Chiefs use Franchise Tag on Orlando Brown Jr.

[Dante84]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kansas City Chiefs are franchise tagging OT Orlando Brown, per league sources. Brown becomes the first free-agent-to-be this off-season known to be getting the franchise tag.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1500799178330546176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[BleedingRed]

Good, next

[Dante84]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Orlando Brown Jr.’s franchise tag with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> should come in at around $16.5M. <a href="https://t.co/PkY8j7mey4">https://t.co/PkY8j7mey4</a></p>&mdash; Spotrac (@spotrac) <a href="https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1500802701415878656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Dante84]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> officially placed the franchise tag on LT Orlando Brown, ensuring he’ll be back in KC, per <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AdamSchefter</a>. Both sides will have until mid-July to hammer out a long-term deal.</p>&mdash; Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1500802017983442944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Rasputin]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kansas City Chiefs are franchise tagging OT Orlando Brown, per league sources. Brown becomes the first free-agent-to-be this off-season known to be getting the franchise tag.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1500799178330546176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Orlando Brown Jr.’s franchise tag with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> should come in at around $16.5M. <a href="https://t.co/PkY8j7mey4">https://t.co/PkY8j7mey4</a></p>&mdash; Spotrac (@spotrac) <a href="https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1500802701415878656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> officially placed the franchise tag on LT Orlando Brown, ensuring he’ll be back in KC, per <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AdamSchefter</a>. Both sides will have until mid-July to hammer out a long-term deal.</p>&mdash; Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1500802017983442944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hope they get something ironed out before deadline but at least don't have to worry about it if not for this season.

[HemiEd]

Not buying it until GoChiefs confirms it. :D

[scho63]

"I'll take 'Things No One Was Surprised By' Alex for $200"

[srvy]

Pretty good 1 year contract for a fair to middling LT playing out of position.

[In58men]

Why is Frank Clark still on the roster?

[Red Dawg]

That is a great question.

[Titty Meat]

Good

[cabletech94]

Worst kept secret, evah!!!!

Now let’s fix the D(efense)!!!!

[Dunerdr]

TO THE LONG BOAT!

[Dunerdr]

Anyone else catch on times ours where Nate Taylor said people have told him the chiefs dont plan to make much of a splash this year, but plan to get really aggressive next offseason? If they dont get something worked out long term here i could see that.

[BigRedChief]

Why is Frank Clark still on the roster?

That is a great question.After June 1st....

[Dunerdr]

After June 1st....

But it could just be designated as a june 1, unless they just want to fuck him over and let the first few waves of fa pass him by before making him available.

[YayMike]

Its just the start of things. Tag OBJ, Extend Tyreek, Cut Clark, these things happen slowly. Sign a WR, They will all happen... we just are craving action....

[ChiTown]

After June 1st....

Yep - a post 6/1 cut saves an extra +$6MM in cap space for ‘22

[The Franchise]

Pretty good 1 year contract for a fair to middling LT playing out of position.

Fucking stupid.

[BigRedChief]

Yep - a post 6/1 cut saves an extra +$6MM in cap space for ‘22

$6 million can get us a player that can contribute this year.

[Hammock Parties]

wow no one could have predicted this!

#fakeinsiders

[The Franchise]

After June 1st....

The fact that some people still don’t understand this and claim “after June 1st” is getting old.

They don’t have to wait until then.

[BigRedChief]

The fact that some people still don’t understand this and claim “after June 1st” is getting old.

They don’t have to wait until then.Yes, you can tell the world Clark is gone after June 1st right now. But, why do this? Maybe Veach is trying to get him to to take a pay cut? He has other plans? Who knows.... Veach doesn't have to announce shit right now/

[ChiTown]

The fact that some people still don’t understand this and claim “after June 1st” is getting old.

They don’t have to wait until then.

Yeah, I should have used the word “designated” as a post 6/1, but they can cut him whenever the hell they want. Who knows why they’re holding on to him.

[Balto]

Veach said in a interview more or less that he is trying to get his numbers down but realizes it will take a lot to make happen and not sure if it’s doable.

So I’d guess Veach is either trying to redo Clark’s contract or could also be looking into those weapon charges and if KC can recoup even more money /shrug

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Least surprising thing I will read today . . . . .

[srvy]

Fucking stupid.Don't be so hard on yourself.

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[htismaqe]

Yeah, I should have used the word “designated” as a post 6/1, but they can cut him whenever the hell they want. Who knows why they’re holding on to him.

