The Bills take the AFC this seasom

[JustDíqLix]

Are you ready for some football!?

I know I am!

With that, I am here to make a proclamation!

The mighty Bills from Buffalo will take the AFC this year.

For two decades I watched people say the Patriots window was closed, that their time was dwindling, that it was all over… seemingly every time those predictions happened, the Patriots went and won another Super Bowl.

A lot of doom talk simply because we lost to the Bengals in the playoffs. Let us not forget that the Bills watched their brother DIE on the field just a few weeks prior. Their heart was simply not in it. If it had been, the Bills would have captured the AFC last year.

The Bills have won 2 of their last 3 in Arrowhead and they’re ready to make it 3 of the last 4.

Let’s go mighty Buffalo Bills! 🦬 🦬 🦬

[Skyy God]

Lol, no.

League circles say you’re a moron.

[DJJasonp]

The Bills have won 2 of their last 3 in Arrowhead and they’re ready to make it 3 of the last 4.

Let’s go mighty Buffalo Bills! 🦬 🦬 🦬

what happens when it really matters?

[Megatron96]

Lol. Here we go again

[mr. tegu]

Won’t make the playoffs. Below average on OL and DL, aging secondary, no run game, more QB regression with turnovers without Daboll, and no significant receiving threat outside of Diggs.

[RealSNR]

Diggs thinks your team sucks.

You should be thanking him. You need to be collecting obstacles you can blame for when you come up short

[The Iron Chief]

Nobody crashes the Wagon like the Buffalo Bills!!
Year after year after year.

[Chieftain]

Bufalooool Bills would be lucky to finish second in their own division. Deranged fool.

[Rainbarrel]

Knowmo screams copyright infringement

[notorious]

Better load up on more tables, and a gaggle of dildos.

[|Zach|]

Never heard of them

[staylor26]

Bills fans pretending to be excited for the new season when they're really just scared to get hurt again:


https://i.imgur.com/twfIxpF.gif

[smithandrew051]

OP catches AIDS this season

[wazu]

Is winning the AFC really your goal? That's kinda sad. Carl Peterson used to say shit like that.

[Spott]

I do think they’ll win their division, but I’m betting on another divisional round exit this year.

[Pablo]

Boy I Love Licking Scrotum

[Coochie liquor]

Shall we make a wager?? I’m seeing first round exit IF they make the playoffs at all!

[mr. tegu]

It’s a new season which means it’s a new QB’s turn to be the next to “challenge” Mahomes as the top QB.

2018 - Watson
2019 - Jackson
2020 - Herbert
2021 - Allen
2022 - Burrow
2023? It’s Lawrence’s turn to be discussion fodder to Mahomes’ greatness.

[PHOG]

Sheesh! :facepalm:

[scho63]

https://benton.uconn.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/2454/2020/10/2002.22_Wojnarowicz.jpg

[JustDíqLix]

Won’t make the playoffs. Below average on OL and DL, aging secondary, no run game, more QB regression with turnovers without Daboll, and no significant receiving threat outside of Diggs.

Heard this the past four seasons.

[staylor26]

Heard this the past four seasons.

Lol the irony.

[JustDíqLix]

Shall we make a wager?? I’m seeing first round exit IF they make the playoffs at all!

Sure.

Bills had an under-the-radar great off-season.

- Drafted Kincaid, who is our Kelce
- Bolstered our o-line with OTorrence and McGovern.
- Got our All-Pro safety back from injury
- Got new toys for Allen, in Harty and Sherfield

[KCUnited]

You spelled dick wrong

[TEX]

Are you ready for some football!?

I know I am!

With that, I am here to make a proclamation!

The mighty Bills from Buffalo will take the AFC this year.

For two decades I watched people say the Patriots window was closed, that their time was dwindling, that it was all over… seemingly every time those predictions happened, the Patriots went and won another Super Bowl.

A lot of doom talk simply because we lost to the Bengals in the playoffs. Let us not forget that the Bills watched their brother DIE on the field just a few weeks prior. Their heart was simply not in it. If it had been, the Bills would have captured the AFC last year.

The Bills have won 2 of their last 3 in Arrowhead and they’re ready to make it 3 of the last 4.

Let’s go mighty Buffalo Bills! �� �� ��

The Bills are OVER before they ever even were. They lost the most important TWO at ARROWHEAD, and that's all that matters. They're not even going to win their division, never mind the AFC.

Bills fan...ROFL

[Bearcat]

This is the thread Bills fans need right now.

It’s time to burn it all down (https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/248763-it%E2%80%99s-time-to-burn-it-all-down/)

Team sucks. (https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/248750-team-sucks/)

Hangover? (https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/248771-hangover/)

Trouble in paradise? (https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/248722-trouble-in-paradise/)


I lol'd at the tasteless 'heart is not in it' joke though.

[Shag]

- Drafted Kincaid, who is our Kelce


ROFL

In that case, Chiefs picked up Richie James, who is our Diggs.

[staylor26]

ROFL

In that case, Chiefs picked up Richie James, who is our Diggs.

Yea what a fucking load of shit.

The Chiefs got our next Tamba Hali, Mitchell Schwartz, and Dwayne Bowe.

[mr. tegu]

Heard this the past four seasons.


Other than everything I said being factual, nobody was predicting they wouldn’t make the playoffs. This year is different though.

They will compete for three wild card spots with the Chargers, all three non AFC North winners, Titans (maybe), Jets, and Dolphins. 7 teams for three spots. The Bills are broken so it won’t be them. They still can’t move on from previous playoff losses. Probably why for three straight years their playoff performances have declined. Can’t handle the pressure. It’s going to culminate in a final collapse this season.

That said, I would rather they make the playoffs and take the next step, which for them and their trajectory is a wild card exit, to increase the likelihood of McDermott sticking around. I don’t want them firing him anytime soon.

[Direckshun]

I think there are four teams with the ability to win the AFC this year. Chiefs, Bengals, Bills, Jets.

But at the same time, two of the divisions are just going to be unbelievably brutal. Like, I think the Bills are pound for pound a top 3 team in the NFL this year, but they may not even win their division with the Jets and Dolphins in it. The Bengals will probably win the north? But the Steelers are going to be stingy bastards this year, and if Lamar can stay healthy for one season in his freaking career, the Ravens will be irritating.

[RealSNR]

Heard this the past four seasons.

You've heard it the past four seasons because the Bills keep doing jack shit to actually fix those fucking problems.

And when they do fix a problem, they do it by giving a 5 year mega millions deal to old fart Von Miller

[JustDíqLix]

I think there are four teams with the ability to win the AFC this year. Chiefs, Bengals, Bills, Jets.

But at the same time, two of the divisions are just going to be unbelievably brutal. Like, I think the Bills are pound for pound a top 3 team in the NFL this year, but they may not even win their division with the Jets and Dolphins in it. The Bengals will probably win the north? But the Steelers are going to be stingy bastards this year, and if Lamar can stay healthy for one season in his freaking career, the Ravens will be irritating.

2023 Jets = 2022 Broncos

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Taking the AFC where?

Disney World?

Belize?

[KC_Lee]

Taking the AFC where?

Disney World?

Belize?

Out for wings and a Saber's game.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

The Bills will be lucky to keep Allen healthy with that shitty OLine... This may be the year Allen becomes Cam Newton and takes one hit too many...

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Out for wings and a Saber's game.

Have you seen the cost of wings?

The Bills will need more New York money to cover that.

[mlyonsd]

2023 Jets = 2022 Broncos

Jets season will be over when Rodgers goes into his first pout.

[FlaChief58]

Diqlix is ready!

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[Stryker]

Hmmm, The Bills win the AFC? Miami will see that, that won't happen let alone the Bengals, Jags or Chiefs. Keep on diving on those tables - I call that "Therapy." :thumb:

[Sassy Squatch]

Are you ready for some football!?

I know I am!

With that, I am here to make a proclamation!

The mighty Bills from Buffalo will take the AFC this year.

For two decades I watched people say the Patriots window was closed, that their time was dwindling, that it was all over… seemingly every time those predictions happened, the Patriots went and won another Super Bowl.

A lot of doom talk simply because we lost to the Bengals in the playoffs. Let us not forget that the Bills watched their brother DIE on the field just a few weeks prior. Their heart was simply not in it. If it had been, the Bills would have captured the AFC last year.

The Bills have won 2 of their last 3 in Arrowhead and they’re ready to make it 3 of the last 4.

Let’s go mighty Buffalo Bills! 🦬 🦬 🦬
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[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Are you ready for some football!?

I know I am!

With that, I am here to make a proclamation!

The mighty Bills from Buffalo will take the AFC this year.

For two decades I watched people say the Patriots window was closed, that their time was dwindling, that it was all over… seemingly every time those predictions happened, the Patriots went and won another Super Bowl.

A lot of doom talk simply because we lost to the Bengals in the playoffs. Let us not forget that the Bills watched their brother DIE on the field just a few weeks prior. Their heart was simply not in it. If it had been, the Bills would have captured the AFC last year.

The Bills have won 2 of their last 3 in Arrowhead and they’re ready to make it 3 of the last 4.

Let’s go mighty Buffalo Bills! 🦬 🦬 🦬

If the Bills' hearts weren't in, then how did the team win a playoff game the previous week?

Or a regular season game before that?

[Kman34]

This guy is dead..
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[tx4chiefs]

I'm from Buffalo, NY and I've watched the Bills choke year after year. Even when they make it to the Super Bowl, they Super CHOKE!

[Stryker]

https://benton.uconn.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/2454/2020/10/2002.22_Wojnarowicz.jpg

OMG! PLEASE CLAY! Photo shop a plastic table the buffalos are landing on! ROFL

[Bowser]

Are you ready for some football!?

I know I am!

With that, I am here to make a proclamation!

The mighty Bills from Buffalo will take the AFC this year.

For two decades I watched people say the Patriots window was closed, that their time was dwindling, that it was all over… seemingly every time those predictions happened, the Patriots went and won another Super Bowl.

A lot of doom talk simply because we lost to the Bengals in the playoffs. Let us not forget that the Bills watched their brother DIE on the field just a few weeks prior. Their heart was simply not in it. If it had been, the Bills would have captured the AFC last year.

The Bills have won 2 of their last 3 in Arrowhead and they’re ready to make it 3 of the last 4.

Let’s go mighty Buffalo Bills! 🦬 🦬 🦬

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[tredadda]

2023 Jets = 2022 Broncos

LMAO No. The 2023 Jets have talent and are led by a four time MVP. The Broncos had minimal talent and an overrated QB who has never even come close to MVP.

