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Tribal Warfare
04-21-2021, 06:11 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">While we bolstered the offensive line during free agency, the competition could get even better with the addition of any of these prospects! <a href="https://t.co/FfojMhVX4X">pic.twitter.com/FfojMhVX4X</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1385009200766459906?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

arrwheader
04-21-2021, 06:15 PM
Huh why do that?

Popping smoke I suppose.

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staylor26
04-21-2021, 06:23 PM
They do one of these for every position group. Means nothing.

arrwheader
04-21-2021, 06:24 PM
They do one of these for every position group. Means nothing.Ah

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wazu
04-21-2021, 06:35 PM
They do one of these for every position group. Means nothing.

Looking forward to the QB group tweet.

Halfcan
04-21-2021, 07:01 PM
We need 3 fatties in this draft and a badass Edge. The war is won in the trenches.

staylor26
04-21-2021, 07:03 PM
We need 3 fatties in this draft and a badass Edge. The war is won in the trenches.

Didn’t mean to downvote, but 3 is probably overkill. We need a T and a G/C.

staylor26
04-21-2021, 07:04 PM
Looking forward to the QB group tweet.

That’s probably the only group they won’t do.

Halfcan
04-21-2021, 07:10 PM
Didn’t mean to downvote, but 3 is probably overkill. We need a T and a G/C.

I agree- but it looks like such a deep draft for fatties. After all the injuries we had last year, I wouldn't complain if we get the Next Gen in the system.

Oz_Chief
04-21-2021, 08:24 PM
I think it would be cool if Reid and Veach could set up a cycle of acquire QB - develop QB - trade QB for draft picks.

I don't know if it would be worth the resources, but it would be cool to see them acquire QBs through the draft or post-draft free agency, keep them for 1-2 years, and turn them into draft picks. Over and over.

Coach
04-21-2021, 08:55 PM
That’s probably the only group they won’t do.

I think they may get one in day 3.

MahomesMagic
04-21-2021, 09:01 PM
I could see Creed Humphrey as a guy they would like.

Jamie
04-21-2021, 10:10 PM
Is IOL really much of a need? I'd rather draft two tackles than a OT and an IOL. We have five guys who have started a significant number of games at IOL, plus Rankin.

oldman
04-21-2021, 11:02 PM
I feel we're in good shape at G, but we may want to look at a C if we don't think Allegretti is going to develop. I agree we need to take an OT PDQ.

BossChief
04-21-2021, 11:15 PM
Is IOL really much of a need? I'd rather draft two tackles than a OT and an IOL. We have five guys who have started a significant number of games at IOL, plus Rankin.

The only long term answer we have at IOL is Thuney.

Blythe
Long
LDT

All here for 1 year.

Allegreti is signed for 2

I wouldn’t be shocked if we draft 3OL and 2 in the first 4 rounds.

Tribal Warfare
04-21-2021, 11:17 PM
I feel we're in good shape at G, but we may want to look at a C if we don't think Allegretti is going to develop. I agree we need to take an OT PDQ.

Just depends what they think of Niang as a LT, because the Teven Jenkins interest would make a fuckload more sense because Teven's a natural OG/RT

Jamie
04-22-2021, 12:15 AM
The only long term answer we have at IOL is Thuney.

Blythe
Long
LDT

All here for 1 year.

Allegreti is signed for 2

That's true, but I'd still put it relatively low in our hierarchy of needs. Which I see as, in order, OT, Edge, WR, CB & LB (tied), then IOL. Personally I wouldn't take an IOL in the first four rounds unless it's crazy value. I'd rather take two tackles and move the worst of the three (of the two plus Niang) inside.

htismaqe
04-22-2021, 01:16 AM
Just depends what they think of Niang as a LT, because the Teven Jenkins interest would make a fuckload more sense because Teven's a natural OG/RT

Yep.

htismaqe
04-22-2021, 01:17 AM
We need 3 fatties in this draft and a badass Edge. The war is won in the trenches.

Sweet 6-pound, 8-ounce baby Jesus no.

oldman
04-22-2021, 07:03 AM
I know a lot of people are wanting a WR to replace Watkins. But if PMII doesn't have enough time to set up, what's the point? I'm not advocating fatties in round 1, 2, AND 3, but a high pick(s) to protect the franchise is a must.

htismaqe
04-22-2021, 07:37 AM
I know a lot of people are wanting a WR to replace Watkins. But if PMII doesn't have enough time to set up, what's the point? I'm not advocating fatties in round 1, 2, AND 3, but a high pick(s) to protect the franchise is a must.

What if the Chiefs think they already have the guys they need? Why spend high draft picks on guys you know will be nothing but depth?

wazu
04-22-2021, 07:45 AM
What if the Chiefs think they already have the guys they need? Why spend high draft picks on guys you know will be nothing but depth?

If they think that then they are displaying a tragic flaw in their organization. We just lost both our tackles, and both of them were really good to great players. They were also the only thing that worked on that crappy o-line. The Chiefs do NOT have the guys they need. That's why they got into a bidding war for Trent Williams.

htismaqe
04-22-2021, 08:07 AM
If they think that then they are displaying a tragic flaw in their organization. We just lost both our tackles, and both of them were really good to great players. They were also the only thing that worked on that crappy o-line. The Chiefs do NOT have the guys they need. That's why they got into a bidding war for Trent Williams.

They didn't get into a bidding war for Williams that we know of. They made him an offer. We don't have any confirmation that we made multiple offers. We only know that San Francisco upped their offer when he was leaning towards KC.

Andy Reid made it sound like the Williams thing was much more opportunity than necessity. He also said that they had plans to make Niang a left tackle.