They don't have to do anything until the new league year starts and that's still a week away.

My guess is they're busy working on Tyreek now that they have tagged OBJ and they're just waiting to see what Clark's camp is willing to accept.

Given how few warm bodies they have, it stands to reason they might want him back at a discount. It remains to be seen though.

[htismaqe]

Don't be so hard on yourself.

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No, what you said was indeed stupid.

[ChiefBlueCFC]

to the 'chip!!

[TEX]

They don't have to do anything until the new league year starts and that's still a week away.

My guess is they're busy working on Tyreek now that they have tagged OBJ and they're just waiting to see what Clark's camp is willing to accept.

Given how few warm bodies they have, it stands to reason they might want him back at a discount. It remains to be seen though.

If he agrees to a discount, they should take away his oozie...

[Dunerdr]

If he agrees to a discount, they should take away his oozie...

I thought you got to keep cool stuff for cooperation?

[TribalElder]

I first heard about this while pooping

[BigRedChief]

I first heard about this while pooping

Got a pic of the sign in your throne room?

[RunKC]

They don't have to do anything until the new league year starts and that's still a week away.

My guess is they're busy working on Tyreek now that they have tagged OBJ and they're just waiting to see what Clark's camp is willing to accept.

Given how few warm bodies they have, it stands to reason they might want him back at a discount. It remains to be seen though.

Clark will be getting the Okafor treatment.

“We would like you back but not at your current cap number. You need to restructure to ____ number or we’ll cut you bc now we hold all the leverage.”

[The Franchise]

Clark will be getting the Okafor treatment.

“We would like you back but not at your current cap number. You need to restructure to ____ number or we’ll cut you bc now we hold all the leverage.”

Restructure? Fuck that.

"Take a pay cut, Frank. Or go find out what some other team is willing to pay you."

[DJ's left nut]

Tag figure is about $2 million more than I expected. Bad homework on my part I guess.

It impacts a little how this can be leveraged to get the best AAV possible on a LTC. Maybe looking closer to 5/$110 than 5/101.

[RunKC]

Restructure? **** that.

"Take a pay cut, Frank. Or go find out what some other team is willing to pay you."

I’m starting to think they keep him at a restructured rate. Partially bc Spags loves the guy and wanted him here in the first place. Also bc at the present moment he’s the only legit starting DE on the entire fucking roster.

Regardless of that I think we’re bringing in multiple DE’s anyway.

[ModSocks]

So my sources were correct.

[DJ's left nut]

Why is Frank Clark still on the roster?

Because for some reason we seem inclined to attempt to restructure this pile of crap.

This is going to be one of those Sammy Watkins things where it takes us at least a year longer to recognize that the relationship should be ended than it does.

Hard to believe this decision hasn't been made by now.

[The Franchise]

I’m starting to think they keep him at a restructured rate. Partially bc Spags loves the guy and wanted him here in the first place. Also bc at the present moment he’s the only legit starting DE on the entire fucking roster.

Regardless of that I think we’re bringing in multiple DE’s anyway.

That's debatable.

[DJ's left nut]

Yep - a post 6/1 cut saves an extra +$6MM in cap space for ‘22

It just moves it into 2023.

With as many contracts as we have that can be restructured to push money into next season, there's no reason to do it that way. Especially since we could just give him a June 1 designation NOW and make the move prior to FA.

I don't think this has anything to do with a June 1 designation. They're looking to find a way to keep him.

Ugh.

[cwhocares]

To much of a dead cap hit. 12.9 mil I believe vs his salary of 13 mil. Might as well keep him unless you can work out a trade.

[RunKC]

Because for some reason we seem inclined to attempt to restructure this pile of crap.

This is going to be one of those Sammy Watkins things where it takes us at least a year longer to recognize that the relationship should be ended than it does.

Hard to believe this decision hasn't been made by now.

Well the Fisher/Schwartz bomb was on March 11th last year so I think we’ll get our answer on Clark fairly quickly.

I can’t see them going into FA with Clark’s current cap number.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Except you don’t get the cap space till June 1st….

[The Franchise]

To much of a dead cap hit. 12.9 mil I believe vs his salary of 13 mil. Might as well keep him unless you can work out a trade.

Might as well keep him? Fuck that shit. He's a waste of a roster spot.

[The Franchise]

Except you don’t get the cap space till June 1st….

