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TLO
08-29-2023, 06:38 PM
Looks like the Chiefs are 6.5 point favorites according to Vegas.

How do you see this one playing out?

Molitoth
08-29-2023, 06:39 PM
the Lions are my second fav team, but I'll be rooting my favorite team, the Kansas City Chiefs.

Megatron96
08-29-2023, 06:42 PM
Holy God, thank you.

Forget the spread. KC has been terrible about covering for the last couple years. Plus, the Chiefs only managed 6 double-digit Ws in 2022. Take out those games, and the average margin of victory for KC was about 3 points.

IIrc, DET is going to be missing a few players that would've been possible difference makers, i think due to injury?

of course, we'll be missing CJ. Possibly Toney. Depends on how much he practices next week and how well, I'd imagine.


i think the game will be a lot closer than it should be, due to CJ's absence. Not just because of his pass-rushing either. He's become the best run-stuffer on the DL as well, and DET likes to run the ball. That should narrow the margin somewhat for DET.

And we can't forget that DET won 8 of their last 10 in 2022, in large part due to their defense coming together.


And their offense is credible. Goff can play the position, and while not elite, he can stand and deliver passes anywhere on the field, if not harassed too much. It helps that he has a nice array of WRs to throw to, and a solid RB corps to take some of the heat off of him.


However, it's Week 1, and I expect DET to come out a bit rusty. Chiefs usually come out pretty good in the opener, so I expect the Chief to win, though by 3-4, not 7.

tredadda
08-29-2023, 06:45 PM
The Lions could be tough this year. It will all depend on if Goff improves or if he becomes Goof again. They have a lot of talent on offense so it will be a good test of our defense without Jones (most likely).

I think this offense will move the ball and score well against their defense although I am intrigued to see how our new Ts match up against Hutchinson.

If there was one team I would love to see win it all if KC doesn't it would be the Lions. That fanbase has suffered more than almost any other.

CasselGotPeedOn
08-29-2023, 06:50 PM
the Lions are my second fav team, but I'll be rooting my favorite team, the Kansas City Chiefs.

What kind of faggot ass shit is this?

Bearcat
08-29-2023, 06:57 PM
Feels like the opener against the Cards... fake hype after the Lions *checks notes* beat two 9-win playoff teams and the looked-like-a-9-win-team Vikings.

Demonpenz
08-29-2023, 06:57 PM
The last time the chiefs faced goff he went for 500

Delano
08-29-2023, 07:08 PM
Holy God, thank you.

Forget the spread. KC has been terrible about covering for the last couple years. Plus, the Chiefs only managed 6 double-digit Ws in 2022. Take out those games, and the average margin of victory for KC was about 3 points.

IIrc, DET is going to be missing a few players that would've been possible difference makers, i think due to injury?

of course, we'll be missing CJ. Possibly Toney. Depends on how much he practices next week and how well, I'd imagine.


i think the game will be a lot closer than it should be, due to CJ's absence. Not just because of his pass-rushing either. He's become the best run-stuffer on the DL as well, and DET likes to run the ball. That should narrow the margin somewhat for DET.

And we can't forget that DET won 8 of their last 10 in 2022, in large part due to their defense coming together.


And their offense is credible. Goff can play the position, and while not elite, he can stand and deliver passes anywhere on the field, if not harassed too much. It helps that he has a nice array of WRs and TJ Hockenson (TE1) to throw to, and a solid RB corps to take some of the heat off of him.


However, it's Week 1, and I expect DET to come out a bit rusty. Chiefs usually come out pretty good in the opener, so I expect the Chief to win, though by 3-4, not 7.

You might want to check which roster TJ Hockenson is actually on.

Rainbarrel
08-29-2023, 07:11 PM
Thanksgiving gets here earlier and earlier every year

In58men
08-29-2023, 07:13 PM
It’ll come down to the wire like always.

It’ll be something like 24-28, Detroit has the ball with 1:26 left and 1 timeout. Chiefs get a turnover to seal the game.

Megatron96
08-29-2023, 07:15 PM
You might want to check which roster TJ Hockenson is actually on.



Weird. I literally just looked at their roster on ESPN and TJ was on there.

But you're right; I remember TJ going to MIN last year. My bad.

Coochie liquor
08-29-2023, 07:17 PM
It’ll come down to the wire like always.

It’ll be something like 24-28, Detroit has the ball with 1:26 left and 1 timeout. Chiefs get a turnover to seal the game.

I seenn no it more like Detroit has the lead late, but Pat pulls another rabbit outta his hat. In the form of a last second TD to Ross!

In58men
08-29-2023, 07:23 PM
I seenn no it more like Detroit has the lead late, but Pat pulls another rabbit outta his hat. In the form of a last second TD to Ross!

I will cum.

Cum will be everywhere.

Wisconsin_Chief
08-29-2023, 07:23 PM
It’s going to be a boat race, the Lions are going to put up points on this defense without Jones. Chiefs can light up their defense even more though, so we should pull it out.

Going to be a fun one to start the year.

RollChiefsRoll
08-29-2023, 07:24 PM
FUCK THEM

Raiderhater
08-29-2023, 07:26 PM
Celebrating the SB win in prime time, and this time with a full and rowdy house…

I think the Chiefs dominate Detroit like they did Houston in the 2020 kick off special.

Bearcat
08-29-2023, 07:32 PM
Holy God, thank you.

Forget the spread. KC has been terrible about covering for the last couple years. Plus, the Chiefs only managed 6 double-digit Ws in 2022. Take out those games, and the average margin of victory for KC was about 3 points.


And we can't forget that DET won 8 of their last 10 in 2022, in large part due to their defense coming together.



So, we can also remove 6 of those Ws for Detroit? :spock:

Easy 6
08-29-2023, 07:33 PM
If there was one team I would love to see win it all if KC doesn't it would be the Lions. That fanbase has suffered more than almost any other.

True that

TwistedChief
08-29-2023, 07:33 PM
You might want to check which roster TJ Hockenson is actually on.

How can one spend that much time posting about a team when one isn't even aware that the weapon was traded to the Vikings at the deadline last season? And was the focus for Cousins on the most crucial down of the entire season?

Now, if you want to say Sam Laporta could be every bit the player Hockenson was, I'm on board with that. He's going to be very, very good.

I'm really glad Jameson Williams isn't playing. I hope they haven't figured out how to utilize Gibbs yet. Andy Reid is really, really good when he has time to gameplan for teams like this. Goff can be rattled and Spags is going to have to get awfully creative without Chris Jones being a normal part of the DL.

It could be tough. It's so impossible to know.

Red Dawg
08-29-2023, 07:35 PM
It’s going to be a boat race, the Lions are going to put up points on this defense without Jones. Chiefs can light up their defense even more though, so we should pull it out.

Going to be a fun one to start the year.

With or without Jones teams have put up pints on us.

ModSocks
08-29-2023, 07:36 PM
With or without Jones teams have put up pints on us.

As long as they dont put up gallons we'll be alright.

Megatron96
08-29-2023, 07:37 PM
So, we can also remove 6 of those Ws for Detroit? :spock:



Well, I guess if you want to.:hmmm:

The point is that KC doesn't regularly blow other teams out. Hasn't been a thing for a couple three years now. It happens here and there, but there's no real consistency about it.

And when they don't blow teams out, the games tend to be pretty close. Nothing in between really.

If there was, I'd have a lot more $$$ in my sportsbook acct right now . . .

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
08-29-2023, 07:38 PM
Will all 7 WRs dress on Sunday? Will all see the field? How will it play out?

Simply Red
08-29-2023, 07:39 PM
Hello - Love KC in this one!

Megatron96
08-29-2023, 07:39 PM
Will all 7 WRs dress on Sunday? Will all see the field? How will it play out?



Hmm. I'm all out of magic 8-balls . . .

MAHOMO 4 LIFE!
08-29-2023, 07:44 PM
Absolutely love the Lions but Mahomes pulls this one out, I expect MVS and Skyy to have a huge game along with Kelce. Our defense will get ran through like Swiss cheese and it’s gonna be a shootout. Goff vs Mahomes 2!! I predict 41-45 Chiefs

smithandrew051
08-29-2023, 07:45 PM
Chiefs win a close one. 69-0

Hog's Gone Fishin
08-29-2023, 07:48 PM
I will cum.

Cum will be everywhere.

You mean like, In 58 Men ??

KC Hawks
08-29-2023, 07:49 PM
I think should every team except the KC Chiefs should kill themselves

Hog's Gone Fishin
08-29-2023, 07:50 PM
I really, really, really wanted Gibbs to fall to us, he would have been a perfect fit. I hope Bolton is on point .

Delano
08-29-2023, 07:50 PM
How can one spend that much time posting about a team when one isn't even aware that the weapon was traded to the Vikings at the deadline last season? And was the focus for Cousins on the most crucial down of the entire season?

Now, if you want to say Sam Laporta could be every bit the player Hockenson was, I'm on board with that. He's going to be very, very good.

I'm really glad Jameson Williams isn't playing. I hope they haven't figured out how to utilize Gibbs yet. Andy Reid is really, really good when he has time to gameplan for teams like this. Goff can be rattled and Spags is going to have to get awfully creative without Chris Jones being a normal part of the DL.

It could be tough. It's so impossible to know.

Have to assume it was a brain fog moment… I hope. That was a big trade down the stretch last year.

The Lions have such a good line and it’s going to test Spags’ scheme changes with the front 7 minus Jones. Gibbs and Montgomery could really challenge the Chiefs but you hope they’re very diversely skilled linebackers can lock them down.

I’m really curious if Reid will call a ball control type offense or if they’ll try to put up 35+ a game. Jones missing could impact things in so many ways.

Megatron96
08-29-2023, 07:52 PM
I think should every team except the KC Chiefs should kill themselves



Um, then there wouldn't be a league. So, no Super bowls.

sounds very boring.

Skyy God
08-29-2023, 07:53 PM
Looks like the Chiefs are 6.5 point favorites according to Vegas.

How do you see this one playing out?

Kicked the gambling habit, eh??

In58men
08-29-2023, 07:53 PM
You mean like, In 58 Men ??

Yes and you’re part of the 58, congratulations!

Skyy God
08-29-2023, 07:53 PM
Also, Chiefs gonna eat all their kneecaps.

Simply Red
08-29-2023, 07:55 PM
Chiefs win a close one. 69-0

Thinking Mahomes will throw for 420 yards!

lewdog
08-29-2023, 08:00 PM
I'm not sure who's going to be the bigger disappointment this year....The Lions, The Jets or Chris Jones?!?!?!

Titty Meat
08-29-2023, 08:02 PM
Should be a good game Lions catching us at an interesting time with injuries and hold outs.

In58men
08-29-2023, 08:03 PM
I'm not sure who's going to be the bigger disappointment this year....The Lions, The Jets or Chris Jones?!?!?!

