Toney's Injury update

[Tribal Warfare]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Injury Report Update: WR Kadarius Toney is now ruled out for Sunday’s game with an ankle/hip injury. <a href="https://t.co/jJrZc8R0zs">https://t.co/jJrZc8R0zs</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1728486451136942272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Tribal Warfare]

This could turn into a universal megathread

[Demonpenz]

Kadarious Phoney

[Hammock Parties]

Injurious Proney

[BWillie]

Yeah we dont need a WR guys...

[Sassy Squatch]

My Little Poney

[WhawhaWhat]

This could turn into a universal megathread

Don't we already have a thread for that? Do we really need a training camp thread, a Kadarius Toney training camp injury thread and a Kadarius Toney training camp injury update thread?

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=349491

[AdolfOliverBush]

Precarious Jabroni

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Yeah we dont need a WR guys...

Not even one day of training camp before the sky fell!!

Oh well, better luck next year....

[Megatron96]

Don't we already have a thread for that? Do we really need a training camp thread, a Kadarius Toney training camp injury thread and a Kadarius Toney training camp injury update thread?

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=349491

Agree it seems excessive

[TEX]

Injurious Proney

Exactly. He's shown us who he is and I believe him. This is the price for his play making abilities. Too injury prone to count on, on a regular basis. But when he plays, he's gonna make plays. Having said that, I would not let him return punts, except in spot duty.

[The Franchise]

Why the hell was he fielding punts in the first place?

[Hammock Parties]

Training room is in the seventh house
And your knee's been hit by cars
Pain hits when you try to plant
And ligaments all have scars

This is the breaking of the age of Kadarius
age of kadarius
kadariuuuuuuuuuus
kadariuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus

harm my knee on a crash landing
sympathy and rust abounding

[ReynardMuldrake]

That is the most Kadarius thing I have heard in my life.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Cadaverus Toney

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Injurious Proney

That's not good LMAO

[TEX]

Young Joka Broka

[LoneWolf]

When Mahomes is in his new house
And Kelce is in the bar
Knee pain is felt returning punts
And the player doesn't get far

This is the breaking of the age of Kadarius
age of kadarius
kadariuuuuuuuuuus
kadariuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus

harm my knee on a crash landing
sympathy and rust abounding

FYP

[alpha_omega]

Young Joka Broka

That's the best so far.

[Sassy Squatch]

Why the hell was he fielding punts in the first place?
Are we allowed to shit on Toub now for this idiocy or is he still off limits for reasons.

[wazu]

Why the hell was he fielding punts in the first place?

Why was he being asked to move at all? We KNOW what happens!

[dlphg9]

Why the hell was he fielding punts in the first place?

Are we allowed to shit on Toub now for this idiocy or is he still off limits for reasons.

I don't think he was "practicing" returning punts or anything. From the sounds of it he was just out there early and shagging punts from the punter and got hurt. He got hurt before everyone was even on the practice field.

[Sassy Squatch]

I don't think he was "practicing" returning punts or anything. From the sounds of it he was just out there early and shagging punts from the punter and got hurt. He got hurt before everyone was even on the practice field.
May have just been the special teams working out first while everyone else was doing work elsewhere.

[Sure-Oz]

Just keep him out till the playoffs

[JimNasium]

This thread is Kadarius!

[New World Order]

So he’ll be ready for the start of the regular season to get hurt at the start of regular season

[dlphg9]

May have just been the special teams working out first while everyone else was doing work elsewhere.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38059421/chiefs-wr-kadarius-toney-leaves-practice-knee-injury

"He left the field prior to the start of the first practice because of a knee injury."

"Coach Andy Reid after practice said Toney injured the knee while returning a punt before some of his teammates had even arrived on the field."

He definitely shouldn't be returning punts in games, but if he got injured without pads and before they even really started practice, then he was bound to get injured sometime.

[Chief Northman]

Why the hell was he fielding punts in the first place?

Why wouldn’t he?

Next you’ll say you don’t want receivers to run in training camp? Come on

[In58men]

I love him

[dlphg9]

Why wouldn’t he?

Next you’ll say you don’t want receivers to run in training camp? Come on

Yeah, if the dude got injured fielding a punt before practice even started, then he was going to get injured at some point. He definitely shouldn't be returning punts in games, but no reason he can't shag some punts from the punter.

[dlphg9]

I love him

Not as much as I love him

[Wisconsin_Chief]

I bet Toney’s injury rating on Madden is just a skull and crossbones emoji.

[oldman]

Again, let's not read too much into this. He had some off season surgery to clean up some junk in his knee. I'd rather the staff be careful now. Maybe the Jets staff wasn't as wise and that's why he's missed more time than he should have.

I'd much rather see someone else as our punt returner, but you have to admit we probably wouldn't have had a very cool parade last Feb. without him returning one in the SB.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Here's the current rundown for Toney's first 2 seasons plus (almost) a first day of training camp:

Hamstring (3x)
Ankle injury (2x)
Quad strain
Knee scope
Foot injury
Knee tweak

[TLO]

Maybe he's not pooping well? SR - do you have any tips for him?

