One of the biggest problems with this team

[dlphg9]

The coaching staff has an incredibly annoying obsession with starting not just mediocre, but absolutely terrible veterans. It's on both sides of the ball.

On defense, we have Dan "OhShitThatGuyIsBehindMe" Sorenson and Ben Nieman.

Ben seems to be phasing out with Willie Gay being available. Ben started last night, but only had 15 snaps on D, which is by far his lowest of the season and it seems that Willie Gay got most of those snaps as he was in 25 snaps. Hopefully this becomes the norm and we don't see him anymore.

The biggest fucking gripe and the most bullshit of all the bullshit, Dan. What in the actual fuck is going on in the coaching staffs brain? This lump of dog shit is such an integral part of our absolute dog shit D that he is playing 100% of the snaps? Juan Thornhill supposedly has to earn his playing time, so he got a messily 25 snaps yesterday. Dan was directly responsible for 2 TDs in the first half and didn't have to go to the bench for even 1 fucking play. He's been dog shit all year. I'd honestly rather see Armani Watts out there instead of that worthless piece of shit. Dan leads the world in missed tackles (7) and his buddy Ben is right behind him with (5).

Why won't the D coordinator of the worst defense I've ever witnessed hold Dan accountable?

On a side note, this D is really really bad. Allowing 32.6 PPG and if that holds up it will be the 2nd most PPG allowed since the NFL went to a 16 game schedule. Only the 1981 Baltimore Colts would have allowed more at 33.3 ppg.

Now onto Andy's shitty obsession. DeMarcus "ImRunningBackTowardsYouPatrick" Robinson. He consistently has the 2nd most reps of any of our WR and yet this is his stat line 5 weeks into the season.

245 snaps(70%), 10 Targets, 7 receptions, 80 yards, 1 TD

After being terrible and worthless the first 4 weeks, what does Andy do?

Puts him out there for 76% of our offenses plays.

How in the living hell does a #2 receiver on one of the most pass heavy teams in the league have only 7 catches in 5 games. Take out the Baltimore game and it's even more pathetic.

6 targets, 4 receptions, 34 yards

What in the actual fuck is Andy thinking? Why can't we just call up a practice squad lineman to do what Robinson is doing?

I'm not sure what Dan and DeMarcus have done or are doing, but the blind loyalty to the two most worthless fucks on this team is astounding.

[ModSocks]

Dudes, every damn gripe doesn't need a new thread.

[Red Dawg]

This gripe is really good. All true.

Maybe Andy's time is winding down. Nothing lasts forever.

Maybe a younger coach with new ideas and more energy.

[Rainbarrel]

The offense finally gave the defense a big bite. Of the shit sammy they have to swallow about every week this season. Message received, intended or not.

[dlphg9]

This gripe is really good. All true.

Maybe Andy's time is winding down. Nothing lasts forever.

Maybe a younger coach with new ideas and more energy.

Lost me there. I'll never call for Andy to be fired or retire while Mahomes is here at least.

[Red Dawg]

Lost me there. I'll never call for Andy to be fired or retire while Mahomes is here at least.

Not calling for it but we have a great shot at missing the playoffs and probably will. If that happens again next year then we need a change.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Defenses pick on Sorenson and Niemann. Giving those guys less snaps (hopefully close to 0 eventually) could dramatically improve the D. Have to hope that Gay can be an impact player.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Not calling for it but we have a great shot at missing the playoffs and probably will. If that happens again next year then we need a change.

I don't see this at all. Even with horrible defense, this team should be 4-1 and they've played easily the toughest schedule so far. Not many teams would be better than 2-3 right now vs that schedule. I still expect a pretty solid record in the end.

[JakeF]

Andy has been keeping a bunch of JAGs on the roster, ever since he got here. He either makes friends with them or he just doesn't want to be bother with training new guys. Not sure which, but those roster spots should be used for training new players, who might turn out better than the old ones. Maybe we will hit a few diamonds too.

Maybe we would already have a legit #2 WR if we hadn't kept so many shit Wrs on the roster all this time. After Hill, the rest are pretty much shit. Hardman and Pringle have a little potential, but Andy should have found out for sure about them long ago. Why is that worthless POS shit Dieter still on the fucking Practice Squad? We are paying Mahomes a half a billion dollars, he can get over Dieter being cut.

