Most Dismal Chiefs QB of the Edwards-Haley-Crennel Era

[Zebedee DuBois]

I think most of us would agree that the seasons between Trent Green (48-42) and Alex Smith (51-30) were dark years for Chiefs fans. The almost sucked the fandom out of me. This is also the time between Head Coaches Vermeil and Reid. Probably go hand in hand.

As we praise our respective deities for delivering us Patrick Mahomes II, let us take a moment to reflect upon the hard road we traveled before he came to ease our journey.

Which of these QBs were the most disappointing? (Poll to follow)

[Why Not?]

They all sucked. /thread.

[kcgreene]

Brokie Brodie for sure! Cassel was disappointing, but I personally never had any quality expectations of the lifetime backup.

Also, he at least won games.

Brodie Croyle, the only QB ever to start double digit games and never get a win!

[New World Order]

Time for GoChiefs to bitch about Alex one last time…

[jd1020]

Brokie Brodie for sure! Cassel was disappointing, but I personally never had any quality expectations of the lifetime backup.

Also, he at least won games.

Brodie Croyle, the only QB ever to start double digit games and never get a win!

We got to gaze upon his wife though.

[loochy]

Brodie for sure. All of the rest kind of did something right sometimes. Brodie never did anything right and he was always injured on top of it. His only saving grace was his hot wife.

[tredadda]

Cassel because as bad as he was, and everyone knew it, he continued to "grade out perfectly" and start until Haley gave up and sent a big F You to Pioli.

[kcgreene]

We got to gaze upon his wife though.

Valid, but that didn't make the games any less unbearable.

[Molitoth]

Gross.

[FloridaMan88]

Ricky Stanzi couldn't even get on the field behind some of those awful QB's.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Huard and Orton are the only two players on that list that I would even classify as NFL level QBs. They looked like superstars compared to the rest of those turds, which is just sad.

I can't believe Matt Cassel won 10 games in a season and went to a Pro Bowl. I can't comprehend how that ever happened.

[Gary Cooper]

Tyler Palko, easily.

[BigBeauford]

I'm going with the QB responsible for 4 seasons of misery.

[ReynardMuldrake]

It depends on how you measure it. Cassel was the most damaging to the franchise. He pocketed the most money while being just good enough to cost us draft position and not quite bad enough to get benched.

I think Palko or Quinn were the worst QBs. They weren't even good enough to be QB #2s, much less starters.

[chiefzilla1501]

I still love the Brodie croyle play. It was the only time in a million years we even tried to draft our own. Those flunkies are way more acceptable than someone like Brady Quinn that was a known loser but was brought in purely because of his patriot tree connection

[AdolfOliverBush]

It's hard to pick one, since every other Chiefs QB from Len Dawson to Alex Smith was garbage compared to Mahomes.

[kcgreene]

I still love the Brodie croyle play. It was the only time in a million years we even tried to draft our own. Those flunkies are way more acceptable than someone like Brady Quinn that was a known loser but was brought in purely because of his patriot tree connection

Hence why he is the most dissappointing. Because some of us actually had hopes and expectations.

I enjoyed we tried to take our guy, but dear lord did we mess it up.

[Dartgod]

In other words...

Which one of these venereal diseases are worst?

[DJ's left nut]

The Matt Cassel gif'd up thread says all that needs be said.

That guys was comically retched. Just simple pitches and catches 6-8 yards downfield were no sort guarantee.

[Rain Man]

There was no quarterback before Patrick Mahomes II. There shall be no quarterback after Patrick Mahomes II.

[Hammock Parties]

the one who profited the most

[nychief]

I saw Tyler Palko start an NFL game LIVE. I still see it in my nightmares.

[tredadda]

It's hard to pick one, since every other Chiefs QB from Len Dawson to Alex Smith was garbage compared to Mahomes.

Ummmmm, you forget about Montana?

[CaliforniaChief]

Cassel and it isn't close.

Not only did we trade a 2nd round pick to get him and proceed to pay him $28,000,000 in guaranteed money over a long-term deal, but we built an entire way around him based on confirmation bias that saddled the franchise for years.

[tredadda]

The Matt Cassel gif'd up thread says all that needs be said.