Your mom actually…..it’ll be your mom.

Bump
08-29-2023, 08:03 PM
Thinking Mahomes will throw for 420 yards!

to just the tight end and another 420 to our 7 receivers

Megatron96
08-29-2023, 08:05 PM
I actually hope it's a good competitive game. Always had a little soft spot for DET since they drafted Barry.

Also, it's the first game of the season. It would be nice if it was exciting. Even a little nerve-wracking.

Titty Meat
08-29-2023, 08:09 PM
Chiefs win a close one. 69-0

LMAO!!!

TLO
08-29-2023, 08:10 PM
Kicked the gambling habit, eh??

Sure have. Going on 60 days. I never bet on sports, but the Vegas lines always intrigue me.

notorious
08-29-2023, 08:10 PM
I actually hope it's a good competitive game. Always had a little soft spot for DET since they drafted Barry.

Also, it's the first game of the season. It would be nice if it was exciting. Even a little nerve-wracking.

I hope the Chiefs stomp a mudhole in their ass and 90% of the world tunes out of the broadcast.

Skyy God
08-29-2023, 08:18 PM
Sure have. Going on 60 days. I never bet on sports, but the Vegas lines always intrigue me.

Good work, keep it up.

carcosa
08-29-2023, 08:21 PM
KC Chiefs will win

Raiderhater
08-29-2023, 08:22 PM
I hope the Chiefs stomp a mudhole in their ass and 90% of the world tunes out of the broadcast.

Yes please.

Hog's Gone Fishin
08-29-2023, 08:24 PM
Yes and you’re part of the 58, congratulations!

:thumb:

FloridaMan88
08-29-2023, 08:25 PM
Andy Reid vs Dan Campbell… anytime… but especially week one… is a coaching mismatch to put it mildly.

Megatron96
08-29-2023, 08:33 PM
Have to assume it was a brain fog moment… I hope. That was a big trade down the stretch last year.



!00%. total brainfart. On multiple levels.

Chris Meck
08-29-2023, 08:47 PM
Holy God, thank you.

Forget the spread. KC has been terrible about covering for the last couple years. Plus, the Chiefs only managed 6 double-digit Ws in 2022. Take out those games, and the average margin of victory for KC was about 3 points.

IIrc, DET is going to be missing a few players that would've been possible difference makers, i think due to injury?

of course, we'll be missing CJ. Possibly Toney. Depends on how much he practices next week and how well, I'd imagine.


i think the game will be a lot closer than it should be, due to CJ's absence. Not just because of his pass-rushing either. He's become the best run-stuffer on the DL as well, and DET likes to run the ball. That should narrow the margin somewhat for DET.

And we can't forget that DET won 8 of their last 10 in 2022, in large part due to their defense coming together.


And their offense is credible. Goff can play the position, and while not elite, he can stand and deliver passes anywhere on the field, if not harassed too much. It helps that he has a nice array of WRs to throw to, and a solid RB corps to take some of the heat off of him.


However, it's Week 1, and I expect DET to come out a bit rusty. Chiefs usually come out pretty good in the opener, so I expect the Chief to win, though by 3-4, not 7.

Good gods, man, you keep doing this -

Chiefs won "only 6 games by double digits"

You mean like HALF?

Megatron96
08-29-2023, 08:50 PM
Good gods, man, you keep doing this -

Chiefs won "only 6 games by double digits"

You mean like HALF?

Did we play a 12 game season? Could've sworn the Chiefs played 20 games . . .

IowaHawkeyeChief
08-29-2023, 08:54 PM
As long as they dont put up gallons we'll be alright.

We'll drown if they do...

Megatron96
08-29-2023, 08:58 PM
As long as they dont put up gallons we'll be alright.

:)

Hammock Parties
08-29-2023, 09:02 PM
The Lions still have a terrible defense.

I see a 38-27ish type game that's close for awhile until the Chiefs lay down the law in the 4th.

We're not letting the banner drop be tarnished.

Megatron96
08-29-2023, 09:16 PM
Good gods, man, you keep doing this -

Chiefs won "only 6 games by double digits"

You mean like HALF?

Did we play a 12 game season? Could've sworn the Chiefs played 20 games . . .



Yeah, so I did some research, and KC played a full regular season slate in 2022 (I knew it!!!!), which is 17 games, not 12. So 6 games out of 17 games . . . carry the 1 . . . that's not half (50%), but actually 35% (6/17).

But my post was with gambling and the spread in mind, so I was really thinking about the reg season plus playoffs, which, as I stated, is really 20 games played in 2022. Was pretty sure about that one, since I bet on nearly every game last year.

Now, in doing that research I found that I missed the SEA game, so it wasn't 6 games, but 7 games KC won by double-digits.

But that's still just 35%, when considering every actual game played, 20.

So, no, not HALF.

Hope that clear.:)

Pepe Silvia
08-29-2023, 10:20 PM
Barry Sanders isn’t running through that door.

big nasty kcnut
08-29-2023, 10:25 PM
CHIEFS 90 DETROIT 0 Let the fun begin.

MMXcalibur
08-29-2023, 10:33 PM
This is going to be our toughest game to date on the season.

The Lions are coming in undefeated and we haven't won a game. Hope we can hang with 'em and make it interesting in the 4th quarter.

ptlyon
08-29-2023, 10:36 PM
Interesting. I don't see where the CJ news has moved the line.

smithandrew051
08-29-2023, 10:43 PM
CHIEFS 90 DETROIT 0 Let the fun begin.

Only if you start the GDT

bdj23
08-29-2023, 11:06 PM
This is going to be our toughest game to date on the season.

The Lions are coming in undefeated and we haven't won a game. Hope we can hang with 'em and make it interesting in the 4th quarter.

Season is over. Won't sniff the playoffs

gordonelloyd
08-29-2023, 11:07 PM
Who is going to be our WR 1.

Tribal Warfare
08-29-2023, 11:56 PM
Who is going to be our WR 1.

Outside of Kelce it'll probably be MVS

BleedingRed
08-30-2023, 12:27 AM
I needed this thread

BossChief
08-30-2023, 12:29 AM
We are superior at damn near every position.

Our offense has a chance to put the league on notice with close to a 50 point opening performance and I can see the defense giving up half that to their offense.

BossChief
08-30-2023, 12:30 AM
We are superior at damn near every position.

Our offense has a chance to put the league on notice with close to a 50 point opening performance and I can see the defense giving up half that to their offense.

ThyKingdomCome15
08-30-2023, 02:40 AM
With no Omenihu or Jones Goff should have time to throw. I expect our secondary to play well regardless. I'm looking forward to seeing Felix and George on the field at the same time.

The offense shouldn't have any trouble breaking 30 points. Skyy didn't get much work in Preseason. We need him to find his groove. It's his time now.

Going to be a lot of fun

BANNER!!!

TwistedChief
08-30-2023, 04:10 AM
We are superior at damn near every position.


I'm not that familiar with the Lions, but off the top of my head, I'd take Aidan Hutchinson over any of our edge rushers and Aman-Ra St Brown over any of our receivers.

Bearcat
08-30-2023, 04:22 AM
Yeah, so I did some research, and KC played a full regular season slate in 2022 (I knew it!!!!), which is 17 games, not 12. So 6 games out of 17 games . . . carry the 1 . . . that's not half (50%), but actually 35% (6/17).

But my post was with gambling and the spread in mind, so I was really thinking about the reg season plus playoffs, which, as I stated, is really 20 games played in 2022. Was pretty sure about that one, since I bet on nearly every game last year.

Now, in doing that research I found that I missed the SEA game, so it wasn't 6 games, but 7 games KC won by double-digits.

But that's still just 35%, when considering every actual game played, 20.

So, no, not HALF.

Hope that clear.:)

In terms if the Lions, it would probably make more sense to see how many games they won by double digits against non-playoff teams... since the Lions aren't the Bills, Bengals, 49ers, Jags.

Unless they are, I guess. :shrug:

Chris Meck
08-30-2023, 05:15 AM
Did we play a 12 game season? Could've sworn the Chiefs played 20 games . . .

Chiefs were 5th in win margin.

Chris Meck
08-30-2023, 05:23 AM
Anyway, I think The Lions are probably going to be a playoff team. It's a worthy opponent

chiefzilla1501
08-30-2023, 06:45 AM
I feel like more and more there is a wider spread between old school coaches who put on a well run camp and those who don’t. Maybe Campbell runs a good offseason but his team has opened the season poorly since he’s been coach. Since mahomes took over we’ve won the opening game by 10+ all but one season (where we won by 2 vs the browns) and a few like last year were an embarrassing display of catching an unprepared team off guard. our early season preparation is always going to be a huge pro for us.

Skyy God
08-30-2023, 07:04 AM
I'm not that familiar with the Lions, but off the top of my head, I'd take Aidan Hutchinson over any of our edge rushers and Aman-Ra St Brown over any of our receivers.

Furious George, especially the back half, played similarly to Hutch last year.

And our WR corps >>> theirs.

CoMoChief
08-30-2023, 07:16 AM
These arent your daddy's Lions.

Hope the Chiefs don't take them lightly. Its the home opener so hopefully they're jacked up for it.

Skyy God
08-30-2023, 07:19 AM
These arent your daddy's Lions.

Hope the Chiefs don't take them lightly. Its the home opener so hopefully they're jacked up for it.

They had a good last half of the season. Then they spent their firsts on a midget RB and an off ball LB and had last year’s #1 suspended for gambling.

Prime regression candidate. Late season momentum rarely carries over.

TwistedChief
08-30-2023, 07:38 AM
Furious George, especially the back half, played similarly to Hutch last year.

And our WR corps >>> theirs.

I am curious what Karlaftis does this year if Jones doesn't show up. Could be a lot rougher if he starts seeing double teams (which he struggled with in college). Just in general I am really reluctant to project any of our DL out from last year if Jones isn't playing as I think he made everyone else's life a lot easier.

As for WR corps, are you sure? I can say with certainty that I feel better with Mahomes throwing to our WRs versus Goff throwing to his, but I'm not sure our WRs in isolation ex-Mahomes are clearly better (especially if we're talking about an up-to-speed Jameson Williams whom we happily get to avoid).

RunKC
08-30-2023, 08:16 AM
Aidan Hutchinson is gonna test our new tackles early. If he can't get consistent pressure on Patrick it's game over. It's as simple as that.

Their OL could pummel our DL which could keep them in the game.

Skyy God
08-30-2023, 08:17 AM
I am curious what Karlaftis does this year if Jones doesn't show up. Could be a lot rougher if he starts seeing double teams (which he struggled with in college). Just in general I am really reluctant to project any of our DL out from last year if Jones isn't playing as I think he made everyone else's life a lot easier.

As for WR corps, are you sure? I can say with certainty that I feel better with Mahomes throwing to our WRs versus Goff throwing to his, but I'm not sure our WRs in isolation ex-Mahomes are clearly better (especially if we're talking about an up-to-speed Jameson Williams whom we happily get to avoid).

We were wildly the most efficient offense last year. Our WRs have another year to learn Andy’s system, and we added high talent guys in Rice and James.

People are sleeping on them due to lack of past production.

“ The Chiefs had the best offense last season, and it wasn’t close. They ranked first in expected points added per drive, and the difference between them and the second-ranked Eagles was the same as the difference between the Eagles and the 16th-ranked Packers.”

mr. tegu
08-30-2023, 08:19 AM
We will blow them out as we always do in the first game. Average margin of victory in the first game with Mahomes is 13 with only one game where we won by less than 10 points.

HC_Chief
08-30-2023, 08:26 AM
The Lions were hot in the second half of last season. Great offense, terrible defense. Reminds me a bit of our Vermeil era Chiefs... can score, but can't stop anybody.

If we can get a few crucial early stops, this may end up being a boat race, i.e. 21+ margin of victory. Our offense should have a field day. We already know Andy's teams come out firing on all cylinders to start the season (and after a bye)... no reason to expect otherwise. The Lions traditionally start slow; again, no reason to expect otherwise.

No turnovers. TDs instead of FGs. Get some stops on D. Victory.

duncan_idaho
08-30-2023, 08:43 AM
The Lions were hot in the second half of last season. Great offense, terrible defense. Reminds me a bit of our Vermeil era Chiefs... can score, but can't stop anybody.

If we can get a few crucial early stops, this may end up being a boat race, i.e. 21+ margin of victory. Our offense should have a field day. We already know Andy's teams come out firing on all cylinders to start the season (and after a bye)... no reason to expect otherwise. The Lions traditionally start slow; again, no reason to expect otherwise.

No turnovers. TDs instead of FGs. Get some stops on D. Victory.

Goff is very much like Alex Smith. If the plan is working and the offense is "on schedule" he can be pretty effective. He's a better thrower than Smith and more capable of making big-time throws, but it still requires things going according to plan.

Johnson is a pretty damn good OC. One of the better offensive minds around.

But defensively, I don't see them matching up well against KC or having the horses in the secondary or on the front lines to really give KC too much trouble.

If the Chiefs can get a league working and put more on Goff's shoulders, it can be a comfortable win. Probably a shootout - for a while, at least -otherwise.

Of course, I have gotten to the point where I'm assuming Chris Jones will not play in this one. Him playing could create a little more optimism in the defense for this matchup.

ThaVirus
08-30-2023, 08:52 AM
I’ve been having nightmares about Jahmyr Gibbs.

Our team is pretty different this year. All new bookends, new WR corps, terrible defensive line, missing Chris Jones, Sneed and Toney. I truly don’t know what to expect.

I’m just leaning into the fact that Reid’s had months to prepare for this one, which will make us a tough out for anyone. Plus we’ve got Mahomes so.. not going to worry too much.

I’d just really like a big win to start the year off right. If we lose or even falter too much, the pundits will be harping on our WRs and missing Chris Jones for another week and a half before our next game and I don’t want to deal with that shit.

TwistedChief
08-30-2023, 09:26 AM
We were wildly the most efficient offense last year. Our WRs have another year to learn Andy’s system, and we added high talent guys in Rice and James.

People are sleeping on them due to lack of past production.

“ The Chiefs had the best offense last season, and it wasn’t close. They ranked first in expected points added per drive, and the difference between them and the second-ranked Eagles was the same as the difference between the Eagles and the 16th-ranked Packers.”

My counterpoint is that's just all Mahomes (and Kelce to a lesser extent). And JuJu is gone. And you can argue some of their young receivers also benefit from more time in the new Ben Johnson (their OC) system.

tredadda
08-30-2023, 09:41 AM
This is going to be our toughest game to date on the season.

The Lions are coming in undefeated and we haven't won a game. Hope we can hang with 'em and make it interesting in the 4th quarter.

Part of the reason we have zero wins is because Mahomes has zero TD passes. Just hope this changes against the Lions.

Megatron96
08-30-2023, 10:45 AM
Chiefs were 5th in win margin.



That's true. Also not really what I was talking about.

Wallcrawler
08-30-2023, 12:14 PM
The Kansas City Chiefs will defeat the Detroit Lions handily, however, it will be late third quarter before Megatron eases up on the hand wringing worrying about if we will win by double digits or not.

Chris Jones will have paid over one million dollars to watch his stock go down, and the most braindead agent of all time will have allowed this spiral down the shitter he started to continue.

Dilphag9 weeps at the sight of a Chiefs team without Chris Jones, contemplating chugging the antifreeze, and TwistedPanties stares on speechless, slackjawed with a tendril of drool oozing from the corner of his mouth at the idea that the Chiefs defense got off the field a single time without the almighty 95 to save the other 10 defensive players.

Pete will watch on from the edge of his seat, looking for any reason to proclaim this team won't sniff the playoffs, and taking notes on which key contributors to the win should be denied amenities for their mistakes during a game we won.

In short, its going to be the greatest night of the year, with The Kansas City Chiefs returning to kick off the NFL season, drop the banner, then drop Jared Goff and the Lions like a bad habit.

The usual suspects with partake of their inaugural GameDay thread screech and squee, thread bans will take place, all will be right with the world and the Kansas City Chiefs will be 1-0.

AdolfOliverBush
08-30-2023, 01:05 PM
The Chiefs will fuck their asses, and make them humble.

Mecca
08-30-2023, 01:09 PM
They have a lot of offensive weapons with a top notch line so they will most likely move the ball.

Megatron96
08-30-2023, 01:18 PM
They have a lot of offensive weapons with a top notch line so they will most likely move the ball.



My guess is that they're going to run the ball liberally; test our DL's run defense without CJ and Omenihu.

Nnadi/Tershon/the ex-Raider are going to get lots of work.

saphojunkie
08-30-2023, 01:19 PM
They have a lot of offensive weapons with a top notch line so they will most likely move the ball.

Happy that Jameson Williams isn't around yet

Mecca
08-30-2023, 01:23 PM
Happy that Jameson Williams isn't around yet

Amon Ra St Brown is very good...

tredadda
08-30-2023, 01:33 PM
They have a lot of offensive weapons with a top notch line so they will most likely move the ball.

Yeah, I am interested in seeing if we are able to generate any pressure on Goff with that line of theirs.

BitterSyd
08-30-2023, 01:42 PM
First time poster here and a lifelong Detroit Lion fan (since '68). Have never seen the Lions on the road until this coming Sept. 7th. Was a season ticket holder from '77 to '84 and still go to two or three games a year. Us Lion fans have very thick skin and can take almost anything. Trust me, we heard it all through the decades.

Loved watching as a wee lad, those great KC/Oak games. Thats what got me hooked on the sport. Have family south of KC and have driven by Arrowhead. Looking forward to actually going to a game there, let alone a nationally televised opener. Curious to hear if the stadium is as loud as the old Silverdome during Barry's years was. Can't miss me, I'll be the old fart in Lions gear. If you're interested, please come visit our forum "Detroit Lions The Den". Hope this doesn't break a rule.

For the game, we didn't play any starters of last year's team during preseason. Having two joint sessions (NYG & Jax), the starters got their work there. Came thought relatively injury free. We have gotten deeper on all three levels of the defense, via a solid draft and key FA signings. Expect heavy DL/LB rotations, we are deep here. Fourth quarter will be interesting.

This is the first game in over two years with starting Oline (Decker, JJackson, Ragnow, BigV & Sewell). Also have a brand-new upgraded RB room, but feel we are weaker at WR than last year. Hopefully rookie TE LaPorta can fill the void. Should be a helava game! Of course, hoping for a Lion win and making it out of there alive.

GOOD LUCK!

duncan_idaho
08-30-2023, 01:56 PM
First time poster here and a lifelong Detroit Lion fan (since '68). Have never seen the Lions on the road until this coming Sept. 7th. Was a season ticket holder from '77 to '84 and still go to two or three games a year. Us Lion fans have very thick skin and can take almost anything. Trust me, we heard it all through the decades.

Loved watching as a wee lad, those great KC/Oak games. Thats what got me hooked on the sport. Have family south of KC and have driven by Arrowhead. Looking forward to actually going to a game there, let alone a nationally televised opener. Curious to hear if the stadium is as loud as the old Silverdome during Barry's years was. Can't miss me, I'll be the old fart in Lions gear. If you're interested, please come visit our forum "Detroit Lions The Den". Hope this doesn't break a rule.

For the game, we didn't play any starters of last year's team during preseason. Having two joint sessions (NYG & Jax), the starters got their work there. Came thought relatively injury free. We have gotten deeper on all three levels of the defense, via a solid draft and key FA signings. Expect heavy DL/LB rotations, we are deep here. Fourth quarter will be interesting.

This is the first game in over two years with starting Oline (Decker, JJackson, Ragnow, BigV & Sewell). Also have a brand-new upgraded RB room, but feel we are weaker at WR than last year. Hopefully rookie TE LaPorta can fill the void. Should be a helava game! Of course, hoping for a Lion win and making it out of there alive.

GOOD LUCK!

Welcome. Now go chug some antifreeze and die in an AIDS fire, you freaking NOOB.

BitterSyd
08-30-2023, 02:11 PM
Welcome. Now go chug some antifreeze and die in an AIDS fire, you freaking NOOB.

You're snarky. Can we be friends?

Megatron96
08-30-2023, 02:22 PM
:popcorn:

Oh boy

TwistedChief
08-30-2023, 02:23 PM
You're snarky. Can we be friends?

That’s a normal welcome to CP. And he’s one of the nicer ones.

Please forgive us. We used to be friendlier when fans of opposing teams who have been hapless in the same way that we were pre-Mahomes would show up. But then Bengals fans came around a couple seasons ago and we welcomed them with amusement, only for that team to become the most obnoxious and arrogant and their fans to follow.

I find it hard to believe anyone could ever truly hate the Detroit Lions. So we wish you well outside of the opener.

Skyy God
08-30-2023, 04:15 PM
You're snarky. Can we be friends?

Duncan requires all potential friends to meet him at the George Brett statue for proper vetting.

Billay may also be there

ReLion
08-30-2023, 04:30 PM
That’s a normal welcome to CP. And he’s one of the nicer ones.

Please forgive us. We used to be friendlier when fans of opposing teams who have been hapless in the same way that we were pre-Mahomes would show up. But then Bengals fans came around a couple seasons ago and we welcomed them with amusement, only for that team to become the most obnoxious and arrogant and their fans to follow.

I find it hard to believe anyone could ever truly hate the Detroit Lions. So we wish you well outside of the opener.

Ohio football fans are... special.

Lions fans tend to be more reasonable. Probably due largely to 60 years of humble pie. And we probably have our share of knuckleheads. Bandwagon is filling up, bound to be some bad apples.

Chiefs have always been my AFC team dating back to the Joe Montana year. Loved the 9ers as a kid and followed him over. Mahomes is my favorite non-Lion. I wish you all well in recovering from a 0-1 start. At least the ring ceremony will be fun for you 😀

Megatron96
08-30-2023, 04:32 PM
Holy crap. There's two of them now.


Wait, is one of these guys really DQX posing as a Lions fan? have these guys been properly vetted?

BitterSyd
08-30-2023, 04:41 PM
Holy crap. There's two of them now.

Sure you read about the new COVID virus strain?

ModSocks
08-30-2023, 04:51 PM
First time poster here and a lifelong Detroit Lion fan (since '68).

Well shit dude, i'm sorry to hear that. That's a looooooot of miserable Sundays.

Welcome to Chiefsplanet, the most notorious and hated fan forum on Al Gore's internet.

Rainbarrel
08-30-2023, 04:56 PM
You don't have to be faster than the Lions. They'll trip over their own asses

BitterSyd
08-30-2023, 05:09 PM
You don't have to be faster than the Lions. They'll trip over their own asses

These aren't your dad's Lions.

In a tad over two years everything has been replaced, from owner to asst trainer. And all are on the same page. This is brand new poop in these parts.

Fully aware that no one gives a shit around that here. Just saying, don't be shocked...

chop
08-30-2023, 05:13 PM
the Lions are my second fav team, but I'll be rooting my favorite team, the Kansas City Chiefs.


How are the Lions your second favorite team? You must live in Michigan or something.

ModSocks
08-30-2023, 05:15 PM
How are the Lions your second favorite team? You must live in Michigan or something.

lol

HC_Chief
08-30-2023, 05:18 PM
Sweet, we have a couple of Lions fans to play with!!

Great offense! That _efense tho.... oof. Said it before, saying it again: this Lions team reminds me of the Vermeil Chiefs teams: score a ton of points, but can't stop anyone from doing the same.

What you've got stacked against you here: Mahomes, Kelce, Andy, and the best O in the league. Andy with a whole off-season to prepare. Arrowhead. A crowd plus amped, as the SB banner is raised. Thursday Night Football, season opener energy. This adds up to an absolute blender. Don't feel bad if it is a slaughter... that is an insanely tough way to open the season. Good luck the rest of the way!!

Hog's Gone Fishin
08-30-2023, 05:38 PM
First time poster here and a lifelong Detroit Lion fan (since '68). Have never seen the Lions on the road until this coming Sept. 7th. Was a season ticket holder from '77 to '84 and still go to two or three games a year. Us Lion fans have very thick skin and can take almost anything. Trust me, we heard it all through the decades.

Loved watching as a wee lad, those great KC/Oak games. Thats what got me hooked on the sport. Have family south of KC and have driven by Arrowhead. Looking forward to actually going to a game there, let alone a nationally televised opener. Curious to hear if the stadium is as loud as the old Silverdome during Barry's years was. Can't miss me, I'll be the old fart in Lions gear. If you're interested, please come visit our forum "Detroit Lions The Den". Hope this doesn't break a rule.

For the game, we didn't play any starters of last year's team during preseason. Having two joint sessions (NYG & Jax), the starters got their work there. Came thought relatively injury free. We have gotten deeper on all three levels of the defense, via a solid draft and key FA signings. Expect heavy DL/LB rotations, we are deep here. Fourth quarter will be interesting.

This is the first game in over two years with starting Oline (Decker, JJackson, Ragnow, BigV & Sewell). Also have a brand-new upgraded RB room, but feel we are weaker at WR than last year. Hopefully rookie TE LaPorta can fill the void. Should be a helava game! Of course, hoping for a Lion win and making it out of there alive.

GOOD LUCK!

Welcome to ChiefsPlanet. I gave you the golden ring, you're welcome. I really, really,really wanted Gibbs to fall to us but you snatched him up. That's OK, we're solid with 2/3rds of our RB group. We use recievers best anyway as you'll witness next Thursday. Good luck and "Eat a Bag O dicks"

Bearcat
08-30-2023, 05:40 PM
First time poster here and a lifelong Detroit Lion fan (since '68). Have never seen the Lions on the road until this coming Sept. 7th. Was a season ticket holder from '77 to '84 and still go to two or three games a year. Us Lion fans have very thick skin and can take almost anything. Trust me, we heard it all through the decades.

Loved watching as a wee lad, those great KC/Oak games. Thats what got me hooked on the sport. Have family south of KC and have driven by Arrowhead. Looking forward to actually going to a game there, let alone a nationally televised opener. Curious to hear if the stadium is as loud as the old Silverdome during Barry's years was. Can't miss me, I'll be the old fart in Lions gear. If you're interested, please come visit our forum "Detroit Lions The Den". Hope this doesn't break a rule.

For the game, we didn't play any starters of last year's team during preseason. Having two joint sessions (NYG & Jax), the starters got their work there. Came thought relatively injury free. We have gotten deeper on all three levels of the defense, via a solid draft and key FA signings. Expect heavy DL/LB rotations, we are deep here. Fourth quarter will be interesting.

This is the first game in over two years with starting Oline (Decker, JJackson, Ragnow, BigV & Sewell). Also have a brand-new upgraded RB room, but feel we are weaker at WR than last year. Hopefully rookie TE LaPorta can fill the void. Should be a helava game! Of course, hoping for a Lion win and making it out of there alive.

GOOD LUCK!

I'm a bit biased, but not sure it can get much better than prime time Arrowhead (of course, besides playoff primetime Arrowhead). Get there early, tailgate, spend all of your money.

Bearcat
08-30-2023, 05:44 PM
I wish you all well in recovering from a 0-1 start. At least the ring ceremony will be fun for you 😀

I dunno, between another SB victory, a new airport, and trash bins... we're flying pretty high right now. 0-1 would just be a flesh wound by comparison.

ReLion
08-30-2023, 06:10 PM
Sweet, we have a couple of Lions fans to play with!!

Great offense! That _efense tho.... oof. Said it before, saying it again: this Lions team reminds me of the Vermeil Chiefs teams: score a ton of points, but can't stop anyone from doing the same.

What you've got stacked against you here: Mahomes, Kelce, Andy, and the best O in the league. Andy with a whole off-season to prepare. Arrowhead. A crowd plus amped, as the SB banner is raised. Thursday Night Football, season opener energy. This adds up to an absolute blender. Don't feel bad if it is a slaughter... that is an insanely tough way to open the season. Good luck the rest of the way!!

Defense is much better than its record last year would indicate. Over the last 10 games points against went down to 21 per. Lots of players got healthy and rookies stepped up. This off-season the entire secondary save one safety was upgraded, and that was the weakness. And the one safety retained was a rookie last year, and was super good. D line is loaded with pass rushers. LB corps is stacked. Biggest question mark is DT and run defense.

They won't be a top 5 unit, but I expect top 12-15. Which is good enough if the offense can repeat its top 5 performance. I expect some regression there, but the team is built to compete with anyone. The Champs in Arrowhead is a tall task. KC should rightly be favored, but the game will be competitive. Throw in typical early season variance and I wouldn't be shocked to see an upset.

ModSocks
08-30-2023, 06:13 PM
Defense is much better than its record last year would indicate. Over the last 10 games points against went down to 21 per. Lots of players got healthy and rookies stepped up. This off-season the entire secondary save one safety was upgraded, and that was the weakness. And the one safety retained was a rookie last year, and was super good. D line is loaded with pass rushers. LB corps is stacked. Biggest question mark is DT and run defense.

They won't be a top 5 unit, but I expect top 12-15. Which is good enough if the offense can repeat its top 5 performance. I expect some regression there, but the team is built to compete with anyone. The Champs in Arrowhead is a tall task. KC should rightly be favored, but the game will be competitive. Throw in typical early season variance and I wouldn't be shocked to see an upset.

WTF. All 3 Lions fans joined? Nice.

ModSocks
08-30-2023, 06:15 PM
Throw in typical early season variance and I wouldn't be shocked to see an upset.

Whoa there, slow your roll, Jabroni.

HC_Chief
08-30-2023, 06:19 PM
Defense is much better than its record last year would indicate. Over the last 10 games points against went down to 21 per. Lots of players got healthy and rookies stepped up. This off-season the entire secondary save one safety was upgraded, and that was the weakness. And the one safety retained was a rookie last year, and was super good. D line is loaded with pass rushers. LB corps is stacked. Biggest question mark is DT and run defense.

They won't be a top 5 unit, but I expect top 12-15. Which is good enough if the offense can repeat its top 5 performance. I expect some regression there, but the team is built to compete with anyone. The Champs in Arrowhead is a tall task. KC should rightly be favored, but the game will be competitive. Throw in typical early season variance and I wouldn't be shocked to see an upset.

A jump from dead last to 12-15 would be massive. I wouldn't bank on it if I were you, but hey, you do you. Maybe your Lions will get there by end of season, but game one... ouch. This is the worst possible draw for anyone.

Hammock Parties
08-30-2023, 06:19 PM
This off-season the entire secondary save one safety was upgraded, and that was the weakness. And the one safety retained was a rookie last year, and was super good. D line is loaded with pass rushers. LB corps is stacked. Biggest question mark is DT and run defense.

They won't be a top 5 unit, but I expect top 12-15. Which is good enough if the offense can repeat its top 5 performance.

https://www.kansascity.com/latest-news/1y6iw1/picture257078067/alternates/FREE_1140/Chiefs_JGL_011303_0156.JPG

Pepe Silvia
08-30-2023, 06:21 PM
Now there are Lions fans all of sudden?

ReLion
08-30-2023, 06:21 PM
Whoa there, slow your roll, Jabroni.

Lol, if this was a week 5 game I'd put a paycheck on the chiefs money line. But week one is always crazy to predict. Lots of rust and new players not experienced in the system. Weird things always happen.

Hammock Parties
08-30-2023, 06:22 PM
You have to admire Lions fans. Aaron Glenn's defenses have been THIS garbage for two years and they think it's going to magically get better.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/GlenAa0.htm

BitterSyd
08-30-2023, 06:23 PM
Not saying we'll win, but +6 1/2 is money.

I quit betting because I suck at it, so there's that...

ModSocks
08-30-2023, 06:24 PM
Now there are Lions fans all of sudden?

I don't even know how to act right now. This is some twilight zone shit.

Do we give them the noob treatment?

Do we behave because the football gods have already stolen their souls and beaten these poor dudes to death?

I'm so confused right now. Culture shock.

BitterSyd
08-30-2023, 06:33 PM
I don't even know how to act right now. This is some twilight zone shit.

Do we give them the noob treatment?

Do we behave because the football gods have already stolen their souls and beaten these poor dudes to death?

I'm so confused right now. Culture shock.


"We're your huckleberry."

HC_Chief
08-30-2023, 06:36 PM
I don't even know how to act right now. This is some twilight zone shit.

Do we give them the noob treatment?

Do we behave because the football gods have already stolen their souls and beaten these poor dudes to death?

I'm so confused right now. Culture shock.

Poor bastards. "Remember Barry Sanders?"
Detroit used to be one hell of a city... now you can buy a block of what were once amazing homes for the price of a Playstation.
Robocop was awesome tho... remember Robocop?
:D

BitterSyd
08-30-2023, 06:46 PM
Poor bastards. "Remember Barry Sanders?"
Detroit used to be one hell of a city... now you can buy a block of what were once amazing homes for the price of a Playstation.
Robocop was awesome tho... remember Robocop?
:D

https://media3.giphy.com/media/IDGNYvFLkJKLK/giphy.gif

ReLion
08-30-2023, 06:52 PM
Poor bastards. "Remember Barry Sanders?"
Detroit used to be one hell of a city... now you can buy a block of what were once amazing homes for the price of a Playstation.
Robocop was awesome tho... remember Robocop?
:D
I've been to Kansas City...

Hammock Parties
08-30-2023, 06:54 PM
Poor bastards. "Remember Barry Sanders?"
Detroit used to be one hell of a city... now you can buy a block of what were once amazing homes for the price of a Playstation.
Robocop was awesome tho... remember Robocop?
:D

You know if the Lions fan base had a Clay, right now he'd be making memes with Jared Goff as Murphy coming back from the dead and blowing up Pat-209 before heading into Arrowhead and blasting Clark Hunt out the top window.

But they don't have a Clay. Or a Mahomes. Or a Hunt. Poverty franchise. They cower before our might.

We're going to peel Murphy's skin off his robot face, BBQ it, eat it and format his hard drive.

Megatron96
08-30-2023, 06:56 PM
3 of them? What, are they breeding in here?

KCUnited
08-30-2023, 06:58 PM
Lol, if this was a week 5 game I'd put a paycheck on the chiefs money line. But week one is always crazy to predict. Lots of rust and new players not experienced in the system. Weird things always happen.

Nobody here needs your garnished child support

HC_Chief
08-30-2023, 07:11 PM
I've been to Kansas City...

Civilized world is pretty nice, innit?

TwistedChief
08-30-2023, 07:20 PM
You know if the Lions fan base had a Clay, right now he'd be making memes with Jared Goff as Murphy coming back from the dead and blowing up Pat-209 before heading into Arrowhead and blasting Clark Hunt out the top window.

But they don't have a Clay. Or a Mahomes. Or a Hunt. Poverty franchise. They cower before our might.

We're going to peel Murphy's skin off his robot face, BBQ it, eat it and format his hard drive.

This is a lot of third person, even for you.

ptlyon
08-30-2023, 07:38 PM
You know if the Lions fan base had a Clay, right now he'd be making memes with Jared Goff as Murphy coming back from the dead and blowing up Pat-209 before heading into Arrowhead and blasting Clark Hunt out the top window.

But they don't have a Clay. Or a Mahomes. Or a Hunt. Poverty franchise. They cower before our might.

We're going to peel Murphy's skin off his robot face, BBQ it, eat it and format his hard drive.

Should've left him locked up

Dunerdr
08-30-2023, 07:43 PM
Does anyone remember how early the banner ceremony started last time?

Hammock Parties
08-30-2023, 07:47 PM
Should've left him locked up

https://media.tenor.com/kajNTryMGhEAAAAC/wall-want.gif

ptlyon
08-30-2023, 07:58 PM
.

Yeah, an adult with the character of a 12 year old who still plays with his star wars dolls and drives a murano is JUST who we need speaking for CP, let alone the Chiefs organization...

Titty Meat
08-30-2023, 08:50 PM
Now there are Lions fans all of sudden?

Everyone loves an under dog and they had a nice run last year. I think we win as long as we bring some energy. After watching Alex Smith slice carve up the defending Champs in 2017 I'll never rule anything out. Week 1 can be weird in the NFL

Titty Meat
08-30-2023, 08:50 PM
Yeah, an adult with the character of a 12 year old who still plays with his star wars dolls and drives a murano is JUST who we need speaking for CP, let alone the Chiefs organization...

He blows bigger loads than u keep hating

Raiderhater
08-30-2023, 09:05 PM
3 of them? What, are they breeding in here?

Like rabbits

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FakeOrneryHarlequinbug-size_restricted.gif

Megatron96
08-31-2023, 01:16 AM
Like rabbits

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FakeOrneryHarlequinbug-size_restricted.gif



ROFL
The lack of interest by the girl bunny, while the buck throws what has to be his hero fuck is just about the funniest thing I've seen in at least a year.

He does his Clint Eastwood squint as he drives it home, and she's all, "that's it? I coulda been doing my knitting . . ."

RaidersOftheCellar
08-31-2023, 01:23 AM
This is a lot of third person, even for you.

LMAO

RaidersOftheCellar
08-31-2023, 01:34 AM
Defense is much better than its record last year would indicate. Over the last 10 games points against went down to 21 per. Lots of players got healthy and rookies stepped up. This off-season the entire secondary save one safety was upgraded, and that was the weakness. And the one safety retained was a rookie last year, and was super good. D line is loaded with pass rushers. LB corps is stacked. Biggest question mark is DT and run defense.

They won't be a top 5 unit, but I expect top 12-15. Which is good enough if the offense can repeat its top 5 performance. I expect some regression there, but the team is built to compete with anyone. The Champs in Arrowhead is a tall task. KC should rightly be favored, but the game will be competitive. Throw in typical early season variance and I wouldn't be shocked to see an upset.

I won't claim to know much about the defensive talent that Detroit added, but they were #32 in opponent yards per play. 6.2. If they needed a huge improvement over the last 10 games to achieve that number, that's pretty awful.

A top 12-15 D seems a little optimistic.

duncan_idaho
08-31-2023, 05:54 AM
It is nice to see some opposing fans in here who are not flaming dildos.

I think we’re going to see points go up on both sides but will never bet against bye week Andy Reid, especially when Cam Sutton and Emmanuel Mosley are the starting corners for the team Reid is facing.

I’m sure Chauncey Gardner-Johnson is hyped for this one, but he’s gonna lose his second straight to the Chiefs.

Molitoth
08-31-2023, 06:38 AM
How are the Lions your second favorite team? You must live in Michigan or something.

No, I'm a KC local.

But as an early teen, Barry Sanders became my favorite player and I found myself watching any Lions game that was televised until he retired.

Raiderhater
08-31-2023, 06:44 AM
ROFL
The lack of interest by the girl bunny, while the buck throws what has to be his hero fuck is just about the funniest thing I've seen in at least a year.

He does his Clint Eastwood squint as he drives it home, and she's all, "that's it? I coulda been doing my knitting . . ."

Oh yeah, I came across that and was yep, that’s the one I’m using. It just hit a little differently than the other options.

KSCHIEF
08-31-2023, 07:55 AM
I think we carve them up pretty bad offensively. I do think they have an improving defense but they will be relying on a rookie MLB and a rookie 3rd safety who will play a lot against how Reid likes to lineup. Two middle of the field rookies playing for the first time in NFL... in primetime... against PMII... sign me up.

KSCHIEF
08-31-2023, 08:01 AM
I'm sure Lions fans are equal parts excited & nervous to see how their team looks. Goff better figure out how to play better on the road. His home/road splits are rough

2022:
HOME: 2,472 yards 65.8 comp% 7.7 Avg 23 TD 3 INT 109.3 Rating
AWAY: 1,966 yards 64.2 comp% 7.3 Avg 6 TD 4 INT 87.4 Rating

2021:
HOME: 1,900 yards 70.5 comp% 6.7 Avg 13 TD 3 INT 99.4 Rating
AWAY: 1,345 yards 62.7 comp% 6.4 Avg 6 TD 5 INT 80.7 Rating

tredadda
08-31-2023, 08:12 AM
That’s a normal welcome to CP. And he’s one of the nicer ones.

Please forgive us. We used to be friendlier when fans of opposing teams who have been hapless in the same way that we were pre-Mahomes would show up. But then Bengals fans came around a couple seasons ago and we welcomed them with amusement, only for that team to become the most obnoxious and arrogant and their fans to follow.

I find it hard to believe anyone could ever truly hate the Detroit Lions. So we wish you well outside of the opener.

Actually I think the constant onslaught by Broncos and Patriots fans when they were good started it all. It got absolutely out of control in the 2019 Season AFCCG against Tennessee followed by Niner "fans" leading up to the SB. I do agree though that the Bengals were the worst. The most cringe worthy of all was the Cincy mayor and his comments last year.

tredadda
08-31-2023, 08:15 AM
First time poster here and a lifelong Detroit Lion fan (since '68). Have never seen the Lions on the road until this coming Sept. 7th. Was a season ticket holder from '77 to '84 and still go to two or three games a year. Us Lion fans have very thick skin and can take almost anything. Trust me, we heard it all through the decades.

Loved watching as a wee lad, those great KC/Oak games. Thats what got me hooked on the sport. Have family south of KC and have driven by Arrowhead. Looking forward to actually going to a game there, let alone a nationally televised opener. Curious to hear if the stadium is as loud as the old Silverdome during Barry's years was. Can't miss me, I'll be the old fart in Lions gear. If you're interested, please come visit our forum "Detroit Lions The Den". Hope this doesn't break a rule.

For the game, we didn't play any starters of last year's team during preseason. Having two joint sessions (NYG & Jax), the starters got their work there. Came thought relatively injury free. We have gotten deeper on all three levels of the defense, via a solid draft and key FA signings. Expect heavy DL/LB rotations, we are deep here. Fourth quarter will be interesting.

This is the first game in over two years with starting Oline (Decker, JJackson, Ragnow, BigV & Sewell). Also have a brand-new upgraded RB room, but feel we are weaker at WR than last year. Hopefully rookie TE LaPorta can fill the void. Should be a helava game! Of course, hoping for a Lion win and making it out of there alive.

GOOD LUCK!

Where in south KC is your family. Welcome to the board. There are a ton of people on here with a ton of knowledge about football, but you need a thick skin to survive. The mods are generally more tolerant than on most boards, but that freedom has caused some opposing fans to refer to this place as a cespool or Mos Eisley. Oh and good luck on the season, just not week 1.

tredadda
08-31-2023, 08:25 AM
WTF. All 3 Lions fans joined? Nice.

Still more than Charger fans.

tredadda
08-31-2023, 08:32 AM
Defense is much better than its record last year would indicate. Over the last 10 games points against went down to 21 per. Lots of players got healthy and rookies stepped up. This off-season the entire secondary save one safety was upgraded, and that was the weakness. And the one safety retained was a rookie last year, and was super good. D line is loaded with pass rushers. LB corps is stacked. Biggest question mark is DT and run defense.

They won't be a top 5 unit, but I expect top 12-15. Which is good enough if the offense can repeat its top 5 performance. I expect some regression there, but the team is built to compete with anyone. The Champs in Arrowhead is a tall task. KC should rightly be favored, but the game will be competitive. Throw in typical early season variance and I wouldn't be shocked to see an upset.

While an upset is possible, so is a blowout win for KC. The Lions are up and coming, but as teams keep finding out KC is much better than they realized. They have hosted five straight AFCCGs (a record), been to three out of the last four SBs with a 2-1 record in them and were an offsides and poor half by the offense from being in five straight SBs. This is all while playing in the significantly more difficult AFC. No matter how much people predict the demise of KC, they continue to be the gold standard in the NFL.

ptlyon
08-31-2023, 08:33 AM
WTF. All 3 Lions fans joined? Nice.

I personally know 4 lions fans, and one that has passed never seeing them in a SB. RIP Nick. His nephew played for the Seahawks back when they played in the AFCW.

Hammock Parties
08-31-2023, 08:57 AM
I'm sure Lions fans are equal parts excited & nervous to see how their team looks. Goff better figure out how to play better on the road. His home/road splits are rough

2022:
HOME: 2,472 yards 65.8 comp% 7.7 Avg 23 TD 3 INT 109.3 Rating
AWAY: 1,966 yards 64.2 comp% 7.3 Avg 6 TD 4 INT 87.4 Rating

2021:
HOME: 1,900 yards 70.5 comp% 6.7 Avg 13 TD 3 INT 99.4 Rating
AWAY: 1,345 yards 62.7 comp% 6.4 Avg 6 TD 5 INT 80.7 Rating

Excellent post. Goff is fake news.

Red Dawg
08-31-2023, 09:24 AM
Let's hope we come out and establish the run. Pound our RB's up Humphreys ass straight into their DL the entire first quarter. Doesn't matter if it leads to points, we must let them know we are tough and will run the ball all day if we need to. We may not win the game but this will put the league on notice that we are not weak.

ptlyon
08-31-2023, 09:29 AM
If we lose, on opening night, dropping the SB banner and hoisting the Lombardi, then we are weak.

Bearcat
08-31-2023, 09:34 AM
Let's hope we come out and establish the run. .

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AdolfOliverBush
08-31-2023, 10:02 AM
The only thing I have against the Lions is that they wasted the entire careers of the best RB in NFL history, and one of the best WRs in NFL history.

duncan_idaho
08-31-2023, 10:24 AM
You're snarky. Can we be friends?

As long as you don't start throwing up nonsense nonfactual things about how your team is going to dominate the Chiefs in a way that doesn't actually work and has been proven not to work, we'll be all good.

Trust me, it's a friendly greeting.

BitterSyd
08-31-2023, 10:56 AM
The only thing I have against the Lions is that they wasted the entire careers of the best RB in NFL history, and one of the best WRs in NFL history.

Believe us, we know. That's why we all want to rip that fucking "WCF" off their sleeves. You can write a book on the bullshit we've put up with for over 60 years. For the most part, we're a peaceful bunch because of being smacked so often.

A win Sept. 7th helps that stigma. Is we lose, meh, it's only game one.

Molitoth
08-31-2023, 11:44 AM
My Barry Sanders card collection from the 90's had to have been one of the greatest in the country at one point. I still have them all hoping they could be worth something someday.

tredadda
08-31-2023, 11:50 AM
Believe us, we know. That's why we all want to rip that fucking "WCF" off their sleeves. You can write a book on the bullshit we've put up with for over 60 years. For the most part, we're a peaceful bunch because of being smacked so often.

A win Sept. 7th helps that stigma. Is we lose, meh, it's only game one.

I definitely would be fascinated by seeing that. I have no clue how any organization can be that mismanaged for that long, especially when the system is designed to help bad teams become good. 60+ years of relative futility is mind numbing to me.

AdolfOliverBush
08-31-2023, 11:54 AM
I definitely would be fascinated by seeing that. I have no clue how any organization can be that mismanaged for that long, especially when the system is designed to help bad teams become good. 60+ years of relative futility is mind numbing to me.

They're sticking with the Carl Peterson philosophy of QB selection.

tredadda
08-31-2023, 11:55 AM
They're sticking with the Carl Peterson philosophy of QB selection.

For 60+ years?

AdolfOliverBush
08-31-2023, 11:55 AM
For 60+ years?

They are persistent. Lol

Pepe Silvia
08-31-2023, 01:17 PM
WTF. All 3 Lions fans joined? Nice.

Now this is funny.

Molitoth
08-31-2023, 01:57 PM
They're sticking with the Carl Peterson philosophy of QB selection.

I mean, they did have Stafford.... but yeah, pretty miserable QB's on the Lions.

mr. tegu
08-31-2023, 02:05 PM
Lol, if this was a week 5 game I'd put a paycheck on the chiefs money line. But week one is always crazy to predict. Lots of rust and new players not experienced in the system. Weird things always happen.


The weirdest thing that has happened to the Chiefs with Mahomes in week 1 was the ONE time they didn’t win by double digits.

KCJake
08-31-2023, 03:13 PM
Let's hope we come out and establish the run. Pound our RB's up Humphreys ass straight into their DL the entire first quarter. Doesn't matter if it leads to points, we must let them know we are tough and will run the ball all day if we need to. We may not win the game but this will put the league on notice that we are not weak.

This is probably the worst idea ever

Red Dawg
08-31-2023, 03:17 PM
This is probably the worst idea ever

It's a joke. Old guys like me remember the days where this is what happened.

BitterSyd
08-31-2023, 03:43 PM
I think we’re going to see points go up on both sides but will never bet against bye week Andy Reid, especially when Cam Sutton and Emmanuel Mosley are the starting corners for the team Reid is facing.

I’m sure Chauncey Gardner-Johnson is hyped for this one, but he’s gonna lose his second straight to the Chiefs.

Doubt you'll see a lot of Moseley. Stupid to throw him out there so soon IMO. Instead, it will be Jacobs, in which doesn't give me a warm fuzzy. Hopefully the deep rotation of the Dline will give Mahomes fits. I pray, at least...

BitterSyd
08-31-2023, 03:46 PM
Where in south KC is your family. Welcome to the board.

Family in Iola & Lawrence, they are my tour guides at Arrowhead.

tredadda
08-31-2023, 03:51 PM
Doubt you'll see a lot of Moseley. Stupid to throw him out there so soon IMO. Instead, it will be Jacobs, in which doesn't give me a warm fuzzy. Hopefully the deep rotation of the Dline will give Mahomes fits. I pray, at least...

I doubt that. Very hard to give Mahomes fits, plus the Oline (barring injury) will be even better than last year. I like the Lions and hope they have a great season. They could always win this game, and if they do it will definitely be an upset. But just like Philly last year in the SB, the Lions haven't seen a team or QB like this in a long while.

tredadda
08-31-2023, 03:54 PM
Family in Iola & Lawrence, they are my tour guides at Arrowhead.

Ahhh, gotcha. You should enjoy yourself at Arrowhead.

BitterSyd
08-31-2023, 03:55 PM
I doubt that. Very hard to give Mahomes fits, plus the Oline (barring injury) will be even better than last year. I like the Lions and hope they have a great season. They could always win this game, and if they do it will definitely be an upset. But just like Philly last year in the SB, the Lions haven't seen a team or QB like this in a long while.

Should have beaten fucking Josh Allen last Thanksgiving. Just sayin'.

tredadda
08-31-2023, 04:08 PM
Should have beaten fucking Josh Allen last Thanksgiving. Just sayin'.

Correct, and I was pulling for you all to do just that for selfish seeding reasons. KC is not Buffalo though. They won the SB last year starting or having 8 rookies play significant minutes. Let's not discount just how much of a difference that makes. This same team that won the SB didn't even lose anyone of significance. They will be tough again.

duncan_idaho
08-31-2023, 04:27 PM
Should have beaten fucking Josh Allen last Thanksgiving. Just sayin'.


Josh Allen ain’t Mahomes.

The Bills OL isn’t as good as last year’s Chiefs OL and sure as hell not as good as this one.

And Ken fucking Dorsey isn’t close to Matt Nagy, let alone Andy Reid, as a play designer and playcaller.

BitterSyd
08-31-2023, 04:32 PM
Fully aware Mahomes is #1. Just amped to see how we respond. This is all new stuff to us. You remember, when you were shit for so long.

Not a shot, well maybe...lol

BitterSyd
08-31-2023, 04:36 PM
Oh, crap. I typed "lol".

Credibility shot to shit...

mr. tegu
08-31-2023, 04:38 PM
Talking about almost beating Allen is still way better then Eagles fans talking up their defense after beating Jones and whatever that was the 49ers threw out there when trying to convince people they would slow down Mahomes.

Megatron96
08-31-2023, 04:40 PM
Fully aware Mahomes is #1. Just amped to see how we respond. This is all new stuff to us. You remember, when you were shit for so long.

Not a shot, well maybe...lol



Personally, I have high hopes for DET this season. other than Week 1, I hope the Lions have a great year.

For Week 1, I sincerely hope the game is very competitive. DET and their fanbase need to see a solid performance against the SB champs. Would be a good start to their season.

ReLion
08-31-2023, 05:18 PM
Chris Jones is pretty significant. JuJu was your leading wideout. Team still a very good team, but everyone has significant roster loses year to year.

duncan_idaho
08-31-2023, 05:37 PM
Chris Jones is pretty significant. JuJu was your leading wideout. Team still a very good team, but everyone has significant roster loses year to year.


Chris Jones’ status is still uncertain but yes, a major loss if he doesn’t play (and less than his usual form even if he does).

I know Smith-Schuster is a name, but don’t be surprised when one of Skyy Moore/Rashee Rice/Richie James fills the role and targets he got and is better than him.

He was productive for KC, but it was less about him being physically impressive and more about him filling the role in the offense, being schemes open, and having a solid feel against zone coverage.

Hog Rider
08-31-2023, 05:37 PM
bittersyd and Relion, welcome to CP.

Be prepared for anti-freeze and aids fire. It means we love you and thanks for stopping by.

So FU!

Pablo
08-31-2023, 05:40 PM
Chris Jones is pretty significant. JuJu was your leading wideout. Team still a very good team, but everyone has significant roster loses year to year.

Yeah, Pat is just gonna have to make sure we win this game 45-30 or so.

I know the Lions are gonna put up points on us, they were going to w/ Jones in the mix, but that will just make Pat go even harder into god mode.

Pablo
08-31-2023, 05:42 PM
I do like Dan Campbell and I will actively seek to watch Lions games this year and I don't know that I've done that ever. Aside from the thanksgiving stuffing we usually get

tredadda
08-31-2023, 06:27 PM
Fully aware Mahomes is #1. Just amped to see how we respond. This is all new stuff to us. You remember, when you were shit for so long.

Not a shot, well maybe...lol

We were just that way in the playoffs for the most part. A good number here don't remember the awful Chiefs teams of the 70's until Marty. It's all good and you have reason to be optimistic. The Lions looked good the second half of last year and appear to be the front runner for the NFCN this year. Excited to see how they perform in prime time.

tredadda
08-31-2023, 06:34 PM
Chris Jones is pretty significant. JuJu was your leading wideout. Team still a very good team, but everyone has significant roster loses year to year.

Not having Jones will hurt no doubt, especially against that offense. I can't imagine there is no plan B with no Jones. He could have been at camp and suffered a season ending injury and we would still be in the same spot.

JuJu did his job here, but is not a loss.
Mecole was a fast, gimmick player
Orlando "I-57" Brown Jr being gone is an addition by subtraction.
Same for Wylie, except Juwan Taylor is an upgrade.
Thornhill was solid, but not a huge loss.
Frank Clark is the biggest name loss and he was cut. He's the Tasmanian Devil in the playoffs, but a TeleTubbie in the regular season.

KC really is returning a huge portion of the roster that won a SB, without Tyreek. They will be a tough game every week.

rfaulk34
08-31-2023, 07:08 PM
That’s a normal welcome to CP. And he’s one of the nicer ones.

Please forgive us. We used to be friendlier when fans of opposing teams who have been hapless in the same way that we were pre-Mahomes would show up. But then Bengals fans came around a couple seasons ago and we welcomed them with amusement, only for that team to become the most obnoxious and arrogant and their fans to follow.

I find it hard to believe anyone could ever truly hate the Detroit Lions. So we wish you well outside of the opener.

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BigRedChief
08-31-2023, 08:46 PM
Lions can’t put up 30 points on us. Without that number, no chance.

scho63
09-01-2023, 04:59 AM
Not sure why but I feel like we are going to have a sloppy first game.

Win by 6 with a garbage time TD by Lions.

Rainbarrel
09-01-2023, 06:51 AM
Do they have a home board called The Mane?

Rainbarrel
09-01-2023, 08:27 AM
PMII week 1

5-0
1542 YRDS
18TDS
0 INTS
133.9 Passer rating
3 X AFC Offensive Player of the Week

In58men
09-01-2023, 11:03 AM
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In58men
09-01-2023, 11:05 AM
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BleedingRed
09-01-2023, 11:08 AM
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I'm telling yall Ross/Rice are in their plans... Nagy is going to have us going 4 Wide ALOT I think.

Maybe even some 4 wide 1 te sets. We are 100% going to stretch defenses out even more this year.

I think this is why they let Brown leave. They knew he was ass in pass pro. If we have 3/4 WR on the field running different route trees someone is going to open up 2-5 seconds each play. I do think we see more delayed handoff/wheel routes from RB's this year too.

I talked myself into it... Mahome is going to set all time TD/Passing Yards record this year and win back to back MVP's

Mecca
09-01-2023, 11:09 AM
I'm telling yall Ross/Rice are in their plans... Nagy is going to have us going 4 Wide ALOT I think.

Maybe even some 4 wide 1 te sets. We are 100% going to stretch defenses out even more this year.

I think this is why they let Brown leave. They knew he was ass in pass pro. If we have 3/4 WR on the field running different route trees someone is going to open up 2-5 seconds each play. I do think we see more delayed handoff/wheel routes from RB's this year too.

I talked myself into it... Mahome is going to set all time TD/Passing Yards record this year and win back to back MVP's

Most teams have 3 WR's on the field pretty much all the time...

WhawhaWhat
09-01-2023, 11:22 AM
Detroit Lions vs. Kansas City Chiefs | 2023 Week 1 Game Preview

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ModSocks
09-01-2023, 11:24 AM
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So that means KT is practicing then? Nice.

BleedingRed
09-01-2023, 11:39 AM
Most teams have 3 WR's on the field pretty much all the time...

Yeah but not alot go 4 wide with a TE that is also a WR basically. Defenses are not going to have 5 guys who can keep up with these groups every play.

BEAVER
09-01-2023, 12:02 PM
Defense is much better than its record last year would indicate. Over the last 10 games points against went down to 21 per. Lots of players got healthy and rookies stepped up. This off-season the entire secondary save one safety was upgraded, and that was the weakness. And the one safety retained was a rookie last year, and was super good. D line is loaded with pass rushers. LB corps is stacked. Biggest question mark is DT and run defense.

They won't be a top 5 unit, but I expect top 12-15. Which is good enough if the offense can repeat its top 5 performance. I expect some regression there, but the team is built to compete with anyone. The Champs in Arrowhead is a tall task. KC should rightly be favored, but the game will be competitive. Throw in typical early season variance and I wouldn't be shocked to see an upset.

How many points did they give up to Geno Smith last year? Asking for a friend.

BEAVER
09-01-2023, 12:03 PM
Now there are Lions fans all of sudden?

I've only ever met one lion fan in real life. These guys have to be Mults.

Pasta Little Brioni
09-01-2023, 12:08 PM
Excellent post. Goff is fake news.

He just BARELY eclipsed Matty Cassel and the 2010 fraud Chiefs. 29-7 instead of 27-7

Pasta Little Brioni
09-01-2023, 12:10 PM
Should have beaten fucking Josh Allen last Thanksgiving. Just sayin'.

Allen? He said you've never faced a QB like Mahomes and that definitely includes him

BEAVER
09-01-2023, 12:11 PM
Still more than Charger fans.

I work with one of those. He doesn't say much - just drools a lot and mumbles about always going for it on fourth down.

Pasta Little Brioni
09-01-2023, 12:13 PM
I fired up a Madden 22 chise with updated rosters and moved the Lions to Mexico City...

In58men
09-01-2023, 03:08 PM
“Unofficial” depth chart

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Red Dawg
09-01-2023, 03:12 PM
Establish the run.

Hog's Gone Fishin
09-01-2023, 03:12 PM
“Unofficial” depth chart

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Chenal ahead of Tranquill . pleasant surprise

Megatron96
09-01-2023, 03:26 PM
So, apparently their DC is Aaron Glenn, a coach right off the Fangio/Parcells tree. However, in DET land, they say he likes to run a lot of man, single high S. So not a lot of two-high shell. Of course, I'll bet a stack of hundreds as tall as me that he tries to disguise his looks often, but he's going to run a lot of man, probably.

So this might be a better test than I originally thought, especially if they try to jam our WRs a lot. Should be a good test to start the season.

tredadda
09-01-2023, 03:35 PM
I work with one of those. He doesn't say much - just drools a lot and mumbles about always going for it on fourth down.

They are the only team in the league that even playing at home are still considered the visitors.

BitterSyd
09-01-2023, 04:23 PM
So, apparently their DC is Aaron Glenn, a coach right off the Fangio/Parcells tree. However, in DET land, they say he likes to run a lot of man, single high S. So not a lot of two-high shell. Of course, I'll bet a stack of hundreds as tall as me that he tries to disguise his looks often, but he's going to run a lot of man, probably.

So this might be a better test than I originally thought, especially if they try to jam our WRs a lot. Should be a good test to start the season.

Decent analogy, nothing really to debate. Just like to add that we are so young and deep on D, we don't even know what to expect, especially in your house. This D is totally different from the first half of last season. Sure it will be heavy rotation on all three levels. If we are still in it in the fourth quarter, I'll feel pretty good.

Megatron96
09-01-2023, 04:43 PM
Decent analogy, nothing really to debate. Just like to add that we are so young and deep on D, we don't even know what to expect, especially in your house. This D is totally different from the first half of last season. Sure it will be heavy rotation on all three levels. If we are still in it in the fourth quarter, I'll feel pretty good.



I'm pretty sure it'll be a close game. If I bet the game, I'd probably pick the under. A lot depends on just how physical your DL/OL play, imo. If they come out firing, the way they did in the couple games i saw last season (sometime after Week 14?), they'll be a tough out for KC. Your guys were really violent at the snap in those games. Was fun to watch.

Rainbarrel
09-01-2023, 05:01 PM
Widening the gap in the score, is not normally an Andy Reid allowance

RunKC
09-01-2023, 05:03 PM
I didn't realize that Jared Goff has never played at Arrowhead before. It's the only stadium he hasn't played in.

Yeah that's not gonna be good pal

Pasta Little Brioni
09-01-2023, 06:17 PM
So, apparently their DC is Aaron Glenn, a coach right off the Fangio/Parcells tree. However, in DET land, they say he likes to run a lot of man, single high S. So not a lot of two-high shell. Of course, I'll bet a stack of hundreds as tall as me that he tries to disguise his looks often, but he's going to run a lot of man, probably.

So this might be a better test than I originally thought, especially if they try to jam our WRs a lot. Should be a good test to start the season.

They're fucked if they try to run that ROFL

Bowser
09-01-2023, 06:22 PM
I'm pretty sure it'll be a close game. If I bet the game, I'd probably pick the under. A lot depends on just how physical your DL/OL play, imo. If they come out firing, the way they did in the couple games i saw last season (sometime after Week 14?), they'll be a tough out for KC. Your guys were really violent at the snap in those games. Was fun to watch.

I think it'll be high scoring, especially if Jones isn't in there. Goff looked like a legit QB for the first time in a long time towards the end of last year, and if we can't pressure him without blitzing they're gonna score on us. Could end up being a shootout.

Stryker
09-01-2023, 07:22 PM
Lions have probably one of the better Olines in the NFL. With JG and Amon St whatever the fuck this team is projected to win their division over GB, MINN and Chicago. I think we will win but it will be very close like the last preseason game against the Stains.

HC_Chief
09-01-2023, 07:55 PM
Vermeil Chiefs. These guys can score a shitload of points, but will give up same/more. Best case scenario for Detroit in this game: high scoring shootout. Worst case: KC boat race.

Megatron96
09-01-2023, 10:03 PM
I think it'll be high scoring, especially if Jones isn't in there. Goff looked like a legit QB for the first time in a long time towards the end of last year, and if we can't pressure him without blitzing they're gonna score on us. Could end up being a shootout.



Ah, yeah, I agree. I had a brainfart; i meant I'd bet DET to cover, not the Under. If CJ doesn't play, I have a feeling it's going to be a little bit of a shootout. Maybe even if he does; he probably isn't in game shape yet.

BitterSyd
09-02-2023, 04:00 PM
I'm pretty sure it'll be a close game. If I bet the game, I'd probably pick the under. A lot depends on just how physical your DL/OL play, imo. If they come out firing, the way they did in the couple games i saw last season (sometime after Week 14?), they'll be a tough out for KC. Your guys were really violent at the snap in those games. Was fun to watch.

Biting kneecaps...

BWillie
09-02-2023, 04:10 PM
I'm telling yall Ross/Rice are in their plans... Nagy is going to have us going 4 Wide ALOT I think.

Maybe even some 4 wide 1 te sets. We are 100% going to stretch defenses out even more this year.

I think this is why they let Brown leave. They knew he was ass in pass pro. If we have 3/4 WR on the field running different route trees someone is going to open up 2-5 seconds each play. I do think we see more delayed handoff/wheel routes from RB's this year too.

I talked myself into it... Mahome is going to set all time TD/Passing Yards record this year and win back to back MVP's

Ive never thought Brown was very good. I feel bad for Joe Burrow.

RINGLEADER
09-02-2023, 04:10 PM
I’ll stick with the trends of Mahomes in 5 opening day starts:

121/167 (avg 72.5% completion percentage)
1542 yards (avg 308.4 ypg)
18 TDs (avg 3.6 TDs per game)
0 INTs
Passer Rating: 136.86

Chiefs - 189 (avg 37.8ppg)
Oppo - 124 (avg 24.8ppg)

Chiefshrink
09-02-2023, 06:01 PM
They are the only team in the league that even playing at home are still considered the visitors.

Let's hope we don't play with a "SB hangover" against these guys because the Lions 'will run on us'(with success) I assure you especially with CJ being out. They have nothing to lose and everything to play for to spark their 'rise from the cellar' tour. Just saying.:shrug:

Megatron96
09-02-2023, 06:10 PM
DET has some pretty nice offensive weapons, they say they've dramatically improved their secondary, and they think they have a top-5 OL. Without CJ, this Lions team is kind of built to play a team like ours.

Fortunately, it's a non-conference game, so a loss isn't that big of a deal. We were going to probably lose 3-4 games anyway, CJ or no.

BitterSyd
09-02-2023, 06:50 PM
I’ll stick with the trends of Mahomes in 5 opening day starts:

121/167 (avg 72.5% completion percentage)
1542 yards (avg 308.4 ypg)
18 TDs (avg 3.6 TDs per game)
0 INTs
Passer Rating: 136.86

Chiefs - 189 (avg 37.8ppg)
Oppo - 124 (avg 24.8ppg)

Mahomes is really only a man…

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mlyonsd
09-02-2023, 06:52 PM
I'm rooting for the lions to overcome their 0-1 start and win their division.

BitterSyd
09-02-2023, 07:43 PM
I'm rooting for the lions to overcome their 0-1 start and win their division.


I'd go for that. But nah, 1-0 sounds better.

mlyonsd
09-02-2023, 07:59 PM
I'd go for that. But nah, 1-0 sounds better.I had a longtime lion fan at work I knew since 1984. Every year about this time his saying was the cream is rising to the top. He died not ever seeing the lions in a SB. So I understand your username.

Good luck starting week 2.

Hammock Parties
09-02-2023, 09:13 PM
Mark Brunell is the Lions QB coach. Intredasting.

Hammock Parties
09-03-2023, 10:38 AM
LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All I&#39;m going to say is if you let the numbers fool you you&#39;re in for a surprise.<br><br>1½ of those games for Jared Goff was without Amon-Ra St Brown and 3 of those games were without DJ Chark.<br><br>Having a full arsenal of weapons will not be an issue in Arrowhead.<br><br>You&#39;re about to be… <a href="https://t.co/FO5HmlFnGs">https://t.co/FO5HmlFnGs</a></p>&mdash; �� Brad Villain Holmes Honolulu Blue Kool-aid �� (@DumasMike) <a href="https://twitter.com/DumasMike/status/1698373582902989134?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KC Hawks
09-03-2023, 10:59 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs’ HC Andy Reid told reporters that Kadarius Toney, who missed much of camp with a lingering knee injury, is “good to go” for Week 1 vs. the Lions.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1698379400352276902?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Rainbarrel
09-03-2023, 11:01 AM
Looking at the 2022 schedule. I don't see the Lion love, at all. Jets, Giants, Bears oh my!

tredadda
09-03-2023, 11:07 AM
Let's hope we don't play with a "SB hangover" against these guys because the Lions 'will run on us'(with success) I assure you especially with CJ being out. They have nothing to lose and everything to play for to spark their 'rise from the cellar' tour. Just saying.:shrug:

I was referring to the LAC. But I doubt KC is taking the Lions for granted.

Hammock Parties
09-03-2023, 01:45 PM
hahahaha

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In those 5 games he played 1 good team (12-4 Chargers) and he had 256 yards (w/ Tyreek Hill catching 169 of them). <br><br>The other games:<br>4-13 Cards<br>8-9 Browns<br>4-12 Texans<br>6-10 Jags<br><br>No one is doubting Pat is great, but this opening week greatness narrative is overblown. By a lot.</p>&mdash; 313.GRIT (@Stevie_G86) <a href="https://twitter.com/Stevie_G86/status/1698420653911871676?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Megatron96
09-03-2023, 01:57 PM
Watched a few DET preseason highlight reels. Saw something i haven't seen this year anywhere else.

DET played press man complete with jams across the board, a lot. In preseason. So this will be a great test for our new WR room, if they come out playing like that.

other notes: LB play was okay, not great. But I admit I wasn't sure which LBs were 1s and which weren't in many clips. resolution was kind of grainy zoomed in.

DET didn't seem that good vs. the run.

They seem to have a fleet of very fast play-makers.

tredadda
09-03-2023, 02:05 PM
Watched a few DET preseason highlight reels. Saw something i haven't seen this year anywhere else.

DET played press man complete with jams across the board, a lot. In preseason. So this will be a great test for our new WR room, if they come out playing like that.

other notes: LB play was okay, not great. But I admit I wasn't sure which LBs were 1s and which weren't in many clips. resolution was kind of grainy zoomed in.

DET didn't seem that good vs. the run.

They seem to have a fleet of very fast play-makers.

Good for them

Chris Meck
09-03-2023, 02:47 PM
As always, the opponent doesn't really matter. If The Chiefs execute, they'll win. If they fuck around with their food, they could lose.

Hog's Gone Fishin
09-03-2023, 03:01 PM
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Megatron96
09-03-2023, 05:11 PM
I think it'll be high scoring, especially if Jones isn't in there. Goff looked like a legit QB for the first time in a long time towards the end of last year, and if we can't pressure him without blitzing they're gonna score on us. Could end up being a shootout.



Just checked: Goff was 3rd in the NFL last season vs. the blitz. That seems like a typo to me, as I remember him being kind of shitty vs. the blitz back in 2019. But everyone's reporting that he was the 3rd best QB vs. the blitz last year.

smithandrew051
09-03-2023, 06:08 PM
Without Jones, the Lions have a good chance of keeping the game within 40

Chiefshrink
09-03-2023, 09:18 PM
Every team attempts to keep Pat on the sidelines as much as they can with the run and the Lions will be successful against us with the run. Lions will be no different because Campbell knows he does not want to get into a track meet against Pat in Arrowhead on opening night although Goff did win their last track meet when he was in LA. But that was when Pat was much less experienced yet Pat dang near pulled that one out. Apples to oranges now. It forces Pat to be more perfect on just about every possession but not against the Lions. If we don't turn the ball over and execute on offense our defense just has to be mediocre and we should win as Meck says.:thumb:

Chiefshrink
09-03-2023, 09:20 PM
Without Jones, the Lions have a good chance of keeping the game within 40

40 total points or just keeping Pat under 40?:p

cdcox
09-03-2023, 10:57 PM
I’ll stick with the trends of Mahomes in 5 opening day starts:

121/167 (avg 72.5% completion percentage)
1542 yards (avg 308.4 ypg)
18 TDs (avg 3.6 TDs per game)
0 INTs
Passer Rating: 136.86

Chiefs - 189 (avg 37.8ppg)
Oppo - 124 (avg 24.8ppg)

Yeah, Andy has been scheming new stuff all off-season. He likes to test drive the new concepts in week 1 to make sure they are good with the new personnel. Then he wraps them up and puts them away for critical situations and the playoffs. Week 1 is the one week all year when we can count on seeing a good portion of the play book.

cdcox
09-03-2023, 11:04 PM
hahahaha

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In those 5 games he played 1 good team (12-4 Chargers) and he had 256 yards (w/ Tyreek Hill catching 169 of them). <br><br>The other games:<br>4-13 Cards<br>8-9 Browns<br>4-12 Texans<br>6-10 Jags<br><br>No one is doubting Pat is great, but this opening week greatness narrative is overblown. By a lot.</p>&mdash; 313.GRIT (@Stevie_G86) <a href="https://twitter.com/Stevie_G86/status/1698420653911871676?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What 313.GRIT isn't remembering is that the Cards, Browns, and Texans were all projected as top teams in their conference going into those games. Kinda like *cough* the Lions.

smithandrew051
09-03-2023, 11:17 PM
What 313.GRIT isn't remembering is that the Cards, Browns, and Texans were all projected as top teams in their conference going into those games. Kinda like *cough* the Lions.

He’s also downplaying the Charger game when Mahomes won AFC Offensive Player of the Week in his second career (first meaningful) start.

ThyKingdomCome15
09-04-2023, 03:44 AM
Derrick Nnadi is my favorite player this week.

Hammock Parties
09-04-2023, 08:16 AM
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dirk digler
09-04-2023, 11:20 AM
Sounds like Ross will be active so we could probably see all 7 WR's active

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> ST coordinator Dave Toub says that Justyn Ross will play special teams.</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1698740920680952146?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Delano
09-04-2023, 11:31 AM
Sounds like Ross will be active so we could probably see all 7 WR's active

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> ST coordinator Dave Toub says that Justyn Ross will play special teams.</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1698740920680952146?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Who will be inactive? The guys they claimed after cuts? I think Morris will be inactive most of the year. Maybe Allegretti or Calliendo.

Chris Meck
09-04-2023, 12:04 PM
Sounds like Ross will be active so we could probably see all 7 WR's active

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> ST coordinator Dave Toub says that Justyn Ross will play special teams.</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1698740920680952146?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And, sounds like they have a plan to have him be active going forward. Toub doesn't like to move guys on and off teams.

staylor26
09-04-2023, 12:34 PM
I'm officially pumped for this game.

The Toney news made me feel so much better about the Chris Jones situation.

If we're going to be without CJ for several weeks, the offense is going to have to score a lot of points, and with the new OT's, Toney, and the rest of the young weapons, they can absolutely do that.

Of course, Toney has to actually stay healthy now, but as it stands today, I feel much better going into the season without CJ reporting than I did a week ago.

Marcellus
09-04-2023, 12:47 PM
I'm officially pumped for this game.

The Toney news made me feel so much better about the Chris Jones situation.

If we're going to be without CJ for several weeks, the offense is going to have to score a lot of points, and with the new OT's, Toney, and the rest of the young weapons, they can absolutely do that.

Of course, Toney has to actually stay healthy now, but as it stands today, I feel much better going into the season without CJ reporting than I did a week ago.

Sneed being ready to go helps as well.