS MY QUARTERBACK

That's baseball right there.

Kman34
02-08-2021, 02:31 PM
He was unbelievable escaping on some plays.. Getting passes off at the last second.. Imagine if he had 3 seconds of a clean pocket yesterday...

Dante84
02-08-2021, 02:33 PM
Yes, it really might have been.

Please put this in the OP as evidence:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> receivers had many opportunities to make Big Plays. The QB made some amazing throws with heroic effort. All you can ask for are opportunities. I expect them to be knocking on the doorstep in 2021 of another title. <a href="https://twitter.com/Buccaneers?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Buccaneers</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BaldysBreakdowns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BaldysBreakdowns</a> <a href="https://t.co/dojybHMsE6">pic.twitter.com/dojybHMsE6</a></p>&mdash; Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/1358832356644315140?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Jewish Rabbi
02-08-2021, 02:35 PM
Are you retarded? We went into the season with:


Osemele
LDT
Niang
Schwartz
Fisher




Shit happens, you know?

Semantics, because I agree with your point, but we actually signed Osemele after LDT and Niang opted out.

DanT
02-08-2021, 02:36 PM
I love Mahomes. Pure class. He played as well as anyone could with the kind of pressure he was facing, and he handled the loss with grace and dignity.

One of the things I conjecture that Patrick does is keep Andy Reid from mismanaging the game. When Mahomes is on offense in late situations, he seems to me to be able to talk Reid into making smart plays. Reid's reputation for mismanaging games had gone dormant, until yesterday, when he called a timeout late in the first half, on 3rd and 2, with the Chiefs on defense.

I don't understand how the Chiefs didn't emphasize putting more protection on Mahomes yesterday. The reliance on 5-man protections made little sense after it was clear how little opportunity Mahomes had to read and execute throws. Worse, Mahomes is so ridiculously valuable and young that the lack of protection was damn near inexcusable, given what could have happened to him.

I'm hoping that Lucas Niang has an amazing rookie year for us in 2021 and that we also get some veteran help from a solid offensive lineman who wants to sign with the Chiefs to roll with Mahomes.

Mahomes_Is_God
02-08-2021, 02:41 PM
Yes, it really might have been.

Please put this in the OP as evidence:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> receivers had many opportunities to make Big Plays. The QB made some amazing throws with heroic effort. All you can ask for are opportunities. I expect them to be knocking on the doorstep in 2021 of another title. <a href="https://twitter.com/Buccaneers?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Buccaneers</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BaldysBreakdowns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BaldysBreakdowns</a> <a href="https://t.co/dojybHMsE6">pic.twitter.com/dojybHMsE6</a></p>&mdash; Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/1358832356644315140?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wish granted, ;)

DanT
02-08-2021, 02:42 PM
What gives me such supreme confidence in Mahomes is the fact that he can throw a football the way that middle infielders can throw baseballs, off platform and with tremendous accuracy. When he is running around and needs to throw at least intermediate depth, he seems so much better at that then anyone I've ever seen on the football field.
For what it's worth, Brady was also a fine baseball player back in his day, a catcher. Brady makes great (accurate) throws from a solid platform. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/tom-brady-patrick-mahomes-were-both-mlb-draft-picks-heres-what-teams-saw-in-them-on-the-baseball-diamond/

I respect Brady a tremendous amount, but I so much would rather have Mahomes.

suzzer99
02-08-2021, 02:48 PM
Yes, it really might have been.

Please put this in the OP as evidence:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> receivers had many opportunities to make Big Plays. The QB made some amazing throws with heroic effort. All you can ask for are opportunities. I expect them to be knocking on the doorstep in 2021 of another title. <a href="https://twitter.com/Buccaneers?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Buccaneers</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BaldysBreakdowns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BaldysBreakdowns</a> <a href="https://t.co/dojybHMsE6">pic.twitter.com/dojybHMsE6</a></p>&mdash; Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/1358832356644315140?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You notice every one of these drops the receiver had a hand in their face, or maybe tipped a little, or a defender draped on them. Not excusing their drops, but TB's sticky defense made the plays a lot tougher.