His cap savings can add a couple players to the back end of the roster and pay for the draft class.

[DJ's left nut]

To much of a dead cap hit. 12.9 mil I believe vs his salary of 13 mil. Might as well keep him unless you can work out a trade.

Again - this is NOT how the salary cap works.

I mean, A) You're just wrong on the numbers and B) You're simply fundamentally incorrect as to the impact on the cap over this season and next (and yes, next season is hugely relevant given the rollover provisions of the cap).

No, there is NO scenario where 'might as well just keep him' is the right answer. And no answer were 'working out a trade' is any more/less beneficial given that none of his salary is guaranteed and as such any trade has virtually an identical impact on our cap as cutting him would.

[BWillie]

That's right fat ass. Tagged yo ass.

[htismaqe]

Tag figure is about $2 million more than I expected. Bad homework on my part I guess.

It impacts a little how this can be leveraged to get the best AAV possible on a LTC. Maybe looking closer to 5/$110 than 5/101.

I settled on 5/$112M a couple of months ago. I still think that's what we're looking at.

[BigRedChief]

So my sources were correct.

You should start an email list. :thumb:

[Dante84]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A few things with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#chiefs</a> and LT Orlando Brown Jr.<br>- They’ve been planning on tagging him and are pretty confident they can sign him long term this offseason.<br>- They expect that to take some time.<br>- Last season was his first at LT and allowed 4 sacks in 715 pass block snaps</p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1500972401613434880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Dante84]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As expected, the Chiefs have placed the franchise tag on Orlando Brown Jr., a day before the NFL&#39;s deadline. The Chiefs are still optimistic they can sign Brown to a multiyear deal later this offseason.<br><br>I wrote how Brown impacts the Chiefs&#39; spring here. <a href="https://t.co/0tMDUUl2SF">https://t.co/0tMDUUl2SF</a></p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1500972593058308104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Solid, this has been the plan the whole time.

[penguinz]

****ing stupid.

Congratulations on winning today's biggest dumbass award.

[dlphg9]

Don't be so hard on yourself.

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Youre a dumb bitch. Fucking dick slurper

[dlphg9]

Congratulations on winning today's biggest dumbass award.

He was replying to SRVYs stupid ass comment.

[Iowanian]

****ing stupid.


Why are you such a fucking asshole every single time someone disagrees with you?

[staylor26]

Why are you such a fucking asshole every single time someone disagrees with you?

Because what he was replying to was fucking stupid.

[Chief Roundup]

The fact that some people still don’t understand this and claim “after June 1st” is getting old.

They don’t have to wait until then.

Yes, you can tell the world Clark is gone after June 1st right now. But, why do this? Maybe Veach is trying to get him to to take a pay cut? He has other plans? Who knows.... Veach doesn't have to announce shit right now/

I thought they could not designate them until after the 1st day of the league year, which is still what 9 days out? That is when we will see this designation.

[Capt_Von_Trapp]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I spoke to Jammal Brown, former NFL OT and mentor to Orlando Brown Jr. Jammal told me Orlando is deciding whether to represent himself or hire an agent. He won&#39;t sign the franchise tag until that gets sorted out. Also has a charity event in late March so his focus is on that too.</p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1500988588196081668?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[The Franchise]

Why are you such a fucking asshole every single time someone disagrees with you?

I’m generally an asshole to people with moronic fucking opinions.

[Dante84]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jammal on Orlando, tagged by the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> today: “He wants to be in Kansas City and wants to sign a long-term deal there. He wants Kansas City to understand he&#39;s the type of player who can be there for the rest of his career. He&#39;s a cornerstone left tackle.”</p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1500988748028334085?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Iowanian]

I’m generally an asshole to people with moronic ****ing opinions.



I don’t get on the board as often. It when I do I can count on 2 things. Billay is going to reference consuming a penis, and you’re being an asshole to someone.

Just an observation. That’ll help encourage participation….Dickhead.

[Rasputin]

Of any Franchise Tag the Chiefs have used on a player to keep this is one of the least worries I have ever been for them to hash out a long term agreement.

Of any moves or FA signings anything at all this is my least concern because I trust a deal will be done before the deadline for a long term contract. I'm hoping 5 years.

[ChiefAshhole1056]

Honestly though, with this looking to end up at least around $20 mil a season in the near future how long will we be able to sustainably hold onto Thuney as well?