[tredadda]

Are you ready for some football!?

I know I am!

With that, I am here to make a proclamation!

The mighty Bills from Buffalo will take the AFC this year.

For two decades I watched people say the Patriots window was closed, that their time was dwindling, that it was all over… seemingly every time those predictions happened, the Patriots went and won another Super Bowl.

A lot of doom talk simply because we lost to the Bengals in the playoffs. Let us not forget that the Bills watched their brother DIE on the field just a few weeks prior. Their heart was simply not in it. If it had been, the Bills would have captured the AFC last year.

The Bills have won 2 of their last 3 4 in Arrowhead and they’re ready to make it 3 of the last 4.

Let’s go mighty Buffalo Bills! 🦬 🦬 🦬

FYP

[tredadda]

I was wondering what I should watch tonight and was debating between the 13 second game and last year’s SB. Both are equally joyful.

[DrunkBassGuitar]

The fight to be the first person to bump this thread in January is going to look like a Walmart on black Friday

[Molitoth]

If for some reason the Chiefs don't make it, I'll be rooting on your Bills to kick the shit out of the Bengals. I hate that fanbase with a passion.

[HC_Chief]

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[digger]

This is what happens when you go to 4 Super Bowls and blow them all...

[JustDíqLix]

If for some reason the Chiefs don't make it, I'll be rooting on your Bills to kick the shit out of the Bengals. I hate that fanbase with a passion.

It’ll be Bills v Chiefs in AFCCG.

In Arrowhead, since the Bills have a tough division to deal with.

Bills love Arrowhead though.

[Spott]

It’ll be Bills v Chiefs in AFCCG.

In Arrowhead, since the Bills have a tough division to deal with.

Bills love Arrowhead though.

Especially in January. :)

[wazu]

It’ll be Bills v Chiefs in AFCCG.

In Arrowhead, since the Bills have a tough division to deal with.

Bills love Arrowhead though.

Does it kind of suck that you believe this but the players don't?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: All-Pro wide receiver Stefon Diggs reportedly wants to be TRADED from the Buffalo <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a>, sources tell Stephen A. Smith of ESPN. <br><br>“He don&#39;t want to be in Buffalo no more. He would prefer to be gone”<br><br>“He has lost a level of belief” in the team.<br><br>😳😳😳 <a href="https://t.co/6LFJftLUMt">pic.twitter.com/6LFJftLUMt</a></p>&mdash; MLFootball (@_MLFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/_MLFootball/status/1693666460264956100?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[BryanBusby]

Bills will be widly underwhelming as a one and done Wild Card team IMO

Either Beane or Sean get fired.

Diggs is sent to Carolina in the spring and the rebuild begins.

[FlaChief58]

Does it kind of suck that you believe this but the players don't?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: All-Pro wide receiver Stefon Diggs reportedly wants to be TRADED from the Buffalo <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a>, sources tell Stephen A. Smith of ESPN. <br><br>“He don&#39;t want to be in Buffalo no more. He would prefer to be gone”<br><br>“He has lost a level of belief” in the team.<br><br>😳😳😳 <a href="https://t.co/6LFJftLUMt">pic.twitter.com/6LFJftLUMt</a></p>&mdash; MLFootball (@_MLFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/_MLFootball/status/1693666460264956100?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MLFOOTBALL?

[HemiEd]

Sure.

Bills had an under-the-radar great off-season.

- Drafted Kincaid, who is our Kelce
- Bolstered our o-line with OTorrence and McGovern.
- Got our All-Pro safety back from injury
- Got new toys for Allen, in Harty and Sherfield

:LOL:ROFL So a rookie is already heading to the HOF? Is going to be as good as possibly the best ever? Thank you for the laugh, hilarious.

Just like every season, it is every fans right to be optimistic with no losses yet, but at least be somewhat realistic. ROFL

[Rainbarrel]

Fairydust, Unicorn farts & Allenesia

Bills Nation-

Born to late for Montana
Born to young for Brady
Born just right for Josh Allen

[Titty Meat]

OP will take dick this season

[Rainbarrel]

Time for the Bills to become Lamar's bitch

[Kiimo]

Daboll is gone and his replacement sucks. Between getting bartenders pregnant your QB is bangin your WR1's ex and making him want to leave. When your mom got body slammed on a table a dildo with Tom Brady's face shot out of her cooch and hit you the temple giving you a concussion.

[EPodolak]

Bills might get a wildcard, then break furniture when they lose to the Jags or Chargers.

[MahomesMagic]

Sure.

Bills had an under-the-radar great off-season.

- Drafted Kincaid, who is our Kelce
- Bolstered our o-line with OTorrence and McGovern.
- Got our All-Pro safety back from injury
- Got new toys for Allen, in Harty and Sherfield

Your GM paid for some dog shit.

[MahomesMagic]

Daboll is gone and his replacement sucks. Between getting bartenders pregnant your QB is bangin your WR1's ex and making him want to leave. When your mom got body slammed on a table a dildo with Tom Brady's face shot out of her cooch and hit you the temple giving you a concussion.

Daboll put Buffalo on the map.

It's nowhere to go but down as their new OC continues to put in his own crappy playbook.

[FloridaMan88]

DiqLicker still hanging regular season victories next to his commemorative Hamlin prosthetic heart.

Did you get a refund back from the hotel/flights you presumptuously booked in Atlanta for the AFC Championship Game before Cincy curb stomped your fraud team?

[big nasty kcnut]

If you still want to post here stay off the drugs

[Why Not?]

DiqLicker still hanging regular season victories next to his commemorative Hamlin prosthetic heart.


I feel guilty for how hard I laughed at this.

[thabear04]

I’m ready for the seasom whatever that is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[TribalElder]

Bummer for shane ray's comeback tour

[suzzer99]

Mahomes broke Diggs the way Elway broke us.

[Talisman]

The mighty Bills from Buffalo will take the AFC this year.





The only AFC trophy your team will be lifting will be the Always Fucking Choking participation ribbon.

[rfaulk34]

If for some reason the Chiefs don't make it, I'll be rooting on your Bills to kick the shit out of the Bengals. I hate that fanbase with a passion.

You shut your whore mouth!

[Easy 6]

Pretty sure you meant to say Buffalo is currently laid up in the fancy hotel room, waiting on room service... those clowns are still collecting trophies they haven't earned yet

[JPH83]

If for some reason the Chiefs don't make it, I'll be rooting on your Bills to kick the shit out of the Bengals. I hate that fanbase with a passion.

Same. As stupid as this OP is rhe Bengals are FAR worse. Cannot fathom why CP doesn't reserve it's hatred for them over the Bills.

[Bump]

the madden curse is making a comeback for Josh Allen.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Heard this the past four seasons.

You should listen.

In the last 3 playoffs you’ve gone from getting blown out in the AFC Title Game to getting blown out in the Divisional round.

Prediction: You’ll get blown out in the wildcard round this year on the road. And no playoffs for following season. Salary cap hell is right around the corner come 2024.

This is the direction your team is trending. You’ve been replaced by the Bengals as the ‘team to challenge KC’. Accept it. It’ll make this season so much easier for you and your fanbase.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

I'm not even sure they'll win their division. LMAO

[Rainbarrel]

The only thing to bet on the Bills. Is the scape goat of '23

[cabletech94]

Oh man!!

I remember my first beer.

[duncan_idaho]

The Bills take the AFC title of “Most Disappointing 2023 team”

Is that what you meant to say? Because I’m in 100 percent agreement.

Their defense isn’t going to get to feast on shitty QB and offensive play this year.

When they go 10-7, make the wildcard round, and lose on the road to the 3 seed, don’t forget you heard it here first.

[Bearcat]

Same. As stupid as this OP is rhe Bengals are FAR worse. Cannot fathom why CP doesn't reserve it's hatred for them over the Bills.

Yeah, but rfaulk >>>> diqlix

I think Bills fans are worse because the Bengals have actually beaten the Chiefs when it matters. Hell, I don't remember Bengals fans even existing before they won the AFFCG... they won and they were pretty damn gloaty about it. But.. they earned it first.

Even if that stings more due to the AFFCG loss, Bills fans have acted like they've owned the Chiefs since prior to the first playoff match up and have been obnoxious as hell about it... FFS, this clown is STILL talking like the Bills have been successful at Arrowhead and "they love Arrowhead".

It's hard to imagine he's actually a Bills fan at this point, it's so silly.

Not sure I've ever seen such an entitled fanbase throw around so much trash talk while their team accomplishes so little (insert trophy stand meme).

[tredadda]

Sure.

Bills had an under-the-radar great off-season.

- Drafted Kincaid, who is our Kelce
- Bolstered our o-line with OTorrence and McGovern.
- Got our All-Pro safety back from injury
- Got new toys for Allen, in Harty and Sherfield

You might be the only Bills fan I have seen that feels like your O-Line is "bolstered".

[Bob Dole]

Don’t stand a chance against preseason champ Chargers.

[Gravedigger]

Another year, another proclamation. We should make a sticky post of these comments, would be fun to go back and laugh at again.

[Bob Dole]

You might be the only Bills fan I have seen that feels like your O-Line is "bolstered".

I’ve heard numerous bad reports about their O-line. Josh Allen will be injured by week 3.

[Lzen]

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[AdolfOliverBush]

The mighty Bills from Buffalo will take the AFC this year.

AFC = Atrial Fibrillation Cardioversion

[Bwana]

Sure

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Let me see if I have this straight...

By drafting a few rookies with potential, signing a few mediocre FAs, and getting a quality vet back (while also losing one of their best defensive players), the Bills have vaulted ahead of a team that lost no one of significance, added rookies with potential, and signed several quality FAs.

Did I get that right?

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Best part of this is the suggestion that the Bills' "hearts weren't in it" almost two weeks after Hamlin was released from the hospital. LMAO LMAO

[FlaChief58]

Let me see if I have this straight...

By drafting a few rookies with potential, signing a few mediocre FAs, and getting a quality vet back (while also losing one of their best defensive players), the Bills have vaulted ahead of a team that lost no one of significance, added rookies with potential, and signed several quality FAs.

Did I get that right?

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[RaidersOftheCellar]

"Guys, I just don't think I can do it.....Damar DIED on the field, man!!"

"But he's alive and well now. He just texted me a joke."

"Yeah, but......I just don't think I can do it!!!"

[Peter Gibbons]

I think you mean “Bills take IT FROM the AFC this year”. Fix your post.

