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Sassy Squatch
03-28-2021, 06:10 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Seahawks?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Seahawks</a> DL Jarran Reed is headed to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> on a 1-year deal.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1376324724356157440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
03-28-2021, 06:11 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">👀 something special <a href="https://t.co/wNAzQNBggG">https://t.co/wNAzQNBggG</a></p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1376325441057927169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KC Hawks
03-28-2021, 06:11 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Defensive tackle Jarran Reed is expected to sign with the Kansas City Chiefs, per source. KC can pair Reed with Chris Jones to cause havoc inside.</p>&mdash; Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1376322887850848258?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Archie Bunker
03-28-2021, 06:11 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/1M9HRrsPfe">https://t.co/1M9HRrsPfe</a> <a href="https://t.co/8enySmlvxC">pic.twitter.com/8enySmlvxC</a></p>&mdash; Patrick Mahomes II (@PatrickMahomes) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatrickMahomes/status/1376325777646571520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

SuperChief
03-28-2021, 06:11 PM
But can he play LT?

carcosa
03-28-2021, 06:11 PM
I'm jacking off because of this!!!!

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
03-28-2021, 06:11 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For Jarran Reed and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>, it’s a 1-year deal worth up to $7M with $5M guaranteed, source said. Very nice in this market, with a chance to cash in next year. Had it been about the money, he would’ve stayed in Seattle. <a href="https://t.co/OYBWgHr6q4">https://t.co/OYBWgHr6q4</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1376325952851042309?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26
03-28-2021, 06:12 PM
Oh shit.

This interior DL is something special.

ping2000
03-28-2021, 06:14 PM
Approve.

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MahomesMagic
03-28-2021, 06:16 PM
Veach said he wanted to beef up the OL and DL...

Chiefs=Champions
03-28-2021, 06:16 PM
Nice signing, Bert.

big nasty kcnut
03-28-2021, 06:17 PM
Oh damn!

lawrenceRaider
03-28-2021, 06:17 PM
Damn. That's gonna be nasty.

Sassy Squatch
03-28-2021, 06:18 PM
Oddly enough he fell off when Clark left the Seahawks. In 2018 Clark and Reed were a monster pairing. Hope they can reestablish that here with Jones fucking shit up as well.

Kman34
03-28-2021, 06:19 PM
This is good news...

TLO
03-28-2021, 06:19 PM
Love this move.

Let's figure out LT next please.

thabear04
03-28-2021, 06:19 PM
Not bad...

Chris Jones
Derrick Nnadi
Tershawn Wharton
Jarran Reed
Khalen Saunders

carcosa
03-28-2021, 06:20 PM
I'm jacking off because of this!

Sassy Squatch
03-28-2021, 06:20 PM
Guessing this is the end of Pennels time as a Chief then.

Otter
03-28-2021, 06:22 PM
But can he play LT?

Teven Jenkins can.

Chiefspants
03-28-2021, 06:22 PM
HERE WE GO MY DUDES

ChiefsCountry
03-28-2021, 06:22 PM
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-King-
03-28-2021, 06:22 PM
Great signing. Interior DL looks niceeeee. Great starters and depth.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan
03-28-2021, 06:23 PM
Not necessarily - if Jones is playing outside, still room for Reed and Pennel to clog up the middle.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Expect to see Chris Jones play more DE on first and second down, stay inside on 3rd down (was used like this in AFC Championship two years ago vs Titans).Reed acquisition going to make <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> DL much better, more multiple.</p>&mdash; Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LRiddickESPN/status/1376328194123563008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Sofa King
03-28-2021, 06:23 PM
Solid deal. Nice work.

Sofa King
03-28-2021, 06:24 PM
Signed him twice in one day??!!

In58men
03-28-2021, 06:24 PM
BERT VERCH!!!!!!!!!!!!

ping2000
03-28-2021, 06:24 PM
I approve in both threads.

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TLO
03-28-2021, 06:24 PM
TWICE AS NICE

comochiefsfan
03-28-2021, 06:24 PM
Very nice signing. Our D-Line is looking fairly salty at the moment.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
03-28-2021, 06:25 PM
Not necessarily - if Jones is playing outside, still room for Reed and Pennel to clog up the middle.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Expect to see Chris Jones play more DE on first and second down, stay inside on 3rd down (was used like this in AFC Championship two years ago vs Titans).Reed acquisition going to make <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> DL much better, more multiple.</p>&mdash; Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LRiddickESPN/status/1376328194123563008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Jones was pretty good at DE

staylor26
03-28-2021, 06:25 PM
This is why Veach didn’t panic and go spend the money they opened up for Williams after that fell through....

In58men
03-28-2021, 06:26 PM
Sources say deal is not done but in the works. This week, Seattle released Reed, who had 6.5 sacks last year, after talks on an extension didn't materialize.

Per Jeremy Fowler

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
03-28-2021, 06:26 PM
This is why Veach didn’t panic and go spend the money they opened up for Williams after that fell through....

Agreed. People need to quit bitching. Trust in Veach please

siberian khatru
03-28-2021, 06:28 PM
Be nice if Ingram circled back and signed to bolster the end.

Do they have enough money left to sign Ingram and a veteran LT?

thabear04
03-28-2021, 06:29 PM
Not necessarily - if Jones is playing outside, still room for Reed and Pennel to clog up the middle.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Expect to see Chris Jones play more DE on first and second down, stay inside on 3rd down (was used like this in AFC Championship two years ago vs Titans).Reed acquisition going to make <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> DL much better, more multiple.</p>&mdash; Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LRiddickESPN/status/1376328194123563008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Pennel gone unless they resign him.

Kman34
03-28-2021, 06:29 PM
Quality signing

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
03-28-2021, 06:29 PM
Be nice if Ingram circled back and signed to bolster the end.

Do they have enough money left to sign Ingram and a veteran LT?

Yes but don’t expect to see Breeland or Reiter back then

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
03-28-2021, 06:30 PM
Reed had 7 other teams but Veach waved his massive dong

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jarran Reed has agreed to a 1-year deal with the Chiefs, a source confirms (<a href="https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JFowlerESPN</a> 1st). Reed, a talented DT who has 19 sacks in the past 3 seasons, can earn up to $7 million.<br><br>Reed is the 1st defensive player in free agency to join the Chiefs, who beat out 7 other teams.</p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1376328267473502215?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RunKC
03-28-2021, 06:33 PM
Still need an edge. Get Ingram in here and I’ll be so fucking happy

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2021, 06:33 PM
Fuck yes!

smithandrew051
03-28-2021, 06:33 PM
Gotta love this move

Easy 6
03-28-2021, 06:36 PM
A rising former second round young vet with two multiple sack games to his credit last year... loving that potential upside

If the offense was proving difficult to improve in free agency, then look at some defense... atta boy, Brett

PHOG
03-28-2021, 06:36 PM
Very nice!

staylor26
03-28-2021, 06:36 PM
Reed is going to be hungry for another pay day too, and I’m not talking about the candy bar.

This is beautiful.