His contract gets up into the high teens and it just doesn’t seem like this team can handle multiple big contracts within one position group on the books for very long. We’re definitely dealing with a sweet spot right now with so many young solid contributors on their first contract (Creed, Trey, Bolton, Gay, Juan, Sneed and hopefully a few more this year), but soon they will mostly need to be brought back and that’ll be right when Thuney gets pricey and Mahomes starts getting stupidly paid.

[Direckshun]

Just to stave off anybody saying otherwise:

If Brown signs a long-term contract, his year one cap hit would likely be the same as the current franchise tag.

[DJ's left nut]

Just to stave off anybody saying otherwise:

If Brown signs a long-term contract, his year one cap hit would likely be the same as the current franchise tag.

Per Veach's usual MO, I bet they can get it down to around a $12 million year 1 hit.

If you figure on probably a $25 million or so signing bonus w/ years 1-3 guaranteed (or 'effective' guarantees that trigger a year early), let's shoot for 5 years, $110 million.

you can probably do a salary structure of something like 7, 14, 18, 22, 24. With the $25 million signing bonus that gives Brown $32 million in year 1 after signing bonus and essentially a guaranteed 3 year, $64 million deal with a couple of team options on the back end.

It gives him cap hits of $12 million, $19 million, $23 million and then either $27 million (seems unlikely to stand at that figure) or $10 million in dead money.

I could see him looking for a stronger year 2 salary (maybe $17 million) w/ years 4 and 5 being $20 and $23 million respectively. But if signed as I outlined above, Brown would make more money in the first two years ($46 million vs. about $36 million) than he would under the tag while both of those years give the Chiefs a smaller cap figure than they'd have under the tag as well ($12 million and $19 million vs. $16 million and $20 million).

I'm betting a lot of the large numbers are close to being worked out. I'd imagine right now what they're talking about is more structure than anything.

There's nothing I can see that should interfere with a deal that is fair for both sides and gives everyone what they want - provided nobody is looking to be unreasonable.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Per Veach's usual MO, I bet they can get it down to around a $12 million year 1 hit.

If you figure on probably a $25 million or so signing bonus w/ years 1-3 guaranteed (or 'effective' guarantees that trigger a year early), let's shoot for 5 years, $110 million.

you can probably do a salary structure of something like 7, 14, 18, 22, 24. With the $25 million signing bonus that gives Brown $32 million in year 1 after signing bonus and essentially a guaranteed 3 year, $64 million deal with a couple of team options on the back end.

It gives him cap hits of $12 million, $19 million, $23 million and then either $27 million (seems unlikely to stand at that figure) or $10 million in dead money.

I could see him looking for a stronger year 2 salary (maybe $17 million) w/ years 4 and 5 being $20 and $23 million respectively. But if signed as I outlined above, Brown would make more money in the first two years ($46 million vs. about $36 million) than he would under the tag while both of those years give the Chiefs a smaller cap figure than they'd have under the tag as well ($12 million and $19 million vs. $16 million and $20 million).

I'm betting a lot of the large numbers are close to being worked out. I'd imagine right now what they're talking about is more structure than anything.

There's nothing I can see that should interfere with a deal that is fair for both sides and gives everyone what they want - provided nobody is looking to be unreasonable.

sounds reasonable... good post

[duncan_idaho]

Per Veach's usual MO, I bet they can get it down to around a $12 million year 1 hit.

If you figure on probably a $25 million or so signing bonus w/ years 1-3 guaranteed (or 'effective' guarantees that trigger a year early), let's shoot for 5 years, $110 million.

you can probably do a salary structure of something like 7, 14, 18, 22, 24. With the $25 million signing bonus that gives Brown $32 million in year 1 after signing bonus and essentially a guaranteed 3 year, $64 million deal with a couple of team options on the back end.

It gives him cap hits of $12 million, $19 million, $23 million and then either $27 million (seems unlikely to stand at that figure) or $10 million in dead money.

I could see him looking for a stronger year 2 salary (maybe $17 million) w/ years 4 and 5 being $20 and $23 million respectively. But if signed as I outlined above, Brown would make more money in the first two years ($46 million vs. about $36 million) than he would under the tag while both of those years give the Chiefs a smaller cap figure than they'd have under the tag as well ($12 million and $19 million vs. $16 million and $20 million).

I'm betting a lot of the large numbers are close to being worked out. I'd imagine right now what they're talking about is more structure than anything.

