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Tribal Warfare
04-26-2021, 09:42 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">While my game is played by manipulating angles and understanding where the QB will be in his drop, some get to a spot and react from there. The reason that the numbers in the drills are so “valuable” is because they believe you have to be a “athlete” to react..</p>&mdash; Orlando Brown Jr. (@ZEUS__78) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZEUS__78/status/1100246543171571712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When drafting a OL you’d think because he bends and moves a certain way he’d be successful but without the understanding of your abilities you will get lost in the shuffle. I’m not the best bender but I’ve got long arms. I understand that if a defender goes to dip</p>&mdash; Orlando Brown Jr. (@ZEUS__78) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZEUS__78/status/1100246545998454784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">week many evaluators will write off several OL because of his “lack of athleticism”. I’m here to tell you to pay attention to his film, figure out how he manipulates his blocks based off his tools, and don’t count him out cause he isn’t a Super athlete.</p>&mdash; Orlando Brown Jr. (@ZEUS__78) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZEUS__78/status/1100246548796133376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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htismaqe
04-26-2021, 10:06 AM
Ironically, Brown's analysis suggest that many of the guys I did NOT like at #31 would have been reasonable choices after all.

Had we not traded for Brown, that is.

ROFL

KCUnited
04-26-2021, 10:19 AM
Real time look at Zeus refining his technique

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wazu
04-26-2021, 10:23 AM
That's a pretty damn good case Orlando made for himself. Wouldn't really matter if he didn't go out after that and back it up on the field, but he did. Really excited to have this guy.

Dante84
04-26-2021, 10:33 AM
Prior to the trade, I had made the (incorrect) assumption that his lack of bend and the resulting top-heavy reach would set him up to get dominated on low-man, quick-bending, high-speed edge rushers; especially in a more pass-heavy offense.

That said, after the trade, I dug in a little more and heard him talk about that specific facet of his game. He is keenly aware that he has the long-arm reach, but he also explained that knows how to counter with his balance so that he doesn't get smoked because of it. It has to do with his weight and his frame coupled with his long arms.

So basically, what some might consider a weakness or a shortcoming used as a crutch to make up for lack of athleticism, he is simply exploiting his body's ability to cheat that area of the game. And the stats (sacks/pressures) and pro-bowl appearances seem to back that up.

If that translates to our offense, and he continues to refine his game, we could be looking at a hall-of-fame duo with him and Mahomes for the next 10 years.

TLO
04-26-2021, 10:35 AM
Can we give him a stupid ass nickname like "Silverback"?

How about Gorilla Glue?
Gorilla Joe?
Long Schlong Silvers?
The Great Wall of Brown?

Baby Lee
04-26-2021, 10:36 AM
He strikes me as a guy who spends as much time watching Sumo as other OL do FB and MMA.

htismaqe
04-26-2021, 10:37 AM
Prior to the trade, I had made the (incorrect) assumption that his lack of bend and the resulting top-heavy reach would set him up to get dominated on low-man, quick-bending, high-speed edge rushers; especially in a more pass-heavy offense.

That said, after the trade, I dug in a little more and heard him talk about that specific facet of his game. He is keenly aware that he has the long-arm reach, but he also explained that knows how to counter with his balance so that he doesn't get smoked because of it. It has to do with his weight and his frame coupled with his long arms.

So basically, what some might consider a weakness or a shortcoming used as a crutch to make up for lack of athleticism, he is simply exploiting his body's ability to cheat that area of the game. And the stats (sacks/pressures) and pro-bowl appearances seem to back that up.

If that translates to our offense, and he continues to refine his game, we could be looking at a hall-of-fame duo with him and Mahomes for the next 10 years.

Yep.

We got a guy that is a physical specimen in a certain mold, with all the inherent strengths and weaknesses that come with it.

What we also got, however, appears to be an offensive tackle that approaches the game like a QB. A guy that approaches the game cerebrally and works to refine technique and react to the game as it changes around him.