[loochy]

Why the hell was he fielding punts in the first place?


Dude, it's fielding punts. That means catching a punt. That's not juking, that's not getting slammed by guys running full speed at him. I mean come on, if he can't move a little bit and catch a punt then it's just a lost cause anyway.

[loochy]

Again, let's not read too much into this. He had some off season surgery to clean up some junk in his knee.


Hopefully it was just some scar tissue breaking loose or something

[dlphg9]

Again, let's not read too much into this. He had some off season surgery to clean up some junk in his knee. I'd rather the staff be careful now. Maybe the Jets staff wasn't as wise and that's why he's missed more time than he should have.

I'd much rather see someone else as our punt returner, but you have to admit we probably wouldn't have had a very cool parade last Feb. without him returning one in the SB.

It's concerning that a guy that has never been able to stay healthy got pulled from practice before it even began due to him tweaking a knee that was repaired this off-season. He was supposed to be 100% from that surgery, so I wouldn't really call it reading too much into it. Yeah I'm sure they're being extremely careful, but that still doesn't make it any less concerning.

I'm not concerned about it derailing our season or anything, but I hope the kid can miraculously stay healthy for an entire season, because I wanna see what he can do.

[loochy]

Maybe he's not pooping well? SR - do you have any tips for him?


Maybe he's not pooping well but he sure does have ChiefsPlanet shitting its pants

[Sassy Squatch]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Report slightly wrong but I’ll definitely be bakk soon❤️�� Luv You <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a></p>&mdash; Kadarius Toney (@0fficialC2N) <a href="https://twitter.com/0fficialC2N/status/1683541068757778450?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[KCJake]

We all seen this coming. A big F YOU to all you guys that said we didn't need Hopkins because Toney was about to take over the world. Guy didn't even make it a week into training camp. unreal

[dlphg9]

We all seen this coming. A big F YOU to all you guys that said we didn't need Hopkins because Toney was about to take over the world. Guy didn't even make it a week into training camp. unreal

Oh look a stupid bitch. I don't remember anyone saying that we didn't need DHop because of Toney, but because of the assortment of young WRs we have. You're clearly a very stupid person.

[dlphg9]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Report slightly wrong but I’ll definitely be bakk soon❤️�� Luv You <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a></p>&mdash; Kadarius Toney (@0fficialC2N) <a href="https://twitter.com/0fficialC2N/status/1683541068757778450?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hmm wonder what that means? Because didn't the report come directly from Andy?

[TwistedChief]

We all seen this coming. A big F YOU to all you guys that said we didn't need Hopkins because Toney was about to take over the world. Guy didn't even make it a week into training camp. unreal

Are you related to JakeF?

[loochy]

Are you related to JakeF?


KCJakeF

[OnTheWarpath15]

Growing your own is fine - but the entire WR room at once while a SB window is open?

Right now you're looking at Toney - assuming he can stay healthy - and a WHOLE LOT of question marks.

Or, if you want to be a pessimist, you can assume Toney won't be able to stay healthy (he hasn't once in his career) and you have NOTHING but question marks.

They need some sort of a presence besides Kelce - MVS ain't it.

OH HAI THERE

(goddammit)

[Rausch]

We all seen this coming. A big F YOU to all you guys that said we didn't need Hopkins because Toney was about to take over the world. Guy didn't even make it a week into training camp. unreal

Wonderful point. Have a lovely day...

[raybec 4]

We all seen this coming. A big F YOU to all you guys that said we didn't need Hopkins because Toney was about to take over the world. Guy didn't even make it a week into training camp. unreal
We all also saw it coming that we wouldn't be able to get a week into training camp before some people started shitting their pants because the world was ending.

[Rausch]

We all also saw it coming that we wouldn't be able to get a week into training camp before some people started shitting their pants because the world was ending.

The KC fanbase has permanent PTSD from the last 30 years.

If you would have told me that we'd be in 3 of 4 SB's 10 years ago and fans would constantly cry about our GM I wouldn't believe it. I still can't.

Whatever. I'm good...

[Bowser]

He's in very real jeopardy of having his name turned into a verb.

[King_Chief_Fan]

We all seen this coming. A big F YOU to all you guys that said we didn't need Hopkins because Toney was about to take over the world. Guy didn't even make it a week into training camp. unreal

ok.. now get.
your momma is calling you for supper

[Simply Red]

The KC fanbase has permanent PTSD from the last 30 years.

If you would have told me that we'd be in 3 of 4 SB's 10 years ago and fans would constantly cry about our GM I wouldn't believe it. I still can't.

Whatever. I'm good...

for real, me too.

[Simply Red]

Twitter has a few comments that are saying something like "Kelce didn't sound reassuring while discussing the KT injury." Fucking Twitter man, because they showed the quote and they THEN said it was because of the tone in which Kelce said it. I hate that platform so much.

[Kiimo]

Twitter has a few comments that are saying something like "Kelce didn't sound reassuring while discussing the KT injury." ****ing Twitter man, because they showed the quote and they THEN said it was because of the tone in which Kelce said it. I hate that platform so much.

