Suggested Post-Draft Free Agents & Trade Ideas?

[Couch-Potato]

What say you CP? What are the best available FA acquisitions and trade scenarios for the Chiefs post-draft?


Shwartz or Fisher, to compete with Niang for RT?

Breeland, Earl Thomas or Sherman at DB?

Melvin Ingram as dedicated Pass Rusher?

Larry Fitzgerald or Goldan Tate as WR #2?

Pull off the big trade for Julio!?

[Molitoth]

How much money do you think there is?

[POND_OF_RED]

I’m going to relax and enjoy the summer and realize no matter what idea I have Veach is 26 steps ahead of all of us and onto better ideas. I’m just ready for the season now. There isn’t a better roster in the NFL so I’m not too desperate for any other moves. I don’t think we’ll do much outside of taking flyers from released players during camp cutdowns.

[MahomesMagic]

It seems like we have a huge hole at WR #2.

I think Mecole, Drob, and Powell will get some play but that's the most obvious question mark.

I also would like another vet pass rusher/ ring chaser.

[smithandrew051]

Sign Breeland.

Sign vet pass rusher (probably Ingram). We’ll need to hope that Jones, Reed, Clark, Wharton, Danna, and Taco are enough. Clark needs to have a good year. We need one of the young guys to surprise us.

There really isn’t a true WR 2 available. I think we either roll with what we have or make a trade. No idea who we would trade for.

[ForeverIowan]

No way on Earl Thomas. Bring in high character players only at this point please.

Would love to see Schwartz or Fish back but I just don't think their health will allow it this year.

I assume you meant pull off the trade for Julio not JuJu?

[YayMike]

Gotta be Breeland, Ingram, Tate. Instantly fills 3 holes short term until next years draft where the fucking Wizard of rosters fills these holes

[Couch-Potato]

No way on Earl Thomas. Bring in high character players only at this point please.

Would love to see Schwartz or Fish back but I just don't think their health will allow it this year.

I assume you meant pull off the trade for Julio not JuJu?

Correct, Julio, sorry.

[TLO]

I’m going to relax and enjoy the summer and realize no matter what idea I have Veach is 26 steps ahead of all of us and onto better ideas. I’m just ready for the season now. There isn’t a better roster in the NFL so I’m not too desperate for any other moves. I don’t think we’ll do much outside of taking flyers from released players during camp cutdowns.

Yep. Can't wait for training camp.

[Couch-Potato]

Gotta be Breeland, Ingram, Tate. Instantly fills 3 holes short term until next years draft where the ****ing Wizard of rosters fills these holes

That would be fantastic!

[kysirsoze]

I’m going to relax and enjoy the summer and realize no matter what idea I have Veach is 26 steps ahead of all of us and onto better ideas. I’m just ready for the season now. There isn’t a better roster in the NFL so I’m not too desperate for any other moves. I don’t think we’ll do much outside of taking flyers from released players during camp cutdowns.

Pretty much how I feel. Still holding out a little hope for a Julio trade, but whatever happens I'm happy.

[tredadda]

Breeland and Ingram. The fact that both have yet to sign has to be an indicator of their value to the rest of the league. They should both be relatively affordable and Breeland knows the defense.

I don't think WR is as big of need anymore as Mahomes will have more time to throw. This will allow more opportunities for our receivers to get open. Not against bringing in additional WR help, just don't see it as something we need to dedicate many resources to.

[CupidStunt]

The WR situation and our offense as a whole now reminds me of the Packers. Everyone wants to shit on their WRs after Adams, and cry that Rodgers needs more help, but they built an OL so that Rodgers sits back there all day and throws to the same guy over and over. And it works. And they don't have the best TE in the world either.

I think we'll be much more focused on a DE and maybe corner depth. I think they believe we can get a lot out of Hardman, Powell, DRob and Pringle with 15 having tons of time, an improved running game and, of course, Hill and Kelce drawing all the attention.

[Kiimo]

A big fat NO on Julio. There will be guys on the cheap that can come in after cuts.

[Dunerdr]

I think breeland and maybe Ingram. But kind of doubtful on Ingram now. Taco, tim ward and the new guy just may be what they roll with.

They made it clear the were ready to move on from Okafor after camp with taco.

[oldman]

I just don't see us bringing in another big name FA. I think we're bumping the cap right now if you count the money needed to sign our draft picks. I wouldn't be opposed to bringing back Breeland if he'd go for the $3M range. As far as WR, either dump some of the trash at the bottom of the roster or roll with what we have.

[Skyy God]

What’s our cap space?

[oldman]

This says $9.89M, but I don't know if that counts the money needed to sign the drat picks or not. The last I read was they estimated $7M for that, however that was before the Brown trade. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/cap/

[Chief Roundup]

What say you CP? What are the best available FA acquisitions and trade scenarios for the Chiefs post-draft?


Shwartz or Fisher, to compete with Niang for RT?

Breeland, Earl Thomas or Sherman at DB?

Melvin Ingram as dedicated Pass Rusher?

Larry Fitzgerald or Goldan Tate as WR #2?

Pull off the big trade for Julio!?

Fisher was not very good at RT, although it was his rookie year. I would rather have Schwartz on a one year deal. So :shrug:
Fuck no to Earl Thomas. Sherman is a Cover 3 zone type CB and we don't run that scheme.
Fuck no to Julio and his recent injury stuff and his $15.3 Million guaranteed. I would love the idea of having Fitzgerald just not sure how much he has left in the tank.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

We’re not signing anymore WRs. Chiefs already said Powell will be Sammys replacement

[Skyy God]

This says $9.89M, but I don't know if that counts the money needed to sign the drat picks or not. The last I read was they estimated $7M for that, however that was before the Brown trade. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/cap/

Assuming it counts draft picks, we have room for Breland and that’s about it.

[chiefforlife]

There is still the Tyran extension that needs to get done and that will free up more cap space if they chose to use it on a FA or two.

[YontsRBake]

Still think Dede Westbrook is the best scheme fit of the FA WRs.

[Chief Northman]

Cut Wylie.

Zero dead money and Chiefs create $2.133 million in space.

Cya

[O.city]

Wonder if a team that drafted a wr and has one they may move on from would be interested in a trade?

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

I forgot the date but there is a day in May where you can sign players and they don’t count against your comp picks. I bet Veach is waiting for that

[penchief]

It seems like we have a huge hole at WR #2.

I think Mecole, Drob, and Powell will get some play but that's the most obvious question mark.

I also would like another vet pass rusher/ ring chaser.

Passing game will improve based solely on the new OL. Better pass protection and a better running game will combine to make the passing game a lot easier to execute and expand upon.

[mkp785]

Yep. Can't wait for training camp.

The Offensive lines battles will be something. Aside from OBJ and Thuney, no one has their spot guaranteed. Amazing how Veach took that unit from one of the worst in the league to (on paper) a top 4 group in the NFL.

[Chief Northman]

I forgot the date but there is a day in May where you can sign players and they don’t count against your comp picks. I bet Veach is waiting for that

As of tomorrow I believe

[oldman]

I forgot the date but there is a day in May where you can sign players and they don’t count against your comp picks. I bet Veach is waiting for that

What comp picks do you think we'll get? Reiter and Breeland aren't signed and Sammy's 1 year deal isn't a big splash. No one is breaking down the door to sign either Fisher or Schwartz. Unless something crazy happens, I think the comp picks ship has sailed for 2022.

[Skyy God]

What comp picks do you think we'll get? Reiter and Breeland aren't signed and Sammy's 1 year deal isn't a big splash. No one is breaking down the door to sign either Fisher or Schwartz. Unless something crazy happens, I think the comp picks ship has sailed for 2022.

Especially given the Thuney signing.

For better or worse, Bart doesn’t seem to be overly concerned about comp picks.

[ForeverIowan]

Cut Wylie.

Zero dead money and Chiefs create $2.133 million in space.

Cya

Yep he's gone and that is valuable cap space.

[Chief Roundup]

What comp picks do you think we'll get? Reiter and Breeland aren't signed and Sammy's 1 year deal isn't a big splash. No one is breaking down the door to sign either Fisher or Schwartz. Unless something crazy happens, I think the comp picks ship has sailed for 2022.

Don't believe players that are cut and then signed by another team count. I believe they have to complete their contract and enter FA to count towards the comp pick formula.

[chiefforlife]

Ok, heres one...

Bears want to move Anthony Miller WR. Thought of highly coming out in the draft. Bears also need help on the O line and seem to like Alegretti (local kid).

Chiefs offer Alegretti and late round pick to Bears for Miller?

Could work for both teams.

[ForeverIowan]

Ok, heres one...

Bears want to move Anthony Miller WR. Thought of highly coming out in the draft. Bears also need help on the O line and seem to like Alegretti (local kid).

Chiefs offer Alegretti and late round pick to Bears for Miller?

Could work for both teams.

Id be really surprised if some kind of addition isn't made at wide receiver. Wether that be a blockbuster trade for Julio or sign a Dede Westbrook or Golden Tate. A Tyreek injury and that wide receiver room is pretty darn bare.

[RunKC]

Casey Heyward is a FA and 31. Nice option for us if Breeland doesn’t work out

[staylor26]

Especially given the Thuney signing.

For better or worse, Bart doesn’t seem to be overly concerned about comp picks.

We had a 4th and 5th round comp pick this year. He isn’t “overly” concerned about it, nor should he be. You don’t pass up opportunities to get better for comp picks. You get them when you can and you work around the rules to try if possible, but other than that, they shouldn’t stop you from adding talent.

[Coochie liquor]

Still think Dede Westbrook is the best scheme fit of the FA WRs.

I’m also hoping we could bring him in.

[FloridaMan88]

Passing game will improve based solely on the new OL. Better pass protection and a better running game will combine to make the passing game a lot easier to execute and expand upon.

That seems like a major projection to assume that better offensive line play will make Hardman/Robinson/Pringle into more consistent WR’s.

[scho63]

Some of you just can't let Fisher and Schwartz go. That ship has sailed.

[oldman]

Ok, heres one...

Bears want to move Anthony Miller WR. Thought of highly coming out in the draft. Bears also need help on the O line and seem to like Alegretti (local kid).

Chiefs offer Alegretti and late round pick to Bears for Miller?

Could work for both teams.

Until 2, possibly 3 of the following prove themselves, Allegretti isn't going anywhere - LDT, Long, Niang, Smith, Blythe, Humphrey. Who knows what kind of shape LDT is in, how long will Long last, Niang is unproven, Blythe is a 1 year tryout, and Smith and Humphrey haven't even tasted KC BBQ.

[Couch-Potato]

OverTheCap.com reporting $9m in avail Cap Space? Interesting.

What's the estimate on how much Cap Space a Mathieu extension would win us? Who is currently on the team that might be cut post-draft? What's the most Cap Space we can obtain?

Orlando Brown is playing on his current contract this season, and can be franchised at around $16m the next year? Correct? Also, If Frank Clark doesn't produce this year, is he a potential cut after next season along with Hitchens?

...Plenty of room to work with actually. Presents some interesting options for a team with very few holes.

[Skyy God]

Honey Badger has a $14.5M salary this year.

Bert could easily clear $10M with an extension.

That’s a WR, DE, and CB when combined with the existing space.

[Couch-Potato]

^Based on the above scratch math, it seems to me we could indeed squeeze Julio Jones $15m contract in if we restructured Mathieu. People forget we were trying to pay Trent Williams $20m annually and were in on JuJu!

Next year Julio's contract goes down to $11m and say Hitchens comes off our books, we franchise tag Orlando, and we're still good.

A Frank Clark cut is probably not available until 2023 due to his dead money, but we wouldn't need to cut him to make it work and maybe he restructures as well by then.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Vreeland, Ingram, and Tate and that's a wrap. 15-2 Superbowl champs

[Couch-Potato]

I'm on the Julio Trade Bandwagon now!!! lol

We'd be unstoppable with this OL and the Best Weapons in the League, not to mention the future GOAT QB!

Jarran Reed should open up the pass rush for us this year, add Breeland at CB + Julio and we're un****ing-stoppable!

1,000 posts?

[Rainbarrel]

Too many mites, not enough spread wings in sunshine time. Go play with Rodgers Julio.

[In58men]

With the deadline tomorrow to exercise 5th year options for 2018 1st rounders, those who have not yet had a reported decision on theirs:

DAL Leighton Vander Esch
TEN Rashaan Evans
NE Isaiah Wynn
ATL Hayden Hurst
SEA Rashaad Penny
PIT Terrell Edmunds
JAX Taven Bryan
NE Sony Michel

[Chief Roundup]

Ok, heres one...

Bears want to move Anthony Miller WR. Thought of highly coming out in the draft. Bears also need help on the O line and seem to like Alegretti (local kid).

Chiefs offer Alegretti and late round pick to Bears for Miller?

Could work for both teams.

No, we need to keep Allegretti. He played really well at LG this year. We have a bunch of people on one year contracts. He can fill any of the IOL positions.

[Mecca]

No, we need to keep Allegretti. He played really well at LG this year. We have a bunch of people on one year contracts. He can fill any of the IOL positions.

He's going to struggle to make it, there's only so many spots.

[Chris Meck]

also, gentlemen, let us not forget:

Antonio Callaway, who IF he's got his life straightened out, is a real and legitimate game-breaking NFL talent. The fact that we've not overspent in FA or taken a guy early in the draft tells me that Veach and Reid might really like this player that they stashed away on the PS last season.

Here's what Matt Miller had to say about him in 2018 prior to the draft:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2769259-antonio-callaway-nfl-draft-2018-scouting-report-for-cleveland-browns-pick

"based on talent alone, Calloway would be a top 3 receiver in this draft".

Sorry, I don't know how to embed (okay, boomer)

he's 5'11, 200 lbs. and 24 years old.

I'm just saying.

I don't expect a big splash WR signing. Some bargain shopping perhaps.

[Chris Meck]

He's going to struggle to make it, there's only so many spots.

I would think his versatility would keep him on.

He can play any interior position.

[Couch-Potato]

also, gentlemen, let us not forget:

Antonio Callaway, who IF he's got his life straightened out, is a real and legitimate game-breaking NFL talent. The fact that we've not overspent in FA or taken a guy early in the draft tells me that Veach and Reid might really like this player that they stashed away on the PS last season.

Here's what Matt Miller had to say about him in 2018 prior to the draft:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2769259-antonio-callaway-nfl-draft-2018-scouting-report-for-cleveland-browns-pick

"based on talent alone, Calloway would be a top 3 receiver in this draft".

Sorry, I don't know how to embed (okay, boomer)

he's 5'11, 200 lbs. and 24 years old.

I'm just saying.

I don't expect a big splash WR signing. Some bargain shopping perhaps.

I'm out of touch, what happened with him the last couple seasons?

[Dunerdr]

Some of you just can't let Fisher and Schwartz go. That ship has sailed.

Preach it!

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

That seems like a major projection to assume that better offensive line play will make Hardman/Robinson/Pringle into more consistent WR’s.

It's a pretty easy concept... Teams can't put 6 in the box and drop 7 or 8 into coverage, or they have limited pass rush. Look at any great quarterback, and their 2 or 3's become big "names" even though they were average elsewhere. Heck, Mahomes as a rookie made Albert Wilson look all-pro in his one game.

[Chris Meck]

I'm out of touch, what happened with him the last couple seasons?

multiple drug violations.

[Chris Meck]

It's a pretty easy concept... Teams can't put 6 in the box and drop 7 or 8 into coverage, or they have limited pass rush. Look at any great quarterback, and their 2 or 3's become big "names" even though they were average elsewhere. Heck, Mahomes as a rookie made Albert Lewis look all-pro in his one game.

Albert Lewis was awesome!

But he didn't play with Mahomes.

[flinchfree]

Ok, heres one...

Bears want to move Anthony Miller WR. Thought of highly coming out in the draft. Bears also need help on the O line and seem to like Alegretti (local kid).

Chiefs offer Alegretti and late round pick to Bears for Miller?

Could work for both teams.

Hmmm, I feel like I've heard that somewhere before..:spock::evil:

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Albert Lewis was awesome!

But he didn't play with Mahomes.

LMAO... Albert WILSON... I will edit...

[Mecca]

I would think his versatility would keep him on.

He can play any interior position.

But so can Blythe, there really isn't a massive need to have 4 guys that can play center.

[smithandrew051]

Here’s what I’m guessing for our 53 right now. The only other addition I’m assuming is Breeland. Obviously, we’ll pick others up, so this is just for now. Did I miss anyone?

Typed on my phone, so I’m sure there’s a spelling error somewhere.

Offense (26):

QB: Mahomes, Henne (2)
RB: CEH, Williams, McKinnon, Thompson, Burton (5)
TE: Kelce, Gray, Bell (3)
WR: Hill, Hardman, Robinson, Pringle, Calloway, Powell (6)
OT: Brown, Niang, Remmers (3)
OG: Thuney, LDT, Long, Smith, Allegretti (5)
C: Humphrey, Blythe (2)

Defense (24):
DE: Clark, Charlton, Danna, Kaindoh (4)
DT: Jones, Reed, Nnadi, Wharton, Saunders (5)
LB: Hitchens, Gay, Bolton, Niemann, O’Daniel (5)
CB: Ward, Sneed, Fenton, Baker, Keyes, Breeland? (6)
S: Mathieu, Thornhill, Sorensen, Watts (4)

Specialists (3):
P: Townsend
K: Butker
LS: Winchester

[BossChief]

Cut Wylie.

Zero dead money and Chiefs create $2.133 million in space.

Cya
Veach will trade him to a team that has an underproducing WR with top end skill.

Watch.
No, we need to keep Allegretti. He played really well at LG this year. We have a bunch of people on one year contracts. He can fill any of the IOL positions.

Allegreti isn’t very good in pass protection and I think would be better on the right side...but has an uphill battle for snaps over there, too.

He and Wylie are the guys I’d bet on getting traded before we end up needing to cut them.

[Chief Roundup]

Veach will trade him to a team that has an underproducing WR with top end skill.

Watch.


Allegreti isn’t very good in pass protection and I think would be better on the right side...but has an uphill battle for snaps over there, too.

He and Wylie are the guys I’d bet on getting traded before we end up needing to cut them.

We don't know what is going to happen at RG. Seeing as we have 2 guys that have been out of the game for a year and one of them was not great before. And they are both only here on one year deals.

[Mecca]

So here's the deal...you actually have 3 guys as Blythe was a better guard than center for the Rams.

That doesn't even take into account that Trey Smith is an option as a young player can pick up guard quickly. Add on Mike Remmers could play guard if needed.

Also Yasir Durants NFL position is guard, there's tons of options here.

[KChiefs1]

Needs left unaddressed during draft?
The Chiefs don’t have a glaring hole on their roster after the draft. Instead, the team has a few areas to address. The biggest is probably signing a veteran pass rusher, such as Melvin Ingram, to be a potential starter opposite of star defensive end Frank Clark on the Chiefs’ defensive line. The Chiefs could also take a flyer on a veteran safety since they have just four players at that position following the draft. Re-signing veteran cornerback Bashaud Breeland, a starter the past two seasons, should also be pursued by Veach to continue solidifying the Chiefs’ secondary.

How has the outlook for the season changed?
After trading for Brown, the mission for Veach was to select prospects who are serviceable at other, less desperate roster needs. The Chiefs find a nice balance in selecting prospects who are both durable and productive and still have upside to grow and develop in the NFL.

The 2021 draft is likely to be remembered most for how the Chiefs finished overhauling their offensive line in acquiring Brown and Humphrey. Both players should help give superstar quarterback Patrick Mahomes greater protection, perhaps the best he has had in his five-year career, this upcoming season. Veach also provided Mahomes with two new skill-position players in Gray and Powell.

With this a draft class, Chiefs could receive valuable production this upcoming season from five prospects in Bolton, Humphrey, Kaindoh, Gray and Powell. If those players quickly realize their potential on the field, the group will be one of the best classes in the Veach era with the Chiefs.

[Chief Roundup]

He's going to struggle to make it, there's only so many spots.

So here's the deal...you actually have 3 guys as Blythe was a better guard than center for the Rams.

That doesn't even take into account that Trey Smith is an option as a young player can pick up guard quickly. Add on Mike Remmers could play guard if needed.

Also Yasir Durants NFL position is guard, there's tons of options here.

Yeah I think Durant is likely the odd man out or at least religated to the PS.

[Chief Roundup]

I am figuring they will carry 9 or maybe 10 OL

Orlando Brown Jr
Joe Thuney
Creed Humphrey
LDT
Remmers

Lucas Niang, is the Swing Tackle the thought of Remmers back at LT is cringy.
Austin Blythe is the first backup at C.
Kyle Long is the first backup at RG.
Nick Allegretti is the first backup at LG.
Trey Smith, Daryl Williams, Prince Tega Wanogho all might make it to the PS.
Andrew Wylie, Martinas Rankin, Yasir Durant, Bryan Witzman might all get cut or traded, we wouldn't get anything really but hey we might be able to get another Charvarius Ward type. :shrug:

Injuries will happen so someone might start the season on PUP or IR.

[scho63]

I wish someone like Kenny Britt at 25 or 26 years old was available in FA.

I dont want a 32 or 33 year old WR

[Dunerdr]

I wish someone like Kenny Britt at 25 or 26 years old was available in FA.

I dont want a 32 or 33 year old WR

Best I can do is Dede Westbrook.

[alpha_omega]

....Shwartz or Fisher....

No. Let’s just move on.

[BossChief]

I am figuring they will carry 9 or maybe 10 OL

Orlando Brown Jr
Joe Thuney
Creed Humphrey
LDT
Remmers

Lucas Niang, is the Swing Tackle the thought of Remmers back at LT is cringy.
Austin Blythe is the first backup at C.
Kyle Long is the first backup at RG.
Nick Allegretti is the first backup at LG.
Trey Smith, Daryl Williams, Prince Tega Wanogho all might make it to the PS.
Andrew Wylie, Martinas Rankin, Yasir Durant, Bryan Witzman might all get cut or traded, we wouldn't get anything really but hey we might be able to get another Charvarius Ward type. :shrug:

Injuries will happen so someone might start the season on PUP or IR.

No way Trey Smith makes it to the PS.

[FloridaMan88]

I wish someone like Kenny Britt at 25 or 26 years old was available in FA.

I dont want a 32 or 33 year old WR

Nothing wrong with adding an older WR on a one year/cap friendly deal as the Chiefs need a veteran WR.

I think it is worth taking a flyer on Alshon Jeffery.

He is a big/physical WR that the Chiefs were trying to sign with JuJu and he’s familiar with the Chiefs offensive system playing for Doug Pederson.

[Chris Meck]

Best I can do is Dede Westbrook.

best I can do is tree-fitty.

[Chief Roundup]

No way Trey Smith makes it to the PS.Heard all that stuff before. He made it almost all the way through the 6th round. If someone wanted him very bad he would not have made it that late in the draft.

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[scho63]

Best I can do is Dede Westbrook.

Nothing wrong with adding an older WR on a one year/cap friendly deal as the Chiefs need a veteran WR.

I think it is worth taking a flyer on Alshon Jeffery.

He is a big/physical WR that the Chiefs were trying to sign with JuJu and he’s familiar with the Chiefs offensive system playing for Doug Pederson.

I worry about them having Sammy Watkins syndrome.

[scho63]

I hope Tommy Townsend 2021 is much better than Tommy Townsend 2020 Superbowl.

[BigChiefFan]

I’d almost take a flyer on WR Laquon Treadwell.

[Wilson8]

I am figuring they will carry 9 or maybe 10 OL
.

2020 NFL CBA makes it important to carry extra OL, so probably Chiefs go with 10 but if they do some OL trading, they might go with 9.

New CBA rule: Starting this season (2020), game-day active rosters, which used to be limited to 46 players per team, can include up to 48 players, provided that at least eight of those 48 are offensive linemen. (If not, the game-day roster size is limited to 47 players.)

If the Chiefs could get some type of player swap for Nick Allegretti and/or Andrew Wylie, they should do it because they are probably odd man out.

The goal would be to have the new/young players start as soon as they are ready. It's very possible that Blythe, Long, and Remmers are the starters though.

OL (10) LT Orlando Brown, LG Joe Thuney, C Creed Humphry/Austin Blythe, RG Trey Smith/Laurent Duvernay-Tardif/Kyle Long, RT Lucas Niang/Mike Remmers. The OL backups would be the four from above that aren't starting plus Nick Allegretti or Andrew Wylie if they aren't traded.

It will be interesting to see if NFL continues the Practice Squad (COVID) rules. Teams were able to keep 16 players on PS and bring up 2 players for games. If PS stays at 16, we will probably try to slip Yasir Durant, Prince Tega Wanogho, and Darryl Williams on it.

[oldman]

I am figuring they will carry 9 or maybe 10 OL

Orlando Brown Jr
Joe Thuney
Creed Humphrey
LDT
Remmers

Lucas Niang, is the Swing Tackle the thought of Remmers back at LT is cringy.
Austin Blythe is the first backup at C.
Kyle Long is the first backup at RG.
Nick Allegretti is the first backup at LG.
Trey Smith, Daryl Williams, Prince Tega Wanogho all might make it to the PS.
Andrew Wylie, Martinas Rankin, Yasir Durant, Bryan Witzman might all get cut or traded, we wouldn't get anything really but hey we might be able to get another Charvarius Ward type. :shrug:

Injuries will happen so someone might start the season on PUP or IR.

I pretty much agree wiith you except they aren't going to sneak Smith onto the PS. Is Remmers that much better than Rankin? I've seen about all I can stand of him at LT.

[CatfishBob2]

With all the work we've done on the OL I'm cool with DW31 as the RB2..... But I don't trust Mckinnon ......I wonder how much it would cost to get an RB off of one of the teams that drafted one, like Cohen off of the Bears or Mcfarland off of the Steelers

[booger]

Assuming KJ Wright is going to be too expensive cap/cash wise another player in that same build is Devondre Campbell who was Damien Wilson’s teammate at U of Minnesota. 6-4 232 33 1/2” arms. That’s a little above average for a DL but at LB that’s rare and well above average. A plus when rushing the passer, shedding blocks playing off the ball and always a plus in pass coverage. He’s just turning 28 before camp starts and a free agent. He has experience in the 4-3 under with the falcons when Dan Quinn drafted him. I wouldn’t want him taking snaps from Gay or Bolton but he could provide depth if he’s wanting to go ring chasing on a one year minimum or limited incentive type deal.

We’ve got a guy in Omari Cobb with the same type build. 6-4 223(probably bigger now) 33 1/2” arm length as well. Now if Cobb has developed and Matt House and the rest of the coaches and like his progress that would be great for the future at LB.
https://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=1018742&DraftYear=2020

Darrius Harris’s arm length btw... 34 1/8”...that’s very good for OT and DE let alone LB. same thing here, if you’re going to walk an off the ball LB and let them rush like NE does with guys like Van Noy and Hightower those are 2 UDFA’s from last year under contract. Not nearly the same players talent wise as the two mentioned from NE I’m just saying it’s something to keep an eye on and hope for some development.
https://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=1027778&DraftYear=2019

Just something I was looking at when I wanted to look at what Tim Ward and Tershawn measurements were because chiefs.com always gives ht and weight that’s way off with udfa’s when they might want to try to stash them on the taxi squad.

Ward 6-5 265 34 1/2” arm length

https://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=1029171&DraftYear=2019

Wharton 6-1 280 (listed at 6-4 255 on chiefs.com lmao) 31 1/4” arm length
That’s center only if you’re talking OL and even below average for an interior DL. But he plays his ass of and his persuit and taking angles to find the ball is outstanding. He’s all hustle and effort and like an undrafted John Randle has created a role for himself.

Rankins-since we’re all wondering who can be a backup at LT
33 3/4” arm length which is about average to even maybe a little less than Reid would prefer. Could be one of the reasons he struggles outside in the past in Houston.

Prince Winnebago dude
33 1/2” arm length

https://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=1002556&DraftYear=2020

Same thing with him. Like Rankin he would probably be better at G in KC’s O.

Doesn’t mean he can’t compete and even win the job of 2nd string LT.
Just something to look at with some of these guys and where they want to play them

But yeah I know the names mentioned with FA DE in Ingram Kerrigan and when he’s healthy Vernon. I agree with those just like KJ Wright and Campbell at LB

[booger]

also, gentlemen, let us not forget:

Antonio Callaway, who IF he's got his life straightened out, is a real and legitimate game-breaking NFL talent. The fact that we've not overspent in FA or taken a guy early in the draft tells me that Veach and Reid might really like this player that they stashed away on the PS last season.

Here's what Matt Miller had to say about him in 2018 prior to the draft:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2769259-antonio-callaway-nfl-draft-2018-scouting-report-for-cleveland-browns-pick

"based on talent alone, Calloway would be a top 3 receiver in this draft".

Sorry, I don't know how to embed (okay, boomer)

he's 5'11, 200 lbs. and 24 years old.

I'm just saying.

I don't expect a big splash WR signing. Some bargain shopping perhaps.

To a lesser level of talent Chad Williams and Tajae Sharpe as well. Calloway has the most explosiveness but it’s nice to have 3 guys with that game experience at the pro level rather than just udfa bodies. It should make that position more competitive this offseason and camp

[JakeF]

A Passrusher opposite of Clark.

The ability to rush 4 and drop 7 and still get the QB is huge in the NFL.

[MahomesMagic]

Give me a another pass rusher and trade for Julio Jones.

[Dunerdr]

I’d almost take a flyer on WR Laquon Treadwell.

What a disappointing career he has had.

[Chief Roundup]

I pretty much agree wiith you except they aren't going to sneak Smith onto the PS. Is Remmers that much better than Rankin? I've seen about all I can stand of him at LT.Rankin even with our OL destroyed by injury didn't get the opportunities that the rest got. Dude cannot stay healthy or get in the field when we are at the 3rd, 4th guy deep at several positions. He must be pretty bad.

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[Why Not?]

Heard all that stuff before. He made it almost all the way through the 6th round. If someone wanted him very bad he would not have made it that late in the draft.

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That’s not entirely true. It’s not like he’s getting put on the PS next week. That would occur at some point towards the end of camp. If he had a pretty good camp and gave teams more additional time to see the blood clots aren’t an issue anymore, he almost certainly would get taken from the PS.

[O.city]

Would really think Houston as the SDE woudl be pretty ideal. Doubt it happens though.

[Chris Meck]

Smith is a huge, talented, and very experienced offensive guard. He's not going to the practice squad, he's not a typical late round project.

This guy's going to be ready to play, and to compete for a starting position. Does he beat out Long or LDT? Maybe, maybe not. Probably not to start the season as I can't see rolling with two rookies, but he won't be buried on the depth chart.

[RunKC]

Melvin Ingram. That’s priority numero uno.

Then Breeland or Heyward

[tatorhog]

Smith is a huge, talented, and very experienced offensive guard. He's not going to the practice squad, he's not a typical late round project.

This guy's going to be ready to play, and to compete for a starting position. Does he beat out Long or LDT? Maybe, maybe not. Probably not to start the season as I can't see rolling with two rookies, but he won't be buried on the depth chart.

I'm kind of to the point that I would be surprised if Long makes the team. He's talented, but if he's actually competing for a position I don't know if he can do it at this point in his career as a guard. LDT may be the default starter at RG, but I could see Smith easily taking it too.

I don't think he could beat either of those guys, and honestly Remmers is the guy he probably has to beat to even make the team.

[Chris Meck]

I'm kind of to the point that I would be surprised if Long makes the team. He's talented, but if he's actually competing for a position I don't know if he can do it at this point in his career as a guard. LDT may be the default starter at RG, but I could see Smith easily taking it too.

I don't think he could beat either of those guys, and honestly Remmers is the guy he probably has to beat to even make the team.

If Long is actually 100%, he's a pro bowl level player, very smart, and very experienced.

It IS possible that he takes Remmers spot as super-sub. That's possible. If so, that's a big upgrade.

I think it's likely he takes the starting RG spot. I don't see rolling with two rookies day one, but I expect Smith to be there sooner than later.

Honestly, LDT is kind of odd man out; all the rest of the players are now in a different mold.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

I would be very surprised if we did anything at WR or RB other than a ring chaser like Bell last year. We are not signing Julio Jones with that massive contract. There's a slim chance he gets cut after the June deadline to save the Falcons approx. 15 million in space, then maybe on a skinny deal. We are fine at RB as well with this no O-line, but again, someone cheap could always be added. I agree with others on here Breeland and Ingram if they like the price were offering are probably Veach's current priorities.

[tatorhog]

If Long is actually 100%, he's a pro bowl level player, very smart, and very experienced.

It IS possible that he takes Remmers spot as super-sub. That's possible. If so, that's a big upgrade.

I think it's likely he takes the starting RG spot. I don't see rolling with two rookies day one, but I expect Smith to be there sooner than later.

Honestly, LDT is kind of odd man out; all the rest of the players are now in a different mold.

I agree, if he's 100%. I'm assuming there isn't as much tread on the tires, even after getting some time away from the game. But I would love to be wrong (which, I am quite often, so this bodes well).

I just assume LDT is the starter. Reid seems to love continuity, at least that's been my impression and why I figure its his job to lose at this point. And I think Smith is a beast. Of course, this offseason sure didn't have the same look and feel either, and the type of linemen coming in haven't really been in the mold of what I thought Reid typically wanted. So who knows.

At the end of the day, this appears to be a pretty good problem to have. Which decent player do you have to cut?

[oldman]

I'm OK with going with what we have at RB until we see what we have with Williams coming back. If he doesn't produce, buh-bye. The same goes for both LDT and Long. All I can say is I NEVER want to see Remmers at LT again. I don't see us spending a lot of cash on someone like Jones as a WR. There's a couple already on the expanded roster I'd like to see.
I looked at the latest cap figures and it looks like we have about $9.8M today. The latest number I've seen to sign our draft picks is about $5M, so I'd bring Breeland back at the $3M he made last year. I know Veach can always play with contracts, especially Mathieu's, but let's not go to the brink again until we see what holes we really do have.

[Chris Meck]

I'm OK with going with what we have at RB until we see what we have with Williams coming back. If he doesn't produce, buh-bye. The same goes for both LDT and Long. All I can say is I NEVER want to see Remmers at LT again. I don't see us spending a lot of cash on someone like Jones as a WR. There's a couple already on the expanded roster I'd like to see.
I looked at the latest cap figures and it looks like we have about $9.8M today. The latest number I've seen to sign our draft picks is about $5M, so I'd bring Breeland back at the $3M he made last year. I know Veach can always play with contracts, especially Mathieu's, but let's not go to the brink again until we see what holes we really do have.

Thuney would be LT2 I would guess, as they went so far as to say they could play him there before they got OBJ.

So we'd have to be down to LT3 to see a possibility of Remmers there, and even then I'm not sure we would.

[duncan_idaho]

Step 1: Extend Tyrann Mathieu and free up some more 2021 cap room

Step 2: Sign a veteran DE. I don't care if it's Melvin Ingram or Justin Houston or Ryan Kerrigan. Add a vet to the mix to start opposite Clark.


Step 3: Re-sign Bashad Breeland. It's the best fit for him and for the team.

Step 4: Sign a veteran WR. I really like Dede Westbook and think he could give them some juice at WR2, if he's recovered. His knee injury was pretty devastating... but he's a nice fit for this offense if he's back to what he was.

No thanks on Larry Fitzgerald, who is cooked, but Tate would be interesting.

[O.city]

Step 1: Extend Tyrann Mathieu and free up some more 2021 cap room

Step 2: Sign a veteran DE. I don't care if it's Melvin Ingram or Justin Houston or Ryan Kerrigan. Add a vet to the mix to start opposite Clark.


Step 3: Re-sign Bashad Breeland. It's the best fit for him and for the team.

Step 4: Sign a veteran WR. I really like Dede Westbook and think he could give them some juice at WR2, if he's recovered. His knee injury was pretty devastating... but he's a nice fit for this offense if he's back to what he was.

No thanks on Larry Fitzgerald, who is cooked, but Tate would be interesting.

I wouldn't be opposed to Tate, but I think I'd go with someone like Westbrook and roll with what they've got at WR.

I would love Houston at DE opposite Clark. He seems like an ideal DE in this scheme. I would guess that bridge is burned.

[oldman]

Thuney would be LT2 I would guess, as they went so far as to say they could play him there before they got OBJ.

So we'd have to be down to LT3 to see a possibility of Remmers there, and even then I'm not sure we would.

I agree except I hope we don't have to worry about that. However, that scenario pretty much locks Allegretti in as LG2/C2 or 3. Like I said earlier, Allegretti isn't going anywhere soon. Even if Smith turns out great, it's different footwork from RG to LG. An experienced pro can handle that, but a rookie --that's just way too much to ask today.

[Dunerdr]

I agree, if he's 100%. I'm assuming there isn't as much tread on the tires, even after getting some time away from the game. But I would love to be wrong (which, I am quite often, so this bodes well).

I just assume LDT is the starter. Reid seems to love continuity, at least that's been my impression and why I figure its his job to lose at this point. And I think Smith is a beast. Of course, this offseason sure didn't have the same look and feel either, and the type of linemen coming in haven't really been in the mold of what I thought Reid typically wanted. So who knows.

At the end of the day, this appears to be a pretty good problem to have. Which decent player do you have to cut?
Who is left to have continuity with? If your overhauling theres not sense in not letting the better player get their feet wet.

[ForeverIowan]

I would be very surprised if we did anything at WR or RB other than a ring chaser like Bell last year. We are not signing Julio Jones with that massive contract. There's a slim chance he gets cut after the June deadline to save the Falcons approx. 15 million in space, then maybe on a skinny deal. We are fine at RB as well with this no O-line, but again, someone cheap could always be added. I agree with others on here Breeland and Ingram if they like the price were offering are probably Veach's current priorities.


There is 0% chance Julio gets cut. If the Falcons make him available he will be traded. I think people vastly underestimate his value. Top five WR in the league. Future HOFer. Great in the lockeroom. Great in the community. Leader. Everything you want. There will be a bidding war for him.

[saphojunkie]

Step 1: Extend Tyrann Mathieu and free up some more 2021 cap room

Step 2: Sign a veteran DE. I don't care if it's Melvin Ingram or Justin Houston or Ryan Kerrigan. Add a vet to the mix to start opposite Clark.


Step 3: Re-sign Bashad Breeland. It's the best fit for him and for the team.

Step 4: Sign a veteran WR. I really like Dede Westbook and think he could give them some juice at WR2, if he's recovered. His knee injury was pretty devastating... but he's a nice fit for this offense if he's back to what he was.

No thanks on Larry Fitzgerald, who is cooked, but Tate would be interesting.

I mean... just all of this. Including the avatar.

There is 0% chance Julio gets cut. If the Falcons make him available he will be traded. I think people vastly underestimate his value. Top five WR in the league. Future HOFer. Great in the lockeroom. Great in the community. Leader. Everything you want. There will be a bidding war for him.


I want a healthy wide receiver, so... not everything.

[tatorhog]

Who is left to have continuity with? If your overhauling theres not sense in not letting the better player get their feet wet.

LDT would be the "continuity" since he has been a starter under Reid. I'm not advocating for it, I'm just trying to guess how it will shake out.

[ForeverIowan]

I mean... just all of this. Including the avatar.




I want a healthy wide receiver, so... not everything.

Id be okay taking a "gamble" on a guy that has EARNED his stripes. He is a future 1st ballot HOFer for a reason. Entering next year he is a top five WR in this league.

Golden Tate, Dede Westbrook, that crap isn't going to move the needle whatsoever. If that is what some of you are asking for I guess I'd prefer to just stand pat with Hardman, Robinson, Pringle as your second tier options dont need to waste more money for another JAG receiver.

[tredadda]

There is 0% chance Julio gets cut. If the Falcons make him available he will be traded. I think people vastly underestimate his value. Top five WR in the league. Future HOFer. Great in the lockeroom. Great in the community. Leader. Everything you want. There will be a bidding war for him.

He's also injured a lot, would cost $15M, and would be option #3 at 15M a year. No way I would take him unless the draft compensation was low, ATL ate a huge portion of that salary, or he was willing to renegotiate at a much smaller salary. Don't think all that will happen, so it's a hard pass on him here.

[tredadda]

Id be okay taking a "gamble" on a guy that has EARNED his stripes. He is a future 1st ballot HOFer for a reason. Entering next year he is a top five WR in this league.

Golden Tate, Dede Westbrook, that crap isn't going to move the needle whatsoever. If that is what some of you are asking for I guess I'd prefer to just stand pat with Hardman, Robinson, Pringle as your second tier options dont need to waste more money for another JAG receiver.

Whoever you bring in is option #3. You can still get a good one for cheaper than Julio.

[Dunerdr]

LDT would be the "continuity" since he has been a starter under Reid. I'm not advocating for it, I'm just trying to guess how it will shake out.

Understood. I personally hope were able to replace him. He was not dominate the last time we saw him.

[ForeverIowan]

Whoever you bring in is option #3. You can still get a good one for cheaper than Julio.

I dont think there is much out there in the free agent market that has more to offer than Robinson as a third option. He knows the offense and has built good rapport with Mahomes. Just spend that $ on defense.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

I mean to be fair we went 7-0 without Watkins last year and averaged 33.1 PPG....

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

There is 0% chance Julio gets cut. If the Falcons make him available he will be traded. I think people vastly underestimate his value. Top five WR in the league. Future HOFer. Great in the lockeroom. Great in the community. Leader. Everything you want. There will be a bidding war for him.

I stand corrected, I had read a piece wrong, if they cut him they have an additional $15 million in dead money and they are in cap hell already. However, I don't think anyone will want to pick up that contract, especially the Chiefs... injury concerns or not. I think he may go for a 3rd or 4th round pick at the best if traded, and the Falcons may just restructure his current deal and keep him, if that's all they can get. JMO

[saphojunkie]

I don't think we need the needle moved that much when it comes to the third receiver, or even second receiver. Mecole Hardman HAS to know that this is a make or break year for him. Even Mahomes called him out on twitter when they drafted Powell.

It's so funny how everyone was clamoring for us to take a WR in the second round. I'm like... uh... we just did. How about he steps up and runs good routes, then this isn't an issue?

[tatorhog]

Understood. I personally hope were able to replace him. He was not dominate the last time we saw him.

I've watched probably more clips of Smith than any other of the draftees leading up to the draft. Which still isn't much, but the guy just stands out to me, especially going against all the SEC dlinemen that got drafted. My gut says LDT starts just because Andy knows him and likes him, but I can't help but think Smith is ultimately the guy, and that'll be sooner than later.

[Sassy Squatch]

Leno perhaps?

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Leno perhaps?

Why tf would we get Leno

[Skyy God]

Understood. I personally hope were able to replace him. He was not dominate the last time we saw him.

He was disappoint.

[JohnnyV13]

Cut Wylie.

Zero dead money and Chiefs create $2.133 million in space.

Cya


Might be able to get a 7th for trading him.

[JohnnyV13]

I don't think we need the needle moved that much when it comes to the third receiver, or even second receiver. Mecole Hardman HAS to know that this is a make or break year for him. Even Mahomes called him out on twitter when they drafted Powell.

It's so funny how everyone was clamoring for us to take a WR in the second round. I'm like... uh... we just did. How about he steps up and runs good routes, then this isn't an issue?

People seem to have given up on Hardman. I haven't.

Remember, he was 21 his rookie year so he's now the same age as Tyreek was before his yr 2 breakout.

Hardman also didn't have OTAs and a truncated camp/preseason in 2020 that probably hurt his development. If you watched Kurt Warner's breakdown of the SB, you'll see one play in particular that if Hardman cut upfield he likely would have gotten a TD.

Harman really needs to work on the mental side of route adjustments as well as sharpening his cuts.

[In58men]

Might be able to get a 7th for trading him.

Veach would miraculously get a 5th somehow. Prolly give up our 7th + Wylie.

[Dunerdr]

I've watched probably more clips of Smith than any other of the draftees leading up to the draft. Which still isn't much, but the guy just stands out to me, especially going against all the SEC dlinemen that got drafted. My gut says LDT starts just because Andy knows him and likes him, but I can't help but think Smith is ultimately the guy, and that'll be sooner than later.

That is interesting, i like him a lot as well but he has some stuff that needs cleaned up. I would have assumed Long would get a shot at the rotation because Andy loves vets and his dad is part of that NFL good ol boys club. But id be thrilled if Smith just steam rolled both vets.

[flinchfree]

Was Breeland spooning Reiter on the same set of ski's as the middle fatty jumped the shark?

There's going to be a bunch of veerry good vets getting released over the next couple weeks, we may pick up upgrades at special sticker prices....

[Kiimo]

I don't think we need the needle moved that much when it comes to the third receiver, or even second receiver. Mecole Hardman HAS to know that this is a make or break year for him. Even Mahomes called him out on twitter when they drafted Powell.

It's so funny how everyone was clamoring for us to take a WR in the second round. I'm like... uh... we just did. How about he steps up and runs good routes, then this isn't an issue?



Well Mahomes called him out on Twitter but that's because Powell tweeted himself with a Chiefs jersey on and he had Mecole's number on it. It was more making fun of that then actually saying Mecole has been served notice or something.

[kcbubb]

Okafor over Ingram. Okafor will be much cheaper and is better fit. Ingram is shorter with much shorter arms. Let taco, okafor and danna compete. And bring back breeland too.

[chiefforlife]

Why tf would we get Leno

Because we are still thin at Tackle. Leno would be a solid reserve at LT.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Because we are still thin at Tackle. Leno would be a solid reserve at LT.

We are literally 10 deep at O line. Let me guess the Chiefs are the treasury and we can print money whenever?

[Mecca]

Okafor over Ingram. Okafor will be much cheaper and is better fit. Ingram is shorter with much shorter arms. Let taco, okafor and danna compete. And bring back breeland too.

Okafor is literally hurt all the time.

[Chief Roundup]

Leno perhaps?

Who???

[Mecca]

Because we are still thin at Tackle. Leno would be a solid reserve at LT.

No, no we aren't, we are going to cut/trade guys with staring experience this year.

Brown, Niang and Remmers is a solid 3, in a pinch Thuney, Long and even LDT could slide out to OT. Very few teams have that kind of depth.

[kcbubb]

Okafor is literally hurt all the time.

Okafor cheap is better than Ingram. He’s talented and a fit.

[oldman]

Hardman really needs to work on the mental side of route adjustments as well as sharpening his cuts.

This. It's time for him to step up and work.

[jjchieffan]

I keep seeing people talking that we need to bring back Breeland. I'm not opposed to it. But I don't think that it's necessary. Sneed is a bonafide starter. Ward is probably on the other side, and Fenton on the slot. That's a pretty good set of corners, and don't forget that we have Baker too. He got hurt before he could get established. But with a full off-season and camp, he could take the starting slot from Ward. He was a first round pick and he got cut because of the legal issue that looks like it's behind him now, Add him in the mix, and I just don't see a need for Breeland. I guess that you can never have too many corners though. Especially if we end up facing Rodgers twice per year

[JakeF]

Okafor cheap is better than Ingram. He’s talented and a fit.Okafor never seems healthy even when he suits up.

2020

Kpass 20 Tackles, 1 scks, 3 PD, 0 FF, 2 TFL, 16 gms
Okafor 9 Tackles, 3 scks, 0 PD, 1 FF, 1 TFL 11 gms

If Kpass sucks...

[Couch-Potato]

How about LDT + 2022 2nd Rd Pick = Julio Jones on a slightly restructured deal incentivizing him to stay on the field?

I read ATL needs an OG, we might have x4 starting-caliber guards on the roster currently.

We have $9m in space, moving LDT saves us $2.75m, if Julio's willing to play WR 1A for $11.75m and turn the rest of his $15m Base into incentives...whoo-boy! We'd be set!

[Skyy God]

How about LDT + 2022 2nd Rd Pick = Julio Jones on a slightly restructured deal incentivizing him to stay on the field?

I read ATL needs an OG, we might have x4 starting-caliber guards on the roster currently.

We have $9m in space, moving LDT saves us $2.75m, if Julio's willing to play WR 1A for $11.75m and turn the rest of his $15m Base into incentives...whoo-boy! We'd be set!

You Julio-baters are just the absolute worst.

[Couch-Potato]

You Julio-baters are just the absolute worst.

lol would be fun for sure!

A pass-rusher would also be fantastic, Melvin Ingram maybe?

[Rainbarrel]

Mahomes needs less work, not more. Hand the ball off, run the wildcat. 17-21 games a season is going to take it's toll. Brady doesn't strain...anything. Never has.

[Skyy God]

Mahomes needs less work, not more. Hand the ball off, run the wildcat. 17-21 games a season is going to take it's toll. Brady doesn't strain...anything. Never has.

1) Running produces less expected points than passing.

2) The Wildcat was dead in like 2011.

3) You’re a buttfucking moron.

[Rainbarrel]

Looks like I'm moving down, giggitty.

[Easy 6]

Okafor cheap is better than Ingram. He’s talented and a fit.

Okafor sucks dog nuts, we'd have been much better off finding the money to keep Ogbah... sans him, that leaves Ingram or Kerrigan as the next best vet options

[RealSNR]

Mahomes needs less work, not more. Hand the ball off, run the wildcat. 17-21 games a season is going to take it's toll. Brady doesn't strain...anything. Never has.

Okay. Whose mult are you? I've been wanting to know for awhile. blueballs? Are you blueballs?

[Rainbarrel]

Taysom Hill was a compliment/ necessary to be future. 17 games means stretching players with Hamburger helper.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

It seems like we have a huge hole at WR #2.

I think Mecole, Drob, and Powell will get some play but that's the most obvious question mark.

I also would like another vet pass rusher/ ring chaser.

No, we really don't. The #2 reciever is actually the third or fourth option on this team and has been since Mahomes took over. It's not a big role. A solid "post-up" guy like Powell is just what the doctor ordered.

Mecole is a speedy gadget player and return specialist. He'll never be a great route runner. He's still a solid player overall.

There will be some EDGE guys that get cut. Chiefs have to figure out what they have in guys like Tim Ward first.

[RealSNR]

Taysom Hill was a compliment/ necessary to be future. 17 games means stretching players with Hamburger helper.

What are you saying? Why do you talk like that?

REVEAL THYSELF, MULT!

[Rainbarrel]

Anti-freeze and ball powder unite into a poultice!

[RunKC]

I’d imagine that Ingram is wanting a contract similar to the one Clowney got last year when he signed late. He got almost $13 million

I wouldn’t offer him that. Maybe an $8 million base with $2-3 million in incentives?

[KChiefs1]

Mahomes needs less work, not more. Hand the ball off, run the wildcat.


Faider or Donko fan?

[BossChief]

I’d imagine that Ingram is wanting a contract similar to the one Clowney got last year when he signed late. He got almost $13 million

I wouldn’t offer him that. Maybe an $8 million base with $2-3 million in incentives?

He’s not worth that much.

[smithandrew051]

1) Running produces less expected points than passing.

2) The Wildcat was dead in like 2011.

3) You’re a buttfucking moron.

We don’t need to run more, we just need to be more effective when we do run. We have to be able to punish light fronts. We can’t let teams drop 7 with no consequence.

We still need to primarily be a passing team, because Mahomes/Kelce/Hill. Some effective counterpunching with the run would be nice though.

[Chris Meck]

We don’t need to run more, we just need to be more effective when we do run. We have to be able to punish light fronts. We can’t let teams drop 7 with no consequence.

We still need to primarily be a passing team, because Mahomes/Kelce/Hill. Some effective counterpunching with the run would be nice though.

Yep.

Look, you have to make people pay for not playing you honest. There will be games, particularly early on, where we probably shove it down their throats. That won't mean Andy's changed his stripes, and by the end of the year I'm sure the run/pass balance will still skew heavily towards pass.

But you've got to force defenses to play you straight up. If they want to drop 7 you absolutely steamroll them until they stop doing that.

[Rainbarrel]

Faider or Donko fan?

Knee, ankle, head, toe, individually explained away. Cumulatively effect remains. Less time for concern as for wisdom, when adding a 17 regular season game. This is for all players. Those that dress probably need to take snaps. The back up QB position may evolve.

[Chiefs=Champions]

Smed?

[Couch-Potato]

Dede, Ingram/Okafor, and Breeland seem to be the top targets.

Any additional surprise cuts or under-the-radar trades for a WR, DE, CB out there?

No interest in Richard Sherman here at CP?

[thabear04]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs signed former Colts WR Daurice Fountain, per <a href="https://twitter.com/andysimms?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@andysimms</a>. <a href="https://t.co/XiQvQDp4ac">https://t.co/XiQvQDp4ac</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballChase™️ (@pfootballchase) <a href="https://twitter.com/pfootballchase/status/1394340284222382085?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[mkp785]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs signed former Colts WR Daurice Fountain, per <a href="https://twitter.com/andysimms?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@andysimms</a>. <a href="https://t.co/XiQvQDp4ac">https://t.co/XiQvQDp4ac</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballChase™️ (@pfootballchase) <a href="https://twitter.com/pfootballchase/status/1394340284222382085?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

...to the ship?

Maybe.

[htismaqe]

Don't know much about him in the NFL but he was a standout All-American at UNI and was the MVP of the East-West Shrine Bowl the year he came out.

I looked him up and he wasn't invited to the combine but posted a respectable 4.46 at his pro day. He did put up really good vert and broad jumps - 42.5" and 11'2" respectively. He's 6'2" so he might be a kind of jump ball guy.

[UChieffyBugger]

Fountain was balling with the Colts but then got a season ending injury. That stalled his development and by the time he was ready to play again the Colts had drafted two high end recievers. His traits are great it's just a matter of whether he can learn the playbook and embrace this opportunity.

[Wilson8]

Daurice Fountain had a good senior year at UNI with 13 games, 66 catches for 943 yards and 12 TDs. As htismage writes, he was the MVP of the Shrine Bowl with 61 yards on 3 catches and 2 punt returns for 30 and 10 yards. I think a good signing if he can be healthy.

[ModSocks]

Fountain was balling with the Colts

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[Skyy God]

Camp fodder.

[thabear04]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Raiders released DL David Irving. <a href="https://t.co/C5DSkd5CbV">https://t.co/C5DSkd5CbV</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballChase™️ (@pfootballchase) <a href="https://twitter.com/pfootballchase/status/1395841619975413760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Dunerdr]

BRING HIM HOME VEATCH RIGHT DOESEYS RONG

[RealSNR]

Lol. Pretty much the one and only time Chiefs fans have questioned the wisdom of the coaches and front office in determining the 53 man roster out of training camp/preseason and actually been right.

I mean, now that I look back on it, what the fuck was the team thinking in keeping Nick fucking Williams? Seriously. Pretty sure we booted his ass out the door midway through the year anyway and brought in Kendall Reyes or somebody like that.

Score update-

Chiefs coaches 458
Chiefs fans 1

[Couch-Potato]

So are we just gonna sit around with $9m in cap space? Nah, Veach will cook something up and we'll end up with a sexy addition....but, who? Is there a cut candidate? A low key big-name vet that will end up on the block? WR? Edge? CB? RB?

[Wilson8]

Spotrac.com says we have 89 players on current roster with $8,288,534 of cap space. Overthecap.com also says we have 89 players on current roster with $7,872,709 of cap space. Chiefs usually like to keep a few million for needed roster additions during the season.

There are a few positions that might be improved, but cap space is going to limit what we do unless we redo a contract or two.

I think the Chiefs will go into the preseason with what we have, but Brett will watch other teams rosters and maybe pick up a couple of players with a low cost trade or signing a veteran at a club friendly deal.

Chiefs have -

(18) CB/DB/S - Tyrann Mathieu, Armani Watts, Juan Thornhill, Daniel Sorensen, Rodney Clemons, Zayne Anderson, Devon Key, Will Parks, Charvarius Ward, Rashad Fenton, L’Jarius Sneed, Thakarius Bopete Keyes, Deandre Baker, Mike Hughes, Chris Lammons, Marlon Character, Dicaprio Bootle, and Manny Patterson.

(15) OL - Orlando Brown, Joe Thuney, Austin Blythe, Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, Mike Remmers, Nick Allegretti, Kyle Long, Lucas Niang, Creed Humphry, Trey Smith,
Andrew Wylie, Yasir Durant, Martinas Rankin, Prince Tega Wanogho, and Darryl Williams.

(14) WR - Tyreek Hill, Mecole Hardman, Byron Pringle, Demarcus Robinson, Cornell Powell, Antonio Callaway, Chad Williams, Marcus Kemp, Gehrig Dieter, Jody Fortson, Maurice Ffrench, Daurice Fountain, Chris Finke, and Dalton Schoen.

(14) DL - Frank Clark, Chris Jones, Jurran Reed, Derrick Nnadi, Khalen Saunders, Michael Danna, Tershawn Wharton, Taco Charlton, Joshua Kaindoh, Tim Ward, Austin Edwards, Demone Harris, Tyler Clark, and Malik Herring.

(9) LB - Anthony Hitchens, Dorian O’Daniel, Willie Gay Jr, Ben Niemann, Nick Bolton, Darius Harris, Omari Cobb, Riley Cole, and Emmanuel Smith.

(7) RB/FB - Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Darrel Williams, Darwin Thompson, Jerick McKinnon, Derrick Gore, Elijah McGuire, and Michael Burton.

(5) TE - Travis Kelce, Blake Bell, Noah Gray, Nick Keizer, and Evan Baylis.