There's nothing I can see that should interfere with a deal that is fair for both sides and gives everyone what they want - provided nobody is looking to be unreasonable.

This is what I'm thinking, possibly with a $30M signing bonus.

I don't see any way the Chiefs keep his Year 1 hit at the franchise tag level. They'll free that cash up and use it to sign post-deal vets and sign the draft class.

[DJ's left nut]

This is what I'm thinking, possibly with a $30M signing bonus.

I don't see any way the Chiefs keep his Year 1 hit at the franchise tag level. They'll free that cash up and use it to sign post-deal vets and sign the draft class.

Even a $30 million signing bonus only adds another $1 million to each year. So you just take it off those projected salary numbers and you're at the same spot (though he'd get even more up front cash so you may have better luck keeping that year 2 figure lower).

I mean the idea is ultimately that you sign him to a 5 year deal and after 3 work on an extension to keep him here for another 3-5 so it's not like you're really worried about dead money absent significant injury.

If you sign him to a LTC when you have 2 tag years to play with, it's because you think he's going to be a cornerstone lineman for the better part of the next decade and most of the remainder of Patrick's career. Your thought is, again barring injury, that he'll be as synonymous with the next era of Patricks career as Kelce/Hill are with this era.

So if you have to guarantee a bit more to get a more favorable structure or AAV, then I think that's a risk you take. You need this deal to hit because it ain't exactly a little one...

[BigRedChief]

sounds reasonable... good post

LT’s are very expensive. Even the average ones. Brown will be a solid LT protecting our football savior. We are going to have a solid OL for at least 4/5 years.

I think for some on here, there’s still some butthurt about not landing Williams. Can’t fault the Chiefs, it’s clear he wanted to stay with what he knew. We can’t outbid that.

[DJ's left nut]

LT’s are very expensive. Even the average ones. Brown will be a solid LT protecting our football savior. We are going to have a solid OL for at least 4/5 years.

I think for some on here, there’s still some butthurt about not landing Williams. Can’t fault the Chiefs, it’s clear he wanted to stay with what he knew. We can’t outbid that.

I kinda feel like the Bolton pick should really turn this into a no harm, no foul situation.

Yes we gave up a 1st to get Brown that we wouldn't have had to give up to get Williams, but we got the pick back that turned into Bolton. So to have Brown and Bolton instead of Williams is a plenty adequate alternative.

And it's nice to just keep bringing in younger talent around PM as some of our core players get up there a bit.

[BigRedChief]

I kinda feel like the Bolton pick should really turn this into a no harm, no foul situation.

Yes we gave up a 1st to get Brown that we wouldn't have had to give up to get Williams, but we got the pick back that turned into Bolton. So to have Brown and Bolton instead of Williams is a plenty adequate alternative.

And it's nice to just keep bringing in younger talent around PM as some of our core players get up there a bit.

Yep, who wouldn’t have wanted Williams? But Brown and Bolton are a very cool consolation prize.

[Hoover]

Yep, who wouldn’t have wanted Williams? But Brown and Bolton are a very cool consolation prize.

Me. Dude is a beast but at 33 you have to worry about the decline. Plus he's had cancer, right?

[htismaqe]

Made the mistake of listening to WHB in the car. Soren’s take on the OBJ situation is Keitzman-esque. Fucking dumbass

[htismaqe]

OBJ is lazy, stupid, and sucks. Soren even went on to say he bets OBJ doesn’t show up for camp. Won’t sign the tag.

[poolboy]

Petros going off

[htismaqe]

Now he’s bashing Mahomes like the kid is a diva or something. I always had a sliver of respect for Petro. He’s completely dumb now.

[htismaqe]

He seriously sounds like a guy that would rather have a 10-7 team than have a star QB.

[DJ's left nut]

Made the mistake of listening to WHB in the car. Soren’s take on the OBJ situation is Keitzman-esque. Fucking dumbass

Petro has gotten REAL bad since he moved to Kietzman's slot and 810 lost the Chiefs.

This isn't who he is. It never has been. Petro is a 'straight man' type on the radio, not a bomb thrower.

He's playing a character and he's doing a really poor job of it.

Honestly, it's a shame.

[htismaqe]

Petro has gotten REAL bad since he moved to Kietzman's slot and 810 lost the Chiefs.

This isn't who he is. It never has been. Petro is a 'straight man' type on the radio, not a bomb thrower.

He's playing a character and he's doing a really poor job of it.