That guys was comically retched. Just simple pitches and catches 6-8 yards downfield were no sort guarantee.

Yes. Cassel was rock bottom for this organization. Palko was awful, but he never sees a snap as a starter if not for Cassel being forced on that team.

[kcgreene]

It just hit me... this thread is asking 2 different things...

Most Dismal Chiefs QB is the title of the thread. The post then ends with Which of these QBs were the most disappointing?

These are 2 very different things.

Croyle was the most dissappointing (There were actually expectations and hopes)

Cassel ( with a strong assist from Pioli) was the most dismal. Just pure hopelessness.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Hard to be worse than Palko.

[displacedinMN]

all of those should be redacted from Chiefs records-and our minds

[RealSNR]

Some of you are looking at data and nothing else.

Tyler Palko shouldn’t have ever been on an NFL roster. Haley thought he was a genius and thought his Pitt connection was all he needed to resurrect this chunk of shit from the sewer. He legit thought this guy was good enough to be the backup.

It’s Palko. Brodie wasn’t good, but he didn’t look as inept out there as this fucking amateur.

[Titty Meat]

Ricky Stanzi couldn't even get on the field behind some of those awful QB's.

Yeah alot of posters still owe an apology over that bum ass dude

[AdolfOliverBush]

Ummmmm, you forget about Montana?

Montana was great in SF, but the version the Chiefs got couldn't hold Mahomes' jock.

Honestly, neither could the SF version.

[tredadda]

Montana was great in SF, but the version the Chiefs got couldn't hold Mahomes' jock.

Honestly, neither could the SF version.

I gotcha. I misread what you had stated. Hard to have any QB ever that can compete with Mahomes. While the KC version of Montana might not have been the SF version, he was still the best QB KC had post Dawson until Mahomes. The Niners Montana is still a top 5 all time QB in my book. What he did in the era he played in is just unbelieveable.

[redfan]

Rhymes with Grody Boil

[Bearcat]

Some of you are looking at data and nothing else.

Tyler Palko shouldn’t have ever been on an NFL roster. Haley thought he was a genius and thought his Pitt connection was all he needed to resurrect this chunk of shit from the sewer. He legit thought this guy was good enough to be the backup.

It’s Palko. Brodie wasn’t good, but he didn’t look as inept out there as this fucking amateur.

Yeah, I still remember him struggling to make routine passes... pretty sure I can throw harder.

[Megatron96]

Good God, that may be the worst list of NFL QBs . . . nope, not gonna say it.


It's such a bad list it's triggering my PTSD. Can't even vote right now.

[MatriculatingHank]

Glad to see Tyler Thigpen receiving few votes. He had talent but had to play with a HORRIBLE team. I truly felt sorry for him.

[Wilson8]

I am really surprised that QB Matt Cassel is not leading in this poll.

Matt Cassel is so intertwined with the sadness and dysfunction of General Manager Scott Pioli and Head Coach Todd Haley, it is really hard to not cringe when you think of that time period for the Kansas City Chiefs.

[Zebedee DuBois]

For me, both Palko and Thigpen made the Chiefs seem like a complete joke. I can still see Thigpen trying to connect with a receiver out of the backfield in the flat and (with no pressure on either of them) miss him by 10 feet. Cassel was bad, but sporadically looked competent for a series. ( please do not think I am defending him at all - he was bad)

But that is a 6-8 year stretch of highly paid incompetence.

[TLO]

Tyler Palko, easily.

Yes. He was by far the least talented QB I've ever seen on an NFL field. He was like Tim Tebow, only way worse somehow.

[TLO]

Yeah alot of posters still owe an apology over that bum ass dude

Tyler Bray

[Zap Rowsdower]

If we are going from best to worst.

1 - Matt Cassel. I was looking up his stats and forgot he threw 27 TDs with only 9 interceptions in 2010 so that year he was an above average NFL starting qb. The rest of the years he was a bottom 5 starting NFL quarterback. Probably a guy that someone like Andy Reid could win some games with in the short term as a backup but not NFL starting qb material.