There's nothing wrong with that. We, as fans, have zero idea how good Niang can be at that spot and if the Chiefs think he's going to be good, there's absolutely no reason to waste draft resources on a left tackle. Take a right tackle since Remmers and Long are on short-term deals or don't take one at all and plug other holes.

This whole idea that they MUST draft a left tackle is the tragic flaw. There's no need that that is so great you just throw common sense out the window and do whatever it takes to fill it.

oldman
04-22-2021, 08:16 AM
If they think Niang is good at LT, by all means take a RT. But you just made my point when you stated Remmers and Long are on short term deals. Schwartz isn't coming back and Fisher is most likely history, too. The OTs, right and/or left, must be addressed in this draft.

htismaqe
04-22-2021, 08:21 AM
If they think Niang is good at LT, by all means take a RT. But you just made my point when you stated Remmers and Long are on short term deals. Schwartz isn't coming back and Fisher is most likely history, too. The OTs, right and/or left, must be addressed in this draft.

Nope. They're on short-term deals. They can get a RT in free agency or the draft next year and still be fine.

They don't have to do it this year. They don't HAVE to do anything.

O.city
04-22-2021, 08:23 AM
Sure, they don't have to do anything. They dont' have to draft any RB's or WR's or DE's either.

But they need to.

htismaqe
04-22-2021, 08:26 AM
Sure, they don't have to do anything. They dont' have to draft any RB's or WR's or DE's either.

But they need to.

No they don't.

They don't specifically HAVE to address any position, regardless of need. They could go strictly BPA with every pick and be JUST FINE this season for all we know.

Andy said in his presser that they are okay at the left tackle position. I think back-to-back Super Bowl appearances is enough to warrant some trust that he knows what the fuck he is doing.

We simply cannot afford to keep trading away high picks. We've had 2 first round picks in the last 5 years. That's a collective 3 years of salary we've literally given away and it's not sustainable long-term.

O.city
04-22-2021, 08:33 AM
No they don't.

They don't specifically HAVE to address any position, regardless of need. They could go strictly BPA with every pick and be JUST FINE this season for all we know.

Andy said in his presser that they are okay at the left tackle position. I think back-to-back Super Bowl appearances is enough to warrant some trust that he knows what the **** he is doing.

We simply cannot afford to keep trading away high picks. We've had 2 first round picks in the last 5 years. That's a collective 3 years of salary we've literally given away and it's not sustainable long-term.

We took a RB in the first last year. If we wanna talk about value, that's not ideal.

They currently have 1 first round pick on the squad since 2013. I think it's ok.

oldman
04-22-2021, 08:41 AM
Back to back SB appearances does show that Andy does know what the fuck he's doing. But you have to admit your QB running for almost 500 yards behind the line of scrimmage in the 2nd SB doesn't say much for your O-line. Not all of the pressure came from the inept play of the front 3.

wazu
04-22-2021, 08:45 AM
They didn't get into a bidding war for Williams that we know of. They made him an offer. We don't have any confirmation that we made multiple offers. We only know that San Francisco upped their offer when he was leaning towards KC.

Andy Reid made it sound like the Williams thing was much more opportunity than necessity. He also said that they had plans to make Niang a left tackle.

There's nothing wrong with that. We, as fans, have zero idea how good Niang can be at that spot and if the Chiefs think he's going to be good, there's absolutely no reason to waste draft resources on a left tackle. Take a right tackle since Remmers and Long are on short-term deals or don't take one at all and plug other holes.

This whole idea that they MUST draft a left tackle is the tragic flaw. There's no need that that is so great you just throw common sense out the window and do whatever it takes to fill it.

Agree with not throwing common sense out the window. I'm not sure that the Chiefs will actually have any great options available in this draft without mortgaging everything to move up. I generally trust their judgement. But I also believe they have to see what everybody else sees. They need OTs. Badly. If they come away from this draft without one it is going to really suck.

htismaqe
04-22-2021, 09:49 AM
We took a RB in the first last year. If we wanna talk about value, that's not ideal.

They currently have 1 first round pick on the squad since 2013. I think it's ok.

No, it's really not okay.

If they keep trading away first round picks, it's just going to get harder to get marquee players.

htismaqe
04-22-2021, 09:51 AM
Agree with not throwing common sense out the window. I'm not sure that the Chiefs will actually have any great options available in this draft without mortgaging everything to move up. I generally trust their judgement. But I also believe they have to see what everybody else sees. They need OTs. Badly. If they come away from this draft without one it is going to really suck.

No, they don't.

They have Niang and for all we know, he's going to be not only the LT but a good one. He didn't give up a sack at all his last time playing organized football.

And they have Remmers and Long, who was a former pro bowler at RT.

No, it isn't ideal. But they don't badly need tackles. They could use tackles but they don't need them.

I simply do not see it that way. The team needs playmakers all over the field, including the offensive line. None of them are so much more needed than others to justify giving away value. Let the draft come to you, not the other way around.

O.city
04-22-2021, 11:12 AM
No, it's really not okay.

If they keep trading away first round picks, it's just going to get harder to get marquee players.

They aren't getting marquee players in the ass end of the first round anyway.

htismaqe
04-22-2021, 12:11 PM
They aren't getting marquee players in the ass end of the first round anyway.

Chris Jones was a 2nd rounder.

Thornhill, before his injury, was on his way to being a pro bowler. Second rounder.

Halfway through the season, CEH was at or near the top 5 in nearly every significant rushing category. He was the 32nd overall pick.

I call bullshit. That's a blanket statement that doesn't hold true at all.