Hardman placed on IR; Toney is out vs Raiders

[RunKC]

Montrell Washington and Perine activated from the PS

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Injury Report Update: WR Kadarius Toney is now ruled out for Sunday’s game with an ankle/hip injury. <a href="https://t.co/jJrZc8R0zs">https://t.co/jJrZc8R0zs</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1728486451136942272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Chiefshrink]

Good !! Hope Perine supplants CEH with a very big game.

[cabletech94]

FUCK!!!!!

JUST PLAYIN’.

WBF.

(Come home SR)

[KC_Connection]

Maybe the receivers on the practice squad can catch?

[TEX]

Maybe the receivers on the practice squad can catch?

Exactly. BFD if any of 6 on the active roster are out.
As far as CEH goes, hope Perine permanently takes his place.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Useless turds anyway.

[Donger]

So the situation might improve?

[Eleazar]

Not sure what we’ll do on the 8-10 snaps those guys would have played

[-King-]

Toneys career has to be over after this season right?

[TwistedChief]

Toneys career has to be over after this season right?

No.

He had been active the previous 10 weeks.

[PHOG]

Not sure what we’ll do on the 8-10 snaps those guys would have played

Split them up between the other 8 WRs.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Toneys career has to be over after this season right?

He certainly has no role here next year other than 5th or 6th WR, although I’d prefer him gone altogether. Would like to see 5-6 new faces in the WR room. Rice is the only one on the roster worth half a shit.

[Sassy Squatch]

Toney will be here until his rookie contract is done.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

What a disappointment Toney has been this season...jfc he's done literally NOTHING

[-King-]

No.

He had been active the previous 10 weeks.

Is this a serious comment? Being active but getting basically no snaps even when the players above you are dog shit is not really the best proof of worth a player can come with.

Is there going to be a team that wants to sign him but thinks "Yeah he's been useless and injured despite having the best coach and quarterback in the league and it being his 2nd team, but I bet if we sign him he'll really turn it around for us!"

[Gary Cooper]

Broke dick gadget players who cannot run routes. Reid/Veach get too enamored with speed/agility and overlook other traits in WRs.

[BWillie]

Montrell Washington and Perine activated from the PS

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Injury Report Update: WR Kadarius Toney is now ruled out for Sunday’s game with an ankle/hip injury. <a href="https://t.co/jJrZc8R0zs">https://t.co/jJrZc8R0zs</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1728486451136942272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yes! Its Dick James time to shine y'all

[Gary Cooper]

Is Ross suspended for the season?

[carcosa]

FUCK!!!!!

JUST PLAYIN’.

WBF.

(Come home SR)

The Chiefs will also be just playin' ... just playin' football, that is!!!!!

[RunKC]

Bring Sammy Watkins back on the PS. At least he can catch

[TwistedChief]

Is this a serious comment? Being active but getting basically no snaps even when the players above you are dog shit is not really the best proof of worth a player can come with.

Is there going to be a team that wants to sign him but thinks "Yeah he's been useless and injured despite having the best coach and quarterback in the league and it being his 2nd team, but I bet if we sign him he'll really turn it around for us!"

I'll give you 10:1 odds that he's on an NFL team next season (and much more likely than not the Chiefs).

He's been durable this year. He's shown clear flashes of being a real playmaker. The Chiefs haven't exactly had any sort of consistency in terms of who gets snaps, opportunities, and targets in a predictable way this season, and Toney is right in the middle of that.

But look, 10:1 odds pretty good for you since it seems like you actually think that's the most likely outcome for the guy. I just strongly disagree with you and these are the odds I'm willing to offer.

[notorious]

Toney 22 catches for 139 yards 1 TD

MVS 14 catches for 249 yards 1 TD

Skyy 17 catches 205 yards 1 TD

This is so abysmal I don't know where to begin. Flush all 3 of these turds.

[TEX]

Is this a serious comment? Being active but getting basically no snaps even when the players above you are dog shit is not really the best proof of worth a player can come with.

Is there going to be a team that wants to sign him but thinks "Yeah he's been useless and injured despite having the best coach and quarterback in the league and it being his 2nd team, but I bet if we sign him he'll really turn it around for us!"
Exactly. 22 receptions for 139 yards in 10 weeks! LMAO

BUT, he was responsible for that really cool pick 6 week 1.

[carcosa]

Bring Sammy Watkins back on the PS. At least he can catch

Bring him back for the playoffs and squeeze a few games out of his fragile body

[TwistedChief]

Exactly. 22 receptions in 10 weeks! ROFL

So do you think he won't be on an NFL team next year as well?

[notorious]

Exactly. 22 receptions for 139 yards in 10 weeks! LMAO

Guy is averaging less than our RB's per reception.


I mean, that's historically bad.

[digger]

Less chance they take Rice out after a good play... Rice needs more Reps...

[TEX]

So do you think he won't be on an NFL team next year as well?

Oh, I think he will be because the NFL is stupid that way. But I dont think he should be and I especially don't think he should be on the Chiefs.

I was more agreeing with the statement that the receivers above him are dog shit and he hasn't been able to do anything in spite of that. And this was his second team where he's basically been invisible, except for maybe one or two games.

[louie aguiar]

Is it true we lost out on a fifth round comp pick when we traded for hardman?

[digger]

Is it true we lost out on a fifth round comp pick when we traded for hardman? 6 for 7 in 2025...

[-King-]

Guy is averaging less than our RB's per reception.


I mean, that's historically bad.

