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Discuss Thrower
03-06-2021, 11:50 AM
(Players ranked by Pro-Football Reference's Absolute Value metric... mostly)

QB:
$5 Len Dawson
$4 Patrick Mahomes
$3 Trent Green
$2 Alex Smith
$1 Bill Kenney

RB:
$5 Priest Holmes
$4 Jamaal Charles
$3 Abner Haynes
$2 Ed Podolak
$1 Larry Johnson

WR:
$5 Otis Taylor
$4 Henry Marshall
$3 Tyreek Hill
$2 Chris Burford
$1 Carlos Carson

TE:
$5 Tony Gonzalez
$4 Travis Kelce
$3 Fred Arbanas
$2 Walter White
$1 Johnathan Hayes

OL:
$5 2003: Willie Roaf / Brian Waters / Casey Wiegmann / Will Shields / John Tait
$4 1969: Jim Tyrer / Ed Budde / EJ Holub / Mo Moorman / Dave Hill
$3 1995: John Alt / Dave Szott / Tim Grunhard / Will Shields / Ricky Silgar
$2 2019: Eric Fisher / LDT / Austin Reiter / Stefen Wisnewski / Mitchell Schwartz
$1 1981: Matt Herkenhoff / Brad Budde / Jack Rudnay / Tom Condon / Charlie Getty

Easy 6
03-06-2021, 11:53 AM
Mahomes
Charles
Taylor
Kelce
2003

I don't cotton to rulez

Discuss Thrower
03-06-2021, 11:54 AM
Math is hard, apparently

Hammock Parties
03-06-2021, 11:55 AM
Mahomes
LJ
Tyreek
Kelce
95 OL

LJ will rape behind that OL and so will Mahomes and Tyreek.

Discuss Thrower
03-06-2021, 11:57 AM
Mahomes
LJ
Tyreek
Kelce
95 OL

LJ will rape behind that OL and so will Mahomes and Tyreek.

Welp, Gifhorse made this thread useless real quick. That's a killer lineup.

Easy 6
03-06-2021, 11:57 AM
Fine, just gimme Mahomes, the 2003 line and you can pick everyone else... because those two are all you'd need to snap necks and cash checks

Discuss Thrower
03-06-2021, 11:59 AM
Fine, just gimme Mahomes, the 2003 line and you can pick everyone else... because those two are all you'd need to snap necks and cash checks

$4 Mahomes
$5 2003 O-Line
$4 Jamaal Charles
$1 Carlos Carson
$1 Jonathan Hayes

Hammock Parties
03-06-2021, 12:00 PM
Why is Dawson more expensive?

Stupid.

Discuss Thrower
03-06-2021, 12:00 PM
Why is Dawson more expensive?

Stupid.

Blame Pro Football Reference. I jumped Patrick over Trent for obvious reasons but it's a lot harder for me to justify jumping Lenny considering the differences in era.

Sassy Squatch
03-06-2021, 12:03 PM
Wait, is this based on PFF or Pro Football Reference?

Hammock Parties
03-06-2021, 12:04 PM
Blame Pro Football Reference. I jumped Patrick over Trent for obvious reasons but it's a lot harder for me to justify jumping Lenny considering the differences in era.

At no point in their careers was Len Dawson ever better at football than P-Money.

LJ for $1 is questionable too.

And where is the Nigerian Nightmare?

A lot wrong with this setup.

Discuss Thrower
03-06-2021, 12:04 PM
Wait, is this based on PFF or Pro Football Reference?

Yeah that was my bad on using the wrong abbreviation. It's Reference not Focus.

Prison Bitch
03-06-2021, 12:06 PM
But the problem is: any team anybody else builds that’s got Mahomes on it will be equal to yours. The rest of the slots don’t move the needle much.

Discuss Thrower
03-06-2021, 12:08 PM
At no point in their careers was Len Dawson ever better at football than P-Money.

LJ for $1 is questionable too.

I stand by my logic. The 2004-present offensive game is hypercharged by all the defensive nerfing done thanks to Peyton's bitching. Dawson might have been a journeyman turned offensive star late in his career but I think the differences in rules means that the PFR's ranking is justified to keep him above Mahomes.. who, lest we forget, has yet to start as QB for a fifth season.

Hammock Parties
03-06-2021, 12:10 PM
k

Discuss Thrower
03-06-2021, 12:13 PM
k

I can understand Okoye over LJ considering the guys between them according to PFR's ranking is Curtis McClintock, Mike Garrett, Kimble Anders and Marcus Allen wherein the only guy you think about putting over LJ is the last in the list.

IMO.

scho63
03-06-2021, 12:14 PM
(Players ranked by Pro-Football Reference's Absolute Value metric... mostly)

QB:
$5 Len Dawson
$4 Patrick Mahomes
$3 Trent Grent
$2 Alex Smith
$1 Bill Kenney

RB:
$5 Priest Holmes
$4 Jamaal Charles
$3 Abner Haynes
$2 Ed Podolak
$1 Larry Johnson

WR:
$5 Otis Taylor
$4 Henry Marshall
$3 Tyreek Hill
$2 Chris Burford
$1 Carlos Carson

TE:
$5 Tony Gonzalez
$4 Travis Kelce
$3 Fred Arbanas
$2 Walter White
$1 Johnathan Hayes

OL:
$5 2003: Willie Roaf / Brian Waters / Casey Wiegmann / Will Shields / John Tait
$4 1969: Jim Tyrer / Ed Budde / EJ Holub / Mo Moorman / Dave Hill
$3 1995: John Alt / Dave Szott / Tim Grunhard / Will Shields / Ricky Silgar
$2 2019: Eric Fisher / LDT / Austin Reiter / Stefen Wisnewski / Mitchell Schwartz
$1 1981: Matt Herkenhoff / Brad Budde / Jack Rudnay / Tom Condon / Charlie Getty

$4 Mahomes
$2 Ed Podolak
$3 Tyreek Hill
$4 Travis Kelce
$2 2019 OL
:thumb:

Hammock Parties
03-06-2021, 12:14 PM
Not that, either.