What is this "twitter" you speak of

[cdcox]

Why the hell was he fielding punts in the first place?

It’s not like he’s ever going to return a punt in a meaningful game or anything.

[cdcox]

This kind of measured and reflective analysis is usually reserved for game threads. I guess Chiefs fans need training camp as well.

[raybec 4]

What is this "twitter" you speak of

X gonna give it to ya

[Gary Cooper]

Some men are built for show and some are built to go. Dude may look like a statue but he's a broke dick.

[Straight, No Chaser]

This kind of measured and reflective analysis is usually reserved for game threads. I guess Chiefs fans need training camp as well.

This place never fails to disappoint.

He does have an achy breaky body.

Interesting to see what happens with him this year, expectations after the SB have him playing regularly. For now, he's still the "secret weapon". They gonna keep quiet about his availability.

[Chiefshrink]

Hmm wonder what that means? Because didn't the report come directly from Andy?

He may have truly tweaked something or maybe not. IMO Toney hates TC PERIOD. He just using his off season surgery as an excuse to get out of practice. No big deal. We see this every year with a lot of vets. Not that we can really call this guy a seasoned vet but.....just my take.

[Simply Red]

thoughts on Häagen-Dazs Peanut Butter + Chocolate Ice Cream? the one W/ the Shards of frozen creamy peanut butter!!!

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Did we sign an overpriced, past his prime replacement for this piece of shit yet?

[Spott]

thoughts on Häagen-Dazs Peanut Butter + Chocolate Ice Cream? the one W/ the Shards of frozen creamy peanut butter!!!

Would definitely eat and recycle at a Kohl’s the next day.

[Simply Red]

Kelvin Benjamin

[Pasta Little Brioni]

thoughts on Häagen-Dazs Peanut Butter + Chocolate Ice Cream? the one W/ the Shards of frozen creamy peanut butter!!!

Hershey squirts

[tyecopeland]

Maybe the Jets staff wasn't as wise and that's why he's missed more time than he should have.

There's much bigger problems for the giants than the saquon contract if they are relying on the jets staff to help them out.

[Simply Red]

What is this "twitter" you speak of

I agree

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Honestly, I'm way more interested in Skyy, Rice, and James than I am in KT. For me, anything KT provides is just unexpected extra icing on the cake. And when he's out there I think he'll make some great plays for us this season. But I think we'll be able to count on the other 3 guys more, and I think all 3 of them are going to pleasantly surprise people this year.

[Simply Red]

not long now boys. Richie James is my son, BTW.

[blake5676]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid said Kadarius Toney had surgery today to clean up some cartilage in his knee.</p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1683871705062690826?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[In58men]

I had a feeling it was the meniscus, looks like that’s the case. Not a big deal at all.


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[Pitt Gorilla]

If nothing else, it gives the other fringe guys a chance to more strongly make their case.

[Tribal Warfare]

Updated

[ModSocks]

Soooo....good news? Coo'

[O.city]

Nate Taylor say something about Halloween as a date of expected return?

[In58men]

Nate Taylor say something about Halloween as a date of expected return?

No way he’s out for 13 weeks on a knee cleanup lol.

Reid said “there’s a chance” he’ll be there week 1.

[Kiimo]

Honestly, this might be a blessing in disguise.

Let the young guys get some run, drop a super talented Toney into the mix.

Rice and Skyy getting the most reps they can just helps us right now. Not to mention Prince, James, etc.

[BigRedChief]

Veach knew his history of injuries. As far as I’m concerned that punt return in the SB was worth the draft picks.

He needs to get with Patricks trainer ASAP.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Honestly, this might be a blessing in disguise.

Let the young guys get some run, drop a super talented Toney into the mix.

Rice and Skyy getting the most reps they can just helps us right now. Not to mention Prince, James, etc.

How is this a blessing? This guy is being counted on to be the number 1 guy and once again (like his entire career) he's hurt again. This is honestly terrible.

[O.city]

God....I'm agreeing with pasta little brother. What's wrong with me.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

God....I'm agreeing with pasta little brother. What's wrong with me.

Well I mean think about it. What does it matter if he's "super talented" if he can never stay on the field. This guy needs reps and timing with Pat just as much as anyone else

[Kiimo]

How is this a blessing? This guy is being counted on to be the number 1 guy and once again (like his entire career) he's hurt again. This is honestly terrible.

Based on all the words I said after "blessing" did you read them

[O.city]

Well I mean think about it. What does it matter if he's "super talented" if he can never stay on the field. This guy needs reps and timing with Pat just as much as anyone else

I agree

Dude has to be on the field

[Chief Pagan]

How is this a blessing? This guy is being counted on to be the number 1 guy and once again (like his entire career) he's hurt again. This is honestly terrible.

Nobody is counting on him to be the number one guy.

[Kiimo]

How is Toney going to help us without camp and reps? What if he only gets us

*reads list*

a Super Bowl win

[Simply Red]

Well I mean think about it. What does it matter if he's "super talented" if he can never stay on the field. This guy needs reps and timing with Pat just as much as anyone else

is it okay if i add you on myspace?