Peter Gibbons
03-28-2021, 06:38 PM
Nice signing. On a one year deal he should have something to prove.
Perhaps he will get some of those greedy sacks that Clark is too much a team player to get.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
03-28-2021, 06:39 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> Signing<br>DI Jarran Reed<br><br>2020<br>• 41 Pressures (6.8% Rate)<br>• 11 Sacks<br>• 56.5 Overall<br><br>2018<br>• 55 Pressures (10.7% Rate)<br>• 11 Sacks<br>• 68.1 Overall (4th among NFC West DI with 500+ snaps)<br><br>Career<br>• 159 Pressures (7.7% Rate)<br>• 30 Sacks<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a></p>&mdash; PFF KC Chiefs (@PFF_Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Chiefs/status/1376328310272188417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sassy Squatch
03-28-2021, 06:40 PM
Those sack stats are wrong

New World Order
03-28-2021, 06:42 PM
Noice

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2021, 06:42 PM
If the Chiefs can just get some Edge help, this is a Top 5 Defense to start the season.

staylor26
03-28-2021, 06:43 PM
If the Chiefs can just get some Edge help, this is a Top 5 Defense to start the season.

Imagine when Gay starts to put it together mentally and we have a huge upgrade at LB to go with it all...

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
03-28-2021, 06:46 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Last year Reed and Clark were together in SEA (both career years)<br><br>Reed 2018: 10.5 sacks as DT<br>Clark 2018: 13 sacks off edge <a href="https://t.co/MzZmyZaRfo">pic.twitter.com/MzZmyZaRfo</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Live (@ArrowheadLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadLive/status/1376334452377452544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
03-28-2021, 06:47 PM
Rn Taco is the starting DE

Jewish Rabbi
03-28-2021, 06:49 PM
PBJ PBJ PBJ PBJ PBJ

New World Order
03-28-2021, 06:49 PM
If the Chiefs can just get some Edge help, this is a Top 5 Defense to start the season.

If they can land a guy like Ingram they could legitimately have 4 guys (Clark, Reed, Ingram, Jones) who are capable of double digit sack seasons.

I mean, it probably wouldn't happen, but it would be a bad ass line from right to left.

Buehler445
03-28-2021, 06:50 PM
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Mahomes meme game is elite.

BigChiefFan
03-28-2021, 06:52 PM
This is a good move by the FO and should help solidify our D-Line next year. It’s hard to find fault in this move, because Reed is damn good player and it’s never a bad idea to try and improve. I’m glad to see this move prior to the draft.

In58men
03-28-2021, 06:54 PM
Was DL a need heading into the draft? With this signing does this give KC some more wiggle room?

Hammock Parties
03-28-2021, 06:55 PM
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Chief Northman
03-28-2021, 06:59 PM
Holy shit....

When he was released in that original thread I told pugs that there was no way they would sign him because of money. I love to be wrong. This opens up so many things for the defensive line now...

Great move!

ChiefsFanatic
03-28-2021, 07:00 PM
Veach said he wanted to beef up the OL and DL...Let's hope Burtt Vatshce didn't neglect to put our linebacking corp on his To-Do List.

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-King-
03-28-2021, 07:02 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Last year Reed and Clark were together in SEA (both career years)<br><br>Reed 2018: 10.5 sacks as DT<br>Clark 2018: 13 sacks off edge <a href="https://t.co/MzZmyZaRfo">pic.twitter.com/MzZmyZaRfo</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Live (@ArrowheadLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadLive/status/1376334452377452544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hopefully this does help clark get back to how he played in Seattle. That would be a mean ass DL if so.

BossChief
03-28-2021, 07:08 PM
I wonder if he’s called KJ Wright to have him follow him to KC.

BossChief
03-28-2021, 07:11 PM
Crazy depth at DT.

Jones
Reed
Nnadi
Wharton
Saunders

UChieffyBugger
03-28-2021, 07:13 PM
VEEEEEAAACCCHHH YOU FECKING BEAUTIFIL SOB I WAS STARTING TO DOUBT YOU YESTERDAY LOL...LETS GO CHIIIIEEEFFFSSS.

ChiliConCarnage
03-28-2021, 07:15 PM
Not necessarily - if Jones is playing outside, still room for Reed and Pennel to clog up the middle.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Expect to see Chris Jones play more DE on first and second down, stay inside on 3rd down (was used like this in AFC Championship two years ago vs Titans).Reed acquisition going to make <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> DL much better, more multiple.</p>&mdash; Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LRiddickESPN/status/1376328194123563008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Ahh, this was what I was wondering. Makes sense and adds some flexibility to shift guys around

TambaBerry
03-28-2021, 07:20 PM
Pretty sure he has 4.5 sacks in 6 games once Dunlap got there

Bl00dyBizkitz
03-28-2021, 07:21 PM
In Veach we trust y'all. Good move.

Stryker
03-28-2021, 07:22 PM
Incredible sighing...

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arrowheadnation
03-28-2021, 07:25 PM
This should make Jones and Clark better. Less double teams.

Stryker
03-28-2021, 07:25 PM
This dude is a FUCKING BEAST!

tk13
03-28-2021, 07:27 PM
It's one thing I love about Spags... his teams seem to try and pile on the depth up front to try and wreck havoc.

smithandrew051
03-28-2021, 07:27 PM
5 quality bodies at the interior DL spots. This should give us more chances to shift Jones to end and open up the draft even more.

We’re getting VERY close to a straight BPA draft, which is fucking awesome.

smithandrew051
03-28-2021, 07:29 PM
I'm jacking off because of this!!!!

I was already jacking off, but this helped me finish!!!!

MahomesMagic
03-28-2021, 07:30 PM
Thuney, Long, and now Reed.

Keep getting nastier up the middle.

Chiefaholic
03-28-2021, 07:41 PM
HUGE signing... Our interior pass rush will be nasty.

Frazod
03-28-2021, 07:41 PM
Excellent.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/AVDRJEriLkuMo/200.gif

ThyKingdomCome15
03-28-2021, 07:43 PM
I know the SEA fans were really high on him the year we traded for Frank. Next to Chris this could be an interesting development.

ThyKingdomCome15
03-28-2021, 07:45 PM
5 quality bodies at the interior DL spots. This should give us more chances to shift Jones to end and open up the draft even more.

We’re getting VERY close to a straight BPA draft, which is ****ing awesome.

Best BPA at T and DE maybe.

pugsnotdrugs19
03-28-2021, 07:53 PM
Wow. Did not expect this one.

I’m fascinated to see what this means for Wharton who was really getting a lot of snaps last year as time went on it felt like. Also probably means Khalen Saunders is done.

Great add. If they have a plan to use him often, I’m all for it.

TambaBerry
03-28-2021, 07:59 PM
Wow. Did not expect this one.

I’m fascinated to see what this means for Wharton who was really getting a lot of snaps last year as time went on it felt like. Also probably means Khalen Saunders is done.

Great add. If they have a plan to use him often, I’m all for it.

Probably just more of a rotation keeping guys fresh

Chief Northman
03-28-2021, 08:01 PM
Wow. Did not expect this one.

I’m fascinated to see what this means for Wharton who was really getting a lot of snaps last year as time went on it felt like. Also probably means Khalen Saunders is done.

Great add. If they have a plan to use him often, I’m all for it.