[tredadda]

"Guys, I just don't think I can do it.....Damar DIED on the field, man!!"

"But he's alive and well now. He just texted me a joke."

"Yeah, but......I just don't think I can do it!!!"

Perhaps they were expecting the NFL to help them "Win one for the Gipper".

[Coochie liquor]

Sure.

Bills had an under-the-radar great off-season.

- Drafted Kincaid, who is our Kelce
- Bolstered our o-line with OTorrence and McGovern.
- Got our All-Pro safety back from injury
- Got new toys for Allen, in Harty and Sherfield

Bottle of Doctor Bird Rum to the victor??

[Pepe Silvia]

The Bills will try to end the season again when they are losing a big game.

[ReynardMuldrake]

It’ll be Bills v Chiefs in AFCCG.

In Arrowhead, since the Bills have a tough division to deal with.

Bills love Arrowhead though.

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[penguinz]

Bills are more likely to miss the playoffs than win it all. Not even close.

[redfan]

Bills had plenty of chances to get something done, and look what happened. Not a thing.

[Strongside]

Bills aren't even winning that division and your head coach will be ousted after the season.

That's where my money is.

[Bearcat]

Bills had plenty of chances to get something done, and look what happened. Not a thing.

Yeah, imagine if a Titans fan showed up here or on a Bengals forum talking about taking the AFC this season and how successful they've been against SB contenders (I mean, we have Jeff Fisher, but he's obviously satire).

That's really what we're talking about here.

The Bills can have the better roster, QB, paper championships, September and October trophies... but it's easy to see here who the real contenders have been in the AFC.

Here are the (at most) most recent 3 year playoff stretches...
The big differences with the comparison is the Bengals have accomplished more in just 2 playoff seasons than the Bills have in 3, and even if it was the past 4 seasons for the Titans and Bills (not skipping the Titans' non-playoff year), you're just adding in that awful, awful playoff loss for the Bills 4 years ago, which then puts them at 4-4.

7-2, 1 SB win, 2 SB appearances, 2 AFCCG wins, 3 AFCCG appearances, 3-1 against the other 3.

5-2, 1 SB appearance, 1 AFCCG win, 2 AFCCG appearances, 3-1 against the other 3

4-3, 1 AFCCG appearance, 0-3 against the other 3

2-3, 1 AFCCG appearance, 0-2 against the other 3


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[RunKC]

Your team is old and void of enough talent DiqLick.

Bad drafting and back coaching has caught up to you. If you were smart you'd fire McDermott after this season and hire Mike Kafka who is doing a great job in NY.

[Ming the Merciless]

I proclaim thou art the mightiest reerun in the land!

[ModSocks]

Lol, this thread is going to age horribly.

[notorious]

I proclaim thou art the mightiest reerun in the land!

That's quite the accomplishment.

It's the most competitive pool known to the history of mankind.

[Rainbarrel]

Trading Allen now when they can absolutely rape a team & set themselves up for years. Allen's blueprint will only get itched deeper. Between the ears? is not the right stuff. That move is only for like 2% of the NFL ownership gamblers. That's not Buffalo

[RaidersOftheCellar]

2023 Jets = 2022 Broncos

LMAO

Sure, aside from a few minor differences. Namely, having a good QB, good coach, and a talented roster.

This prediction's going to age wonderfully!

[RaidersOftheCellar]

It’ll be Bills v Chiefs in AFCCG.

In Arrowhead, since the Bills have a tough division to deal with.

Bills love Arrowhead though.

Are they playing the AFCCG in the regular season this year?

[FloridaMan88]

Buffalo finishes 3rd in the AFC East, misses the playoffs, and McDermott is fired.

[Wallcrawler]

McDerpitt has to be on borrowed time. With all of the hype given to the Bills by the media, deserved or not, this is now a franchise with Superbowl aspirations, no matter how far detached from reality that is.

Allen is like a more athletic Jeff George. Cannon arm, empty head.

Diggs is a pouting little bitch now that things have repeatedly failed.

Their defense is not what it was during their best shot at a run, which was 13 seconds, but even then, I think Lou Anarumo is able to shut down the Bills offense and the Bengals go to the superbowl vs the Rams anyway.

Josh Allen simply is not poised and calculating enough with the game on the line. Boat racing bad teams, the guy looks like a billion dollars.

In the last game he played that mattered, this qb that is supposedly on Mahomes level threw for just 264 yards and a pick, his one touchdown coming on a 1 yard run on the way to mustering just 10 points in the playoffs.

Bills ain't taking anything from anyone this season.

[rfaulk34]

Same. As stupid as this OP is rhe Bengals are FAR worse. Cannot fathom why CP doesn't reserve it's hatred for them over the Bills.

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[Sassy Squatch]

Pretty sure the league bending over backwards to accommodate the Bills post Hamlin situation led to a large part of the acrimony

[rfaulk34]

Yeah, but rfaulk >>>> diqlix

I think Bills fans are worse because the Bengals have actually beaten the Chiefs when it matters. Hell, I don't remember Bengals fans even existing before they won the AFFCG... they won and they were pretty damn gloaty about it. But.. they earned it first.

Even if that stings more due to the AFFCG loss, Bills fans have acted like they've owned the Chiefs since prior to the first playoff match up and have been obnoxious as hell about it... FFS, this clown is STILL talking like the Bills have been successful at Arrowhead and "they love Arrowhead".

It's hard to imagine he's actually a Bills fan at this point, it's so silly.

Not sure I've ever seen such an entitled fanbase throw around so much trash talk while their team accomplishes so little (insert trophy stand meme).

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[Sassy Squatch]

Yeah, but rfaulk >>>> diqlix

I think Bills fans are worse because the Bengals have actually beaten the Chiefs when it matters. Hell, I don't remember Bengals fans even existing before they won the AFFCG... they won and they were pretty damn gloaty about it. But.. they earned it first.

Even if that stings more due to the AFFCG loss, Bills fans have acted like they've owned the Chiefs since prior to the first playoff match up and have been obnoxious as hell about it... FFS, this clown is STILL talking like the Bills have been successful at Arrowhead and "they love Arrowhead".

It's hard to imagine he's actually a Bills fan at this point, it's so silly.

Not sure I've ever seen such an entitled fanbase throw around so much trash talk while their team accomplishes so little (insert trophy stand meme).
He also engages far better. Daquix or whatever name he goes by is just strange. Rfaulk will actually have a legit conversation if you're chatting outside of football, and he's capable of both dishing and taking abuse. As far as rival fans go, he's pretty far up there.

[Pablo]

Yeah, I'd even let rfaulk watch while I plow his wife. I send diqlix on a purple gatorade run while I bore his out.

[rfaulk34]

Yeah, I'd even let rfaulk watch while I plow his wife. I send diqlix on a purple gatorade run while I bore his out.

Don't be scared. Tell them how i plow you while you're plowing my wife.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Don't be scared. Tell them how i plow you while you're plowing my wife.

While Joey plows you?

[rfaulk34]

While Joey plows you?

Sometimes you gotta take one for the team.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Sometimes you gotta take one for the team.

I get it. The Bengals need some success.

But what’s Joey’s excuse?

[Coochie liquor]

He also engages far better. Daquix or whatever name he goes by is just strange. Rfaulk will actually have a legit conversation if you're chatting outside of football, and he's capable of both dishing and taking abuse. As far as rival fans go, he's pretty far up there.

Rfaulk is a good guy. I don’t understand why his rep is red but DiqLix is green. Rfaulk can keep up with us here at CP. Respect for him, even if he’s trolling sometimes.

[rfaulk34]

I get it. The Bengals need some success.

But what’s Joey’s excuse?

Simple. I'm a snack.

[rfaulk34]

Rfaulk is a good guy. I don’t understand why his rep is red but DiqLix is green. Rfaulk can keep up with us here at CP. Respect for him, even if he’s trolling sometimes.

When you dig yourself a really, really deep hole, it takes a while to climb out, homie. LMAO

[ThyKingdomCome15]

I don't think the Bils or any team is ready for what KC is about to dish out.

[rfaulk34]

I don't think the Bils or any team is ready for what KC is about to dish out.

I can think of one.

[Coochie liquor]

I can think of one.

But…. Your LT….

[Megatron96]

BUF is going to have a hard time winning their division if Diggs doesn't play. Never mind the AFC.

[rfaulk34]

But…. Your LT….

I was just thinking earlier today how annoying it is that the Bengals get a QB like Burrow and they just throw guys in there like 'this should do' while teams like KC, Philly, Balt and LAC try and build actual walls right away in front of their franchise QBs.

We'll see how the annual tweak goes this year...

[RealSNR]

I was just thinking earlier today how annoying it is that the Bengals get a QB like Burrow and they just throw guys in there like 'this should do' while teams like KC, Philly, Balt and LAC try and build actual walls right away in front of their franchise QBs.

We'll see how the annual tweak goes this year...

You guys ever draft any OL brah?

[Rainbarrel]

Bills take the Ass Fucking Concussion this season

-damn, that's rough

[rfaulk34]

You guys ever draft any OL brah?

Yeah, but they've been really bad at it. Really bad.

Could have re-signed Andrew Whitworth but they thought he was getting too old, so they drafted big time busts Cedic Ogbuehi and Jake Fisher in 2015 and let Whit go to LAR, play 5 more years, win a ship and stamp his ticket to Canton.

Drafted:
Billy Price in '18
Jonah Williams in '19
Jackson Carman in '21
Cordell Volson in '22

Picked up guys like Bobby Hart, Quinton Spain, Eric Winston and Cordy Glenn through FA and trades. All shit other than average play by Williams and Spain.

Last year they signed Alex Cappa and Ted Karras and they've been solid, as well as La'el Collins who's average on a good day. This year, they picked up OBj and moved Williams to RT.

This will be the "best" line (if they stay healthy) that Burrow has had and if they can just be average, i'll be happy.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Nah, us or Cincy.

[Rasputin]

13 seconds



Wide right.

[kcjoker]

Bill's fans.....

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[tredadda]

Yeah, but they've been really bad at it. Really bad.

Could have re-signed Andrew Whitworth but they thought he was getting too old, so they drafted big time busts Cedic Ogbuehi and Jake Fisher in 2015 and let Whit go to LAR, play 5 more years, win a ship and stamp his ticket to Canton.

Drafted:
Billy Price in '18
Jonah Williams in '19
Jackson Carman in '21
Cordell Volson in '22

Picked up guys like Bobby Hart, Quinton Spain, Eric Winston and Cordy Glenn through FA and trades. All shit other than average play by Williams and Spain.