Okoye should be on there instead of Ed Podolak.

scho63
03-06-2021, 12:19 PM
Not that, either.

Okoye should be on there instead of Ed Podolak.

Probably but did you ever see Podolak play?

Easy 6
03-06-2021, 12:23 PM
Okoye would genuinely be SICK behind that 03 line, 95 as well for that matter... they'd give him so much room to build up a head of steam with that he'd likely kill some hapless defender

Hammock Parties
03-06-2021, 12:24 PM
Probably but did you ever see Podolak play?

He was good for his era.

He wasn't a better running back than Okoye.

You need to be a freak like Bobby Bell if you're going to be from that era and draw comparisons to modern day athletes.

Discuss Thrower
03-06-2021, 12:26 PM
But the problem is: any team anybody else builds that’s got Mahomes on it will be equal to yours. The rest of the slots don’t move the needle much.

$5 Priest Holmes
$3 Trent Green
$3 1995 OL
$3 Tyreek
$1 Jonathan Hayes

vs

$4 Jamaal Charles
$4 Mahomes
$4 Kelce
$2 2019 OL
$1 Carlos Carson

Hammock Parties
03-06-2021, 12:29 PM
Mahomes and Charles? No contest.

Gary Cooper
03-06-2021, 12:32 PM
Mahomes
LJ
Tyreek
Kelce
95 OL

LJ will rape behind that OL and so will Mahomes and Tyreek.

Same list. Took me less than 15 seconds to choose.

Mahomes is clearly above Dawson. Running back is expendable. Larry Johnson was more than good enough. Especially running behind that 1995 OL. We don't need the 2003 OL. 1995 is more than enough. Tyreek at #3 is a steal. That leaves Kelce at #4.

Hammock Parties
03-06-2021, 12:35 PM
Mahomes and Tyreek take all the pressure off LJ. He will be a turbo-charged death machine playing with them.

Discuss Thrower
03-06-2021, 12:36 PM
$4 1969 OL
$4 Travis Kelce
$3 Tyreek Hill
$3 Trent Green
$1 Larry Johnson

HayWire
03-06-2021, 12:40 PM
Mahomes
LJ
Tyreek
Kelce
95 OL

LJ will rape behind that OL and so will Mahomes and Tyreek.

That was my picks as well

Hammock Parties
03-06-2021, 12:43 PM
I specifically only drafted power backs in my Madden franchise just so I could behold the unholy glory of such a player running into empty boxes with the greatest QB and deep threat ever.

When Tyreek retired I shed a tear.

Couch-Potato
03-06-2021, 12:44 PM
Mahomes, Charles, Tyreek, Kelce, No Offensive Line Vs a Hurricane named Ditka for the win.

Jerok
03-06-2021, 12:45 PM
Why the hell wouldn't Mahomes and Charles be the 5 dollar options.

Does one think Len is better than Mahomes? Does anyone think Priest is better than Charles?

Easy 6
03-06-2021, 12:45 PM
I specifically only drafted power backs in my Madden franchise just so I could behold the unholy glory of such a player running into empty boxes with the greatest QB and deep threat ever.

When Tyreek retired I shed a tear.

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Hammock Parties
03-06-2021, 12:50 PM
it's even sadder when the power backs start getting hurt

Gary Cooper
03-06-2021, 12:52 PM
Why the hell wouldn't Mahomes and Charles be the 5 dollar options.

Does one think Len is better than Mahomes? Does anyone think Priest is better than Charles?

He wasn't as explosive and played with a much better OL, but also not as prone to fumbles.

Rain Man
03-06-2021, 12:56 PM
QB:
$4 Patrick Mahomes

Lenny is a legend, but come on. You have to pick Patrick here.

RB:

$1 Larry Johnson

I'd love a few more bucks to go with Jamaal, but peak Larry Johnson is a bargain here. I can't afford Otis but would love to have him here.

WR:

$3 Tyreek Hill
$2 Chris Burford

Tyreek is a no-brainer, and Burford is underrated in the TV era.

TE:

$2 Walter White

Walter White had a good run for a few years.

OL:

$3 1995: John Alt / Dave Szott / Tim Grunhard / Will Shields / Ricky Silgar

I'm not convinced that I like them more than the 2019 line, but I ended up with an extra dollar.


My second choice would be to go with the lower cost 2019 line, Hayes at TE, and put Carson in for Burford. That would then let me add Jamaal at RB. But I think the group I've got is stronger.

Kman34
03-06-2021, 01:05 PM
Mahomes $4
Charles $4
Carson $1
Kelce $4
2019 line $2

Titty Meat
03-06-2021, 01:07 PM
Mahomes
LJ
Tyreek
Kelce
95 OL

LJ will rape behind that OL and so will Mahomes and Tyreek.

LJ would be put on the exempt list in today's NFL

Rain Man
03-06-2021, 01:11 PM
Guys, you need two receivers. Even with Mahomes out there it's hard to win with ten players.

scho63
03-06-2021, 01:13 PM
$4 Jamaal Charles
$4 Mahomes
$4 Kelce
$2 2019 OL
$1 Carlos Carson

Not bad. :thumb:

OrtonsPiercedTaint
03-06-2021, 01:46 PM
31 teams to go Bill Bidwell in & pocket the excess :Excellent:

mkp785
03-06-2021, 02:03 PM
Mahomes
LJ
Tyreek
Kelce
95 OL

LJ will rape behind that OL and so will Mahomes and Tyreek.

^^
The correct answer.