[JakeF]

Defenses pick on Sorenson and Niemann. Giving those guys less snaps (hopefully close to 0 eventually) could dramatically improve the D. Have to hope that Gay can be an impact player.Buffalo targeted Sorenson wherever he went. It got them 21 points too. Every team will do the same from now on. If that idiot Spags sends Sorenson out there in man coverage again, he should be fired. Sorenson couldn't cover Andy Reid.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

This gripe is really good. All true.

Maybe Andy's time is winding down. Nothing lasts forever.

Maybe a younger coach with new ideas and more energy.


The retardism of CP seems to be growing exponentially

[Megatron96]

Dumb OP.

Dan Sorenson and D. Robinson are not the reason the Chiefs are 2-3. Not saying they're playing well, because largely they aren't. But the 'success' lynchpin of the team doesn't hinge on those two guys.ROFLROFLROFL

It hangs on the offense's inability to take care of the ball.

KC has turned the ball over 11 times, tied with JAC as the 31st/32nd worst teams in the league in total T/Os. Kc's ratio is better, hence the 31st ranking.

SFO is 30th, with just over half as many (7).

Mahomes is responsible for over half of those T/Os. At least statistically.

As others have already noted several times, if Mahomes doesn't throw half those picks, KC probably stands at 4-1 or at least 3-2 right now.

But no team in the NFL will ever win more games than they lose if they give the ball away 2.2+ times/game for a season.

Stop giving the ball away offense, and KC wins more games, and it almost won't matter how the defense plays (until the playoffs). Simple.

Oh, and Andy Reid doesn't throw the ball in games. Neither does Spags.

[Mecca]

The retardism of CP seems to be growing exponentially

Don't be mad your boy Sorensen is liquid shit.

Anyway Robinson is getting snaps because Mahomes hates Hardman, look at that body language.

[dlphg9]

Dumb OP.

Dan Sorenson and D. Robinson are not the reason the Chiefs are 2-3. Not saying they're playing well, because largely they aren't. But the 'success' lynchpin of the team doesn't hinge on those two guys.ROFLROFLROFL

It hangs on the offense's inability to take care of the ball.

KC has turned the ball over 11 times, tied with JAC as the 31st/32nd worst teams in the league in total T/Os. Kc's ratio is better, hence the 31st ranking.

SFO is 30th, with just over half as many (7).

Mahomes is responsible for over half of those T/Os. At least statistically.

As others have already noted several times, if Mahomes doesn't throw half those picks, KC probably stands at 4-1 or at least 3-2 right now.

But no team in the NFL will ever win more games than they lose if they give the ball away 2.2+ times/game for a season.

Stop giving the ball away offense, and KC wins more games, and it almost won't matter how the defense plays (until the playoffs). Simple.

Oh, and Andy Reid doesn't throw the ball in games. Neither does Spags.

I didn't say they were THE reason, I said one of the biggest problems. It's a big one though. Dan may possibly be the worst starter on this entire team and is easily exploited. Robinson should be feasting, but the dude doesn't even get open.

So fuck off Lil Chiefy

[Megatron96]

I didn't say they were THE reason, I said one of the biggest problems. It's a big one though. Dan may possibly be the worst starter on this entire team and is easily exploited. Robinson should be feasting, but the dude doesn't even get open.

So fuck off Lil Chiefy

:rolleyes:
Really. so how would you rank them in terms of everything else? Are they in the top 5? Because they aren't.

maybe the team should fix the other 5-7 things that are 'bigger' problems, instead of benching those two players, since that won't solve anything as it stands.

Just sayin' sweetheart.

[InChiefsHeaven]

I dunno, I feel like Dan was a big reason for the loss...two big TD passes allowed and missed a ton of tackles to keep Bills on the field. He does suck. He's made a living off of some key awesome plays but the only thing consistent about him is his inconsistency.

Question is, why is he still out there. Is Juan really that bad in practice??