[KCJake]

Honestly, I'm way more interested in Skyy, Rice, and James than I am in KT. For me, anything KT provides is just unexpected extra icing on the cake. And when he's out there I think he'll make some great plays for us this season. But I think we'll be able to count on the other 3 guys more, and I think all 3 of them are going to pleasantly surprise people this year.

It just keeps getting worse. This is our WR room right now. Skyy, Rice, and James. Nobody should feel good about that.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

It wouldn't be the offseason if O.city wasn't worried about something.

[saphojunkie]

Toney is going to be an absolute weapon when he is available, but in no way should anyone ever have expected the offense to be built around his reliability.

He was ALWAYS going to be injured. The "blessing" would be its timing and how that allows guys further down the depth chart to get valuable reps in. Because - make no mistake - you're going to need WR depth behind Toney.

[Skyy God]

It just keeps getting worse. This is our WR room right now. Skyy, Rice, and James. Nobody should feel good about that.

Is the Skyy falling??

[jerryaldini]

Biggest off-season question mark, can KT be reasonably healthy. KT injures knee at inception of camp and requires surgery...awesome, young guys get more reps!

[-King-]

How is Toney going to help us without camp and reps? What if he only gets us

*reads list*

a Super Bowl win

I think we want him to be more than a punt returner and gadget guy who misses 2/3 of the season though.

[Kiimo]

We don't need him to be though

[Chief Pagan]

Well I mean think about it. What does it matter if he's "super talented" if he can never stay on the field. This guy needs reps and timing with Pat just as much as anyone else

No.

Reps would be nice but Andy can use him as a gadget and Patrick can get him the ball.

Health and maybe conditioning on game day is really the only thing that matters.

He is what he is.

An every down every game WR1 he is not.

[O.city]

Remember all the talk about him being their #1 wr? Come on guys it wasn’t that long ago

They can get thru without him but he’s a big part of their plans and they need him healthy

[Couch-Potato]

Damn. That was fast!

Hmmmmm. Would have felt a lot more confident with Hopkins in house.

Plenty of solid WR options on the field still, though, just not as much x factor.

[Couch-Potato]

I hope Ross, Rice, & Moore play like they did in college this year!

[Bump]

DAE think the Kansas City Chiefs are going to have the leagues best offense regardless of who we have at WR

The Toney trade already paid off for us (I would trade a 3rd round pick every year if it meant getting a player who sets some random Superbowl record to help us win it), so anything else he does is just gravy.

[Titty Meat]

Remember all the talk about him being their #1 wr? Come on guys it wasn’t that long ago

They can get thru without him but he’s a big part of their plans and they need him healthy

Pretty naive to think you're going to get a full season out of him though. Don't think Reid/Veach are that dumb

[TwistedChief]

DAE think the Kansas City Chiefs are going to have the leagues best offense regardless of who we have at WR

The Toney trade already paid off for us (I would trade a 3rd round pick every year if it meant getting a player who sets some random Superbowl record to help us win it), so anything else he does is just gravy.

/thread

[Chief Pagan]

Remember all the talk about him being their #1 wr? Come on guys it wasn’t that long ago

They can get thru without him but he’s a big part of their plans and they need him healthy

I had him as a WR1 talent (top 10 NFL WR actually), but put the over/under at games played at 12.5 not all so long ago.

But I might need to update those odds...

And yes, I was cautiously on the DHop hope train.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Remember all the talk about him being their #1 wr? Come on guys it wasn’t that long ago

They can get thru without him but he’s a big part of their plans and they need him healthy

We all knew he was likely to tweak something at some point. Better now than during the playoffs.

I never expected 17 games from him. But if he can play a majority of the year and be ready for the playoffs, he's still very valuable.

[BigRedChief]

Remember all the talk about him being their #1 wr? Come on guys it wasn’t that long ago

They can get thru without him but he’s a big part of their plans and they need him healthy
You really think Reid/Veach were counting on him for the whole year without missing any time?

[scho63]

Kadarius Toney is twice the broke dick WR Sammy Watkins wished he could be.

[morphius]

My only hope was that he was going to have some special training this offseason that somehow strengthened/loosened things up in his body that he might be able to handle the moves he can make. I can keep hoping that I'm wrong, but right now I'd be shocked if he is available for half the games this year.

[Woogieman]

We all knew he was likely to tweak something at some point. Better now than during the playoffs.

I never expected 17 games from him. But if he can play a majority of the year and be ready for the playoffs, he's still very valuable.

He's not done, unfortunately...he's our Adalberto. He's not a wuss like AM, but some people just can't keep the muscles, tendons, and ligaments healthy, and it's usually explosive atheletes whose muscles outperform the framework.

[mr. tegu]

How does even he survive the off-season without getting injured.

[Marcellus]

My only hope was that he was going to have some special training this offseason that somehow strengthened/loosened things up in his body that he might be able to handle the moves he can make. I can keep hoping that I'm wrong, but right now I'd be shocked if he is available for half the games this year.