2 - Kyle Orton

3 - Damon Huard

4 - Tyler Thigpen

5 - Brady Quinn

6 - Brodie Croyle

7 - Tyler Palko - Hey, he made it further in his athletic career than probably all of us on this board, but he was easily the worst of that era. The only qb I could think of that was worse all time for the Chiefs was when they brought in 40 year old Warren Moon to start against the Chargers in 2000.

[Titty Meat]

Tyler Bray

Damien Mama

[lcarus]

Cassel looked like Johnny fucking U compared to Tyler Palko. Which is pretty sad for Palko. Croyle was shit but at least he had an arm.

[Coochie liquor]

Fuck Mark Castle forever!

[kcgreene]

Sabby Piscitelli

[Mecca]

Cassel looked like Johnny fucking U compared to Tyler Palko. Which is pretty sad for Palko. Croyle was shit but at least he had an arm.

Croyle may literally be the most injury prone person of all time that mixed with his scrawny ass build.

[FlaChief58]

I'd take ten Orton's before I'd watch one more second of mark casshole. Fuck that dude with a 747

[Otter]

If I could hate Matt anymore I'd give myself herpes....

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[scho63]

Why do some of you want to keep dwelling in that pile of shit? :doh!:

[Pitt Gorilla]

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[crispystl]

Some of you are looking at data and nothing else.

Tyler Palko shouldn’t have ever been on an NFL roster. Haley thought he was a genius and thought his Pitt connection was all he needed to resurrect this chunk of shit from the sewer. He legit thought this guy was good enough to be the backup.

It’s Palko. Brodie wasn’t good, but he didn’t look as inept out there as this ****ing amateur.

Yeah Palko was EASILY the worst, but Cassel did the most damage to the franchise.

[luv]

Ah yes. The era when tailgating was the highlight of your gameday experience.

[tredadda]

Yeah Palko was EASILY the worst, but Cassel did the most damage to the franchise.

For what it’s worth at least Palko started in college. Cassel couldn’t even do that. In a sick way we got him as a Patriots curse for taking out Brady the year prior.

[Jamie]

Palko was the worst, but Cassel was the most disappointing, based on what we gave up for him and his contract. I can see the argument for Croyle though, I remember people kind of got their hopes up for him.

[mnchiefsguy]

Fucking all of them...and they should never be mentioned again. We are in the glory age of Chiefs football...no need to talk about the dark times.

[MMXcalibur]

Watching Tyler Palko play made me hate football.

[crispystl]

For what it’s worth at least Palko started in college. Cassel couldn’t even do that. In a sick way we got him as a Patriots curse for taking out Brady the year prior.

True but Cassel was better. God why did you make me type that!

[crispystl]

Palko was the worst, but Cassel was the most disappointing, based on what we gave up for him and his contract. I can see the argument for Croyle though, I remember people kind of got their hopes up for him.

SNAP THEEEE FUCKING BAAAAALLLLL BRAAADDEEEE!

[crispystl]

Watching Tyler Palko play made me hate football.

I remember the Colts playoff game with Huard and I swear I felt like we had a better chance to score on DEFENSE than we did on offense.
That's how pathetic it was.

[lcarus]

I remember the Colts playoff game with Huard and I swear I felt like we had a better chance to score on DEFENSE than we did on offense.
That's how pathetic it was.

We ended up starting Trent Green in that game. Ty Law intercepted Manning and ran it back to the Colts 9 yard line. We couldn't score in 3 plays and then Tynes doinked the 18 yard field goal. Total clusterfuck of a game.

[Fat Elvis]

It was just one giant glob of suck.

[Munson]

I had to go with Brodie Croyle aka "The Winless Wonder."

[TEX]

Hands down its Brodie FUCKING Croyal. But he has a very hot wife, so he gets a pass.

[TEX]

I remember the Colts playoff game with Huard and I swear I felt like we had a better chance to score on DEFENSE than we did on offense.
That's how pathetic it was.

That's because we did.

[DenverChief]

I still love the Brodie croyle play. It was the only time in a million years we even tried to draft our own. Those flunkies are way more acceptable than someone like Brady Quinn that was a known loser but was brought in purely because of his patriot tree connection

Huh? He drafted by and played 3 seasons in Cleveland (as their 1st round draft pick out of Notre Dame) compiling a 3-9 record w/ 10 TDs, 9 INTs and 4 Fumbles before being traded by the Browns to the Broncos in 2010 (who released him) and signed by KC in 2012 and going 1-7 with 2 TDs 8 INTs and 1 Fumble. His lone win was against a hapless 3-9 Carolina Panthers team.

[DenverChief]

I saw Tyler Palko start an NFL game LIVE. I still see it in my nightmares.

I can't read his name without hearing Shane Falco in my head

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[DenverChief]

Matt Blundin ? 2nd Round selection in 1992 that played in exactly 3 games in 3 years 2/9 for 15 yards and 2 interceptions.

*edit* wrong era that was a Schottenheimer special

[Bump]

Huard and Orton are the only two players on that list that I would even classify as NFL level QBs. They looked like superstars compared to the rest of those turds, which is just sad.

I can't believe Matt Cassel won 10 games in a season and went to a Pro Bowl. I can't comprehend how that ever happened.

I think it might have been Jamaal Charles making everyone else look better than they are. Was that the season he was in the MVP discussion?

[New World Order]

Good lord that's a horrible list

[big nasty kcnut]

cassel i hate him with a passion i never met a more limp wristed duchebag then him. Fuck him and pioli also herm edwards.

[tredadda]

True but Cassel was better. God why did you make me type that!

True as well, but if not for Cassel starting and sucking and Pioli forcing him on Haley, there is a good chance Palko never sees the field. He only started as Haley's F-you to Pioli.

[notorious]

It all sucked, but I was at my most angry during the end of the Cassel era.

Pioli kept doubling down on him. Fuck Piolo forever.

[wazu]

For me the only guy that matters on that list is Cassel. He's the only one that the Chiefs invested in and truly tried to sell as a "starter" (even though he wasn't one in college). Dismal, disappointing, whatever you want to call it. The other guys are just scrubs that cost us practically nothing, and produced accordingly.

[BigRedChief]

It’s Palko. Brodie wasn’t good, but he didn’t look as inept out there as this ****ing amateur.At least Brodie's GF tits distracted us one year from the suck we were.

[crayzkirk]

They all sucked and the fact that Chiefs management (mismanagement) kept repeating the same mistake of paying for other team's trash just made it more painful. That the Chiefs didn't even attempt to draft their own QB after the mistake of '83 until Mahomes just shows how dysfunctional the team's management was.

Watching Dungver repeat the same mistakes is rather funny at this point.

[IrsaysLiver]

Croyle. His "performance" against the Chargers in 2010 while Cassel was out was one of the worst I've ever seen.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201012120sdg.htm

Found the cartel-esque execution on YouTube actually. Pure football leprosy.

https://youtu.be/LLGF1kpHyog



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[HemiEd]

Tyler Palko, easily.

I agree, hands down. I will never forget how mad Haley made me when he played Palko the whole exhibition game against the Packers at Lambeau after I drove so far to witness the abortion. :cuss:

Palko was Haley's "fuck you, fire me" gesture to Pioli.

At least Brodie Croyle had some talent with absolutely no fucking help. Palko shouldn't even have been allowed to distribute the gatoraide to the bench.

[Mecca]

The Pioli/Cassel era was some peak level CP though, the team becoming great has mellowed our forum.

[Pablo]

Brodie Palko was the worst. Those two had the stink of a thousand rotten bait coolers on them.

[ModSocks]

Palko, easily. Dude did not have the talent to even be on an NFL field. He had no business being out there.

At least Brodie could spin the rock.

[Direckshun]

In terms of being really bad, it was Palko. But the Chiefs were never going to do anything anyways because they were incredibly bad.

In terms of hurting the team the most, it has to be Cassel. That team was a competitive team that his limitations just completely hamstrung. It was conceivable for a couple years in there that an Alex Smith-level QB could have snatched a playoff win with the rosters Cassel played with.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Croyle. His "performance" against the Chargers in 2010 while Cassel was out was one of the worst I've ever seen.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201012120sdg.htm

Found the cartel-esque execution on YouTube actually. Pure football leprosy.

https://youtu.be/LLGF1kpHyog



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Oh. My. God. I'm having PTSD...seriously, just watch the first series from the Chiefs...Oh. My. God...

*Sits in corner sucking thumb*

[IrsaysLiver]

Yeah that 2010 team was basically a 7 - 9 team that was carried to 3 extra wins because of Jamaal Charles and Thomas Jones. Maybe Bowe and Hali too.

Once the playoffs arrived the Ravens did everything to take Charles out and force Cassel to ball, in which he shit himself.

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[Otter]

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[Zebedee DuBois]

I noticed that today, June 1, is the birthday of Chiefsplanet member Palko 4 Ever.

Happy Birfday!

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Croyle. His "performance" against the Chargers in 2010 while Cassel was out was one of the worst I've ever seen.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201012120sdg.htm

Found the cartel-esque execution on YouTube actually. Pure football leprosy.

https://youtu.be/LLGF1kpHyog



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Your QBs went 9-20 for 48 yards. No picks, though.

Geez.

I forgot that Cassel was actually statistically decent in 2010. The year the Raiders went 6-0 in the division and still missed the playoffs. 2010 and 2011 AFC West was bizarre.

[Rain Man]

So do we think that the backups to these quarterbacks were worse? Or do we think the coaching was so bad that the backups were better?

[Frazod]

When it comes to the era between Trent and Alex, I just try to pretend that it never fucking happened. That was a dark few years.

Luckily at my age I actually really don't remember it all that well. Which is good.

[Vladimir_Kyrilytch]

Call me a biased Chiefs fan if you will but I declare that Croyle could have been good, he just got hurt all the time. Not quite the Mark Prior of football but something in that vein. The Brent Honeywell of football.

Don't forget he was the #1 high school QB recruit in the nation and then balled it up for a pretty big time college program in Alabama.

Constantly being injured and spending so much time and energy simply rehabbing is just no way to develop.

[Zebedee DuBois]

So do we think that the backups to these quarterbacks were worse? Or do we think the coaching was so bad that the backups were better?

The Chiefs had a hard time keeping the starting QB on the field in those years. Multiple years with multiple starting QBs - these guys were backups for each other. Cassel, obviously, managed to stay on the field the most. IMO, coaching was bad for everyone on the depth chart.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Call me a biased Chiefs fan if you will but I declare that Croyle could have been good, he just got hurt all the time. Not quite the Mark Prior of football but something in that vein. The Brent Honeywell of football.

Don't forget he was the #1 high school QB recruit in the nation and then balled it up for a pretty big time college program in Alabama.

Constantly being injured and spending so much time and energy simply rehabbing is just no way to develop.

There is literally no evidence from his college days (hence the 3rd round pick) or especially his pro time with KC that he "could have been good" other than wishful thinking by Chiefs fans...I was one of those by the way. Plus I liked looking at his wife.

Brody Croyle was just another loser in the long line of losers who played QB for the Chiefs. Hell, I remember when I was hoping Ricky Stanzi would get a shot...that is how desperate I was.

Brody sucked and was physically unable to play the position. It is what it is.

[Frazod]

And for the poll, I went with Palko. During the years when they sucked, I determined that the Chiefs simply didn't rate a 1,000 mile round trip, so the only game I attended during the dark days was at Soldier Field against the Bears in 2011. It was, as I have recounted many times, the worst football game I've ever seen; an absolute assault on the senses. The only touchdown was a pure shitluck Hail Mary by Palko at the end of the half, which was almost certainly caught far from where he meant to throw it. Outside of that, a field goal by each team was it for scoring. What a shit show. Yeah, the Chiefs won. Didn't matter.

[YontsRBake]

Anyone who can look at this entire list and vote Thigpen needs to get their eyes checked.

Palko.

[CoMoChief]

Cassel by far.

He was signed to a huge deal at the time be our franchise qb.

Others were drafted/signed to be backups or band-aids.

Man what shit times those days were.

[Zebedee DuBois]

Anyone who can look at this entire list and vote Thigpen needs to get their eyes checked.

Palko.

Translation: Anyone who can look at this entire pile of turds and not chose the turd with corn in it, needs to get their eyes checked.

[rico]

Matt Cassel because none of the other guys pushed me to the level where I felt like I was being tortured as a Chiefs fan for extended periods of time…. They just sucked and were annoying because of it. Matt Cassel was torture.