Honestly, it's a shame.

He just sounds angry. It’s strange to me because I haven’t listened for a couple of years. I mean he and his cohost spent 5 minutes bitching that they had to talk about football because there’s no baseball.

[poolboy]

supporting Pat for his marriage, figuring out his agent and getting in the best shape of his life come before signing the franchise tag was Petros beef

[BWillie]

I fucking love franchise tagging this overrated piece of shit.

He was above average tackle last year, barely. And we want to pay him as a Top 2 tackle in the NFL? No way.

Tag his ass. See how he performs. Continue to look for talent at that position. Re-evaluate next year.

The fact that you gave up a #1 pick to bring him in makes no difference. That is over and done with. It's a sunk cost. Compounding that and just throwing money at a player that doesn't deserve it is not a great way to run a business.

[htismaqe]

I fucking love franchise tagging this overrated piece of shit.

He was above average tackle last year, barely. And we want to pay him as a Top 2 tackle in the NFL? No way.

Tag his ass. See how he performs. Continue to look for talent at that position. Re-evaluate next year.

The fact that you gave up a #1 pick to bring him in makes no difference. That is over and done with. It's a sunk cost. Compounding that and just throwing money at a player that doesn't deserve it is not a great way to run a business.

Your and idiot.

[BWillie]

Your and idiot.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/001/296/morans.jpg

[poolboy]

fuck brown, cut him and sign armstead for the same money

[TEX]

I kinda feel like the Bolton pick should really turn this into a no harm, no foul situation.

Yes we gave up a 1st to get Brown that we wouldn't have had to give up to get Williams, but we got the pick back that turned into Bolton. So to have Brown and Bolton instead of Williams is a plenty adequate alternative.

And it's nice to just keep bringing in younger talent around PM as some of our core players get up there a bit.

Great take! I completely agree.

[Chief Roundup]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Dolphins?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Dolphins</a> are signing their new left tackle Terron Armstead to a five-year, $75 million deal plus incentives, per source. 💰💰 <a href="https://t.co/nPbEFIwqM7">https://t.co/nPbEFIwqM7</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1506415153662808077?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Well does this set the market for Brown?

[BossChief]

Except Armstead is 31 years old.

I’d LOVE IT if we could give Orlando that deal, but it’s highly unlikely he would take that deal.

[Chief Roundup]

More of the total numbers.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dolphins giving OT Terrron Armstead a five-year deal worth up $87.5 million, including $43.37 million guaranteed, source tells ESPN.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1506415671546101765?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[OKchiefs]

Except Armstead is 31 years old.

I’d LOVE IT if we could give Orlando that deal, but it’s highly unlikely he would take that deal.

Isn’t Armstead also a better/more proven left tackle though?

[htismaqe]

Except Armstead is 31 years old.

I’d LOVE IT if we could give Orlando that deal, but it’s highly unlikely he would take that deal.

Orlando Brown isn't getting more than Armstead.

[DJ's left nut]

Orlando Brown isn't getting more than Armstead.

I think he will.

But that’s a GREAT baseline for the Chiefs to try to operate from.

[staylor26]

I think he will.

But that’s a GREAT baseline for the Chiefs to try to operate from.

Exactly.

[BossChief]

Orlando Brown isn't getting more than Armstead.

How much you wanna bet?

[htismaqe]

OH SNAP.

I read that tweet wrong. Armstead's deal was FIVE years.

Holy shit, he got less than $20M per - that's CHEAP.

I'll be Brown DOES get more and it still won't be close to what we were thinking before.

We could get a 5-year deal done for less than $100M. That's a steal compared to where we thought it would be 2 weeks ago.

[The Franchise]

If that's the case then everybody needs to re-evaluate Brown's situation pretty radically.

We were all talking about him getting $21M to $25M per. If he's getting more than Armstead, it's going to be upwards of $27M per.

Huh? Armstead is getting like $17.5M.

[htismaqe]

Huh? Armstead is getting like $17.5M.

Sorry, wasn't quick enough. I thought Armstead's deal was 4 years, not 5.

[The Franchise]

Sorry, wasn't quick enough. I thought Armstead's deal was 4 years, not 5.

That’s what I figured you saw.

[htismaqe]

That being said, most of us were talking about Brown getting well north of $20M per. We do need to re-evaluate - DOWNWARD. :)

[BossChief]

OH SNAP.

I read that tweet wrong. Armstead's deal was FIVE years.

Holy shit, he got less than $20M per - that's CHEAP.

I'll be Brown DOES get more and it still won't be close to what we were thinking before.

We could get a 5-year deal done for less than $100M. That's a steal compared to where we thought it would be 2 weeks ago.

No worries. If we can ink Brown for 5/100 I’d be very happy and it would be a massive bargain.

I’d give Tyreek and Orlando carbon copies of the Adams and Armstead deals.

Gladly

[Mr. Kotter]

No worries. If we can ink Brown for 5/100 I’d be very happy and it would be a massive bargain.

I’d give Tyreek and Orlando carbon copies of the Adams and Armstead deals.

Gladly

THIS

[htismaqe]

No worries. If we can ink Brown for 5/100 I’d be very happy and it would be a massive bargain.

I’d give Tyreek and Orlando carbon copies of the Adams and Armstead deals.

Gladly

I think I'd be amenable to doing a 6-year deal with Brown, given Armstead's numbers. I was thinking 5/112 before, 6/112 would be even better and would put him almost 10% above Armstead's ACV.

[BossChief]

I think I'd be amenable to doing a 6-year deal with Brown, given Armstead's numbers. I was thinking 5/112 before, 6/112 would be even better and would put him almost 10% above Armstead's ACV.

The more years, the better the deal.

At his age and lack of injury or off field concern, I’d give him the LT version of Pats deal.

[Wilson8]

I like the Terron Armstead contract to use as a model for Orlando Brown.

He gets on average $17.5M per year for a five-years deal if he meets all of the incentives.

NFL.com says it is $75 M with incentives that can bring it up to $87.5M.

Terron will be 31 for this next season and he missed 9 games for 2021 with a shoulder injury. In 2016 through 2018 he missed 21 games. One of the incentives has to be for playing time.

I wonder how much of the incentives are not likely to be earned (NLTBE), so that they will NOT count against the salary cap when a deal is signed.

Orlando is younger but does not have the past performance of Armstead. I think Chiefs would love a deal like this for Orlando.

[srvy]

Isn’t Armstead also a better/more proven left tackle though?

Yes

[BigRedChief]

Some on here just need to get past the butthurt over not getting Williams. It wasn't the Chiefs fault he didn't come here, get over it...that said...

I love the 6 year/$112 contract idea. He gets the money and its better than Armsteads. That should get him signed.

[BossChief]

Some on here just need to get past the butthurt over not getting Williams. It wasn't the Chiefs fault he didn't come here, get over it...that said...

I love the 6 year/$112 contract idea. He gets the money and its better than Armsteads. That should get him signed.

Did I miss something? What are you talking about?

[htismaqe]

The more years, the better the deal.

At his age and lack of injury or off field concern, I’d give him the LT version of Pats deal.

Me too.

[O.city]

Just get this one done. It's gonna happen, we all know it will. Just finish it up.

[htismaqe]

Just get this one done. It's gonna happen, we all know it will. Just finish it up.

Now that Armstead got a deal, they've got some solid parameters to work with.

That being said, OBJ needs to take some initiative too. He was supposedly weighing whether or not to hire an agent, a decision it seems he still hasn't made.

[BigRedChief]

Me too.

Not in this thread. Other threads.

[htismaqe]

Not in this thread. Other threads.

¿Que?

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Orlando Browns uncle mentioned a month ago that Brown is working on supporting Mahomes through his wedding, has a charity event at the end of March and than they will open for discussion about co tract. Also Brown may represent himself

[Titty Meat]

. Just finish it up.

This made my day thanks

[htismaqe]

Orlando Browns uncle mentioned a month ago that Brown is working on supporting Mahomes through his wedding, has a charity event at the end of March and than they will open for discussion about co tract. Also Brown may represent himself

Yeah, the wedding is over. The charity event is this weekend I believe.

He really should have made a decision on representation already but it is what it is.

[The Franchise]

Yeah, the wedding is over. The charity event is this weekend I believe.

He really should have made a decision on representation already but it is what it is.

I’m not sure if Brown representing himself benefits us or not.

[Titty Meat]

I’m not sure if Brown representing himself benefits us or not.

Veach needs to convince him that 10 mil per year in crypto is like 25 mil in real dollars a year

[htismaqe]

I’m not sure if Brown representing himself benefits us or not.

Who knows. The fact that he's even considering representing himself is kind of...I don't want to say concerning but it's something...