Considering his injury is a meniscus tear that he had operated on in the offseason which probably developed some scar tissue, we don't really know how the rest will play out.

Its not like he has had the same injury over and over. I'm not ready to throw the baby out with the bath water yet.

[teedubya]

The Justins applaud this. We know what Toney is when he is healthy. This gives all of the other WRs more reps. Sucks, but it is what it is.

[BigRedChief]

My only hope was that he was going to have some special training this offseason that somehow strengthened/loosened things up in his body that he might be able to handle the moves he can make. I can keep hoping that I'm wrong, but right now I'd be shocked if he is available for half the games this year.
Needs to be working with Stroop, Patricks trainer.

[BigRedChief]

The Justins applaud this. We know what Toney is when he is healthy. This gives all of the other WRs more reps. Sucks, but it is what it is.
How are you doing my good man?

Just be healthy for the playoffs is cool with me.

[Eleazar]

He's not done, unfortunately...he's our Adalberto. He's not a wuss like AM, but some people just can't keep the muscles, tendons, and ligaments healthy, and it's usually explosive atheletes whose muscles outperform the framework.

Toney is a great piece to have for the offense. We can't depend on him to be in uniform every week.

If anything is going to derail our title hopes this year it's going to be the fact that we may be playing most of the season with MVS as our #1, and at this point it looks like our whole WR depth chart consists of WR3, 4, and 5s. Or guys who are that until proven otherwise

[loochy]

Considering his injury is a meniscus tear that he had operated on in the offseason which probably developed some scar tissue, we don't really know how the rest will play out.

Its not like he has had the same injury over and over. I'm not ready to throw the baby out with the bath water yet.


This. It's a meniscus. If it was a hamstring (like Watkins) I'd be really worried.

[Red Dawg]

We will be lucky to have him play 8 games. This will be his only year on the team most likely, so I hope they get something out of him in the playoffs again.

[TEX]

We will be lucky to have him play 8 games. This will be his only year on the team most likely, so I hope they get something out of him in the playoffs again.

Young Broka!


He'll play more than 8 games, but he is made of glass.

[raybec 4]

We will be lucky to have him play 8 games. This will be his only year on the team most likely, so I hope they get something out of him in the playoffs again.
This is dumb, he's still under contract for next year and they aren't going to cut or trade him. He has a great deal of potential that they aren't giving up on because he's still cheap. They may not pick up his 5th year option but he's going to be a Chief next year.

[morphius]

Considering his injury is a meniscus tear that he had operated on in the offseason which probably developed some scar tissue, we don't really know how the rest will play out.

Its not like he has had the same injury over and over. I'm not ready to throw the baby out with the bath water yet.

Well, obviously you don't cut him. But missing all of camp will put him behind and this make his body even less ready for the season. I WANT him to prove me wrong, dude has soooo much talent. But there are too many examples of players like this, heck Gay might even be another example.

[Megatron96]

Guys tweak things in preseason all the time and go on to have fine seasons. And we're apparently talking about a little cartilage trimming, that's all. I mean, if he were named Hopkins, with a career history of playing in over 91% of his games, then we definitely should shit our collective pant, but as it's KT with just two years of pro experience playing in 50% of his games, obviously we shouldn't worry about this even for a second, lol.

Seriously though, it's probably not that big a deal. Odds are that the staff is just being overly cautious with him.

I wouldn't worry about it unless he doesn't play Week 1.

[crispystl]

Young Broka!


He'll play more than 8 games, but he is made of glass.

No-Knee-Toney!

[BigRedChief]

This. It's a meniscus. If it was a hamstring (like Watkins) I'd be really worried.if he was training with Mahomes guy this wouldn’t be a big deal. Mahomes knee was on the side of his leg. He missed 2 weeks.

[penguinz]

if he was training with Mahomes guy this wouldn’t be a big deal. Mahomes knee was on the side of his leg. He missed 2 weeks.

No amount of flexibility is preventing cartilage from tearing.

[Chief Pagan]

This. It's a meniscus. If it was a hamstring (like Watkins) I'd be really worried.

Well there you go.

He isn't going to injure his hamstring while waiting for his meniscus to heal.

;)

[Gary Cooper]

I'm just glad he got injured now because there's no way a player can be injured twice in the same season.

We've got him for the playoffs at least!

[warpaint*]

He’s a gimp it is what it is

His SB contribution made the trade a win given the slim margin

In the larger context this team has WR questions to answer. Moore needs to take a step forward. Rice…we just don’t often see rookies make huge impacts at that position but you never know.

[In58men]

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[TEX]

Well there you go.

He isn't going to injure his hamstring while waiting for his meniscus to heal.

;)

LMAO Probably so!

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Dude's got some long digits...

[Chief Roundup]

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Great breakdown. It also covers Mahome's ankle injury.

[TwistedChief]

Dude's got some long digits...

He looks like ET.

[Simply Red]

Can someone please clarify what's going on with KT? I am now hearing meniscus tear? WTF when was this announced? Is this the one that's fairly easy to recover from?

[Chief Pote]

Can someone please clarify what's going on with KT? I am now hearing meniscus tear? WTF when was this announced? Is this the one that's fairly easy to recover from?

