8/17/23 Daily Training Camp Thread

[Buehler445]

Let’s do this

[Darien25]

Let’s do this

10-4 good buddy, lets get this big red train rolling...

[Rainbarrel]

Oh my

[BWillie]

When do they leave St Joe?

[Simply Red]

Good morning.

[Skyy God]

When do they leave St Joe?

Today is the last day of camp.

Chris Jones has now accumulated (I think) $1.7M in non-waveable fines.

[BlackHelicopters]

In for no more injuries.

[In58men]

Today is the last day of camp.

Chris Jones has now accumulated (I think) $1.7M in non-waveable fines.

The team will pay it for him.

Sign the contract and we’ll pay the fees.

[Chief Roundup]

The team will pay it for him.

Sign the contract and we’ll pay the fees.

That is not allowed.

[Chief Roundup]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another step closer to opening night at Arrowhead: the Chiefs shut down training camp today.</p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1692147277958086699?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[FlaChief58]

Hi, I just came here because I like the Kansas City Chiefs

[Rasputin]

Hi, I just came here because I like the Kansas City Chiefs


You and me both brother

[Kiimo]

Looking forward to Justyn Ross slowly meandering through the secondary with defensive backs circling him like sheep dogs, creating no separation and poorly catching touchdown passes out of pure luck again and again

[BWillie]

The team will pay it for him.

Sign the contract and we’ll pay the fees.

Chiefs don't have to do anything IMO. Whats he gonna do sit out the whole year and forfeit 21M?

Chris Jones has to come down to the Chiefs number. The Chiefs don't have to come up to his number. Jones has absolutely no leverage.

[Easy 6]

Looking forward to Justyn Ross slowly meandering through the secondary with defensive backs circling him like sheep dogs, creating no separation and poorly catching touchdown passes out of pure luck again and again

At this rate he'll be lucky to even make the practice squad :(

[Simply Red]

Looking forward to Justyn Ross slowly meandering through the secondary with defensive backs circling him like sheep dogs, creating no separation and poorly catching touchdown passes out of pure luck again and again

I don't get it, what did I miss?

[Simply Red]

what happened to Justyn?

[Marcellus]

The team will pay it for him.

Sign the contract and we’ll pay the fees.

Teams can only do that for players after their first contract, fines cannot be waved on 2nd contract hold outs. And just adding money to the deal is real money, not the same as waiving the fine so its real $ impact for either the team or the player.

Another reason the holdout is stupid.

[KCUnited]

what happened to Justyn?

Inmem's lady got pregnant with triplets just by looking at his autograph after the routes he ran in practice yesterday

[Dunerdr]

I can’t wait until the Chiefs play again!

[O.city]

Teams can only do that for players after their first contract, fines cannot be waved on 2nd contract hold outs. And just adding money to the deal is real money, not the same as waiving the fine so its real $ impact for either the team or the player.

Another reason the holdout is stupid.

They could include the amount in the next contract that he's been fined.

[Marcellus]

They could include the amount in the next contract that he's been fined.

And that cost actual $, read the post again.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Chiefs don't have to do anything IMO. Whats he gonna do sit out the whole year and forfeit 21M?

Chris Jones has to come down to the Chiefs number. The Chiefs don't have to come up to his number. Jones has absolutely no leverage.

He said he’ll never play for another team. He didn’t say “I’ll never play for another team unless my current team won’t pay me $30+ mil/yr.”

We’ll find out if he’s a man of his word. Lazy bastard probably just wanted to skip training camp.

[O.city]

And that cost actual $, read the post again.

Six of one, half dozen of the other.

Would essentially be the same thing.

[Mecca]

He said he’ll never play for another team. He didn’t say “I’ll never play for another team unless my current team won’t pay me $30+ mil/yr.”

We’ll find out if he’s a man of his word. Lazy bastard probably just wanted to skip training camp.

Guys say lots of things that are negotiation tactics or that they don't really mean.

[Marcellus]

Six of one, half dozen of the other.

Would essentially be the same thing.

The fines Jones has incurred do not give cap relief and the money added on to the next contract to counter the fines would count against the cap during his new contract because assuming he actually want to recoup the $ it will have to be on the front end.

In an end of 1st contract hold out scenario the team waives the fines and its like it never happened so no down the road cap impact.