[dannybcaitlyn]

Spags had Mike Pennel a healthy inactive in the Non-playoff game against the Titans when Henry was going off on everybody! So nothing surprises me on his decisions. Nobody in the league wanted Robinson in free agency. They all must have watched his game tape against the Texans where he couldn’t catch a cold. So he keeps coming back here dirt cheap and the coaching staff likes him because he knows the complicated playbook and special team skills. Every year I hope he lands with another team. Hopefully Gordon stays clean.

[-King-]

Dudes, every damn gripe doesn't need a new thread.

Especially when they're all basically the same gripes everyone else has brought up LMAO

Oh do Sorensen and DRob suck? You don't sayyyyy?

[Beef Supreme]

Meltdown lounge is certainly the appropriate name.

[dlphg9]

:rolleyes:
Really. so how would you rank them in terms of everything else? Are they in the top 5? Because they aren't.

maybe the team should fix the other 5-7 things that are 'bigger' problems, instead of benching those two players, since that won't solve anything as it stands.

Just sayin' sweetheart.

First of all, I shouldn't have said fuck off. I'm sorry

Second, together they are no lower than number 2 when it comes to problems we can take care of immediately. I really doubt anyone trusts Sorensen, especially after I see HB (the leader of this defense and very well liked especially by members of the secondary) throw his arms up twice as Dan got burnt for huge plays. That probably has more negative effect than we even know on the D. He makes everyone worse because they are trying to make up for his lack of coverage skills.

You don't think a number 2 receiver on this offense that has 10 targets through 5 games is a huge detriment to the offense? Kelce and Hill are double teamed, so if he was just average, then he would be able to get open a few times a game, especially when the line is holding up and Mahomes is running around looking for someone to throw to.

I really don't think you understand just how astonishing it is that DeMarcus only has 10 targets. He's been in for 245 out of 328 plays. Patrick has thrown it 195 times. This is how he's spread out his targets and each targets snap count

Hill - 51 targets/292 snaps/5.7 snaps/target

Kelce - 42 targets/302 snaps/7.2 snaps/target

Hardman - 30 targets/230 snaps/7.7 snaps/target

Pringle - 14 targets/95 snaps/6.9 snaps/target

CEH - 10 targets/186 snaps - 65 rushes = 121 snaps/12.1 snaps/target

D. Williams - 10 targets/116 snaps - 26 rushes = 90 snaps/9 snaps/target

Robinson - 10 targets/245 snaps/24.5 snaps/target

Bell - 4 targets/97 snaps/24.3 snaps/target

Fortson - 4 targets/44 snaps/11 snaps/target

McKinnon - 3 targets/46 snaps/15.3 snaps/target

Gray - 2 targets/36 snaps/18 snaps/target

Burton - 1 target/20 snaps/20 snaps/target

Gordon - 1 target/9 snaps/9 snaps/target

Remmers - 1 target/2 snaps

Kemp - 1 target/20 snaps/20 snaps/target

The guy is a huge reason for any of our offensive inefficiencies. He limits PMs options and can't get open obviously. Say what you want about Hardman not being trusted by Mahomes, but Robinson isn't trusted or getting open.

[-King-]

First of all, I shouldn't have said fuck off. I'm sorry

Second, together they are no lower than number 2 when it comes to problems we can take care of immediately. I really doubt anyone trusts Sorensen, especially after I see HB (the leader of this defense and very well liked especially by members of the secondary) throw his arms up twice as Dan got burnt for huge plays. That probably has more negative effect than we even know on the D. He makes everyone worse because they are trying to make up for his lack of coverage skills.

You don't think a number 2 receiver on this offense that has 10 targets through 5 games is a huge detriment to the offense? Kelce and Hill are double teamed, so if he was just average, then he would be able to get open a few times a game, especially when the line is holding up and Mahomes is running around looking for someone to throw to.