Last year they signed Alex Cappa and Ted Karras and they've been solid, as well as La'el Collins who's average on a good day. This year, they picked up OBj and moved Williams to RT.

This will be the "best" line (if they stay healthy) that Burrow has had and if they can just be average, i'll be happy.

That's a name I have not heard in an age.

[St. Patty's Fire]

feel like the bills are due for a frustrating 10-11 win season next year

[Direckshun]

feel like the bills are due for a frustrating 10-11 win season next year

Interesting analysis.

Tell me more about your feelings.

[RealSNR]

Yeah, but they've been really bad at it. Really bad.

Could have re-signed Andrew Whitworth but they thought he was getting too old, so they drafted big time busts Cedic Ogbuehi and Jake Fisher in 2015 and let Whit go to LAR, play 5 more years, win a ship and stamp his ticket to Canton.

Drafted:
Billy Price in '18
Jonah Williams in '19
Jackson Carman in '21
Cordell Volson in '22

Picked up guys like Bobby Hart, Quinton Spain, Eric Winston and Cordy Glenn through FA and trades. All shit other than average play by Williams and Spain.

Last year they signed Alex Cappa and Ted Karras and they've been solid, as well as La'el Collins who's average on a good day. This year, they picked up OBj and moved Williams to RT.

This will be the "best" line (if they stay healthy) that Burrow has had and if they can just be average, i'll be happy.
Eric Winston? Wow, Ol' Habsburg Lips, eh? That takes me back.

[duncan_idaho]

feel like the bills are due for a frustrating 10-11 win season next year

11-6 sounds about right to me.

Losses:

@Jets
@Bengals
@Eagles
@Chiefs
@Chargers
@Dolphins

Miami, Jacksonville, Dallas, and New York at home are tough matchups, too.

[KCUnited]

This Bills season is going to make Caleb Farley’s house look like Fort Knox

[rfaulk34]

That's a name I have not heard in an age.

Yep. I thought that would catch some eyes.

[Titty Meat]

Yep. I thought that would catch some eyes.

Speaking of catching eyes it's gonna sound like we're making macaroni when I get my hands on u faggot

[raybec 4]

Eric Winston? Wow, Ol' Habsburg Lips, eh? That takes me back.
Dithguthting

[Rainbarrel]

Deciding not to finish the Bengals game. Has phycologicaly, their anus and genitals changing positions.

[rfaulk34]

Speaking of catching eyes it's gonna sound like we're making macaroni when I get my hands on u bundle of sticks

Boy, you couldn't crack one of these bones if i layed down and let you run over me. I'll put a wrist lock on you and have you on the ground so fast, you'll need slowmo instant replay to realize what happened.

[Hammock Parties]

You fucking moron. THIS was your offseason:

Fire elite DC. ✅
Piss off elite WR. ✅
Fix the O-line. ❌
Replace MLB. ❌
Find a CB2. ❌
Add weapons for Allen. ✅
Lose kick returner to Jetski assault. ✅
Lose top backup at OT. ✅

Congrats. You got a rookie TE. The Lamar Hunt Trophy will be yours any day now!

Dipshit. If you go break a table with your giant ass RIGHT NOW you might make this season memorable, because you'll fuck that up too and end up in the hospital for months, watching the Bills lose the AFC East to the Jets on a tiny TV.

The only thing the Bills will be "taking" this season, is Chief DICK. RIGHT UP THE ASS.

[lewdog]

Hey OP, what's the difference between Jelly and Jam?

......................................


The Chiefs can't jelly a cock up the Bills ass!!!!!

[cabletech94]

That's a name I have not heard in an age.

“Thickening”

[Hammock Parties]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">��️<a href="https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chris_Broussard</a>: &quot;I feel like between Sean McDermott and Josh Allen the Buffalo Bills don&#39;t have great leadership, and their lack of that is what could end up costing them.&quot;<br><br>w/<a href="https://twitter.com/BuckyBrooks?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BuckyBrooks</a> <a href="https://t.co/o82xKh2jR0">pic.twitter.com/o82xKh2jR0</a></p>&mdash; FOX Sports Radio (@FoxSportsRadio) <a href="https://twitter.com/FoxSportsRadio/status/1694158877124952456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

13 seconds was the peak LMAO

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[Iowanian]

The only thing Buffalo wins besides 10 games this year is "most dildos on the field".

I mean, that's 2 trophies. One for the dildos playing for Buffalo...and the other for the ones your dads smuggle into the stadium in their prison pocket.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

When you think about it, it's pretty insulting to even compare Allen to Mahomes at this point.

1) Allen was flat garbage until Diggs. Mahomes has been great since day 1.
2) Allen is a fumble/pick machine. Mahomes is one of the least mistake-prone (good) QBs in history.
3) Mahomes is a 2 time champ/2 time MVP/2 time SB MVP. Allen's most notable achievement to date is coming within 13 seconds of beating Mahomes in the divisional round.

[Rainbarrel]

A team left feeling like a bunch of shitty pussies. Is no easy fix, when confidence is half the battle

[Monty]

When you think about it, it's pretty insulting to even compare Allen to Mahomes at this point.

1) Allen was flat garbage until Diggs. Mahomes has been great since day 1.
2) Allen is a fumble/pick machine. Mahomes is one of the least mistake-prone (good) QBs in history.
3) Mahomes is a 2 time champ/2 time MVP/2 time SB MVP. Allen's most notable achievement to date is coming within 13 seconds of beating Mahomes in the divisional round.

This sums things up very well. :thumb:

[Rasputin]

Eric Winston? Wow, Ol' Habsburg Lips, eh? That takes me back.

Thickening discuthing

[JustDíqLix]

Yeah, but rfaulk >>>> diqlix

Ouch. That hurts.

FFS, this clown is STILL talking like the Bills have been successful at Arrowhead and "they love Arrowhead".

Did I dream that the Bills have won 2 of their last 3 at Arrowhead?

Sure you can wash those wins away by saying they didn’t happen in the playoffs… but they still happened at Arrowhead!

[JustDíqLix]

It’s funny to me how ONE game changes everyone’s perception.

The Bills held the #1 Seed in the AFC, with a 13-3 record, and the best odds to win the Super Bowl, prior to Hamlin going down last year.

They lose ONE GAME, and now all of a sudden they’re shit?

Interesting take.

Let’s see how it plays out…

[JustDíqLix]

When you think about it, it's pretty insulting to even compare Allen to Mahomes at this point.

1) Allen was flat garbage until Diggs. Mahomes has been great since day 1.
2) Allen is a fumble/pick machine. Mahomes is one of the least mistake-prone (good) QBs in history.
3) Mahomes is a 2 time champ/2 time MVP/2 time SB MVP. Allen's most notable achievement to date is coming within 13 seconds of beating Mahomes in the divisional round.

Mahomes is definitely better.

No argument there.

Id pick Mahomes #1 in league redraft and Allen #2.

But comparing from the beginning isn’t going to work, because Allen admittedly sucked his rookie year.

But what about lately?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NFL&#39;s top young QB&#39;s over last 40 games:<br><br>Allen: 12,475 yards, 105 TD&#39;s, 32 INT<br>Mahomes: 13,213 yards, 100 TD&#39;s, 29 INT<br>Burrow: 11,184 yards, 88 TD&#39;s, 29 INT<br>Murray: 11,786 yards, 83 TD&#39;s, 29 INT<br>Jackson: 10,417 yards, 71 TD&#39;s, 29 INT<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bengals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bengals</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cardinals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cardinals</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ravens?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Ravens</a> <a href="https://t.co/8sOWGG5LP9">pic.twitter.com/8sOWGG5LP9</a></p>&mdash; Bills Stats &amp; More (@Tickets_Buffalo) <a href="https://twitter.com/Tickets_Buffalo/status/1605026050844807168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Hammock Parties]

Lately he led the league in turnovers and got his ass caved in at home in a home playoff game.

Lately, he's fucking Vinny Testaverde with wheels.

Stay in your fucking lane. You should be thrilled drafting Josh Allen has brought you a new stadium, because that old one was starting to smell like rancid buffalo wings. Anything else is gravy.

[duncan_idaho]

Mahomes is definitely better.

No argument there.

Id pick Mahomes #1 in league redraft and Allen #2.

But comparing from the beginning isn’t going to work, because Allen admittedly sucked his rookie year.

But what about lately?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NFL&#39;s top young QB&#39;s over last 40 games:<br><br>Allen: 12,475 yards, 105 TD&#39;s, 32 INT<br>Mahomes: 13,213 yards, 100 TD&#39;s, 29 INT<br>Burrow: 11,184 yards, 88 TD&#39;s, 29 INT<br>Murray: 11,786 yards, 83 TD&#39;s, 29 INT<br>Jackson: 10,417 yards, 71 TD&#39;s, 29 INT<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bengals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bengals</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cardinals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cardinals</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ravens?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Ravens</a> <a href="https://t.co/8sOWGG5LP9">pic.twitter.com/8sOWGG5LP9</a></p>&mdash; Bills Stats &amp; More (@Tickets_Buffalo) <a href="https://twitter.com/Tickets_Buffalo/status/1605026050844807168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What's with the weird game number? There's no reason to cut that at 40 games, unless you're trying to game the stats and find the best comparison for the guy you're trying to spotlight.

Let's look at it since Allen got Diggs (2020, right?)

Allen:
49 games 65.2% completions, 7.4 Y/A, 11.4 Y/C, 15,180 combined yards, 129 TDs, 85 sacks for 485 yards (Net 14,695 yards), 61 turnovers

Mahomes:
49 games, 66.6% completions, 7.8 Y/A, 11.8 Y/C, 15,310 combined yards, 124 TDs, 76 sacks for 481 yards (Net 14, 829 yards), 42 turnovers

So literally the only edge Allen has in that comparison is in total TDs, by 5 (he has more rushing yards but fewer passing yards and fewer combined yards). And the Bills are using him as a runner, especially in the red zone... which is one reason his fumble count is higher. And isn't good for the longevity of a QB.

[RunKC]

It’s funny to me how ONE game changes everyone’s perception.

The Bills held the #1 Seed in the AFC, with a 13-3 record, and the best odds to win the Super Bowl, prior to Hamlin going down last year.

They lose ONE GAME, and now all of a sudden they’re shit?

Interesting take.