So no its not the same.

[O.city]

The fines Jones has incurred do not give cap relief and the money added on to the next contract to counter the fines would count against the cap during his new contract because assuming he actually want to recoup the $ it will have to be on the front end.

In an end of 1st contract hold out scenario the team waives the fines and its like it never happened so no down the road cap impact.

So no its not the same.

I understand what you mean and are saying here, yes.

But they can add the amount fined in the next deal to smooth things out if they'd like. It would essentially be a good will act by the team

[Zebedee DuBois]

.

So no its not the same.

I submit that if you were looking at this situation from Proxima b, a planet circling Proxima Centauri (one of the three Alpha Centauri stars), it looks EXACTLY the same

[penguinz]

I understand what you mean and are saying here, yes.

But they can add the amount fined in the next deal to smooth things out if they'd like. It would essentially be a good will act by the team

So you want the Chiefs to punish themselves for Jones sitting out?

[Dunerdr]

Waiting for that CJ extension

[PHOG]

Ok, they're ending training camp today, and the next scheduled thing will be the Cardinals preseason game @ Arizona? No thanks, everyone just take the weekend off, nothing to gain by putting our players on THAT turf again.

[ptlyon]

Definitely no field goal attempts

[Dunerdr]

Ok, they're ending training camp today, and the next scheduled thing will be the Cardinals preseason game @ Arizona? No thanks, everyone just take the weekend off, nothing to gain by putting our players on THAT turf again.

What would the eagles do?

[PHOG]

What would the eagles do?

You mean after drying their tears? LMAO

I have no idea.

[Kiimo]

Looking forward to Justyn Ross slowly meandering through the secondary with defensive backs circling him like sheep dogs, creating no separation and poorly catching touchdown passes out of pure luck again and again

kozzman555 downvoted this so everyone point at kozzman555 because he clearly hates Justyn Ross.



(or doesn't understand sarcasm)

[dlphg9]

He said he’ll never play for another team. He didn’t say “I’ll never play for another team unless my current team won’t pay me $30+ mil/yr.”

We’ll find out if he’s a man of his word. Lazy bastard probably just wanted to skip training camp.

I have never heard anyone call Chris Jones lazy. It's the opposite. People talk about his work ethic. You think he'd be one of the favorites and leaders in the locker room if he was lazy. He's one of the best defensive players in the entire league and you think he got to that point by being lazy?

[ptlyon]

So, I take it was a closed practice today?

[DJ's left nut]

The only important news today:

The Athletic pulled the plug on the Times Ours podcast. Got rid of independent contractors so Seth and Josh are out. Nate folded it.

Sounds like they'll try to pull it together somewhere else but still - fuuuuuuuuck. Those guys are great together.

[Kiimo]

Rick James dominated in practice apparently, that seems important to me

[Dunerdr]

The only important news today:

The Athletic pulled the plug on the Times Ours podcast. Got rid of independent contractors so Seth and Josh are out. Nate folded it.

Sounds like they'll try to pull it together somewhere else but still - fuuuuuuuuck. Those guys are great together.

So Nate’s still with the athletic? Sucks to hear. Probably my favorite podcast.

[Hydrae]

The only important news today:

The Athletic pulled the plug on the Times Ours podcast. Got rid of independent contractors so Seth and Josh are out. Nate folded it.

Sounds like they'll try to pull it together somewhere else but still - fuuuuuuuuck. Those guys are great together.

****ing NY Times! :cuss:

Subscription cancelled.

I was already leaning that way. I follow 3 teams: Chiefs, Blazers, DBacks. Nate is the only writer for any of those teams.

During the hot start and then dramatic crash recently for the DBacks, nothing.

Dame wants a trade all summer, nothing on the Athletic directly from anyone involved and certainly nothing with a local perspective.

The site has certainly declined a lot in the last year since they were acquired. It is sad but this is part of what corporate America does.

[O.city]

The only important news today:

The Athletic pulled the plug on the Times Ours podcast. Got rid of independent contractors so Seth and Josh are out. Nate folded it.

Sounds like they'll try to pull it together somewhere else but still - fuuuuuuuuck. Those guys are great together.

Man......I just can't listen to it.

I'm in the minority.

[Hydrae]

So, I take it was a closed practice today?