Saunders will spell Nnadi at NT. Neither will be on the field in 3rd and long

pugsnotdrugs19
03-28-2021, 08:02 PM
Saunders will spell Nnadi at NT. Neither will be on the field in 3rd and long

Has Saunders played much at the 1-tech? I guess he hasn’t played much at all but it seems like it’s generally been at the 3.

I’m not saying you’re wrong, I hope you’re right. Otherwise we need to call Pennel.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
03-28-2021, 08:03 PM
Saunders should move to OLB

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2021, 08:03 PM
I have a hard time believing that the Chiefs would move on from Saunders when he has two years left on his rookie deal while Reed only signed a 1 year deal.

If history is any kind of indicator, the Chiefs need all of the big bodies they can get, especially since we're looking at a 20 game season.

pugsnotdrugs19
03-28-2021, 08:04 PM
Preparing for that SB rematch. ALL of the pressure coming in Brady’s face. Fuck boy.

CasselGotPeedOn
03-28-2021, 08:05 PM
Saunders should move to OLB

Of all the dumb shit you post, this is possibly the dumbest....

chiefzilla1501
03-28-2021, 08:05 PM
The amount the Chiefs put into both interiors is telling. Veach and Reid believe the game is moving this way. And when you look at the ways Aaron Donald moves around inside outside and how they can use Chris jones now that Reed is in the mix, you can see why.

Chief Northman
03-28-2021, 08:06 PM
I have a hard time believing that the Chiefs would move on from Saunders when he has two years left on his rookie deal while Reed only signed a 1 year deal.

If history is any kind of indicator, the Chiefs need all of the big bodies they can get, especially since we're looking at a 20 game season.

Yup.

If there’s an odd man out it is Pennel who likely won’t be brought back.

tyecopeland
03-28-2021, 08:06 PM
I am fully on board with this. If we can get more pressure with the line it takes pressure off our linebackers. Although I'd really like to upgrade there too.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
03-28-2021, 08:09 PM
Of all the dumb shit you post, this is possibly the dumbest....

He literally played OLB in the last regular season game and was pretty good

Chief Roundup
03-28-2021, 08:13 PM
Wow. Did not expect this one.

I’m fascinated to see what this means for Wharton who was really getting a lot of snaps last year as time went on it felt like. Also probably means Khalen Saunders is done.

Great add. If they have a plan to use him often, I’m all for it.

It is a 1 year deal. It doesn't mean anything when it comes to Saunders being done with the Chiefs. They are upgrading the pass rush however they can, wherever they can. Pennel is likely gone so it is still the same number at IDL.

The Franchise
03-28-2021, 08:15 PM
Holy fuck. Was not expecting this at all. They just need to add a DE in the draft and this line is fucking deep.

The Franchise
03-28-2021, 08:18 PM
Base package:

Jones - Reed - Nnadi - Clark

If we can get Ingram in here?

Ingram - Jones - Wharton - Clark for obvious passing downs. Fuck.

pugsnotdrugs19
03-28-2021, 08:22 PM
Base package:

Jones - Reed - Nnadi - Clark

If we can get Ingram in here?

Ingram - Jones - Wharton - Clark for obvious passing downs. ****.

It’s all about killing Tom Brady once and for all.

stumppy
03-28-2021, 08:26 PM
Yee fucking Ha!!!!

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
03-28-2021, 08:29 PM
Why would Reed come out in passing downs?

OKchiefs
03-28-2021, 08:33 PM
It is a 1 year deal. It doesn't mean anything when it comes to Saunders being done with the Chiefs. They are upgrading the pass rush however they can, wherever they can. Pennel is likely gone so it is still the same number at IDL.

Not necessarily, but I also imagine Saunders probably won’t be thrilled about the prospect of spending another year on the inactive list which seems likely at this point, unless he can play the nose and backup Nnadi.

The Franchise
03-28-2021, 08:35 PM
I wonder if they could move Wharton to DE. He isn’t huge by any means and he has the pass rush skills.

Rain Man
03-28-2021, 08:36 PM
Of all the dumb shit you post, this is possibly the dumbest....

Well, Saunders does have more experience there.

In58men
03-28-2021, 08:43 PM
He took less money to come to KC!!!!!

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
03-28-2021, 08:47 PM
He took less money to come to KC!!!!!

Yep he had 7 other teams wanting him as well

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
03-28-2021, 08:47 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The call was made 5 <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealFrankC_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRealFrankC_</a> 😌💰 man him wit <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@StoneColdJones</a> goin be stu <a href="https://t.co/43xEqQkapK">https://t.co/43xEqQkapK</a></p>&mdash; Taco Charlton (@TheSupremeTaco) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheSupremeTaco/status/1376362841125625862?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ThyKingdomCome15
03-28-2021, 08:51 PM
I don't see any mention of Taco Charlton. The guy was generating some heat before he got hurt. Lotta continuity on that DL this year. Taco-Clark-Reed have history.

eDave
03-28-2021, 08:52 PM
Mahomes meme game is elite.

He's so great.

eDave
03-28-2021, 08:53 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The call was made 5 <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealFrankC_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRealFrankC_</a> 😌💰 man him wit <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@StoneColdJones</a> goin be stu <a href="https://t.co/43xEqQkapK">https://t.co/43xEqQkapK</a></p>&mdash; Taco Charlton (@TheSupremeTaco) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheSupremeTaco/status/1376362841125625862?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What?

Titty Meat
03-28-2021, 08:53 PM
If we get Okung anyway we draft a pass rusher at 31?

staylor26
03-28-2021, 08:53 PM
If we get Okung anyway we draft a pass rusher at 31?

Absolutely.

The Franchise
03-28-2021, 08:54 PM
If we get Okung anyway we draft a pass rusher at 31?

Or WR.

I’m guessing it’s going to be WR, DE and OT in the first three rounds. Not necessarily in that order.

Titty Meat
03-28-2021, 08:55 PM
What?

Frank Clark contacted him via his cellular device. Clark,Reed, and Jones will play together at a high level.

Goin stu is slang for going stupid aka all out.

staylor26
03-28-2021, 08:56 PM
Or WR.

I’m guessing it’s going to be WR, DE and OT in the first three rounds. Not necessarily in that order.

Agreed.

Unless a C falls into our lap at 63 or 94.

Titty Meat
03-28-2021, 08:59 PM
Or WR.

I’m guessing it’s going to be WR, DE and OT in the first three rounds. Not necessarily in that order.

If all things are equal I'd prefer a pass rusher with Clark assuming he plays like he did in the playoffs in 2020, with Reed and Jones you would have 1 of the best rushes in the league with an above average secondary. I think Mahomes, Kelce, Hill and CEH alone is a top 5 offense. Going to be very tough for teams to beat us.

staylor26
03-28-2021, 09:00 PM
If all things are equal I'd prefer a pass rusher with Clark assuming he plays like he did in the playoffs in 2020, with Reed and Jones you would have 1 of the best rushes in the league with an above average secondary. I think Mahomes, Kelce, Hill and CEH alone is a top 5 offense. Going to be very tough for teams to beat us.

Ohh just wait until Willie Gay is out there playing instinctively...

royr17
03-28-2021, 09:01 PM
Absolutely.

WR. If we get Okung biggest need becomes WR. We can find a good OT in the 2nd round.