I really don't think you understand just how astonishing it is that DeMarcus only has 10 targets. He's been in for 245 out of 328 plays. Patrick has thrown it 195 times. This is how he's spread out his targets and each targets snap count

Hill - 51 targets/292 snaps/5.7 snaps/target

Kelce - 42 targets/302 snaps/7.2 snaps/target

Hardman - 30 targets/230 snaps/7.7 snaps/target

Pringle - 14 targets/95 snaps/6.9 snaps/target

CEH - 10 targets/186 snaps - 65 rushes = 121 snaps/12.1 snaps/target

D. Williams - 10 targets/116 snaps - 26 rushes = 90 snaps/9 snaps/target

Robinson - 10 targets/245 snaps/24.5 snaps/target

Bell - 4 targets/97 snaps/24.3 snaps/target

Fortson - 4 targets/44 snaps/11 snaps/target

McKinnon - 3 targets/46 snaps/15.3 snaps/target

Gray - 2 targets/36 snaps/18 snaps/target

Burton - 1 target/20 snaps/20 snaps/target

Gordon - 1 target/9 snaps/9 snaps/target

Remmers - 1 target/2 snaps

Kemp - 1 target/20 snaps/20 snaps/target

The guy is a huge reason for any of our offensive inefficiencies. He limits PMs options and can't get open obviously. Say what you want about Hardman not being trusted by Mahomes, but Robinson isn't trusted or getting open.
Yeah but no one had getting another WR as a need for this past off season. The needs at WR and DE just snuck up on us!

[Wallcrawler]

How about paying near 90 million for Chris Jones to tally up some "hurries" on some absolutely pathetic offensive tackles, not knowing whether to shit or wind his watch against RPOs, and generally doing fuck all during games.

Money well spent there. Hell, I couldn't even tell the guy didn't play last night.

[KChiefs1]

This gripe is really good. All true.

Maybe Andy's time is winding down. Nothing lasts forever.

Maybe a younger coach with new ideas and more energy.


Andy is old school & that’s never changing. I’m sure Patrick gets annoyed with some of his stupid decisions.


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[KChiefs1]

Anyway Robinson is getting snaps because Mahomes hates Hardman, look at that body language.

He really does & he ain’t hiding it either.


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[dlphg9]

Don't be mad your boy Sorensen is liquid shit.

Anyway Robinson is getting snaps because Mahomes hates Hardman, look at that body language.

He really does & he ain’t hiding it either.


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I really don't think that's the case whatsoever.

Mecole had 12 targets, 9 receptions, and 76 yards. He was thrown to more last night than Robinson has been all year combined. Hell Mecoles night was 4 yds and a TD away from tying Robinson's yearly production. MH had 1 target less than Tyreek and was 2nd on the team.

If Mahomes hates MH, than what do you call his feelings towards DR?

[Nickhead]

it's simple,

the chiefs are too 'finese'

they need to be more 'i'll eat your mom's cunt and spit it in your face'

:thumb:

[CatfishBob2]

They just need to get back to basics. I think some players are playing better than most think as well. I think Frank Clark played well last night. He gets held ALOT. I wish they would move Jones back inside with Clark and Danna on the outside

[dlphg9]

They just need to get back to basics. I think some players are playing better than most think as well. I think Frank Clark played well last night. He gets held ALOT. I wish they would move Jones back inside with Clark and Danna on the outside

Lol no he didn't

[dlphg9]

How about paying near 90 million for Chris Jones to tally up some "hurries" on some absolutely pathetic offensive tackles, not knowing whether to shit or wind his watch against RPOs, and generally doing **** all during games.

Money well spent there. Hell, I couldn't even tell the guy didn't play last night.

Shut up pussy

[BossChief]

Don't be mad your boy Sorensen is liquid shit.

Anyway Robinson is getting snaps because Mahomes hates Hardman, look at that body language.

He’s never liked Hardman.

His routes are terrible
He has difficulty with any physical corner
His hands are sus
He quits on plays
He never fights for extra yards
He’s a non interested blocker
He doesn’t keep running to let plays open up
He’s stupid
He is clueless to coverages
He often either runs the wrong route or makes the wrong sight adjustment mid route

The only thing he can be counted on fir is running fast snd having slightly above average vision with the ball in his hands.

[BossChief]

I really don't think that's the case whatsoever.

Mecole had 12 targets, 9 receptions, and 76 yards. He was thrown to more last night than Robinson has been all year combined. Hell Mecoles night was 4 yds and a TD away from tying Robinson's yearly production. MH had 1 target less than Tyreek and was 2nd on the team.

If Mahomes hates MH, than what do you call his feelings towards DR?

They are forcing plays to him to try to force his speed to play a role in the games, but when you watch the games, pay attention to how many times Pat gets visably frustrated with Mecole. It’s consistent and often.