Let’s see how it plays out…

You guys really need Rousseau to take a big step this year bc Von is coming off another major knee injury at 34. And I have no idea why the **** you guys paid Ed Oliver. Makes zero sense.

AFC East isn't a cake walk anymore. The Jets finally have a top end QB with weapons to go with that top 5 defense and the Dolphins getting Vic Fangio might be the biggest off-season addition in the league.

[Bearcat]

*flips page of football season guide*

Ah, the part where diqlix spams the board with Josh Allen stat tweets and shows CP how little he knows about football while trying to convince us that a team not winning Super Bowls is actually more impressive than a team that does.

[tredadda]

It’s funny to me how ONE game changes everyone’s perception.

The Bills held the #1 Seed in the AFC, with a 13-3 record, and the best odds to win the Super Bowl, prior to Hamlin going down last year.

They lose ONE GAME, and now all of a sudden they’re shit?

Interesting take.

Let’s see how it plays out…

Probably because your O-line situation hasn’t been fixed, your 2nd year corner (Elam) is trending the wrong way, your other CB, White isn’t performing at the level he should, you still have no replacement for Edmunds, your safeties are not getting any younger, your running game is still suspect, Diggs is unhappy and you lack a solid #2 WR. The only place you upgraded was TE. Your division will also be more difficult as will your schedule.

[Hammock Parties]

look at this desperation

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bills HC Sean McDermott says QB Josh Allen and the starters will play Saturday against the Bears.</p>&mdash; Joe Buscaglia (@JoeBuscaglia) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBuscaglia/status/1694728223538766280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 24, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Chris Meck]

Ouch. That hurts.



Did I dream that the Bills have won 2 of their last 3 at Arrowhead?

Sure you can wash those wins away by saying they didn’t happen in the playoffs… but they still happened at Arrowhead!
Ah, but when it really mattered...13 seconds.

Go get your shinebox.

[KCUnited]

*flips page of football season guide*

Ah, the part where diqlix spams the board with Josh Allen stat tweets and shows CP how little he knows about football while trying to convince us that a team not winning Super Bowls is actually more impressive than a team that does.

Its like clockwork every season

Mahomes is better but....

https://i.imgur.com/U5nSXdU.jpg

[FightingKnight05]

When you think about it, it's pretty insulting to even compare Allen to Mahomes at this point.

1) Allen was flat garbage until Diggs. Mahomes has been great since day 1.
2) Allen is a fumble/pick machine. Mahomes is one of the least mistake-prone (good) QBs in history.
3) Mahomes is a 2 time champ/2 time MVP/2 time SB MVP. Allen's most notable achievement to date is coming within 13 seconds of beating Mahomes in the divisional round.

Hi, My name is Shelia and I'm Diclix little sister. Just thought I would add that Mahomes came into the league playing with Hill, one of the best and fastest wr's in the league, and Kelce, the best TE in the game. Allen came into the leauge with Zay Jones as his number 1 target and overrated Charles Clay as his TE. He didn't get to throw to Diggs until 2020 and yet put up remarkable numbers his 2nd season as a starter with John friggen Brown as his #1 target.
Just putting your #1 point into a more proper perspective.
Carry on!

[Sassy Squatch]

It’s funny to me how ONE game changes everyone’s perception.

The Bills held the #1 Seed in the AFC, with a 13-3 record, and the best odds to win the Super Bowl, prior to Hamlin going down last year.

They lose ONE GAME, and now all of a sudden they’re shit?

Interesting take.

Let’s see how it plays out…
Sure, if you want to hand wave away the huge step back your team took midseason and their absolutely wretched close to it.

Bengals looked poised to beat the brakes off of you until Hamlin went down.
Patriots were giving you fits until WELL into the second half.
Dolphins almost eliminated you wild card weekend with fucking Skylar Thompson at QB.
Bengals came to your house and figuratively slammed you through every table in a 50 mile vicinity of that stadium.

[Hammock Parties]

Hi, My name is Shelia...he didn't get to throw to Diggs until 2020 and yet put up remarkable numbers his 2nd season as a starter with John friggen Brown as his #1 target.

Just putting your #1 point into a more proper perspective.

Carry on!

Sheila, you don't know anything about football.

Josh Allen threw for 3,000 yards and 20 TD in his second season. That is awful.

Now get back in the kitchen and make me a sandwich, bitch.

[FightingKnight05]

HI there Hammock!! He also ran for over 500 yards and had 9 rushing td's on the season. Would have loved to have seen the script flipped with Josh entering the league with Hill and Kelce and Patty entering the league with Zay and Clay. Just food for thought.
What would you like on your sandwich?

[Bearcat]

What would you like on your sandwich?

I'll take a little of whatever you were putting on your sandwiches when you wrote this, and side of fuck pie.

shoo shoo me nasties and dookie me streets, this game should be a real great treat!!! may the best team win and no injuries. yaaaaaaaaaaaaas. shoo shoo me naties and away me goes!!!!!!

[FightingKnight05]

I'll take a little of whatever you were putting on your sandwiches when you wrote this, and side of **** pie.

Always best to put it all in proper perspective when someone makes blanket statements like the one I called Hammock out for making.
Doo doo me trousers!!!

[JustDíqLix]

You guys really need Rousseau to take a big step this year bc Von is coming off another major knee injury at 34. And I have no idea why the **** you guys paid Ed Oliver. Makes zero sense.

Agree with you on all points. Rousseau has shown flashes but has been far more JAG than anything else. Von Miller was incredible last year. If he can be that again this year, I’m confident in the d-line. As for why we paid Oliver instead of Edmunds, your guess is as good as mine. It is mind boggling.

We also signed Leonard Floyd as Von Miller insurance.

Probably because your O-line situation hasn’t been fixed, your 2nd year corner (Elam) is trending the wrong way, your other CB, White isn’t performing at the level he should, you still have no replacement for Edmunds, your safeties are not getting any younger, your running game is still suspect, Diggs is unhappy and you lack a solid #2 WR. The only place you upgraded was TE. Your division will also be more difficult as will your schedule.

The o-line is fixed. Have a pro-bowler at LT and C. We signed Connor McGovern, who is a good guard, to play LG. He is also a great asset because he can play either guard position as well as center. We also drafted O’Cyrus Torrence, who had a first round grade, in the second round, to be our RG.

The only iffy linemen we have left is RT Spencer Brown.

Elam played well in the playoffs but was bad in the regular season. I don’t know what to expect from him.

Diggs said he completely fine and that the Stephen A Smith source was made up. To quote Diggs “100% not true” and said he wants to retire in Buffalo.

Davis is our #2 and is a good player. You should know that. He has 5 TD’s in his last two games against the Chiefs.

And as you mentioned we added a stud TE in Dalton Kincaid.

I’m worried about MLB but it’s impossible to say the Bills didn’t get better. This is a better roster than last year, and we already went 13-3 last season.

[Hammock Parties]

HI there Hammock!! He also ran for over 500 yards and had 9 rushing td's on the season. Would have loved to have seen the script flipped with Josh entering the league with Hill and Kelce and Patty entering the league with Zay and Clay. Just food for thought.
What would you like on your sandwich?

Nothing about his season was "remarkable." Please learn something about football other than how great Joshie's butt cheeks look in tight pants.

[mr. tegu]

Allen has only had 26 games (post season included), or 31% of games, in which the opponent scored 24 points or more. 9-17 overall in those games. 0-7 before 2020. So 9-10 after 2020. 2-3 post season.

Burrow has had 18 games (post season included), 37% of games, where the opponent scores 24 points or more. He is 7-11 and 1-0 in the post season.

Mahomes has had a remarkable 57 games (post season included), or 61% of games, in which the opponent scored at least 24 points. That’s nuts. His record is a ridiculous 30-17, 5-3 in the post season.

One of these guys is so far above the others that the gap between him and them is greater than the gap between those other two and those below them on the pecking order.

[FightingKnight05]

Nothing about his season was "remarkable." Please learn something about football other than how great Joshie's butt cheeks look in tight pants.

Taking your team to the playoffs surrounded by that shit show on offense isn't remarkable? You have really high standards I see!! Would have love to have seen what Paddy would have done with that crew!

[notorious]

This is the part when it gets really good:

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/237829-2nd-half-thread-bills-chiefs-2022-divisional-round-playoffs/page/134/

Is 13 seconds too much?????

And then turns into great:

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/237829-2nd-half-thread-bills-chiefs-2022-divisional-round-playoffs/page/138/

And then it becomes legendary:

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/237829-2nd-half-thread-bills-chiefs-2022-divisional-round-playoffs/page/158/

It's as if millions of tables suddenly cried out in terror, then suddenly cracks.

[duncan_idaho]

The o-line is fixed. Have a pro-bowler at LT and C. We signed Connor McGovern, who is a good guard, to play LG. We also drafted O’Cyrus Torrence, who had a first round grade, in the second round, to be our RG.

The only iffy linemen we have left is RT Spencer Brown.

Elam played well in the playoffs but was bad in the regular season. I don’t know what to expect from him.

Diggs said he completely fine and that the Stephen A Smith source was made up. To quote Diggs “100% not true” and said he wants to retire in Buffalo.

Davis is our #2 and is a good player. You should know that. He has 5 TD’s in his last two games against the Chiefs.

And as you mentioned we added a stud TE in Dalton Kincaid.

I’m worried about MLB but it’s impossible to say the Bills didn’t get better. This is a better roster than last year, and we already went 13-3 last season.

Dawkins has been terrible in the preseason and is average at best when healthy. McGovern is a nice add, but the rookie guard has looked overmatched at times (and his first-round grade was draftnik nonsense). Brown was bad last year and has been bad in preseason action.

Elam played well in the playoffs? Was that while the Bengals cut through your defense like a regular wear-and-tear through Von Miller's knee? Or are you talkiing about how he performed against noted JAG Skylar fucking Thompson?

Gabe Davis has a bad case of dickhand-itis and most of your fans are frustrated they didn't upgrade #2 WR. Or #3 WR. Or #4 WR. I get it.

But congrats on Gabe Davis having a great playoff game against a bunch of guys the Chiefs immediately kicked to the curb and replaced.

Kincaid could be a really nice add if he bucks the usual TE Year 1 disappointing performance, and the Bills use more 2 TE sets.

But yeah, no upgrades on the DL (other than hoping Miller comes back quickly and is 100 percent). Secondary is exactly the same, just older. LB is worse, by a significant amount.

The Bills are probably better at TE (again, relies on 2 TE sets or Kincaid playing over Knox and Kincaid bucking rookie TE trends) and are better at LG.