Titty Meat
03-28-2021, 09:03 PM
Ohh just wait until Willie Gay is out there playing instinctively...

Ya that would be a top 5-10 defense. They arent losing the super bowl next year.

staylor26
03-28-2021, 09:03 PM
Ya that would be a top 5-10 defense. They arent losing the super bowl next year.

With a defense like that, we can afford to start a rookie LT.

Titty Meat
03-28-2021, 09:04 PM
WR. If we get Okung biggest need becomes WR. We can find a good OT in the 2nd round.

You get Okung with that interior and you could play me at WR. Mahomes with 4 seconds to throw is game over.

The Franchise
03-28-2021, 09:04 PM
If all things are equal I'd prefer a pass rusher with Clark assuming he plays like he did in the playoffs in 2020, with Reed and Jones you would have 1 of the best rushes in the league with an above average secondary. I think Mahomes, Kelce, Hill and CEH alone is a top 5 offense. Going to be very tough for teams to beat us.

Oh I’m good with a DE in the first, trading up for your OT in the second and then a WR in the third. This WR class is deep so I’m positive we can find one on the second day.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
03-28-2021, 09:04 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jarran Reed gave up an $8.5 million bird in the hand with Seahawks for a $5 million base salary in Kansas City. Under no plausible explanation can that be called a good move for him.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1376361477423169537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise
03-28-2021, 09:05 PM
Who is on the Seahawks defensive line? He’ll get more opportunity here and he’s got a better shot at a ring.

Chief Roundup
03-28-2021, 09:07 PM
If we get Okung anyway we draft a pass rusher at 31?

I hope we don't put that much stock in a guy who has only played in 13 games combined in the last 2 years. He will be 33 a little over a month into the season.

staylor26
03-28-2021, 09:07 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jarran Reed gave up an $8.5 million bird in the hand with Seahawks for a $5 million base salary in Kansas City. Under no plausible explanation can that be called a good move for him.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1376361477423169537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Haha Florio is salty.

staylor26
03-28-2021, 09:08 PM
I hope we don't put that much stock in a guy who has only played in 13 games combined in the last 2 years. He will be 33 a little over a month into the season.

The idea is that Okung allows you to take a guy in the 2nd or even trade up for one.

This T class is very deep.

royr17
03-28-2021, 09:11 PM
You get Okung with that interior and you could play me at WR. Mahomes with 4 seconds to throw is game over.

I want them to somehow get Bateman or Marshall. Damn. Key on Hill and Kelce. Hardman goes long and Marshall or Bateman plays the Watkins role. Lord help.

New World Order
03-28-2021, 09:16 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jarran Reed gave up an $8.5 million bird in the hand with Seahawks for a $5 million base salary in Kansas City. Under no plausible explanation can that be called a good move for him.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1376361477423169537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He has the chance to play alongside an elite pass rushing DT which can really boost his numbers for a big contract, dipshit Florio

Chieftain
03-28-2021, 09:19 PM
I really like this just like the Thuney signing. Maybe not getting Trent Williams was a blessing. You can get 3 quality players for the money we would've spent on him.

staylor26
03-28-2021, 09:22 PM
I really like this just like the Thuney signing. Maybe not getting Trent Williams was a blessing. You can get 3 quality players for the money we would've spent on him.

As disappointing as it was, if we can add another guy like Ingram, and hit on a rookie LT, it will be.

Hoover
03-28-2021, 09:44 PM
He has the chance to play alongside an elite pass rushing DT which can really boost his numbers for a big contract, dipshit Florio
And Seattle has become a shit show with the Wilson drama

Chief Roundup
03-28-2021, 09:45 PM
The idea is that Okung allows you to take a guy in the 2nd or even trade up for one.



This T class is very deep.I doubt that any of the ones that can be ready to take over half way through the season, if not sooner, will be available with our 2cd, maybe Walker Little.

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Chief Pagan
03-28-2021, 09:49 PM
He took less money to come to KC!!!!!

Insert:

It's happening.

Chief Pagan
03-28-2021, 09:50 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jarran Reed gave up an $8.5 million bird in the hand with Seahawks for a $5 million base salary in Kansas City. Under no plausible explanation can that be called a good move for him.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1376361477423169537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Insert:

It's happening.

Buehler445
03-28-2021, 09:51 PM
And Seattle has become a shit show with the Wilson drama

Yep. He may just want the fuck out.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
03-28-2021, 09:55 PM
To be fair Reed was cut by the Seahawks to save cap space

ThyKingdomCome15
03-28-2021, 10:27 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jarran Reed gave up an $8.5 million bird in the hand with Seahawks for a $5 million base salary in Kansas City. Under no plausible explanation can that be called a good move for him.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1376361477423169537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I despise that man with an undying passion.

Chieftain
03-28-2021, 10:29 PM
Reed will be a factor with the run D when facing teams like the Ravens.

OKchiefs
03-28-2021, 10:33 PM
To be fair Reed was cut by the Seahawks to save cap space

And?

That defense in Seattle is a shit show. In KC where he doesn’t have to be the focal point he has a chance to make some noise.

Chief Northman
03-28-2021, 10:50 PM
I like the idea of reuniting Clark with Reed given their past production together. Another guy I would like the Chiefs to reunite with Jarran Reed? Reuben Foster. You would think they could get him for a song. He would have to check out medically, but it looks like his off field issues are behind him and between the injuries and off field drama, Foster showed that he was productive when on the field. He could be a great salvage project for Veach.

Chris Meck
03-28-2021, 10:55 PM
y'all happy now muthafuckas?

D.A.P.
03-28-2021, 11:27 PM
Fully Qrect

D.A.P.
03-28-2021, 11:28 PM
Fully erect

cdcox
03-28-2021, 11:50 PM
He is very quick once he comes off the block. I think he has upside. Very good signing.

bringbackmarty
03-29-2021, 12:49 AM
Saunders is likely gone but who knows. The guy joking about moving saunders to olb was probably in reference to the last game of the regular season where saunders saw a lot of snaps at olb. Flame away.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
03-29-2021, 12:55 AM
Saunders is likely gone but who knows. The guy joking about moving saunders to olb was probably in reference to the last game of the regular season where saunders saw a lot of snaps at olb. Flame away.

Exactly what I was referring to! Saunders was moving too tbh. He’s athletic enough and probably better than Niemann. We do have a hole at OLB 👀 . Hitchens Gay and then who else??

Titty Meat
03-29-2021, 04:08 AM
As disappointing as it was, if we can add another guy like Ingram, and hit on a rookie LT, it will be.

This will kill me on here but it was apparently obvious in the Tampa game. I think this offenses evolution will be kinda a mixture of what we saw from 2013-2016 where the 2 or 3 tight end set with more of a run game will be more of a thing think even with those Patriots teams with Gronk and Hernandez. That's where a guy like Brevin Jordan comes into the equation. That's not to say Mahomes wont take his shots downfield but I think this possibly could be the "new" wrinkle in the offense.

Dull Tools
03-29-2021, 04:47 AM
If we can get a decent edge rusher like Ingram or we go edge rusher in the first round then our DL is set next year and will be a massive upgrade on last year.

A lot of people have the edge rushers going late in the first round so it would be great if we could get a highly rated guy there like Phillips.