I'm getting super excited to see him play with Mahomes. Like I said in the other thread, I think this could end up being a pivotal moment in the Andy Reid era.

I'm super, super high on this trade.

Baby Lee
04-26-2021, 10:40 AM
Can we give him a stupid ass nickname like "Silverback"?

How about Gorilla Glue?
Gorilla Joe?
Long Schlong Silvers?
The Great Wall of Brown?

Since his dad was Zeus, . . . ;)

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Fansy the Famous Bard
04-26-2021, 10:41 AM
Can we give him a stupid ass nickname like "Silverback"?

How about Gorilla Glue?
Gorilla Joe?
Long Schlong Silvers?
The Great Wall of Brown?

The Artist

htismaqe
04-26-2021, 10:41 AM
Since his dad was Zeus, maybe we could start the Klumps' 'Heracles!! Heracles!!' chant for him. . . ;)

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loochy
04-26-2021, 10:43 AM
OB is a thinking man. I like that.

MahomesMagic
04-26-2021, 11:00 AM
I remember after the 2018 draft thinking the Ravens killed it.

And I was still too low.

Lamar Jackson
Orlando Brown
Mark Andrews
Hayden Hurst

Chris Meck
04-26-2021, 11:04 AM
I remember after the 2018 draft thinking the Ravens killed it.

And I was still too low.

Lamar Jackson
Orlando Brown
Mark Andrews
Hayden Hurst

They do draft well, don't they?

MahomesMagic
04-26-2021, 11:07 AM
They do draft well, don't they?

3 Pro Bowl players AFTER their 1st pick.

That's insane.

crispystl
04-26-2021, 11:22 AM
The Artist


Sandwich?


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VAChief
04-26-2021, 11:30 AM
Since his dad was Zeus, . . . ;)

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He has a bit of an "Urkel" look to him from the neck up so maybe...

Urkelese!

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Tribal Warfare
04-26-2021, 11:52 AM
Sandwich?


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His nickname shall be Koolaid, because " To The Ship" then " Print'em"

htismaqe
04-26-2021, 12:47 PM
His nickname shall be Koolaid, because " To The Ship" then " Print'em"

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Kman34
04-26-2021, 01:59 PM
Orlando Bag of Donuts Brown...

RunKC
04-26-2021, 02:04 PM
In addition to his long ass arms and huge body composition, Brown is actually very athletic where it matters.

The guy ran a 7.87 3 cone which is phenomenal for a guy his size. For reference, that’s better by a good margin than his ex-teammate Ronnie Stanley.

He’s got length, athleticism and size to anchor. That is REALLY hard to find

Hoover
04-26-2021, 02:08 PM
He reminds me of a young Willie Roaf.

Valiant
04-26-2021, 03:34 PM
He has a bit of an "Urkel" look to him from the neck up so maybe...

Urkelese!

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Does he have a fox tail in that picture?

Baby Lee
04-26-2021, 03:57 PM
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tk13
04-26-2021, 04:01 PM
I remember after the 2018 draft thinking the Ravens killed it.

And I was still too low.

Lamar Jackson
Orlando Brown
Mark Andrews
Hayden Hurst

They are the example to show that draft position isn't everything. Enough teams in this league are so poorly run that if you just draft smart you can pretty much be anywhere in the draft. It seems like they usually make common sense picks on talented guys who slip down the draft.

Tribal Warfare
05-17-2021, 10:18 PM
Updated OP

Hammock Parties
05-17-2021, 10:22 PM
He is going to be an all time great if he stays healthy.

gonefishin53
05-18-2021, 06:02 AM
I think both Brown and Niang are very smart about utilizing the physical abilities they have. Nice bookends.

Dunerdr
05-18-2021, 06:29 AM
FOXY LOVE

Oxford
05-18-2021, 06:45 AM
Can we give him a stupid ass nickname like "Silverback"?

How about Gorilla Glue?
Gorilla Joe?
Long Schlong Silvers?
The Great Wall of Brown?