[Coochie liquor]

Hi, My name is Shelia and I'm Diclix little sister. Just thought I would add that Mahomes came into the league playing with Hill, one of the best and fastest wr's in the league, and Kelce, the best TE in the game. Allen came into the leauge with Zay Jones as his number 1 target and overrated Charles Clay as his TE. He didn't get to throw to Diggs until 2020 and yet put up remarkable numbers his 2nd season as a starter with John friggen Brown as his #1 target.
Just putting your #1 point into a more proper perspective.
Carry on!

Hey Sheila…. Eat a fucking bag of dicks after you’re done defending your retarded fag brothers bruised ego.

[Hammock Parties]

Taking your team to the playoffs surrounded by that shit show on offense isn't remarkable? You have really high standards I see!! Would have love to have seen what Paddy would have done with that crew!

You know absolutely nothing about football, "Sheila," if that's even your real name.

The Bills had the #2 defense and the #8 running game that season.

That's a better defense and running game than Patrick Mahomes has EVER played with, by a long shot.

The rest of the Bills dragged Josh Allen's shitty performance to the playoffs that year. And he got bounced in the first round in true shitty Josh Allen fashion.

Go wash the dishes.

[FightingKnight05]

This is the part when it gets really good:





Here is what gets me though. Bills fans on their own website talk about Mahomes with respect. Most of them even call him the best qb in the NFL, meaning they are able to see without wearing rose colored glasses. A good number of fans on your message board call Allen garbage, meat head, all kinds of nasty terms and this is nearly always unprovoked. Meaning it doesn't come because someone calls Mahomes anything other than the best QB in the game because no one every says that. Mahomes is the best in the game, period. A generational talent. But damn if someone even suggests he's helped out a lot becuase of the talent around him on the field or his coaching staff, all hell breaks loose. You realize he isn't a god, right? Just asking.
Doo doo me trousers and let's do this!!

[FightingKnight05]

Hey Sheila…. Eat a ****ing bag of dicks after you’re done defending your reeruned bundle of sticks brothers bruised ego.

munch munch munch...tasty!!!

[Bearcat]

Ah, the best roster in the NFL, another paper championship!

Are we talking mesophere this year? Thermosphere?!

[Rainbarrel]

Steve McNair projections

[FightingKnight05]

You know absolutely nothing about football, "Sheila," if that's even your real name.

The Bills had the #2 defense and the #8 running game that season.

That's a better defense and running game than Patrick Mahomes has EVER played with, by a long shot.

The rest of the Bills dragged Josh Allen's shitty performance to the playoffs that year. And he got bounced in the first round in true shitty Josh Allen fashion.

Go wash the dishes.

great point you make about the bills having the #8 running game! they were a run heavy offense with an O.line designed to run block over pass block. This goes back to the QB before Josh in Tyrod Taylor. Same olinemen, same oline coach when he was drafted. The schme was run first, run heavy then and carried over to all of 2018 and part of 2019 with Allen. He didnt' have to nor was he asked to pass for 300 yards a game like Mahomes was. He also didnt' have Hill or Kelce to throw the ball to.
I really wish I knew as much about football as you do though. Will you teach me?? :)

[JustDíqLix]

Dawkins has been terrible in the preseason and is average at best when healthy.

Where do you get this stuff?

Dawkins is a Pro-Bowler the past two seasons and a top-100 player as voted by both the players and PFF.

McGovern is a nice add, but the rookie guard has looked overmatched at times (and his first-round grade was draftnik nonsense).

When has Torrence looked overmatched? Maybe there was a play or two I didn’t see but overall he has looked very good.

Brown was bad last year and has been bad in preseason action.

He’s not good. Looks like he plays in sand. And he has a bad back.

Elam played well in the playoffs?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Buffalo&#39;s 1st round CB Kaiir Elam had a rocky season...but in their two playoff games, he allowed just 2 catches for 8 yards--and had an INT.<br><br>Some thoughts on why BUF needs him to make the leap ��<br><br>Full pod here: <a href="https://t.co/25po4Tj9rF">https://t.co/25po4Tj9rF</a><br><br>Youtube: <a href="https://t.co/T3vyGR3hgr">https://t.co/T3vyGR3hgr</a> <a href="https://t.co/h7AG5TfISs">pic.twitter.com/h7AG5TfISs</a></p>&mdash; Mina Kimes (@minakimes) <a href="https://twitter.com/minakimes/status/1661850402390962178?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Gabe Davis has a bad case of dickhand-itis and most of your fans are frustrated they didn't upgrade #2 WR. Or #3 WR. Or #4 WR. I get it.

He has had some drops but that’s why he is not a #1. He is a solid #2 without a doubt. We also added Trent Sherfield and Deonte Harty and drafted Justin Shorter, and signed Andy Isabella.

You don’t seem to know much about the Bills off-season.

But yeah, no upgrades on the DL (other than hoping Miller comes back quickly and is 100 percent).

Added Leonard Floyd to a D-line that went 13-3 last season.

Secondary is exactly the same, just older. LB is worse, by a significant amount.

Not the same, because we were down our All Pro safety last year. And his backup. And his backups backup.

But even so, that secondary went 13-3.

That’s the thing you’re missing. The Bills didn’t need to add a lot of players - the team was already stacked. But we did add players at key positions and the roster is better for it.

[staylor26]

great point you make about the bills having the #8 running game! they were a run heavy offense with an O.line designed to run block over pass block. This goes back to the QB before Josh in Tyrod Taylor. Same olinemen, same oline coach when he was drafted. The schme was run first, run heavy then and carried over to all of 2018 and part of 2019 with Allen. He didnt' have to nor was he asked to pass for 300 yards a game like Mahomes was. He also didnt' have Hill or Kelce to throw the ball to.
I really wish I knew as much about football as you do though. Will you teach me?? :)

Mahomes just won his 2nd SB, this time without Tyreek, and that's the difference you fucking dork.

[Hammock Parties]

great point you make about the bills having the #8 running game! they were a run heavy offense with an O.line designed to run block over pass block. This goes back to the QB before Josh in Tyrod Taylor. Same olinemen, same oline coach when he was drafted. The schme was run first, run heavy then and carried over to all of 2018 and part of 2019 with Allen. He didnt' have to nor was he asked to pass for 300 yards a game like Mahomes was. He also didnt' have Hill or Kelce to throw the ball to.
I really wish I knew as much about football as you do though. Will you teach me?? :)

Yes. Your team will never win shit because Josh Allen is a choke artist.

Have a great day.

[FightingKnight05]

Mahomes just won his 2nd SB, this time without Tyreek, and that's the difference you ****ing dork.

Wait a minute....you mean he won his 2nd superbowl, but still had Kelce, the best TE in the game, one of the best o.lines in the game, and the best head coach in Andy Reid??? Well he should have won the superbowl with all of that talent. *tips hat*
***We were talking about the 1st two years in the league as starting qb's, not the most recent year, btw.
doo doo me trousers!!!

[FightingKnight05]

[QUOTE=Hammock Parties;17071166]Yes. Your team will never win shit because Josh Allen is a choke artist.

Have a great day.[/QUOTE

very thoughtful post!!! Now, what do you want on that sandwich?!?

[Sassy Squatch]

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[JustDíqLix]

very thoughtful post!!! Now, what do you want on that sandwich?!?


Would you stop spamming this thread already!?

[duncan_idaho]

Where do you get this stuff?

Dawkins is a Pro-Bowler the past two seasons and a top-100 player as voted by both the players and PFF.


From lurking on your message board. And from watching Dawkins. He's fine. But not a difference maker.


When has Torrence looked overmatched?

When I've watched him in presesason. Multiple reps where he was overpowered.



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Buffalo&#39;s 1st round CB Kaiir Elam had a rocky season...but in their two playoff games, he allowed just 2 catches for 8 yards--and had an INT.<br><br>Some thoughts on why BUF needs him to make the leap ��<br><br>Full pod here: <a href="https://t.co/25po4Tj9rF">https://t.co/25po4Tj9rF</a><br><br>Youtube: <a href="https://t.co/T3vyGR3hgr">https://t.co/T3vyGR3hgr</a> <a href="https://t.co/h7AG5TfISs">pic.twitter.com/h7AG5TfISs</a></p>&mdash; Mina Kimes (@minakimes) <a href="https://twitter.com/minakimes/status/1661850402390962178?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



Again, he faced Skylar Fucking Thompson, and the Bengals had their way with the Bills. If they weren't throwing at Elam, it was because they didn't need to do it. This is a great example of a misleading stat.



He has had some drops but that’s why he is not a #1. He is a solid #2 without a doubt. We also added Trent Sherfield and Deonte Harty and drafted Justin Shorter, and signed Andy Isabella.

Sherfield, Harty, and Isabella are journeyman roster fringe guys, and you know it. Shorter was what, a fifth round pick? Yeah, major upgrade there!


Added Leonard Floyd to a D-line that went 13-3 last season.


Congrats on that 13-3 season. What did that get you, other than something to make you happy when you reference it? I remember when I used to talk about the Chiefs going 13-3 in 1995 and 2003.

Floyd has been a nice player but also has always been a 2-point stance rush backer. Most of the guys on your DL are just guys. Maybe Rousseau takes a step and Miller comes back just as good as he was before his injury. Maybe. But Floyd is not a needle mover, and neither are Oliver or Epenesa or Bashem.


Not the same, because we were down our All Pro safety last year. And his backup. And his backups backup.

But even so, that secondary went 13-3.


Both your star S are 32 years old and coming off seasons where they lost major time to injuries. At DB, the clock runs out fast. Major warning signs on them.


That’s the thing you’re missing. The Bills didn’t need to add a lot of players - the team was already stacked. But we did add players at key positions and the roster is better for it.

Like I said, you got better at LG. Maybe at RG. Minor improvements on the OL. The defense is aging rapidly and lost a key player in the middle in Edmunds.

I think you'd find few who agree the Bills improved their roster in any major way, other than Bills fans.

[staylor26]

Wait a minute....you mean he won his 2nd superbowl, but still had Kelce, the best TE in the game, one of the best o.lines in the game, and the best head coach in Andy Reid??? Well he should have won the superbowl with all of that talent. *tips hat*
***We were talking about the 1st two years in the league as starting qb's, not the most recent year, btw.
doo doo me trousers!!!

Yea, I'm sure you were saying Mahomes "should" win the SB again after they traded Tyreek! Just like everybody else!