We could then trade up in the second to get a tackle early in the second round.

pugsnotdrugs19
03-29-2021, 06:22 AM
Exactly what I was referring to! Saunders was moving too tbh. He’s athletic enough and probably better than Niemann. We do have a hole at OLB 👀 . Hitchens Gay and then who else??

What in the fuck?

You realize Saunders would be a coverage player at OLB right? Teams would just abuse him.

lcarus
03-29-2021, 06:41 AM
Mahomes meme game is elite.

He just tweets the tiniest thing and all his mouth-breathing haters come like moths to a flame.

The Chiefs sign a backup special teams player and you'll see at least 3 tweets "How much help does Mahomes neeeeeed!?!"

Anyway, back to Jarran Reed discussion. I love the signing.

bowener
03-29-2021, 07:02 AM
This will kill me on here but it was apparently obvious in the Tampa game. I think this offenses evolution will be kinda a mixture of what we saw from 2013-2016 where the 2 or 3 tight end set with more of a run game will be more of a thing think even with those Patriots teams with Gronk and Hernandez. That's where a guy like Brevin Jordan comes into the equation. That's not to say Mahomes wont take his shots downfield but I think this possibly could be the "new" wrinkle in the offense.

Brevin Jordan has been my dark horse favorite after best LT available. He's got the potential to be a scary weapon in Andy's offense.

Pitt Gorilla
03-29-2021, 07:24 AM
I really like this just like the Thuney signing. Maybe not getting Trent Williams was a blessing. You can get 3 quality players for the money we would've spent on him.

That's been my point all along. Trent was FAR too expensive.

O.city
03-29-2021, 07:31 AM
Nicely done. Good signing.

He's a damn fine player.

Hoover
03-29-2021, 07:32 AM
This signing also goes a long way in telling fans to calm the fuck down.

There are still going to be good players cut from teams and the Chiefs have the means to acquire some if they so choose. This is a great move for a number of reasons, but it also shows you how the NFL is more of a game of 3D chess, than it is checkers. Yeah we have holes to fill, but signing Reed allows us to utilize existing talent differently is some situations.

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 07:32 AM
Love it.

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 07:35 AM
This signing also goes a long way in telling fans to calm the fuck down.

There are still going to be good players cut from teams and the Chiefs have the means to acquire some if they so choose. This is a great move for a number of reasons, but it also shows you how the NFL is more of a game of 3D chess, than it is checkers. Yeah we have holes to fill, but signing Reed allows us to utilize existing talent differently is some situations.

For one thing, it allows them to use Jones at DE, which offers more flexibility in acquiring another DE.

Hoover
03-29-2021, 07:48 AM
For one thing, it allows them to use Jones at DE, which offers more flexibility in acquiring another DE.

Thats my point.

Marcellus
03-29-2021, 07:51 AM
And just like that, suddenly, Veach is good at his job again.

Skyy God
03-29-2021, 07:55 AM
Be nice if Ingram circled back and signed to bolster the end.

Do they have enough money left to sign Ingram and a veteran LT?

Probably not.

Maybe if they do 2 year deals with lower 2021 cap hits.

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 07:59 AM
Probably not.

Maybe if they do 2 year deals with lower 2021 cap hits.

With Ingram and Okung, you have guys with extensive injury histories. They can easily afford both on 1-year deals.

The Franchise
03-29-2021, 08:05 AM
With Ingram and Okung, you have guys with extensive injury histories. They can easily afford both on 1-year deals.

Yeah. They still have the Mathieu extension if they want more money.

RunKC
03-29-2021, 08:10 AM
Spags gonna get his early pass rusher at end regardless of Ingram and it’s going to be awesome. We all know Spags loves having a deep defensive line

Mahomes4MVP
03-29-2021, 08:11 AM
Saunders should move to OLB

He's 6' tall and 324 lbs. - might struggle in pass coverage...:)

O.city
03-29-2021, 08:17 AM
No one is gonna sign anything more than a 1 year deal at this point, so allocate funds accordingly.

PHOG
03-29-2021, 08:18 AM
Way to go, Bart Vatch! Never disappoints! Keep 'em coming! ;)

O.city
03-29-2021, 08:20 AM
I'd guess this means Ingram goes elsewhere, which is whatevs.

Draft a developmental DE somewhere early in the draft

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 08:36 AM
I'd guess this means Ingram goes elsewhere, which is whatevs.

Draft a developmental DE somewhere early in the draft

I don't think it means anything about Ingram. They could still sign him, they have the money.

But if it were an either/or situation, Reed is definitely the bigger get.

In58men
03-29-2021, 08:36 AM
I'd guess this means Ingram goes elsewhere, which is whatevs.

Draft a developmental DE somewhere early in the draft

Might not be gone, Saints just picked up Tanoh

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 08:37 AM
Might not be gone, Saints just picked up Tanoh

KPass is gone?

That's a relief.

In58men
03-29-2021, 08:38 AM
KPass is gone?

That's a relief.

Yes sir, 2-year deal.

BossChief
03-29-2021, 08:47 AM
I don't think it means anything about Ingram. They could still sign him, they have the money.

But if it were an either/or situation, Reed is definitely the bigger get.

He would have to be ok with very light guarantees.

I wonder how the communication between Brett Veach and Justin Houston is after their parting of ways. Imo he would be a perfect signing.

O.city
03-29-2021, 08:49 AM
I don't think it means anything about Ingram. They could still sign him, they have the money.

But if it were an either/or situation, Reed is definitely the bigger get.

According to Verderame, it lessens the chance of Ingram.

I'd still like to add him, I don't think you can have too many pass rushers

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 08:56 AM
According to Verderame, it lessens the chance of Ingram.

I'd still like to add him, I don't think you can have too many pass rushers

It might lessen the chance, I just don't think it precludes signing him altogether.

They still could. Doesn't mean they will.

The Franchise
03-29-2021, 08:57 AM
Thinking about it more this morning and I can see them going OT, TE and WR in the first three rounds. If they’re going to move Jones around the defensive line now, you can grab a DE in the 4th round range and put together a pass rush just based on depth alone.

Get a guy like Eichenberg or Cosmi in the first, Brevin Jordan in the 2nd (or Tremble in the 3rd) and a WR in the opposite round. That helps the offense a ton and the defense is still good with a DE, CB and dime LB in the later rounds.

Chargem
03-29-2021, 08:57 AM
There's probably scope for 2 more vets? Think I would rather have Reiter/Okung than a DE now.

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 08:57 AM
He would have to be ok with very light guarantees.

I wonder how the communication between Brett Veach and Justin Houston is after their parting of ways. Imo he would be a perfect signing.

For the money, I'd rather have Houston anyway. Ingram's injury history is worrisome. The last thing we need is him and Taco fighting over a table in the training room.

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 08:59 AM
There's probably scope for 2 more vets? Think I would rather have Reiter/Okung than a DE now.

Same here.

O.city
03-29-2021, 09:09 AM
I'd guess they do Reiter then a few small depth FA's then just teh draft.

smithandrew051
03-29-2021, 09:12 AM
There's probably scope for 2 more vets? Think I would rather have Reiter/Okung than a DE now.

I will agree with this.

If we make those two moves, then we’re in pretty good shape.