Well I'm no doctor of course. But I've had two meniscus surgeries spread apart by about two years. As a Pickle Ball athlete is took me about three weeks to regain my playing form. :D

[In58men]

Well I'm no doctor of course. But I've had two meniscus surgeries spread apart by about two years. As a Pickle Ball athlete is took me about three weeks to regain my playing form. :D

Full meniscus repair takes longer, see Jalen Ramsey.

I had a tear repaired myself and you’re absolutely correct, 3 weeks for me as well.

[Kiimo]

I don't think anyone on the team officially said meniscus but when you have cartilage repaired in the offseason, re-injure it, then have it repaired again that screams meniscus to anyone who has ever had that injury.

It's also a great scenario because his knee should be fine in like 3 weeks.

[DenverChief]

Well I'm no doctor of course. But I've had two meniscus surgeries spread apart by about two years. As a Pickle Ball athlete is took me about three weeks to regain my playing form. :D

I’m kind of surprised they went the surgery route. I too have had a torn meniscus but I choose PRP instead. 1 shot a week for three weeks. Then 3 weeks of low impact exercise before allowed to return to normal activity. But knee felt great after the 2nd shot - just time needed to completely heal the wound.

*EDIT* I should also add I'm over double Toneys age and slow to heal lol

[Simply Red]

well glad it's a fairly simple recovery (i guess)

[RealSNR]

Can someone please clarify what's going on with KT? I am now hearing meniscus tear? WTF when was this announced? Is this the one that's fairly easy to recover from?


I’m a 600 lb fatass and when I had my meniscus surgery my waddle trips to the fridge aren’t as smooth as they used to be. I think Toney might be done TBH :(

[In58men]

I’m a 600 lb fatass and when I had my meniscus surgery my waddle trips to the fridge aren’t as smooth as they used to be. I think Toney might be done TBH :(

I hope you’re really not that fat

[Simply Red]

Dude's got some long digits...

& we all know what Billay says about long digits.

[BWillie]

Honestly its probably a blessing he got injured now. It seems he reinjures his knee/meniscus and it's just going to be a constant theme. The knee is just going to be weaker than most guys. It's unfortunate but he can give us some good games for a while before he inevitably gets hurt in the middle of the year and we can then hope he can be ready by the time playoffs start.

[Spott]

I’m kind of surprised they went the surgery route. I too have had a torn meniscus but I choose PRP instead. 1 shot a week for three weeks. Then 3 weeks of low impact exercise before allowed to return to normal activity. But knee felt great after the 2nd shot - just time needed to completely heal the wound.

*EDIT* I should also add I'm over double Toneys age and slow to heal lol

What is PRP? I’ve been dealing with a meniscus issue from many years of running. It’s mild, but has been nagging me since last November. My doctor told me that about 75% of people can heal it naturally with exercise, yoga, etc. without having to have surgery. I’d really like to get back to running but this thing is just taking forever to get back to normal.

[DenverChief]

\What is PRP? I’ve been dealing with a meniscus issue from many years of running. It’s mild, but has been nagging me since last November. My doctor told me that about 75% of people can heal it naturally with exercise, yoga, etc. without having to have surgery. I’d really like to get back to running but this thing is just taking forever to get back to normal.

Plasma Rich Platelets - they take a vial of your own blood and spin out the plasma, the healing part of your blood. They then inject the plasma into the knee. Only the edges of the meniscus have significant enough blood flow to heal. If your tear is deeper in the knee it will never heal without intervention. It's scary to think about but it is totally worth it. I have been pain free for over a year after "dealing with it" for 2 years.

https://www.hss.edu/condition-list_prp-injections.asp

*EDIT* not covered by insurance so all expenses are out of pocket.

[Spott]

\

Plasma Rich Platelets - they take a vial of your own blood and spin out the plasma, the healing part of your blood. They then inject the plasma into the knee. Only the edges of the meniscus have significant enough blood flow to heal. If your tear is deeper in the knee it will never heal without intervention. It's scary to think about but it is totally worth it. I have been pain free for over a year after "dealing with it" for 2 years.

https://www.hss.edu/condition-list_prp-injections.asp

*EDIT* not covered by insurance so all expenses are out of pocket.

Very cool. I knew that it was an area that didn’t get a lot of blood flow so that makes sense. I assume that insurance not covering it was why the doctor didn’t mention it.

[DenverChief]

Very cool. I knew that it was an area that didn’t get a lot of blood flow so that makes sense. I assume that insurance not covering it was why the doctor didn’t mention it.

Could be - there are speciality clinics that do this - I don't see my PCP to get this done. They do also offer hyaluronic acid injections which is covered by insurance. I did both - hyaluronic acid is the natural lubricant in your knee joint. They offered a discount on the PRP if I did both. From $400 per injection to $200. Like I said totally worth it.

[displacedinMN]

He'll be fine

[Skyy God]

Could be - there are speciality clinics that do this - I don't see my PCP to get this done. They do also offer hyaluronic acid injections which is covered by insurance. I did both - hyaluronic acid is the natural lubricant in your knee joint. They offered a discount on the PRP if I did both. From $400 per injection to $200. Like I said totally worth it.