:rolleyes:

[FightingKnight05]

Would you stop spamming this thread already!?

little brother, I came in here to help YOU out! Some of the things you are saying are either skewed or flat out lies. Dawkins is a pro bowler, yes, but he looked awful in preseason action so far (he has even admitted that himself) and showed up to camp way out of shape and overweight, even for him! All you have to do is log onto twobillsdrive and you will see post upon post of people calling him out for his dismal and uninspired play so far. The o.line is NOT fixed, not even close to being fixed. If Buffalo is lucky, it will be an average line at best. I know you are a Bills fan, as I am, but you say things that are foolish and just plain wrong. Makes me cringe to read some of your posts sometimes.

[Hammock Parties]

Now, what do you want on that sandwich?!?

I'm glad you asked.

I'm going to leave a flaming bag of Patrick Mahomes' poop on your doorstep.

Once it's done baking, you take that shit and put it on that sandwich. And feed it to your entire family.

Because that's what you're going to be doing this year. Eating Patrick's shit.

DOO DOO YA TROUSERS, BITCH!

[tredadda]

Ouch. That hurts.



Did I dream that the Bills have won 2 of their last 3 4 at Arrowhead?

Sure you can wash those wins away by saying they didn’t happen in the playoffs… but they still happened at Arrowhead!

FYP.......again.

[Sassy Squatch]

little brother, I came in here to help YOU out! Some of the things you are saying are either skewed or flat out lies. Dawkins is a pro bowler, yes, but he looked awful in preseason action so far (he has even admitted that himself) and showed up to camp way out of shape and overweight, even for him! All you have to do is log onto twobillsdrive and you will see post upon post of people calling him out for his dismal and uninspired play so far. The o.line is NOT fixed, not even close to being fixed. If Buffalo is lucky, it will be an average line at best. I know you are a Bills fan, as I am, but you say things that are foolish and just plain wrong. Makes me cringe to read some of your posts sometimes.
https://media.tenor.com/lMKjJEE2uEcAAAAM/cripple-fight-boy-scouts.gif

[Bearcat]

Would you stop spamming this thread already!?

ROFL

[FightingKnight05]

I'm glad you asked.

I'm going to leave a flaming bag of Patrick Mahomes' poop on your doorstep.

Once it's done baking, you take that shit and put it on that sandwich. And feed it to your entire family.

Because that's what you're going to be doing this year. Eating Patrick's shit.

DOO DOO YA TROUSERS, BITCH!

most excellent!!! May I please have a side of Kelce's jockstrap and a double helping of Andy's butthole as well??

[tredadda]

The o-line is fixed. Have a pro-bowler at LT and C. We signed Connor McGovern, who is a good guard, to play LG. He is also a great asset because he can play either guard position as well as center. We also drafted O’Cyrus Torrence, who had a first round grade, in the second round, to be our RG.

The only iffy linemen we have left is RT Spencer Brown.

Elam played well in the playoffs but was bad in the regular season. I don’t know what to expect from him.

Diggs said he completely fine and that the Stephen A Smith source was made up. To quote Diggs “100% not true” and said he wants to retire in Buffalo.

Davis is our #2 and is a good player. You should know that. He has 5 TD’s in his last two games against the Chiefs.

And as you mentioned we added a stud TE in Dalton Kincaid.

I’m worried about MLB but it’s impossible to say the Bills didn’t get better. This is a better roster than last year, and we already went 13-3 last season.

You don't need to convince me. What I posted is coming from YOUR fanbase. Also are they still the team nobody wants to play?

[JustDíqLix]

I think you'd find few who agree the Bills improved their roster in any major way, other than Bills fans.

With all due respect, I think you simply haven’t paid attention to the Bills off-season. It was sneaky good.

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10079955-how-2023-nfl-offseason-will-elevate-buffalo-bills-to-leagues-best-offense.amp.html

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/why-bills-quiet-offseason-can-help-super-bowl-odds/amp/

There is a reason why the Bills have the 3rd highest Super Bowl odds.

[Bearcat]

Congrats on that 13-3 season. What did that get you, other than something to make you happy when you reference it? I remember when I used to talk about the Chiefs going 13-3 in 1995 and 2003.



Still have all my AFCW Champs sweatshirts!

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Hi, My name is Shelia and I'm Diclix little sister. Just thought I would add that Mahomes came into the league playing with Hill, one of the best and fastest wr's in the league, and Kelce, the best TE in the game. Allen came into the leauge with Zay Jones as his number 1 target and overrated Charles Clay as his TE. He didn't get to throw to Diggs until 2020 and yet put up remarkable numbers his 2nd season as a starter with John friggen Brown as his #1 target.
Just putting your #1 point into a more proper perspective.
Carry on!

Was Zay Jones the reason that Allen was wildly inaccurate his first couple years?

Remarkable numbers his second year? Which numbers were remarkable?

[tredadda]

With all due respect, I think you simply haven’t paid attention to the Bills off-season. It was sneaky good.

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10079955-how-2023-nfl-offseason-will-elevate-buffalo-bills-to-leagues-best-offense.amp.html

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/why-bills-quiet-offseason-can-help-super-bowl-odds/amp/

There is a reason why the Bills have the 3rd highest Super Bowl odds.

Without me looking, who has the highest?

[Chris Meck]

With all due respect, I think you simply haven’t paid attention to the Bills off-season. It was sneaky good.

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10079955-how-2023-nfl-offseason-will-elevate-buffalo-bills-to-leagues-best-offense.amp.html

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/why-bills-quiet-offseason-can-help-super-bowl-odds/amp/

There is a reason why the Bills have the 3rd highest Super Bowl odds.

Hey, you're right. Know why that is? Because we don't give a shit about your team. Your team doesn't matter, and if KC plays well, they'll beat them. If kC doesn't play well, yeah, your team might get them. But I wouldn't count on that happening in the playoffs.

Last time, it took 13 seconds to rip your heart out.

Goddamn, that hurts, don't it?

[FightingKnight05]

Was Zay Jones the reason that Allen was wildly inaccurate his first couple years?

Remarkable numbers his second year? Which numbers were remarkable?

yes, and all of them. next!
doo doo me trousers!!

[Chris Meck]

Hey I like Josh Allen. But I think he misses Daboll. I still think he's probably QB3. I'll need Hurts to do it again before I believe it.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

It’s funny to me how ONE game changes everyone’s perception.

The Bills held the #1 Seed in the AFC, with a 13-3 record, and the best odds to win the Super Bowl, prior to Hamlin going down last year.

They lose ONE GAME, and now all of a sudden they’re shit?

Interesting take.

Let’s see how it plays out…

Of course they're not shit, and I don't think anyone actually thinks that.

Now your opinion that they should be expected to vault ahead of KC is shit.

[Rainbarrel]

They break tables so they can even eat their own Indian style

[Sassy Squatch]

Hey I like Josh Allen. But I think he misses Daboll. I still think he's probably QB3. I'll need Hurts to do it again before I believe it.
They'd been much better off if they shit canned the entire defensive staff, McDermott included, after 13 seconds and promoted Daboll.

[Chris Meck]

They'd been much better off if they shit canned the entire defensive staff, McDermott included, after 13 seconds and promoted Daboll.

I hadn't given it any thought, but I think you're right.


Why in the world would you switch up the offensive coaching staff when you have a young, elite QB and it's working?

Yep. You've convinced me.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Mahomes is definitely better.

No argument there.

Id pick Mahomes #1 in league redraft and Allen #2.

But comparing from the beginning isn’t going to work, because Allen admittedly sucked his rookie year.

But what about lately?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NFL&#39;s top young QB&#39;s over last 40 games:<br><br>Allen: 12,475 yards, 105 TD&#39;s, 32 INT<br>Mahomes: 13,213 yards, 100 TD&#39;s, 29 INT<br>Burrow: 11,184 yards, 88 TD&#39;s, 29 INT<br>Murray: 11,786 yards, 83 TD&#39;s, 29 INT<br>Jackson: 10,417 yards, 71 TD&#39;s, 29 INT<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bengals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bengals</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cardinals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cardinals</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ravens?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Ravens</a> <a href="https://t.co/8sOWGG5LP9">pic.twitter.com/8sOWGG5LP9</a></p>&mdash; Bills Stats &amp; More (@Tickets_Buffalo) <a href="https://twitter.com/Tickets_Buffalo/status/1605026050844807168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Why cut it off at 40 games, and does that include postseason?

Even during that cherry-picked timeframe, which includes Mahomes' weakest year and Allen's best years, Mahomes' numbers are still better. But the biggest difference recently has been fumbles. Mahomes almost never coughs it up and Allen is a fumble machine. Allen has twice as many fumbles, not including his rookie year.

Aside from that stretch in '21, which included a lot of bad luck and tipped/bobbled balls, Mahomes has been one of the least mistake-prone QBs ever. Meanwhile, Allen has been one of the most turnover-prone QBs in the league.

That said, I wasn't really making a stats-based argument.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

yes, and all of them. next!
doo doo me trousers!!

Is this what gets you off when you're not jumping thru tables or fingering buttholes?

[FightingKnight05]

Is this what gets you off when you're not jumping thru tables or fingering buttholes?

don't forget about sniffing our fingers after fingering those buttholes!!!
Juice me holes!!!

[JohnnyHammersticks]

The Buffalo Bills fans are going to get Buffalo Bill'd by their sorry ass team again this season. ROFL

https://i.imgur.com/gO20kHd.png

[RaidersOftheCellar]

With all due respect, I think you simply haven’t paid attention to the Bills off-season. It was sneaky good.

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10079955-how-2023-nfl-offseason-will-elevate-buffalo-bills-to-leagues-best-offense.amp.html

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/why-bills-quiet-offseason-can-help-super-bowl-odds/amp/

There is a reason why the Bills have the 3rd highest Super Bowl odds.

How do those odds support the idea that they've improved? They had the highest odds last year and were favored in every single game.

The choice of words like "quiet" and "sneaky" should tip you off that the Bills didn't add a ton during the offseason.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

don't forget about sniffing our fingers after fingering those buttholes!!!
Juice me holes!!!

You actually felt compelled to create an account for this? Your life must be pitiful even by Bills fan standards. LMAO

[Bearcat]

You actually felt compelled to create an account for this? Your life must be pitiful even by Bills fan standards. LMAO

That's actually account #5 that we're aware of.

[Megatron96]

They'd been much better off if they shit canned the entire defensive staff, McDermott included, after 13 seconds and promoted Daboll.