I’ve never heard him say anything, or do anything on the field that says he’s an emerging star that really understands the game.

[dlphg9]

They are forcing plays to him to try to force his speed to play a role in the games, but when you watch the games, pay attention to how many times Pat gets visably frustrated with Mecole. It’s consistent and often.

I’ve never heard him say anything, or do anything on the field that says he’s an emerging star that really understands the game.

That doesn't mean he hates the guy. You're trying to tell me there game plan was to get Hardman the ball more that Kelce? How does one show that they believe someone is an emerging star on the field that really understands the game of football and when has Patrick said that about anyone? That's just a weird line.

He didn't seem to hate him in the Buffalo playoff game last year after the fumble.


Bottom line for all the "hate' he has for Mecole, he still threw him the ball as many times in one game as he has all season to Robinson and Robinson had more snaps then him.

[-King-]

That doesn't mean he hates the guy. You're trying to tell me there game plan was to get Hardman the ball more that Kelce? How does one show that they believe someone is an emerging star on the field that really understands the game of football and when has Patrick said that about anyone? That's just a weird line.

He didn't seem to hate him in the Buffalo playoff game last year after the fumble.


Bottom line for all the "hate' he has for Mecole, he still threw him the ball as many times in one game as he has all season to Robinson and Robinson had more snaps then him.

Yeah because they've forced Hardman into that role. They wanted nothing more than for him to be the WR2 and tried to force it. It didn't work despite all those targets and now we're signing Gordon.

And I don't know how you can't see Mahomes doesn't like playing with Hardman. He gets mad at him more than all the others players combined. It always seems like he has no idea what Hardman is about to do. When Kelce and Mahomes are off, it's just simple miscommunication, but with Hardman, that's just the norm. He does shit Mahomes doesn't expect or want him to do every single game.

[ljmhawk]

:rolleyes:
Really. so how would you rank them in terms of everything else? Are they in the top 5? Because they aren't.

maybe the team should fix the other 5-7 things that are 'bigger' problems, instead of benching those two players, since that won't solve anything as it stands.

Just sayin' sweetheart.

i agree with everything you have said. yea the defense is bad, but they got stops sunday night in the 2nd half and the offense did nothing with it. if the offense would stop turning it over the chiefs wouldn’t be 2-3. people for whatever reason hate Sorensen…he makes very little yet the big money guys on D aren’t doing jack shit. the secondary is going to look bad when you can’t get any pressure at all on the QB. people don’t want to admit it but the offense is the problem right now…drops, turnovers, no discipline. their body language doesn’t look good and neither does Mahomes….something is just off…no fire in them.

[-King-]

i agree with everything you have said. yea the defense is bad, but they got stops sunday night in the 2nd half and the offense did nothing with it. if the offense would stop turning it over the chiefs wouldn’t be 2-3. people for whatever reason hate Sorensen…he makes very little yet the big money guys on D aren’t doing jack shit. the secondary is going to look bad when you can’t get any pressure at all on the QB. people don’t want to admit it but the offense is the problem right now…drops, turnovers, no discipline. their body language doesn’t look good and neither does Mahomes….something is just off…no fire in them.

LMAO For whatever reason? LMAO He leads the league in missed tackles and I'd bet he's near the top or at the top of touchdowns and yards allowed.



















"For whatever reason" LMAO

[ljmhawk]

LMAO For whatever reason? LMAO He leads the league in missed tackles and I'd bet he's near the top or at the top of touchdowns and yards allowed.


















"For whatever reason" LMAO

are his missed tackles the reason they are 2-3 or are all the turnovers on offense why they are 2-3? the offense is as just as much to blame as is the defense. chris jones, frank clark etc haven’t done jack shit on defense yet people want to just pile on sorensen every week. defensive players get paid and then they are worthless. oh, my wrist hurts i better sit out..man the fuck up. Thuney broke his hand and played the whole god damn game.

[PHOG]

The turnovers are to blame also, but anyone can go check out Sorensen's tackling AND coverage abilities and see he doesn't belong on ANY defense now. Man he is SLOW.