We can draft DE, WR, future OT without being forced to reach for a position of need.

Toad
03-29-2021, 09:18 AM
I'd guess they do Reiter then a few small depth FA's then just teh draft.

Yep. OC seems to be the biggest gap right now. Right behind that should be the contingency LT plan (so Andy won’t have to start a rookie/unknown).

UChieffyBugger
03-29-2021, 09:25 AM
As far as defensive ends are concerned surely they sign a vet?? Right now all we got is Clark and practice squad guys. Even if you want to put Jones out there a few times you can't leave yourself with one preven vet, A rookie and Jones..you just can't. Especially when Clark can often miss a game or two.

Clowney, Houston, Kerrigan, Aldon Smith and Ingram are all out there...get one, draft a rookie and we have the best DL in the game imo.

Edit: we got Taco too but again he has injury issues too.

golfindude
03-29-2021, 09:30 AM
Put together a dominant defense, run the ball more behind a better OL. Is that the plan ?

O.city
03-29-2021, 09:34 AM
I'd really like to have HOuston back, but I'm guessing that bridge is burned.

Gary Cooper
03-29-2021, 09:53 AM
Put together a dominant defense, run the ball more behind a better OL. Is that the plan ?

If they don't add anything significant at WR, it's probably a good idea. They lost Watkins and no telling how Hardman will develop. Robinson will never be a good #2 WR. There's still the draft of course and free agency isn't over.

Not sure about "dominant defense". Middle of the pack is all we need if the offense plays like it's supposed to. The LB position is still weak and the pass rush was inconsistent last year.

kcclone
03-29-2021, 10:00 AM
Put together a dominant defense, run the ball more behind a better OL. Is that the plan ?

I'm fine with this. Protects Mahomes better (think longer career.... worked for Brady).

If they go this route, I would prioritize a TE2 over adding another big name WR.

tmax63
03-29-2021, 10:06 AM
In the grand scheme of things TE2 sucks worse than WR2 at this point. Picking up a complement to TK than can block well helps both the receiving corps and helping a rookie LT block on ocasion.

BigCatDaddy
03-29-2021, 10:07 AM
Put together a dominant defense, run the ball more behind a better OL. Is that the plan ?

Andy Reid will never run the ball more especially with PM2 behind center.

The Franchise
03-29-2021, 10:12 AM
Andy Reid will never run the ball more especially with PM2 behind center.

I don’t think he has to. We can continue to run it like we do but it will be more successful behind a better offensive line.

O.city
03-29-2021, 10:14 AM
The Chiefs have had one of the best offenses in the league the last 3 years (2018 was one of the best in NFL history) and people want them to change the approach?

Nah.

The Franchise
03-29-2021, 10:22 AM
The Chiefs have had one of the best offenses in the league the last 3 years (2018 was one of the best in NFL history) and people want them to change the approach?

Nah.

I think adding a second TE and a replacement for Watkins doesn’t mean that you change the offense. It allows you to do more of what you do now. Add guys who can tear up the intermediate parts of the field and still help underneath in shallow routes.

O.city
03-29-2021, 10:23 AM
I think adding a second TE and a replacement for Watkins doesn’t mean that you change the offense. It allows you to do more of what you do now. Add guys who can tear up the intermediate parts of the field and still help underneath in shallow routes.

Talking more about the "build up the OL and run the ball more".

Nah, no thanks. Build up the OL to pass block and throw it more.

The Franchise
03-29-2021, 10:26 AM
Talking more about the "build up the OL and run the ball more".

Nah, no thanks. Build up the OL to pass block and throw it more.

Most definitely. We just need better push in the run game from our improved offensive line.

Gary Cooper
03-29-2021, 10:29 AM
I don’t think he has to. We can continue to run it like we do but it will be more successful behind a better offensive line.

Especially in the red zone. This team runs too many gimmick plays near the goal line because they simply can't punch it in traditionally. Kelce gets mugged and Hill's speed is irrelevant in the passing game when there's no space behind the defense. Also, we don't have any receiver to run fade routes with.

The easiest way to score in the red zone is to run the ball. Hopefully, the new OL will make that more possible.

Chris Meck
03-29-2021, 10:32 AM
We need to be more of a threat to run the ball. If a defense has to play KC honest, they're in real trouble.

I don't think we're suddenly going to play Martyball or anything, but if we CAN run the ball and are a threat to do so, we'll see something more like the 2018 offense, which was the last time we actually COULD run the ball consistently.

Whosurdaddy
03-29-2021, 10:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5SJJHhsdUQ

I think the Tremble guy is better in the passing game than people think. He's a monster for outside runs though. Could be a awesome mid round pick that could change some things for us.

RunKC
03-29-2021, 11:51 AM
Or WR.

I’m guessing it’s going to be WR, DE and OT in the first three rounds. Not necessarily in that order.

Corner is full of riches in this draft. Dane Brugler just tweeted that he has 11 graded as top 62 picks.

I think they may take one based on principle, especially that Memphis kid that House coached. Then take one in the 4th that has traits and wait out Ingram.

Gonna be really damn interesting to see

In58men
03-29-2021, 11:55 AM
I really want OT in the 1st round. I know it’s not sexy, but if we can give Mahomes a couple more seconds and CEH some help, we could do anything.

Go after Terrace Marshall Jr in the 2nd or Tylan Wallace. I also think we can land quality OT in the 2nd and go WR in round 1.

Titty Meat
03-29-2021, 11:55 AM
The Chiefs have had one of the best offenses in the league the last 3 years (2018 was one of the best in NFL history) and people want them to change the approach?

Nah.

Their approach will be changed by other teams whether you like it or not that's the reality. Teams are going to continue to play guys 15-20 yards from the LOS in order to not get beat deep.

staylor26
03-29-2021, 11:56 AM
Corner is full of riches in this draft. Dane Brugler just tweeted that he has 11 graded as top 62 picks.

I think they may take one based on principle, especially that Memphis kid that House coached. Then take one in the 4th that has traits and wait out Ingram.

Gonna be really damn interesting to see

Do you mean Kentucky? Kelvin Joseph?

He’s an LSU transfer. House didn’t coach him. Jamin Davis, the LB, is the guy that House coached/recruited.

The Franchise
03-29-2021, 12:01 PM
Do you mean Kentucky? Kelvin Joseph?

He’s an LSU transfer. House didn’t coach him. Jamin Davis, the LB, is the guy that House coached/recruited.

Davis is the guy I want. Especially if they’re looking to get rid of Hitchens after this season. Not sure he’ll even be there at 63 though.

O.city
03-29-2021, 12:03 PM
Their approach will be changed by other teams whether you like it or not that's the reality. Teams are going to continue to play guys 15-20 yards from the LOS in order to not get beat deep.

Thats great.

Keep throwing it. Throw it short I guess.

You guys can keep hoping for your ground and pound run game I guess.

Chargem
03-29-2021, 12:04 PM
The Chiefs have had one of the best offenses in the league the last 3 years (2018 was one of the best in NFL history) and people want them to change the approach?

Nah.

Holy shit I actually agree with you. Never thought this day would come :clap:

O.city
03-29-2021, 12:06 PM
Holy shit I actually agree with you. Never thought this day would come :clap:

You'd be right alot more often if you did.