Prison Bitch
02-08-2021, 02:52 PM
Wow what a clip. I’ve changed my mind about him having an off day. He really didn’t. I had no idea Ty’s ball hit his face mask and didn’t recall the Robinson one.

PAChiefsGuy
02-08-2021, 02:54 PM
Not even close. All he did was run for his life most of the game. We didn't even score a TD

Papi
02-08-2021, 02:54 PM
No LDT Fisher or Schwartz. How is that Veach’s fault?

Osemele was balling out before getting hurt too. O line was just cursed this year.

chiefzilla1501
02-08-2021, 02:55 PM
No LDT Fisher or Schwartz. How is that Veach’s fault?

Also, osemele. Oh and the backup LT who could have allowed Remmers and Wylie to stay in place is gone. When you think about it we had third stringers in most of our OL when you consider playing out of position.

chiefzilla1501
02-08-2021, 02:59 PM
From what I've seen on Twitter....

Mahomes was pressured on 52% of snaps. A super bowl record.

He ran for something like 500 yards just trying to escape the pocket.

I'd be curious to see stats on how long it took to get pressure. Because it's not like he was even holding on for too long.

We've now seen how mahomes handles the worst kind of adversity. And he did it not just well, but with a ton of calm and poise. Far cry from cam Newton who practically gave up in a much closer super bowl game.

Papi
02-08-2021, 03:00 PM
I don't understand how the Chiefs didn't emphasize putting more protection on Mahomes yesterday. The reliance on 5-man protections made little sense after it was clear how little opportunity Mahomes had to read and execute throws. Worse, Mahomes is so ridiculously valuable and young that the lack of protection was damn near inexcusable, given what could have happened to him.

We knew the line wasn't good. I don't understand how we couldn't adjust to some quick release plays. They took away the deep and outside plays. Do we not have some quick slants in the playbook?

ChiTown
02-08-2021, 03:03 PM
I'm in complete awe of this Man, especially after what he endured yesterday. Craziness. With just a little help from his receivers and Coaching Staff, and it might have turned out differently.

smithandrew051
02-08-2021, 03:07 PM
We knew the line wasn't good. I don't understand how we couldn't adjust to some quick release plays. They took away the deep and outside plays. Do we not have some quick slants in the playbook?

It’s easy to criticize the play calling when the plays don’t work. We have no idea what was called or what Reid was trying to do.

That said, from a philosophical standpoint, I agree. It looked like we were determined to be ourselves despite the OL injuries. I absolutely get why a Super Bowl team wouldn’t want to change who they are. Hindsight is 20/20, but it probably would’ve been better to emphasize the short passing game to help take the pressure off of the patchwork OL.

Mahomes_Is_God
02-08-2021, 03:08 PM
We knew the line wasn't good. I don't understand how we couldn't adjust to some quick release plays. They took away the deep and outside plays. Do we not have some quick slants in the playbook?

Who's the girl in your avatar, if you don't mind me asking?

Papi
02-08-2021, 03:16 PM
Who's the girl in your avatar, if you don't mind me asking?

Cora Skinner....ya stalker :)

loochy
02-08-2021, 03:18 PM
Semantics, because I agree with your point, but we actually signed Osemele after LDT and Niang opted out.


I stand corrected.




But yeah...they TRIED to have a good O-line, but it's hard when you get 2 opt-outs and 2 season ending injuries.

Dante84
02-08-2021, 03:19 PM
We need to focus on adding WR's who excel in two areas: Route running and Contested/Non-traditional catches. We don't necessarily need WR's who create space at this point in Mahomes' career if he is this accurate. We have those guys.

What we need are guys in the mold of Tyler Lockett & OBJ. Super strong routes, Super sticky hands.

Clearly those guys aren't just hanging around on the street, so Veach needs to get creative to identify players with these skills.

Mahomes_Is_God
02-08-2021, 03:21 PM
Cora Skinner....ya stalker :)

Thank you!