I thought it was supposed to be open to the public. :shrug:

[Dunerdr]

Man......I just can't listen to it.

I'm in the minority.

It gets cringey sometimes I get it. And Nate’s inside info has been off a lot of times. But over all I like them.

[JPH83]

kozzman555 downvoted this so everyone point at kozzman555 because he clearly hates Justyn Ross.



(or doesn't understand sarcasm)

I've been trying to work out who downvotes to start petty grievances. How do you find this out ffs?!

[penguinz]

I've been trying to work out who downvotes to start petty grievances. How do you find this out ffs?!

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/profile.php?do=helpfulans

[Pitt Gorilla]

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/profile.php?do=helpfulans

What's the deal with MarkDavisHaircut downvoting so much stuff?

[Kiimo]

Easy answer is Raiders Fan

[smithandrew051]

****ing NY Times! :cuss:

Subscription cancelled.

I was already leaning that way. I follow 3 teams: Chiefs, Blazers, DBacks. Nate is the only writer for any of those teams.

During the hot start and then dramatic crash recently for the DBacks, nothing.

Dame wants a trade all summer, nothing on the Athletic directly from anyone involved and certainly nothing with a local perspective.

The site has certainly declined a lot in the last year since they were acquired. It is sad but this is part of what corporate America does.

How did you end up with those as your teams? That’s an odd combo.

[Hydrae]

How did you end up with those as your teams? That’s an odd combo.

I have lived all over the country. Graduated high school in the Portland area and the Blazers were the only team in town. That was back in the Drexel vs Jordan years. So much fun but not the first I learned of following losing franchises. The first sports team I followed was the Cubs after we moved to Chicago when I was a small kid. Then we moved to Boston. My mom loved those losers until the end but at least she got to see them both win championships before her death.

I somewhat followed the Seahawks while living in the Northwest but was not big into football. In 1990 I wound up in Columbia. Missouri and started watching the Chiefs. The 90's were some fun if frustrating years.

A couple years later I was in Flagstaff, Az. I tried to be a fan of the newly moved Cardinals (Jake Plummer!) but that was near impossible and I kept my fandom of the Chiefs. Then the DBacks got started and won the World Series against the Yankees. That was an amazing series.

I have been in the Austin area for 24 years now. My wife keeps telling me that I should be a Cowboys fan since we moved here. No way in hell!

So, until Mahomes I have experienced one of my teams winning a championship one time. I will revel in this period of time for as long as it (or I) last!

[RealSNR]

What's the deal with MarkDavisHaircut downvoting so much stuff?

He doesn't understand what it's meant for and upvotes/downvotes shit based on whether he agrees with the post or not.

[nychief]

Man......I just can't listen to it.

I'm in the minority.

Oh god totally agree…those three giggling with one another for an hour every month was unbearable. No great loss.

[ptlyon]

He doesn't understand what it's meant for and upvotes/downvotes shit based on whether he agrees with the post or not.

Um, ain't that what it's for?

[Skyy God]

Easy answer is Raiders Fan

Oh, he’s a fuckstick even by Raiders fan standards.

[ThaVirus]

I don't get it, what did I miss?

The other day, in one of these TC threads, I mentioned that it appears Justyn Ross lacks explosion and may struggle to gain separation against man coverage. Apparently that’s a sentiment shared by a few others. It developed into a small debate.

Apparently he’s still butthurt that other people have opinions.

[RealSNR]

Um, ain't that what it's for?

It's for like/dislike, not agree/disagree. Sometimes they overlap, but there IS a difference.

If I went to the Rice/Ross thread and downvoted everybody who thinks Justyn Ross will be the better player, that would make me kind of an epic douche, no? If you disagree with somebody, have the conversation. That's how this place has always worked. Don't just click a thumbs down and go on to the next post.

[BleedingRed]

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/profile.php?do=helpfulans

Lmao its the same people over and over, some of the grown adults on this forum are fucking pussies

[saphojunkie]

It's for like/dislike, not agree/disagree. Sometimes they overlap, but there IS a difference.

If I went to the Rice/Ross thread and downvoted everybody who thinks Justyn Ross will be the better player, that would make me kind of an epic douche, no? If you disagree with somebody, have the conversation. That's how this place has always worked. Don't just click a thumbs down and go on to the next post.

liked the post, neg repped, reported, quoted for truth