Their GM doesn't seem to be doing them any favors either.

[DrunkBassGuitar]

the bills are going to take the afc in that they are going to get a train ran on them by the afc

[Chris Meck]

Imagine going to another team 's forum just to try to talk shit after they won their second super bowl in four years. I mean, really?

Know why you don't see a bunch of us on your board? Because we don't care about your team.

KC, on the other hand, is clearly living rent free in your heads.

[JustDíqLix]

Imagine going to another team 's forum just to try to talk shit after they won their second super bowl in four years. I mean, really?

Know why you don't see a bunch of us on your board? Because we don't care about your team.

KC, on the other hand, is clearly living rent free in your heads.

It was meant to be a fun thread with some lighthearted smack talk.

This thread is not a dick. Try not to take it so hard.

[duncan_idaho]

With all due respect, I think you simply haven’t paid attention to the Bills off-season. It was sneaky good.

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10079955-how-2023-nfl-offseason-will-elevate-buffalo-bills-to-leagues-best-offense.amp.html

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/why-bills-quiet-offseason-can-help-super-bowl-odds/amp/

There is a reason why the Bills have the 3rd highest Super Bowl odds.

With all due respect, I don't think you understand what those articles actually are saying.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

That's actually account #5 that we're aware of.

Diqlix?

[Coochie liquor]

HI there Hammock!! He also ran for over 500 yards and had 9 rushing td's on the season. Would have loved to have seen the script flipped with Josh entering the league with Hill and Kelce and Patty entering the league with Zay and Clay. Just food for thought.
What would you like on your sandwich?

So now you’re blaming your GM on Josh’s failures? Every team in the league could have drafted Kelce or Hill multiple times. But they didn’t. Not our fault your GM is not good at his job!

[Bearcat]

Diqlix?

Don't believe so, even though diqy does use VPNs.... given the Patches one, I'd suspect Jeff Fisher is another mult, even though that persona is far less, uh, methy.

Cheifton05
Flash77
Patches
ShooMieser
Tonic55

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Wait a minute....you mean he won his 2nd superbowl, but still had Kelce, the best TE in the game, one of the best o.lines in the game, and the best head coach in Andy Reid??? Well he should have won the superbowl with all of that talent. *tips hat*
***We were talking about the 1st two years in the league as starting qb's, not the most recent year, btw.
doo doo me trousers!!!

Cracks me up that fools still pull this card.

Dude just won a SB playing on one leg throughout the entire playoffs. Won the AFCC (over the team that blew out the Bills in Buffalo) down 4 of his top 5 WRs, from a WR corps that wasn't that good to begin with.

Allen had a much better defense, one of the best WRs in the game, another really good WR, and one of the top TEs in the league.

Btw, did anyone call Reid the best coach in the league before Mahomes? Anyone?

But....but.....Mahomes had the better TE!! LMAO

[BleedingRed]

Is it wrong I keep thinking this thread was started three years ago?

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Is it wrong I keep thinking this thread was started three years ago?

Well, to be fair, the Bills fans are still stuck in a world where it's 3 years ago and they think they're about to challenge the Chiefs for AFC supremacy.

It's kind of like the guy that wakes up from the coma 3 years later not realizing a single day has passed by . . . . . .

[Rainbarrel]

Sliding down the fight card

[JustDíqLix]

Don't believe so, even though diqy does use VPNs....

To be clear, he means the real Diqy. Not me, who was simply bestowed with that username for some reason.

[Coochie liquor]

Hey I like Josh Allen. But I think he misses Daboll. I still think he's probably QB3. I'll need Hurts to do it again before I believe it.

I mean if weee going by playoff success then Allen is well below Hurts, Burrow, Stafford, Jimmy G… and obviously WAY below Mahomes!

[Coochie liquor]

To be clear, he means the real Diqy. Not me, who was simply bestowed with that username for some reason.

We got a $50 bottle of alcohol bet on who gets closer to the SB this season, BabyDix??

[RealSNR]

Y CHIEF FAN SO MEAN TO WIDDLE JOSHY

[Rasputin]

The Bills lost in the playoffs at home with snow on the ground and blamed the snow.

[Rainbarrel]

The peanut butter to jelly ratio seems less important now. Emergency breaks during games is not their best moments

[Hammock Parties]

Bills are done. Fat Josh is regressing. OL is a mess. Wild-card team. Josh catches an STD.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per PFF, Josh Allen was responsible for 50% of the pressure he saw through two games this preseason. Way up from 18.8% (10th) all of last season. It’s a small sample size, but it adds context to all of the worries a lot of Bills fans are having.</p>&mdash; Cover 1 (@Cover1) <a href="https://twitter.com/Cover1/status/1695048234844983754?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here are the two pressures Allen was responsible for. <br>1. He had Diggs on the 1 step drop<br>2. He had Diggs, but was hesitant to throw it because the defender responsible for the TE hung out underneath just long enough to deter the throw. <a href="https://t.co/Rc9lDixAnU">pic.twitter.com/Rc9lDixAnU</a></p>&mdash; Cover 1 (@Cover1) <a href="https://twitter.com/Cover1/status/1695072981536358558?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[mr. tegu]

Allen’s biggest and most glaring weakness is that he is clueless when it comes to making quick decisions and just getting it out fast. His short quick game just isn’t there and isn’t only because he always wants the big play. It’s because he can’t diagnose the defense fast enough or make accurate enough short and quick throws.

[Bearcat]

Allen’s biggest and most glaring weakness is that he is clueless when it comes to making quick decisions and just getting it out fast. His short quick game just isn’t there and isn’t only because he always wants the big play. It’s because he can’t diagnose the defense fast enough or make accurate enough short and quick throws.

Yeah, last year I really wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt and thought maybe I had blinders on for picking up on the trend of stupid shit he was doing (granted, some of it was pretty fucking stupid)... and then they almost lost to 4th string QB equipped with one of the most incompetent coaching efforts I've ever seen before completely shitting the bed at home.


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[Lzen]

Here is what gets me though. Bills fans on their own website talk about Mahomes with respect. Most of them even call him the best qb in the NFL, meaning they are able to see without wearing rose colored glasses. A good number of fans on your message board call Allen garbage, meat head, all kinds of nasty terms and this is nearly always unprovoked. Meaning it doesn't come because someone calls Mahomes anything other than the best QB in the game because no one every says that. Mahomes is the best in the game, period. A generational talent. But damn if someone even suggests he's helped out a lot becuase of the talent around him on the field or his coaching staff, all hell breaks loose. You realize he isn't a god, right? Just asking.
Doo doo me trousers and let's do this!!


It's the same BS argument Patriots fans have been making for years. They don't like it that Mahomes is a better QB than their beloved TB. :rolleyes:

And everyone said the Chiefs would take a step back last year because they lost Tyreek. Many even suggested they would either be a wildcard or not even make the playoffs. Yet Mahomes willed that team to a SB victory on a bum ankle. That is the difference.

Also, Mahomes played well from the very get go. His first game ever came at the end of the 2017 season (his rookie year) at Denver. He was playing with a bunch of backups but looked great.

[Lzen]

little brother, I came in here to help YOU out! Some of the things you are saying are either skewed or flat out lies. Dawkins is a pro bowler, yes, but he looked awful in preseason action so far (he has even admitted that himself) and showed up to camp way out of shape and overweight, even for him! All you have to do is log onto twobillsdrive and you will see post upon post of people calling him out for his dismal and uninspired play so far. The o.line is NOT fixed, not even close to being fixed. If Buffalo is lucky, it will be an average line at best. I know you are a Bills fan, as I am, but you say things that are foolish and just plain wrong. Makes me cringe to read some of your posts sometimes.

Hi, My name is Shelia and I'm Diclix little sister.....

:spock:

[ptlyon]

The bills will not recover from the Hamlin debacle. They threw the towel in then and now realize their best shot was 13 seconds. They're done and they know it.

[GoForIt]

Miami right now is the leading team to land Jonathan Taylor. If they do trade for him then the balance of power IMO in the East goes to the Fins over the Bills. But don't count out the Jets either. They have the best defense.

[Lzen]

I do think it will be interesting to see how the AFCE plays out this season. It is definitely much stronger and that will make things much tougher on the Bills. I also find it amusing that nobody is talking about the Patriots. ROFL

[GoForIt]

I do think it will be interesting to see how the AFCE plays out this season. It is definitely much stronger and that will make things much tougher on the Bills. I also find it amusing that nobody is talking about the Patriots. ROFL

The Pats are probably finishing last. Bill and Pat nation have learned the hard way the last 3 years just how much the dynasty was predicated on the GOAT.

[Rainbarrel]

They tried putting wings on a Pinto. Keeping Josh from rear end collisions with his legs. still goes boom

[TEX]

Cracks me up that fools still pull this card.

Dude just won a SB playing on one leg throughout the entire playoffs. Won the AFCC (over the team that blew out the Bills in Buffalo) down 4 of his top 5 WRs, from a WR corps that wasn't that good to begin with.

Allen had a much better defense, one of the best WRs in the game, another really good WR, and one of the top TEs in the league.

Btw, did anyone call Reid the best coach in the league before Mahomes? Anyone?

But....but.....Mahomes had the better TE!! LMAO

Don't waste your breath, Bills fan is a table crunching, dildo munching, moron.

[duncan_idaho]

I'm not sure if he held the guys he was matched up on to 2 catches or whatever, but Jason Elam was playing with the 3s/4s and covering kicks in the Bills' last preseason game.

Really screams "I'm ready to take a step in Year 2!"

[RunKC]

LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> do with Kaiir Elam over the next few days will be interesting.<br><br>A trade seems best option, but what&#39;s his value?<br><br>I cannot imagine cutting a 1st round pick they traded up to get before his 2nd season even begins, but it&#39;s clear he&#39;s at bottom of CB depth chart.</p>&mdash; Jon Scott (@JonScottTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonScottTV/status/1695516057295880595?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Sofa King]

LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> do with Kaiir Elam over the next few days will be interesting.<br><br>A trade seems best option, but what&#39;s his value?<br><br>I cannot imagine cutting a 1st round pick they traded up to get before his 2nd season even begins, but it&#39;s clear he&#39;s at bottom of CB depth chart.</p>&mdash; Jon Scott (@JonScottTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonScottTV/status/1695516057295880595?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LMAO

We jumped them for McDuffie and then they reach for the next guy and dump him the next year. LMAO LMAO

https://youtu.be/nFCe3-MNHL4?si=0CULXzLksMtaCtqJ&t=59