Pants
02-08-2021, 03:30 PM
We need to focus on adding WR's who excel in two areas: Route running and Contested/Non-traditional catches. We don't necessarily need WR's who create space at this point in Mahomes' career if he is this accurate. We have those guys.

What we need are guys in the mold of Tyler Lockett & OBJ. Super strong routes, Super sticky hands.

Clearly those guys aren't just hanging around on the street, so Veach needs to get creative to identify players with these skills.

I feel like Veach's approach is to draft freak athletes in hopes they can be coached to become professional route runners. That approach applies to all positions.

So your wish may not come true, man.

I do think Veach's approach can work if you can somehow weed out the low IQ guys.

You can tell Reek understands football and Mecole doesn't. You can argue they came from a relatively similar place when it comes to route-running.

BWillie
02-08-2021, 03:43 PM
I'm glad he showed the Mecole Hardman play where Mahomes literally picked up the blitz RIGHT when the ball was snapped. He went with the perfect read but Hardman was not ready for the ball and was not able to improvise, which is typical for Hardman. Hardman is able to just run a basic route, very quickly, but not play football very well. Which is completely to be expected when we drafted him.

But that play was a testament of how Mahomes read the defense correctly, without hesitation, and a teammate didn't help him out. Sometimes football comes down to small things. Sometimes you get inopportune penalties that take the wind out of your sails, and combine that with drops and NO OFFENSIVE LINE to speak of this is what can happen.

It's possible that Kelce is just a Top 5 TE and not the goat TE. Hill is just a fast guy who's a #1 WR, but just a Top 35 guy. Watkins is a bust, not a serviceable WR. And Andy Reid may be a great HOF coach, but a flawed coach...and Mahomes just makes everyone look way better than they actually are.

We are so lucky to have a guy like Mahomes who can make so much influence on a team. I think by the time it's said and done, there will be a Chiefs season where we go 9-7, barely make it and Mahomes just wills and pulls the team to the Super Bowl.

MahomesMagic
02-08-2021, 04:27 PM
We need to focus on adding WR's who excel in two areas: Route running and Contested/Non-traditional catches. We don't necessarily need WR's who create space at this point in Mahomes' career if he is this accurate. We have those guys.

What we need are guys in the mold of Tyler Lockett & OBJ. Super strong routes, Super sticky hands.

Clearly those guys aren't just hanging around on the street, so Veach needs to get creative to identify players with these skills.


That's why I wanted Terry McLaurin.

Hill
McLaurin
Kelce

Is unstoppable.

We need one more guy...

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
02-08-2021, 04:32 PM
Alex Smith said this game was lost because of the O Line and another thing is Mahomes toe. He said it limited him a bit

493rd
02-08-2021, 04:47 PM
So disappointing when you see these plays broken down like this. Mahomes played his ass off and made some unbelievable throws and his pass catchers let him down. Hardman just looked lost in this game and Darrel Williams never makes that catch. But Tyreek and Travis? The inopportune drops finally came back to bite us and watching this shit is upsetting.

IowaHawkeyeChief
02-08-2021, 04:54 PM
You notice every one of these drops the receiver had a hand in their face, or maybe tipped a little, or a defender draped on them. Not excusing their drops, but TB's sticky defense made the plays a lot tougher.

Watch the plays again and observe the illegal contact and holding. This was called on KC's DBs and was not being called on the Bucs... Sticky... Right...

jd1020
02-08-2021, 05:07 PM
The 3rd play he shows CEH gets thrown out of bounds and we get called for PI on incidental contact and uncatchable passes? ROFL

Marcellus
02-08-2021, 05:47 PM
Yes, it really might have been.

Please put this in the OP as evidence:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> receivers had many opportunities to make Big Plays. The QB made some amazing throws with heroic effort. All you can ask for are opportunities. I expect them to be knocking on the doorstep in 2021 of another title. <a href="https://twitter.com/Buccaneers?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Buccaneers</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BaldysBreakdowns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BaldysBreakdowns</a> <a href="https://t.co/dojybHMsE6">pic.twitter.com/dojybHMsE6</a></p>&mdash; Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/1358832356644315140?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hardman had a bad game again and looked to be out of position all game, stopping routes not looking for the ball etc....