(4) QB - Patrick Mahomes, Chad Henne, Shane Buechele, and Anthony Gordon.

(3) ST - Harrison Butker, James Winchester, and Tommy Townsend.

[DaneMcCloud]

So are we just gonna sit around with $9m in cap space? Nah, Veach will cook something up and we'll end up with a sexy addition

The Chiefs do not have $9 million in cap space because they need to set aside $5 million for injuries and so on.

I wouldn't expect anything other than Vet Minimum players at this point.

[Wilson8]

Bashaud Breeland's contract details with the Vikings are now on overthecap.com.

$1,075,000 Base, $1,000,000 Pro Rated Bonus, $925,000 per game roster bonus, $1,075,000 guaranteed, $2,727,944 cap. So actually less that what the Chiefs paid last year at $3M with a $2.5M guaranteed.

Breeland's Viking contract was earlier reported to be a $4M contract.

Bashaud has said several times he wanted to play in KC.

It would seem that KC was ready to move on.

[BossChief]

The Chiefs do not have $9 million in cap space because they need to set aside $5 million for injuries and so on.

I wouldn't expect anything other than Vet Minimum players at this point.

Veach out front of Arrowhead with a duffel bag with 4.5m in it for whoever takes it first. Ingram, Houston or another DE...maybe check in on recovery for Vernon as we get closer to camp.

[mkp785]

So are we just gonna sit around with $9m in cap space? Nah, Veach will cook something up and we'll end up with a sexy addition....but, who? Is there a cut candidate? A low key big-name vet that will end up on the block? WR? Edge? CB? RB?

Laurence Darnell Fitzgerald Jr.

Perfect 2nd WR to play across from Reek.

[BossChief]

Laurence Darnell Fitzgerald Jr.

Perfect 2nd WR to play across from Reek.

2017 called...

[mkp785]

2017 called...

I'll take his 2019 numbers:

75 catches
800 yards
4 TDs

Tell me that's not perfectly fine for some who will be 3rd in the pecking order (maybe 4th with CEH).

Hell, your guy Julio had that last year and you guys wanted to give up draft capital and major money for him.

[Wilson8]

If the Chiefs need a CB after the preseason, the Minnesota Vikings might have one for trade or release.

They signed Patrick Peterson (Cards), Makensie Alexander (Bengals), and Bashaud Breeland (Chiefs).

They already had 25 year old (1st rd), Jeff Gladney, 23 year old (3rd rd) Cameron Dantzler, 23 year old (5th rd) Harrison Hand. All of these guys are on their 2nd year of their rookie contracts.

They also have 25 year old Kris Boyd that the Vikings drafted in 2017 out of Texas. Last year he played 16 games with 5 starts for the Vikings. He is 5-11, 201. Coming out of Texas he ran a 4.45 40.

[BossChief]

I'll take his 2019 numbers:

75 catches
800 yards
4 TDs

Tell me that's not perfectly fine for some who will be 3rd in the pecking order (maybe 4th with CEH).

Hell, your guy Julio had that last year and you guys wanted to give up draft capital and major money for him.

Julio Jones has that in 7 games.

GTFO. Larry Fitz is done.

[Halfcan]

What say you CP? What are the best available FA acquisitions and trade scenarios for the Chiefs post-draft?


Shwartz or Fisher, to compete with Niang for RT?

Breeland, Earl Thomas or Sherman at DB?

Melvin Ingram as dedicated Pass Rusher?

Larry Fitzgerald or Goldan Tate as WR #2?

Pull off the big trade for Julio!?

:hmmm: None of the above will happen.

[Wilson8]

Chiefs sign another OT, Wyatt Miller, 6-5, 320 and 25 years old.

Played at UCF then Jets, Bengals, Cowboys, and Seahawks.

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2021/06/14/kansas-city-chiefs-free-agency-offensive-tackle-wyatt-miller-signed/

[Wilson8]

Not sure what the Practice Squad rules will be for 2021. For Covid, the NFL expanded the roster to 16 and allowed more veterans. I've read that the expanded roster and the ability to play two PS members was popular with teams.

Wyatt Miller may have been signed with possibility of using him on the Practice Squad.

With Kyle Long being out, they may just need another body for practicing and preseason.

[Wilson8]

When you have a position of strength, you keep trying to make it even stronger and better.

Another thought would be the Chiefs keep adding OL and plan on doing a trade of an OL for a DE, CB, or WR.

We currently have 16 OL, Orlando Brown, Joe Thuney, Austin Blythe, Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, Mike Remmers, Nick Allegretti, Kyle Long (currently injured), Lucas Niang, Creed Humphry, Trey Smith, Andrew Wylie, Yasir Durant, Martinas Rankin, Prince Tega Wanogho, Darryl Williams, and Wyatt Miller.

[Dunerdr]

If the Chiefs need a CB after the preseason, the Minnesota Vikings might have one for trade or release.

They signed Patrick Peterson (Cards), Makensie Alexander (Bengals), and Bashaud Breeland (Chiefs).

They already had 25 year old (1st rd), Jeff Gladney, 23 year old (3rd rd) Cameron Dantzler, 23 year old (5th rd) Harrison Hand. All of these guys are on their 2nd year of their rookie contracts.

They also have 25 year old Kris Boyd that the Vikings drafted in 2017 out of Texas. Last year he played 16 games with 5 starts for the Vikings. He is 5-11, 201. Coming out of Texas he ran a 4.45 40.

Isnt Gladney on the commisioners list for assault and battery or something?

[MahomesMagic]

If the Chiefs need a CB after the preseason, the Minnesota Vikings might have one for trade or release.

They signed Patrick Peterson (Cards), Makensie Alexander (Bengals), and Bashaud Breeland (Chiefs).

They already had 25 year old (1st rd), Jeff Gladney, 23 year old (3rd rd) Cameron Dantzler, 23 year old (5th rd) Harrison Hand. All of these guys are on their 2nd year of their rookie contracts.

They also have 25 year old Kris Boyd that the Vikings drafted in 2017 out of Texas. Last year he played 16 games with 5 starts for the Vikings. He is 5-11, 201. Coming out of Texas he ran a 4.45 40.

I'll take Hand. Always liked him for our system.

[Wilson8]

Isnt Gladney on the commisioners list for assault and battery or something?

You are correct -

"[Gladney] now faces up to 2-10 years in prison if convicted after an incident that happened on April 2nd. That’s when a 22-year-old woman, who says she was in a relationship with Gladney, told police they got into an altercation over text messages she was receiving. Gladney is accused of hitting the accuser with closed fists, choking her and dragging her by the hair while driving with her outside his vehicle. She also accuses him of '...pulling (her) by her hair trying to hold her still in order to get the Face ID to work.' The accuser was able to break free and get into a vehicle with unknown passengers. Detectives documented bruising on her head, ears and torso. She also reported scratches on her face and neck and abrasions on her knees."
https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/report-vikings-cornerback-jeff-gladney-charged-felony-domestic-violence

So there is a reason the Vikings are signing so many free agent CBs.

In addition to Patrick Peterson, Mackensie Alexander, and Bashaud Breeland, the Vikings have also signed free agents Tye Smith (Seahawks, Titans) and Parry Nickerson (Jets, Jaguars, and Packers) and UFDA Amari Henderson. (Wake Forest). They also drafted CB Camryn Bynum (Cal) in the 4th (125) round, but they plan to maybe move him to safety.

Even with Jeff Gladney's situation, the Vikings will have a surplus of CBs and someone will be cut or traded.

[Kiimo]

I've said that Face ID was a bad idea from the start

[Wilson8]

I've said that Face ID was a bad idea from the start

Well she didn't share her pass code either, so she really did not want him on her phone.

I wanted Mike Hughes before the Vikings drafted him in 2018. Now we got him. Hope he is a able to stay healthy and is a good pickup for KC.

I wanted Jeff Gladney before the Vikings drafted him in 2020. Instead we drafted L'Jarius Sneed in the 4th.

Always interesting how things work out.

[Wilson8]

I think NFL teams that need offensive linemen will either want to trade with KC or will be picking up our released players.

KC might be watching the Bills to see what they do at DE. With their first two 2021 picks, they drafted Greg Rousseau and Carlos Basham. They drafted A.J. Epenesa in the 2nd round in 2020. They also have Jerry Hughes, Mario Addison, Bryan Cox, Darryl Johnson, and Efe Obada. Bills could save money by cutting Hughes ($6,350,000).