Didn’t know the other name for synvisc, thanks for the info.

I don’t see a lot of it or PRP. Insurers in my line of work don’t cover it much. ESIs are utter bullshit and can cause joint degeneration.

[DenverChief]

Didn’t know the other name for synvisc, thanks for the info.

I don’t see a lot of it or PRP. Insurers in my line of work don’t cover it much. ESIs are utter bullshit and can cause joint degeneration.

ESIs?

[ChiefaRoo]

\

Plasma Rich Platelets - they take a vial of your own blood and spin out the plasma, the healing part of your blood. They then inject the plasma into the knee. Only the edges of the meniscus have significant enough blood flow to heal. If your tear is deeper in the knee it will never heal without intervention. It's scary to think about but it is totally worth it. I have been pain free for over a year after "dealing with it" for 2 years.

https://www.hss.edu/condition-list_prp-injections.asp

*EDIT* not covered by insurance so all expenses are out of pocket.

It doesn’t work very well. If you have a tear it’s totally ineffective. I tried it with shoulder pain.

[Skyy God]

ESIs?

Epidural steroid injections.

[DenverChief]

It doesn’t work very well. If you have a tear it’s totally ineffective. I tried it with shoulder pain.

Thats weird - I used it on both my torn meniscus (3 shots) and shoulder pain and worked great. Dunno what was causing the shoulder pain but it took 6 shots and healed up nicely.

[ReynardMuldrake]

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I have NEVER seen that dude without a head covering. If it was a hair problem I would expect him to just shave his head.

Is it a religious thing? Does he have Voldemort living on the back of his head? I don't get it.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

I have NEVER seen that dude without a head covering. If it was a hair problem I would expect him to just shave his head.

Is it a religious thing? Does he have Voldemort living on the back of his head? I don't get it.

He has alopecia, he has to wear it or the sweat will get in his eyes

[ReynardMuldrake]

He has alopecia, he has to wear it or the sweat will get in his eyes

Isn't that just hair loss? Why not shave it and wear a headband? Why the full head covering?

[DenverChief]

I have NEVER seen that dude without a head covering. If it was a hair problem I would expect him to just shave his head.

Is it a religious thing? Does he have Voldemort living on the back of his head? I don't get it.

Alopecia areata is a disease that happens when the immune system attacks hair follicles and causes hair loss. Hair follicles are the structures in skin that form hair. While hair can be lost from any part of the body, alopecia areata usually affects the head and face. Hair typically falls out in small, round patches about the size of a quarter, but in some cases, hair loss is more extensive. Most people with the disease are healthy and have no other symptoms.

The course of alopecia areata varies from person to person. Some have bouts of hair loss throughout their lives, while others only have one episode. Recovery is unpredictable too, with hair regrowing fully in some people but not others.

Causes of Alopecia Areata
In alopecia areata, the immune system mistakenly attacks hair follicles, causing inflammation. Researchers do not fully understand what causes the immune attack on hair follicles, but they believe that both genetic and environmental (non-genetic) factors play a role.



https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/alopecia-areata#:~:text=Alopecia%20areata%20is%20a%20disease,affects%20the%20head%20and%20face.

[DenverChief]

Isn't that just hair loss? Why not shave it and wear a headband? Why the full head covering?

I can imagine inflamed hair follicles isn't exactly comfortable - using a razor or clippers could make it worse - also I'm sure he has his reasons does it really matter that much?

[Kiimo]

Get his name

out yo


fucking MOUTH

[Skyy God]

I can imagine inflamed hair follicles isn't exactly comfortable - using a razor or clippers could make it worse - also I'm sure he has his reasons does it really matter that much?

Alopecia is an autoimmune disorder linked to arthritis.

My theory is it makes KT somewhat injury prone.

[ChiefaRoo]

Thats weird - I used it on both my torn meniscus (3 shots) and shoulder pain and worked great. Dunno what was causing the shoulder pain but it took 6 shots and healed up nicely.

That’s wild. My shoulder didn’t even have a tear. Just floating junk that pinched and inflammation. I had to get it scoped. PRP didn’t do it for me. Surprised it soothed/healed a tear.

[DenverChief]

That’s wild. My shoulder didn’t even have a tear. Just floating junk that pinched and inflammation. I had to get it scoped. PRP didn’t do it for me. Surprised it soothed/healed a tear.

Yep, PCP sent me to an Orthopedic Surgeon for the meniscus and I left with an uncomfortable feeling about a surgery. Spent 2 years babying it hoping it would heal. Finally took the plunge on PRP and glad I did. I should also mention I took the HA shots too.

[Spott]

Yep, PCP sent me to an Orthopedic Surgeon for the meniscus and I left with an uncomfortable feeling about a surgery. Spent 2 years babying it hoping it would heal. Finally took the plunge on PRP and glad I did. I should also mention I took the HA shots too.

I’m coming up on a year on mine, but I’m definitely going to check out the PRP stuff this week. I’d rather not do the surgery unless I absolutely have to.