[-King-]

are his missed tackles the reason they are 2-3 or are all the turnovers on offense why they are 2-3? the offense is as just as much to blame as is the defense. chris jones, frank clark etc haven’t done jack shit on defense yet people want to just pile on sorensen every week. defensive players get paid and then they are worthless. oh, my wrist hurts i better sit out..man the fuck up. Thuney broke his hand and played the whole god damn game.

Ok...and he's still the worst defensive player on the team. No one said that the other players don't share the blame. But Sorensen right now is the worst starter on the team BY FAR. He allowed 2 touchdowns and a 61 yard pass that led to a field goal. That's 17 points that he directly gave up. That's inexcusable.

[ljmhawk]

Ok...and he's still the worst defensive player on the team. No one said that the other players don't share the blame. But Sorensen right now is the worst starter on the team BY FAR. He allowed 2 touchdowns and a 61 yard pass that led to a field goal. That's 17 points that he directly gave up. That's inexcusable.

and they still lose by 1. if the chiefs don’t turn it over 4 times they win. people forget mahomes threw a pick 6…yeah Reek should have caught it but even if he did he was short of the first down and was about to get blown up. Pat needs to start dumping it off like Brady and stop leaving the pocket so soon…..the offense is more to blame. 4 turnovers….you aren’t winning any games like that.

[-King-]

and they still lose by 1. if the chiefs don’t turn it over 4 times they win. people forget mahomes threw a pick 6…yeah Reek should have caught it but even if he did he was short of the first down and was about to get blown up. Pat needs to start dumping it off like Brady and stop leaving the pocket so soon…..the offense is more to blame. 4 turnovers….you aren’t winning any games like that.

Sure. But that doesn't change that Mahomes is great 99% of games and so far Sorensen had been the worst player on the team every single game this season. Every. Single. Game. I can forgive Mahomes for his bad game because it's so rare and far between. Sorensen has a bad game on a weekly basis, at this point he's trying to one up himself every game. He's just trying to see how much he can fuck up and still play 100% of snaps.

[ljmhawk]

Sure. But that doesn't change that Mahomes is great 99% of games and so far Sorensen had been the worst player on the team every single game this season. Every. Single. Game. I can forgive Mahomes for his bad game because it's so rare and far between. Sorensen has a bad game on a weekly basis, at this point he's trying to one up himself every game. He's just trying to see how much he can **** up and still play 100% of snaps.

maybe if our $70mil/year defensive line could get some pressure, Sorensen wouldn’t look so bad

[-King-]

maybe if our $70mil/year defensive line could get some pressure, Sorensen wouldn’t look so bad

Sure. Or he could not be the worst player on the team or be benched?

You realize if the DLine improves so will everyone else on the defense and Sorensen will still be the worst player relatively?

And what does the D-line have to do with him missing tackles? He needs help to tackle people?

[saphojunkie]

are his missed tackles the reason they are 2-3 or are all the turnovers on offense why they are 2-3? the offense is as just as much to blame as is the defense. chris jones, frank clark etc haven’t done jack shit on defense yet people want to just pile on sorensen every week. defensive players get paid and then they are worthless. oh, my wrist hurts i better sit out..man the fuck up. Thuney broke his hand and played the whole god damn game.

Yes

[stevieray]

NFL fans looking for a scapegoat in a team sport.

Film @ 11

[ljmhawk]

Yes

lol ok….never mind the two 4 turnover games the offense has had.

[-King-]

lol ok….never mind the two 4 turnover games the offense has had.
The players who have turned the ball over have also played well and also made plays for us that contributed to our two wins or gave us an opportunity in our losses. Even Pringle has a touchdown.

What had Sorensen done to offset his bad play?

[ljmhawk]

The players who have turned the ball over have also played well and also made plays for us that contributed to our two wins or gave us an opportunity in our losses. Even Pringle has a touchdown.

What had Sorensen done to offset his bad play?

i mean to start the 2nd half they got stops….and our amazing offense did nothing with those opportunities. whats chris jones done? what’s frank clark done? what’s HB done except a couple INTS and has done jack shit since except throw his hands up? watch him…he doesn’t want to hit anyone…reminds me of Peters in that way….would rather try to grab the ball instead of tackle someone. CEH had back to back 100 yard games and people on here are happy he is hurt and out games….how miserable do you have to be to be happy when someone gets hurts?