TEX
03-29-2021, 12:10 PM
Thats great.

Keep throwing it. Throw it short I guess.

You guys can keep hoping for your ground and pound run game I guess.


Not "ground & pound," but kind of like it was with Kareem Hunt.

RunKC
03-29-2021, 12:11 PM
Do you mean Kentucky? Kelvin Joseph?

He’s an LSU transfer. House didn’t coach him. Jamin Davis, the LB, is the guy that House coached/recruited.

Yeah my bad Idk why I got those 2 mixed up.

But yeah Jamin Davis is interesting too. Isn’t he a possible 1st but most likely early 2nd guy?

staylor26
03-29-2021, 12:13 PM
Yeah my bad Idk why I got those 2 mixed up.

But yeah Jamin Davis is interesting too. Isn’t he a possible 1st but most likely early 2nd guy?

Yea I don’t think we get a shot at him.

O.city
03-29-2021, 12:35 PM
Not "ground & pound," but kind of like it was with Kareem Hunt.

The 2018 Chiefs rushed for 55 more yards than the 2020 Chiefs and CEH had 809 yards thru 13 games.

I think they were fine.

Toad
03-29-2021, 12:39 PM
Chiefs don’t need to make drastic changes to run vs pass play count. In fact, Andy has always been inclined to pass more.

However, they do need to evolve and adapt. Someone mentioned red zone offense. Chiefs were middle of the pack (ranked 16th) in red zone touchdowns. A better run game will definitely help improve that.

O.city
03-29-2021, 12:40 PM
Improve the OL where the QB isn't running for his life and all the problems are fixed.

Chief Northman
03-29-2021, 12:40 PM
I think everybody gets carried away about the House connection to Jaman Davis. I have no clue why this guy is getting hyped like he is - I watch film on him, and I just don’t see it.

His film suggests he should be no more than a third or fourth fourth round player at best.

O.city
03-29-2021, 12:40 PM
Any plan that will reduce the amount of times the ball is in Mahomes hand should be scrapped. Why in the world would we want to do that?

The Franchise
03-29-2021, 12:44 PM
I think everybody gets carried away about the House connection to Jaman Davis. I have no clue why this guy is getting hyped like he is - I watch film on him, and I just don’t see it.

His film suggests he should be no more than a third or fourth fourth round player at best.

You’ve watched film? What film would that be?

Pasta Little Brioni
03-29-2021, 01:01 PM
Now get Okung/Ingram, nail the draft and head back to a 3rd straight SB. Fuck, we probably have enough already.

Chief Pagan
03-29-2021, 01:04 PM
I think adding a second TE and a replacement for Watkins doesn’t mean that you change the offense. It allows you to do more of what you do now. Add guys who can tear up the intermediate parts of the field and still help underneath in shallow routes.

Yes, and it would also help to have somebody so the offense didn't take such a big hit when Kelce is out.

Chief Northman
03-29-2021, 01:08 PM
You’ve watched film? What film would that be?

Really?

There’s a wonderful invention called YouTube that has numerous full games of Kentucky football and some people are even kind enough to do all 22 breakdowns.

O.city
03-29-2021, 01:23 PM
Now get Okung/Ingram, nail the draft and head back to a 3rd straight SB. ****, we probably have enough already.

I'm just not an Okung fan. I'd rather draft someone in the first or second and play him at LT>

Hammock Parties
03-29-2021, 01:28 PM
LMAOO

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Exq5qsxXAAELrfZ?format=jpg&name=900x900

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 01:30 PM
I'm just not an Okung fan. I'd rather draft someone in the first or second and play him at LT>

Signing Okung or another stop-gap allows you take the best long-term prospect at LT. It's a win-win.

BossChief
03-29-2021, 01:31 PM
I'm just not an Okung fan. I'd rather draft someone in the first or second and play him at LT>

Okung = Watkins

Watkins = Okung

If we’re going the veteran route then at least you can count on Villanueva being able to play and be consistent. Okung is ALWAYS hurt.

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 01:32 PM
Corner is full of riches in this draft. Dane Brugler just tweeted that he has 11 graded as top 62 picks.

I think they may take one based on principle, especially that Memphis kid that House coached. Then take one in the 4th that has traits and wait out Ingram.

Gonna be really damn interesting to see

They seem to be really interested in CB's, especially guys that could go around 31.

I think a big part of it is the cost control you get with a first round draft pick. CB's can be really expensive.

bricks
03-29-2021, 01:36 PM
Okung = Watkins

Watkins = Okung

If we’re going the veteran route then at least you can count on Villanueva being able to play and be consistent. Okung is ALWAYS hurt.

This. I agree.

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 01:36 PM
Okung = Watkins

Watkins = Okung

If we’re going the veteran route then at least you can count on Villanueva being able to play and be consistent. Okung is ALWAYS hurt.

Fine.

Villanueva then.

It doesn't really matter. Signing a bridge vet allows you the best probability to get the right LT in the draft.

O.city
03-29-2021, 01:41 PM
Fine.

Villanueva then.

It doesn't really matter. Signing a bridge vet allows you the best probability to get the right LT in the draft.

How does signing a vet matter in that regard?

O.city
03-29-2021, 01:42 PM
The best probability in the draft to get the right LT is to trade up for one of the elite prospects. Thats too costly. Or so I hear ;)

Sassy Squatch
03-29-2021, 01:45 PM
How does signing a vet matter in that regard?
I'm with you. Nothing but a bunch of below average stopgaps left now at the position. Signing any of them wouldn't really move the needle since we're still drafting a LT high, most likely in the first.

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 01:46 PM
The best probability in the draft to get the right LT is to trade up for one of the elite prospects. Thats too costly. Or so I hear ;)

They're not trading up into the top 7-8 for a tackle. That's what it would take to get Sewell.

The gap between Slater/Darrisaw and Cosmi/Eichenberg isn't worth it.

You're just throwing away resources.

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 01:47 PM
I'm with you. Nothing but a bunch of below average stopgaps left now at the position. Signing any of them wouldn't really move the needle since we're still drafting a LT high, most likely in the first.

Even if they trade up in the 1st, there's no guarantee the guy can or will start day 1.

Signing a stop gap gives them options with little to no additional cost. There's no reason NOT to do it, especially if you're dead set on drafting a LT high.

DaneMcCloud
03-29-2021, 01:49 PM
How does signing a vet matter in that regard?

Because the NFLPA is pushing for a "Virtual Offseason" again this year.

Do you really want a rookie LT starting in Week 1 just a few weeks after joining the team and limited practice time?

O.city
03-29-2021, 01:49 PM
Even if they trade up in the 1st, there's no guarantee the guy can or will start day 1.

Signing a stop gap gives them options with little to no additional cost. There's no reason NOT to do it, especially if you're dead set on drafting a LT high.

I'd imagine one of those two LT's woudl cost 8 million or so.

If you're trading up for a LT, he's your LT day one. IF he can't be that, don't trade up for him

Sassy Squatch
03-29-2021, 01:50 PM
Well, yeah, but your point was signing a veteran LT gives them a better chance at getting the right LT in the draft. I fail to see how they correlate at all. Veach and Reid probably already have their draftboard set and signing a stopgap won't change that.