[ChiefRocka]

Are folks that afraid of going under the knife? I mean if it means your everyday quality of life is positively impacted. You pay health insurance your entire life. Use it.

[TEX]

Are folks that afraid of going under the knife? I mean if it means your everyday quality of life is positively impacted. You pay health insurance your entire life. Use it.

I'd do everything possible first before I'd opt for surgery.

[loochy]

Are folks that afraid of going under the knife? I mean if it means your everyday quality of life is positively impacted. You pay health insurance your entire life. Use it.


Meniscus surgery is different though. A lot of times they end up cutting the flap of cartialge that tore because it won't heal down and it keeps getting caught. Surgery is the last resort because although the surgery will relieve symptoms, the cartilage will never ever grow back so that knee will degernate faster and cause problems much earlier in life. So yeah, you can get meniscus surgery and you'll be good to go, but you're also looking at early life arthritis.

[penguinz]

Meniscus surgery is different though. A lot of times they end up cutting the flap of cartialge that tore because it won't heal down and it keeps getting caught. Surgery is the last resort because although the surgery will relieve symptoms, the cartilage will never ever grow back so that knee will degernate faster and cause problems much earlier in life. So yeah, you can get meniscus surgery and you'll be good to go, but you're also looking at early life arthritis.

If they have to do more than just trim the flap they will often do microfracture surgery to 'replace' the bad cartilage. Kelce had this his first year in the NFL.

[dlphg9]

Adam Schefter tweeted 5 hours ago that the Chiefs expect Toney and Pacheco to play in the season opener. If Schefter is saying it, then I like his chances.

That idiot Pete Sweeney has been saying for bit now that he expects him to start on the IR. Dude knows jack shit about what's going on inside the organization.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Adam Schefter tweeted 5 hours ago that the Chiefs expect Toney and Pacheco to play in the season opener. If Schefter is saying it, then I like his chances.

That idiot Pete Sweeney has been saying for bit now that he expects him to start on the IR. Dude knows jack shit about what's going on inside the organization.I really want to believe that, although wasn't he the one that also said KT had the surgery months ago?

[Marcellus]

I really want to believe that, although wasn't he the one that also said KT had the surgery months ago?

He did have surgery months ago, and had another one recently.

[Simply Red]

I really want to believe that, although wasn't he the one that also said KT had the surgery months ago?

Pete Sweeney is actually the best one out of that group. This guy just posts with his butthole.

[Tribal Warfare]

Updated

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Nice that we’ll have 21 of 22 starters ready to go. I hear there’s still some no name DT who isn’t showing up but we should be fine.

[PHOG]

Nice. All hands on deck. Well (cough cough) except you Chrissy.

[Dunerdr]

KEEP FUCKING DOUBTING KADARIOUS TONEY

[ThaVirus]

Nice that we’ll have 21 of 22 starters ready to go. I hear there’s still some no name DT who isn’t showing up but we should be fine.

Is Sneed playing as well?

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Is Sneed playing as well?

Yes, see the updated OP. Reid says he’s good to go.

[Chief Pagan]

KEEP ****ING DOUBTING KADARIOUS TONEY

I HAVE NO ****ING DOUBT KADARIOUS TONEY WILL BE AWESOME WHEN HE'S OUT ON THE FIELD.

[Bump]

good to go!

I forgot it was Thursday night too, awesome

[Tribal Warfare]

Updated

[BenoniBenko]

Needs to be released at the end of the season. Thanks for the return in the Super Bowl but he's useless if he's rarely ever fit.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

My God is Toney ever useless. He better not have a role here next year except as a 5th or 6th WR. This shit is getting ridiculous.

[RINGLEADER]

He gets injured in practice a lot

[TEX]

My God is Toney ever useless. He better not have a role here next year except as a 5th or 6th WR. This shit is getting ridiculous.

But, but, but he's so talented! LMAO

[-King-]

My God is Toney ever useless. He better not have a role here next year except as a 5th or 6th WR. This shit is getting ridiculous.

What's the point of even that? Cut him and move on.

[Wallcrawler]

Saw him kneeling on the sidelines after a play with a trainer in his ear, figured he'd bruised his vagina again.

Just sucks. The guy has some of the sickest start and stops I've seen, but the body of a cancer patient.

[493rd]

The Toney experiment is a failure. Just like the Skyy Moore, MVS, and Hardman x 2 experiments. Veach has been fantastic…but terrible with WR. It’s a damn shame they did this to Mahomes. The positive thing is that if this is the low bar for Mahomes it’s still significantly higher than most of the league.

[ThaVirus]

What's the point of even that? Cut him and move on.

Cheap body with potential.

Realistically, we can’t cut him, MVS, and Skyy in the same offseason. Hardman’s deal will be up this season as well, I think, and Ross is worthless/has legal issues.

You just can’t lose 5 WRs in one offseason.

[Otter]

Vet minimum on this guy or GTFO. It's a safe assumption that if he plays he gets hurt.


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There is no other word than "ass" to describe our WR squad. They even managed to infect Travis last game.