Hercule Poirot.... "eyes that miss nothing"

BigRedChief
05-18-2021, 08:19 AM
Ironically, Brown's analysis suggest that many of the guys I did NOT like at #31 would have been reasonable choices after all.

Had we not traded for Brown, that is.

ROFLBut........... Would they been able to play at Browns level this year? We only have 2 years left with this original core group. This is the year to win a SB. This is our overall strongest team we have had in the Mahomes era.

BigRedChief
05-18-2021, 08:22 AM
Does he have a fox tail in that picture?When you're that big of a man, you can pull off a fox tail accessory.

htismaqe
05-18-2021, 09:21 AM
But........... Would they been able to play at Browns level this year? We only have 2 years left with this original core group. This is the year to win a SB. This is our overall strongest team we have had in the Mahomes era.

Yeah probably not.

I was just commenting that Brown wasn't nearly as critical of the "rookie" approach as I was, which I found ironic because I'm over the moon about the trade.

BWillie
05-18-2021, 09:22 AM
Olineman are the best athletes? Hahahhah yeah right.

Tribal Warfare
05-27-2021, 05:46 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs Tackle Orlando Brown says when the pads come on and the lights come on, he thinks the offensive line could be the most physical in the NFL. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a></p>&mdash; Rob Collins (@RCFOX4KC) <a href="https://twitter.com/RCFOX4KC/status/1397981446875369473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

JohnnyHammersticks
05-27-2021, 06:42 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs Tackle Orlando Brown says when the pads come on and the lights come on, he thinks the offensive line could be the most physical in the NFL. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a></p>&mdash; Rob Collins (@RCFOX4KC) <a href="https://twitter.com/RCFOX4KC/status/1397981446875369473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Tribal Warfare
05-27-2021, 09:52 PM
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DaneMcCloud
05-27-2021, 11:01 PM
Orlando Brown has a bright future in broadcasting

kccrow
05-27-2021, 11:38 PM
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I still want to make babies with that chick. Fuck yeah!

Sorry, to whoever's sister or daughter that may be. :)

Shaid
05-27-2021, 11:55 PM
I still want to make babies with that chick. Fuck yeah!

Sorry, to whoever's sister or daughter that may be. :)

It's the daughter of the lady with the boxing players

Shaid
05-27-2021, 11:59 PM
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JohnnyHammersticks
05-28-2021, 06:27 AM
I still want to make babies with that chick. Fuck yeah!

Sorry, to whoever's sister or daughter that may be. :)

If I said I haven't fantasized about a 3some with those two sisters I may or may not be lying...

Skyy God
05-28-2021, 07:45 AM
If I said I haven't fantasized about a 3some with those two sisters I may or may not be lying...

I’ve had worse.

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Dunerdr
05-28-2021, 08:09 AM
I want Orlando to breed with these fuck you women.

Skyy God
05-28-2021, 08:17 AM
I want Orlando to breed with these **** you women.

Uh, there are sites for that sort of thing.

Dunerdr
05-28-2021, 08:38 AM
Uh, there are sites for that sort of thing.

Not for perverse reasons, just for more future left tackles.

louie aguiar
05-28-2021, 08:52 AM
Interesting he's going to be #57 next year. It will be a little strange seeing an offensive lineman without a number in the sixties or seventies.

Skyy God
05-28-2021, 10:15 AM
Interesting he's going to be #57 next year. It will be a little strange seeing an offensive lineman without a number in the sixties or seventies.

Brian Waters, baby.

Pitt Gorilla
05-28-2021, 12:23 PM
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I love this dude. Period.

Skyy God
05-28-2021, 01:18 PM
I love this dude. Period.

Gonna be a helluva leader for the rookies on the rest of the line.

Another tone setting acquisition by Veachy.

Skyy God
05-28-2021, 01:19 PM
Not for perverse reasons, just for more future left tackles.

Not to get all Jimmy the Greek on you, but I’d go with a volleyball player, personally.