[-King-]

i mean to start the 2nd half they got stops….and our amazing offense did nothing with those opportunities. whats chris jones done? what’s frank clark done? what’s HB done except a couple INTS and has done jack shit since except throw his hands up? watch him…he doesn’t want to hit anyone…reminds me of Peters in that way….would rather try to grab the ball instead of tackle someone. CEH had back to back 100 yard games and people on here are happy he is hurt and out games….how miserable do you have to be to be happy when someone gets hurts?

Why do you keep bringing up other players? Let's talk about Sorensen. What's his best play this year to you? Why would you want to keep that leads the league in missed tackles and is actively targeted by opposing QBs? You think it's a good thing that QBs are seeking him out to attack him?

[ljmhawk]

Why do you keep bringing up other players? Let's talk about Sorensen. What's his best play this year to you? Why would you want to keep that leads the league in missed tackles and is actively targeted by opposing QBs? You think it's a good thing that QBs are seeking him out to attack him?

yup, he sucks and should be out of the league. hope he gets in a car crash and is crippled for the remainder of his life.

am i doing this right?

[-King-]

yup, he sucks and should be out of the league. hope he gets in a car crash and is crippled for the remainder of his life.

am i doing this right?

You could have just answered the questions but I get it...it's hard admitting your heroes have fallen off.

[Wallcrawler]

I'm not happy Clyde got hurt. That's a shit thing to be happy about.

I am happy however, that he is no longer available to waste downs on trying to justify the pick.

It is a fair point to say that when Clyde went to IR, the offense got better.

It shouldn't have to come to a guy getting hurt to force the hand of the playcallers to just concede that Clydes game has not translated to the NFL from college.

At this rate, the only way Sorenson isnt constantly trotted out to give up big plays is if he gets hurt also.

Why can our coaches just not see that a player is not producing and move away from him without requiring an injury to force it?

[ljmhawk]

You could have just answered the questions but I get it...it's hard admitting your heroes have fallen off.

he’s not my hero but there are 10 other guys on the defensive side of the ball who have been pretty bad too, why single out 1?

[Sassy Squatch]

he’s not my hero but there are 10 other guys on the defensive side of the ball who have been pretty bad too, why single out 1?
Because he's been by far the absolute worst.

[-King-]

he’s not my hero but there are 10 other guys on the defensive side of the ball who have been pretty bad too, why single out 1?

Because he's literally the worst graded defensive player in the league and by far our worst starter.

And I've talked about Jones, Mathieu, Clark etc. in different threads, why are you so defensive over Sorensen and just Sorensen?

[ljmhawk]

Because he's been by far the absolute worst.

i forgot, football isn’t a team sport…how stupid i am.

[ljmhawk]

Because he's literally the worst graded defensive player in the league and by far our worst starter.

And I've talked about Jones, Mathieu, Clark etc. in different threads, why are you so defensive over Sorensen and just Sorensen?

so why is he so bad this year? it’s the same defense as last year and yet the whole defense is garbage….is it really the players or the scheme?

[-King-]

so why is he so bad this year? it’s the same defense as last year and yet the whole defense is garbage….is it really the players or the scheme?

Both. But he's so bad because he was always a guy who overachieved despite his speed and size. Now that he's older and even slower, he's just simply bad. Then you have Spags who refuses to bench him or at least put him in positions where he's not getting attacked, all that combined and it's make him useless and terrible.

[-King-]

i forgot, football isn’t a team sport…how stupid i am.

Its a team sport played by individuals. Those individuals can weaken the team overall with bad play. If you want to improve team play, individual play must improve too.

[suzzer99]

Our replay awareness has sucked now for two games in a row. They were like one second away from snapping the ball on Hardman's DBowe-esque sideline stroll that almost went OOB. I was screaming at the TV to wait for the officials booth to buzz down.

Makes you wonder how many other little things they're missing that we don't see. And how much Andy is distracted by family issues.

[dlphg9]

How in the fuck are more people not bitching about this

Damascus Robinson played 79% of the fucking snaps against the Tits. More than all offensive players that weren't lineman. More than Hill and Kelce! He has 1 fucking catch and 4 targets. Every single week it's the same thing.