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 01:51 PM
I'd imagine one of those two LT's woudl cost 8 million or so.

Russell Okung is NOT getting $8M AAV. You're way off.

If you're trading up for a LT, he's your LT day one. IF he can't be that, don't trade up for him

What if the Chiefs don't believe ANY of them can start day one? I guess we shouldn't draft a LT at all then, right? If that's your criteria for a good pick, you're locking yourself into failing the draft. That's not the way good teams approach it, sorry.

O.city
03-29-2021, 01:51 PM
Because the NFLPA is pushing for a "Virtual Offseason" again this year.

Do you really want a rookie LT starting in Week 1 just a few weeks after joining the team and limited practice time?

Ok, then are we not gonna count on any draft pick to start? What if we take a WR or a DE?

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 01:52 PM
Well, yeah, but your point was signing a veteran LT gives them a better chance at getting the right LT in the draft. I fail to see how they correlate at all. Veach and Reid probably already have their draftboard set and signing a stopgap won't change that.

Because a guy like Eichenberg can start Day 1 but may never be an elite LT.

Whereas a guy like Cosmi might need a year to develop but could be an all pro for 8+ years.

It isn't just about next year. Not with a first round draft pick.

O.city
03-29-2021, 01:53 PM
Russell Okung is NOT getting $8M AAV. You're way off.



What if the Chiefs don't believe ANY of them can start day one? I guess we shouldn't draft a LT at all then, right? If that's your criteria for a good pick, you're locking yourself into failing the draft. That's not the way good teams approach it, sorry.

Don't trade up for a guy that isn't ready to step in and start.

If none of them can start, don't take one. I'd be pretty skeptical that's the case though.

Good teams aren't good without a LT either. So something needs to give there.

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 01:53 PM
Ok, then are we not gonna count on any draft pick to start? What if we take a WR or a DE?

How often do rookies start for Andy Reid? Chances are ANYBODY they take is going to be a rotational player to start.

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 01:54 PM
Don't trade up for a guy that isn't ready to step in and start.

If none of them can start, don't take one. I'd be pretty skeptical that's the case though.

Good teams aren't good without a LT either. So something needs to give there.

They wouldn't be without a LT if they sign one. That's the whole freaking point.

Chargem
03-29-2021, 01:54 PM
Any plan that will reduce the amount of times the ball is in Mahomes hand should be scrapped. Why in the world would we want to do that?

I don't know why I didn't think of this before, but the Chiefs just need to increase their percentage of 2 tight end sets, but not decrease their passing percentage.

I would be amazed if defenses still played 2 deep shells against that kind of formation.

Sassy Squatch
03-29-2021, 01:54 PM
Because a guy like Eichenberg can start Day 1 but may never be an elite LT.

Whereas a guy like Cosmi might need a year to develop but could be an all pro for 8+ years.

It isn't just about next year. Not with a first round draft pick.
Like I said, they've probably already got a decent idea of who they're targeting and signing/not signing a stopgap won't change much if anything on that front.

O.city
03-29-2021, 01:55 PM
Because a guy like Eichenberg can start Day 1 but may never be an elite LT.

Whereas a guy like Cosmi might need a year to develop but could be an all pro for 8+ years.

It isn't just about next year. Not with a first round draft pick.

If thats the case, you can protect him that first year like they did Fisher.

Either way, if they take a LT in the first this year, he'll be your starter at LT in Sep.

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 01:55 PM
Like I said, they've probably already got a decent idea of who they're targeting and signing/not signing a stopgap won't change much if anything on that front.

They've met with exactly zero draft-eligible tackles. Their draft board most certainly is not set.

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 01:56 PM
If thats the case, you can protect him that first year like they did Fisher.

Either way, if they take a LT in the first this year, he'll be your starter at LT in Sep.

Eric Fisher played RIGHT tackle his rookie year. Once again, you're off.

O.city
03-29-2021, 01:57 PM
They wouldn't be without a LT if they sign one. That's the whole freaking point.

There's an obvious reason the guys available right now at LT aren't signed.

Hell, I'd put whats his face we traded for from Houston at LT before I'd waste any money on any of the vets left out there.

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 01:57 PM
My apologies. They met with Teven Jenkins, a guy you're all convinced is a right tackle.

So much for that.

O.city
03-29-2021, 01:58 PM
Eric Fisher played RIGHT tackle his rookie year. Once again, you're off.

Yes, and they protected him with alot of chips and TE's and such. I said nothing about which tackle spot he started at.

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 01:58 PM
There's an obvious reason the guys available right now at LT aren't signed.

Hell, I'd put whats his face we traded for from Houston at LT before I'd waste any money on any of the vets left out there.

Rankin?

ROFL

O.city
03-29-2021, 01:59 PM
How often do rookies start for Andy Reid? Chances are ANYBODY they take is going to be a rotational player to start.

Andy's first round picks have started that first year here the majority of the time (Mahomes seemingly being the obvious outlier).

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 01:59 PM
Yes, and they protected him with alot of chips and TE's and such. I said nothing about which tackle spot he started at.

You flat out said if they draft a tackle in the first he has to start at LEFT tackle.

You cited Eric Fisher, who didn't even play left tackle.

You're contradicting yourself with every post.

O.city
03-29-2021, 02:00 PM
Rankin?

ROFL

He's probably about as good as Villanueva at this point. Okung is better, but he'd be hurt after a game or two anyway.

Sassy Squatch
03-29-2021, 02:00 PM
They've met with exactly zero draft-eligible tackles. Their draft board most certainly is not set.
Where did I say it was set? I said they probably have at least an idea of who they want, and if anything the visits we schedule will make it clear who those prospects are.

O.city
03-29-2021, 02:01 PM
You flat out said if they draft a tackle in the first he has to start at LEFT tackle.

You cited Eric Fisher, who didn't even play left tackle.

You're contradicting yourself with every post.

If they draft a tackle in the first yes, he needs to play LT because they don't currently have a LT. They have a RT.

In Fishers case he was drafted to be the LT but they had a LT already and didn't have a RT.

So no, I'm not.

Whats it matter either way? THey can give help to the LT in the same regard if needed.

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 02:02 PM
Where did I say it was set? I said they probably have at least an idea of who they want, and if anything the visits we schedule will make it clear who those prospects are.

They've met with Jenkins. O thinks he's a right tackle.

The Chiefs must be clueless.

htismaqe
03-29-2021, 02:02 PM
If they draft a tackle in the first yes, he needs to play LT because they don't currently have a LT. They have a RT.

In Fishers case he was drafted to be the LT but they had a LT already and didn't have a RT.

So no, I'm not.

Whats it matter either way? THey can give help to the LT in the same regard if needed.

I'm done talking about it.

There's only one way for them to do this according to you. You're not being reasonable or rational, just stubborn.

Hoover
03-29-2021, 02:04 PM
I don't know, drafting at 31, I'd say its doubtful anyone we draft at that spot will be a day one starter.

I mean look how hard it is for WRs to learn Reid's offense....
Will a rookie DE really start on day one with Jones playing more on the end and over Taco and the rest of the crew.

Just take that best damn playmaker available at 31, and for the love of god stop acting like we have to trade up and blow up the rest of our draft to get a tackle.