But Ill be damned if that video doesn't make me just hate Robinson even more yet again. Dude is worthless.

Marcellus
02-08-2021, 05:48 PM
Watch the plays again and observe the illegal contact and holding. This was called on KC's DBs and was not being called on the Bucs... Sticky... Right...

2nd play there is obvious holding on the slot receiver, I mean obvious as far as how they were supposedly calling the game. 3rd and 8, no flag.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
02-08-2021, 05:53 PM
2nd play there is obvious holding on the slot receiver, I mean obvious as far as how they were supposedly calling the game. 3rd and 8, no flag.

If you’re talking about when David shoved CEH out of bounds that’s actually not a flag because illegal contact doesn’t apply when QB is out of the pocket and CEH wasn’t beyond 5 yards pass the LOS so it’s not PI

comochiefsfan
02-08-2021, 06:14 PM
We REALLY need to get Pat a big target that can go up and make contested catches.

The Tyreek bullshit couldn't have come at a worse time. Who knows if they still would've taken Hardman or not without it, but Metcalf is the EXACT kind of receiver that could've helped Pat out last night.

Chief Pote
02-08-2021, 06:23 PM
Yes, it really might have been.

Please put this in the OP as evidence:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> receivers had many opportunities to make Big Plays. The QB made some amazing throws with heroic effort. All you can ask for are opportunities. I expect them to be knocking on the doorstep in 2021 of another title. <a href="https://twitter.com/Buccaneers?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Buccaneers</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BaldysBreakdowns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BaldysBreakdowns</a> <a href="https://t.co/dojybHMsE6">pic.twitter.com/dojybHMsE6</a></p>&mdash; Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/1358832356644315140?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I never doubted Mahomes, but it's painful watching this breakdown of the receiver failures.

ghak99
02-08-2021, 08:15 PM
That breakdown is depressing. Watching the ball bounce off their facemasks while PM ran for his life was bad enough live, seeing it broke down in a replay just makes me want to throw something.

Chiefshrink
02-08-2021, 09:11 PM
https://i.ibb.co/KhLtVq9/Pat.jpg

THIS PICTURE SUMS UP PATRICK MAHOMES.

Add your adjectives and I will start with these:

1.Heart and Soul

kevrunner
02-08-2021, 10:15 PM
Mahome’s is clearly in his own tier and there is no other QB even close. Those 2 throws yesterday were unbelievable.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
02-08-2021, 10:19 PM
Mahomes laid everything he had on the line. Damn proud to call him my qb. He will go down as the best qb to ever play

cdcox
02-08-2021, 11:27 PM
We knew the line wasn't good. I don't understand how we couldn't adjust to some quick release plays. They took away the deep and outside plays. Do we not have some quick slants in the playbook?

We ran some quick plays, but IMO they were the wrong ones against the Tampa secondary. I recall a number of passes to players mostly standing stationary on the sideline. Tampa closed on those quickly and we couldn't beat the coverage for YAC on a consistent basis. Those ended up being essentially handoffs and trading of a down for two yards, which is something a defense will take every time.

Some slants, swings and screens where our guys were moving forward, instead of standing still, would have been more effective in my opinion.

Nickhead
02-09-2021, 12:23 AM
the only thing separating that horizontal throw from being the single greatest play in football history was the facemask doesn't have hands :smh:

Rasputin
02-09-2021, 12:28 AM
Flinging the ball ~30 yards with pinpoint accuracy while not having any part of his body in contact with the ground was one of the most impressive physical feats I've ever seen.

That was the greatest throw in the history of history as it could have been caught. If they did one of those scientific odds it probably be 1% chance of getting both feet down but there was a chance.

Nickhead
02-09-2021, 12:57 AM
someone needs to photo shop a cape on these images :thumb: