Was Mahomes 2022 season the most impressive ever by a QB?

[RunKC]

Heard this from Nick Wright and had to explore it.

Mahomes lost Tyreek and was not going to “be the same guy” without him. Wel except he had 5k yards, 41 TD’s, 12 INT’s and another MVP. On top of that he had A clean sweep in the playoffs ( 7 TD’s/0 INT’s) on one leg beating 3 of the best rookie QB talents in the league in a row.

He also broke the streak and won a SB while winning MVP which hadn’t happened since Kurt Warner.

What other QB seasons can compare to that? I guess you could bring up Manning in 2012, but he got his ass beat by Seattle in the SB. Brady had his best statistical year but got beat by the Giants.

Maybe Kurt Warner?

Does anyone else compare to this?

[Red Dawg]

Considering the schedule, personnel we had, his stats and the offense being the league leader in everything. League MVP, SB MVP and Champ. Yes.

[Molitoth]

Yes, although it seemed low-key. Possibly due to all of the close games, and the offense not seeming as flashy as it once was due to the defenses playing against the deep ball.

[Indian Chief]

I think it probably stands alone due to the fact that many statistically great seasons don't end in a championship. I suspect Mahomes could one up it in the future.

[UK_Chief]

More rounded yes

[InChiefsHeaven]

Chris Simms said the same thing.

[SHOWTIME]

Heard this from Nick Wright and had to explore it.

Mahomes lost Tyreek and was not going to “be the same guy” without him. Wel except he had 5k yards, 41 TD’s, 12 INT’s and another MVP. On top of that he had A clean sweep in the playoffs ( 7 TD’s/0 INT’s) on one leg beating 3 of the best rookie QB talents in the league in a row.

He also broke the streak and won a SB while winning MVP which hadn’t happened since Kurt Warner.

What other QB seasons can compare to that? I guess you could bring up Manning in 2012, but he got his ass beat by Seattle in the SB. Brady had his best statistical year but got beat by the Giants.

Maybe Kurt Warner?

Does anyone else compare to this?

Marino’s 1984 season was pretty incredible

[ThaVirus]

If you include the postseason and narratives (losing Tyreek, playing on a HAS for 90% of the playoffs), yeah, I'd say he's got a strong case.

Off the top of my head, the strongest contenders would be 94 Steve Young, 96 Favre or 16 Brady. Maybe there's a Joe Montana season that I'm not familiar with because it was before my time.

Otherwise, I don't think I'd quite put Mahomes' 22 regular season up there with the other greats like 11 Rodgers, 04 Manning, 84 Marino, 13 Manning, 07 Brady, 18 Mahomes, etc.

[Sofa King]

That year Brady had Moss and they only lost in the SB was pretty amazing.

[O.city]

If you include the postseason and narratives (losing Tyreek, playing on a HAS for 90% of the playoffs), yeah, I'd say he's got a strong case.

Off the top of my head, the strongest contenders would be 94 Steve Young, 96 Favre or 16 Brady. Maybe there's a Joe Montana season that I'm not familiar with because it was before my time.

Otherwise, I don't think I'd quite put Mahomes' 22 regular season up there with the other greats like 11 Rodgers, 04 Manning, 84 Marino, 13 Manning, 07 Brady, 18 Mahomes, etc.

I think statistically, there's been some regular seasons that were better, but when you add the whole thing up....man he was really good.

When you start looking at advanced stats.....he really blew apart the league.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

It was certainly the most spectacular I've ever seen. The way he completely reinvented himself in one offseason was nothing short of incredible.

The sick part is, he's going to be drastically better this year.

[Rainbarrel]

Oh no what will the pants pissers, piss their pants about

[digger]

You think that was good, just you wait to see what he does next...

[Seanathon]

2018 - Mahomes was a Ferrari on the autobahn and by his own admission he wasn't even reading defenses yet. He was just going out and playing. I think that season will be as close as we will ever get to seeing what raw, unchained talent looks like. As a refined, educated decision making quarterback I think this year was the most impressive.

[Gary Cooper]

Dan Marino in 1984 was lapping the field statistically.

[Rain Man]

Is there a season anyone would rather have as a quarterback?

[Jewish Rabbi]

Is there is there a season anyone would rather have as a quarterback?

6969 Passing Yards
69 TD Passes
420 Rushing Yards

[Coochie liquor]

6969 Passing Yards
69 TD Passes
420 Rushing Yards

Now THIS is epic!!

[Titty Meat]

No but it was a great season

[penguinz]

6969 Passing Yards
69 TD Passes
420 Rushing Yards

Lamar Jackson's 2023 stats?

[Best22]

1994 Young is probably the gold standard, considering he won the Super Bowl, and in style. 1999 Warner is another good one, but neither guy led the NFL in passing yards

[jjchieffan]

Lamar Jackson's 2023, 2024, and 2025 combined stats?

FYP

[Mosbonian]

Marino’s 1984 season was pretty incredible

Yeah....but he had a better group of receivers than Mahomes

[OKchiefs]

Not necessarily the best season ever statistically, but considering the circumstances I’d say there is a good argument when looking at the total picture.

[Megatron96]

Montana 1989

70% completion rate

112 passer rating

11 TDs/0 INTs in the playoffs

5 TDs in the SB

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MontJo01.htm

[PHOG]

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[Gary Cooper]

Peyton's season in 2013 was amazing.........until the first snap of the Super Bowl.

[Red Dawg]

Yeah....but he had a better group of receivers than Mahomes

He also wasn't SB anything but the loser. So no way in hell his was better.

[BWillie]

Heard this from Nick Wright and had to explore it.

Mahomes lost Tyreek and was not going to “be the same guy” without him. Wel except he had 5k yards, 41 TD’s, 12 INT’s and another MVP. On top of that he had A clean sweep in the playoffs ( 7 TD’s/0 INT’s) on one leg beating 3 of the best rookie QB talents in the league in a row.

He also broke the streak and won a SB while winning MVP which hadn’t happened since Kurt Warner.

What other QB seasons can compare to that? I guess you could bring up Manning in 2012, but he got his ass beat by Seattle in the SB. Brady had his best statistical year but got beat by the Giants.

Maybe Kurt Warner?

Does anyone else compare to this?

No that was his 2018 season

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/8644/matt-cassel

[TLO]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/8644/matt-cassel

Mods please ban.
Thx

[Coogs]

Yep! Let's see if Burrow can do this when OBJ gets whipped like this on the regular.

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[DJay23]

Wasn't Mahomes the first QB ever to win the Super Bowl and have the most passing yards? That alone doesn't seal it, but have a "first ever" in there sure helps.

[PHOG]

Lol, Burrow would go into the fetal position.

[Gary Cooper]

I change my vote to Kurt Warner in 1999. Dude walked off a Price Chopper aisle into an MVP and SB, with crazy numbers to boot.

[ThaVirus]

I think statistically, there's been some regular seasons that were better, but when you add the whole thing up....man he was really good.

When you start looking at advanced stats.....he really blew apart the league.

Yep, if you include the postseason it really launches him to the top.

The vast majority of the absolute best QB seasons just didn’t end in a Super Bowl win so they can’t compare. 84 Marino, 04 Manning, 09 Brees, 11 Rodgers, 07 Brady, 10 Brady, 15 Brady, 14 Rodgers, 13 Manning, 18 Mahomes, etc. all ended without a Super Bowl win.

[ModSocks]

If Nick Wright said that then he stole it from Chris Simms who's been saying that since the SB win.

[Hammock Parties]

that's what chris simms said

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[gordonelloyd]

I change my vote to Kurt Warner in 1999. Dude walked off a Price Chopper aisle into an MVP and SB, with crazy numbers to boot.

I was initially going to agree with this.

But then I thought the key point in what Chris said on his TV show was how mahomes had won two of three Super Bowls, when each time the other team had overall better talent.

That’s why he beats out Kurt Warner’s 1999 season because you have to look at the talent they were each working with. Warner had 2 Hall of Fame receivers in Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce and his third receiver Hakim was probably better than anybody in the Chiefs wide receiver mash unit last year. And Marshall Faulk was probably the best combination running back and receiver out of the backfield in NFL history. Mahomes did not have a supporting cast even close to that other than Kelsey.

So yes, Chris Simms is probably right. Mahomes last year ahead, the best year of any quarterback in NFL history. And it kind of went under the radar.

[Gary Cooper]

I was initially going to agree with this.

But then I thought the key point in what Chris said on his TV show was how mahomes had won two of three Super Bowls, when each time the other team had overall better talent.

That’s why he beats out Kurt Warner’s 1999 season because you have to look at the talent they were each working with. Warner had 2 Hall of Fame receivers in Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce and his third receiver Hakim was probably better than anybody in the Chiefs wide receiver mash unit last year. And Marshall Faulk was probably the best combination running back and receiver out of the backfield in NFL history. Mahomes did not have a supporting cast even close to that other than Kelsey.

So yes, Chris Simms is probably right. Mahomes last year ahead, the best year of any quarterback in NFL history. And it kind of went under the radar.
My point was Mahomes in 2022 was already more accomplished and seasoned. Warner literally walked out of nowhere. The Rams had talent, but they're weren't exactly a perennial contender prior to him getting there.

Also, I disagree the 49ers had more talent than KC in 2019. I'd agree the Eagles were more talented in 2022 though.

[kcgreene]

Mahomes just won the Super Bowl last year while taking up 17.19% of the salary cap, the highest cap percentage of any Super Bowl Champion since the Salary cap was created.

Second in that metric is Steve Young back when the cap was created in 94 at 13.1% of the cap.

Don't get me wrong, Veach and Reid assembled a roster around him, but from that standpoint alone, what he did is nothing short of legendary.

Since the cap was instituted, the average cap percentage of the super bowl winning QB is 6.99%.

Mahomes won it all at roughly 2.5 times that average, when no other QB ever has done in at even double.

[ThaVirus]

Mahomes just won the Super Bowl last year while taking up 17.19% of the salary cap, the highest cap percentage of any Super Bowl Champion since the Salary cap was created.

Second in that metric is Steve Young back when the cap was created in 94 at 13.1% of the cap.

Don't get me wrong, Veach and Reid assembled a roster around him, but from that standpoint alone, what he did is nothing short of legendary.

Since the cap was instituted, the average cap percentage of the super bowl winning QB is 6.99%.

Mahomes won it all at roughly 2.5 times that average, when no other QB ever has done in at even double.

The Rams won the Super Bowl in 2021 with $20m going to Stafford (10%), another 1.5m to backups (around 1%), and an insane $24.7m dead cap hit for Jared Goff (13.1%). Totaled up to nearly 25% of the cap going to QBs that year.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-angeles-rams/cap/2021/

I thought that was interesting.

[Bump]

I would say his playoff performances were the best ever. He did almost all of the postseason on a bum ankle

[smithandrew051]

Yup. I said it at the time too:

Mahomes had the single best season in NFL QB History.

MVP, Super Bowl Champ, Super Bowl MVP, injured for the last 10 quarters of the postseason, and all after trading the most dangerous weapon in the game. Plus, he’s not on the rookie contract anymore.

Mahomes is the only guy who is going to top this past season any time soon.

Nothing that any QB has done in this league touches what he did.

[FringeNC]

Yep! Let's see if Burrow can do this when OBJ gets whipped like this on the regular.

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An all-time great, but I had never paid attention to the offensive line breakdown before. OBJ simply is not very good.

[Buehler445]

I’m awfully close to the situation, and frankly don’t feel like setting my bias aside, but I think it has to be up there. There are some damn fine performances that didn’t win the Bowl. But the motherfucker won it. It’s just incredible.

[Rasputin]

Not as impressive as 2024 gonna be