If you exclude Dexter McClusters last season, Toneys best year in the league is worse than McClusters worst.

[TEX]

Less chance they take Rice out after a good play... Rice needs more Reps...

Yes! I don't care if it's by default that he gets more playing time.

[Easy 6]

Logged in to post this news about Toney, I'm just simply over this guy... he'll never amount to shit

[notorious]

If you exclude Dexter McClusters last season, Toneys best year in the league is worse than McClusters worst.

For a guy with world-class speed that's......disconcerting.

[notorious]

Logged in to post this news about Toney, I'm just simply over this guy... he'll never amount to shit

If he rose to shit it would be an improvement.

I consider MVS shit, and his numbers are better than Toney's.

[louie aguiar]

6 for 7 in 2025...

Some on the twittersphere claim that the trade means that we lose out on the comp pick for JJSS- not sure how reliable the info is though.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It&#39;s a matter of the net loss of the number of the Chiefs&#39; compensatory free agents going down from 2 to 1.<br><br>Hardman either cancels himself out or is removed entirely, leaving the formula no choice but to cancel out Juju w/a lower contract, as follows:<a href="https://t.co/eD5WlUSXqL">https://t.co/eD5WlUSXqL</a> <a href="https://t.co/09iF8NOze2">pic.twitter.com/09iF8NOze2</a></p>&mdash; Nick Korte (@nickkorte) <a href="https://twitter.com/nickkorte/status/1714733117997805955?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[-King-]

I'll give you 10:1 odds that he's on an NFL team next season (and much more likely than not the Chiefs).

He's been durable this year. He's shown clear flashes of being a real playmaker. The Chiefs haven't exactly had any sort of consistency in terms of who gets snaps, opportunities, and targets in a predictable way this season, and Toney is right in the middle of that.

But look, 10:1 odds pretty good for you since it seems like you actually think that's the most likely outcome for the guy. I just strongly disagree with you and these are the odds I'm willing to offer.

Dude sometimes people just want to have conversations LMAO. Not about being right or wrong or betting about it. I don't care if some team is stupid enough to still hope they can change him. As long as it's not the chiefs, I don't care because he doesn't belong on an NFL roster.

[DRM08]

What a disappointment Toney has been this season...jfc he's done literally NOTHING

Well…he was Detroit’s MVP in their win against the Chiefs.

[BWillie]

This is addition by subtraction unless....it means more snaps for Skyy. But there is no way they will be that stupid

[TLO]

I guess Cornell Powell really is worthless.

[TEX]

Dude sometimes people just want to have conversations LMAO. Not about being right or wrong or betting about it. I don't care if some team is stupid enough to still hope they can change him. As long as it's not the chiefs, I don't care because he doesn't belong on an NFL roster.

That's it! I've been looking for the words to describe what it's like to engage with Twisted if he doesn't agree with you, and THIS sums it up perfectly. My first engagement with him resulted in him losing a ban- bet, which he proposed, and him leaving for months. LMAO. Deal was, when he lost, I even said that he didn't have to go, but he still did....Dude brings a lot to the board, but you're so right in that sometimes you just want to talk and nobody has to win...
And I completely agree with your Toney take.

[FloridaMan88]

Dude sometimes people just want to have conversations LMAO. Not about being right or wrong or betting about it. I don't care if some team is stupid enough to still hope they can change him. As long as it's not the chiefs, I don't care because he doesn't belong on an NFL roster.

Twisted must be like 12 years old because his “Let’s make a bet” schtick is ridiculously lame.

[TwistedChief]

Dude sometimes people just want to have conversations LMAO. Not about being right or wrong or betting about it. I don't care if some team is stupid enough to still hope they can change him. As long as it's not the chiefs, I don't care because he doesn't belong on an NFL roster.

No, but you say stuff as if it’s likely and that he shouldn’t be on a team. Like, why? He clearly hasn’t been great or even good but the guy has absolutely flashed enough such that some team is going to take a chance on the guy.

Compare him to Skyy Moore who hasn’t even flashed at any point in his career. If you told me that guy didn’t make it past his rookie deal, I wouldn’t be shocked.

But Toney? You think he’s done next year? He’s been active every game this season so it’s not like his body is falling apart before our very eyes and no one would dare take a risk on him.

[-King-]

No, but you say stuff as if it’s likely and that he shouldn’t be on a team. Like, why? He clearly hasn’t been great or even good but the guy has absolutely flashed enough such that some team is going to take a chance on the guy.

Compare him to Skyy Moore who hasn’t even flashed at any point in his career. If you told me that guy didn’t make it past his rookie deal, I wouldn’t be shocked.

But Toney? You think he’s done next year? He’s been active every game this season so it’s not like his body is falling apart before our very eyes and no one would dare take a risk on him.

Being active for 10 games straight means literally nothing when you're playing 10 or less snaps per game.

And then still get injured.

[TwistedChief]

Twisted must be like 12 years old because his “Let’s make a bet” schtick is ridiculously lame.

It’s just that so many of you adults love to talk with such confidence and conviction on low probability outcomes, yet none of you are willing to back this stuff up with anything tangible.

It’s like picking the right numbers for the lottery and being so proud of yourself despite the fact that you’re not even willing to buy a ticket.

You do you.

[TwistedChief]

Being active for 10 games straight means literally nothing when you're playing 10 or less snaps per game.

And then still get injured.

No, it means that the guy hasn’t been the complete brokedick that might mean you’re right and that he’ll be out of the league next year. Isn’t that the only thing I’ve argued with you?

[-King-]

It’s just that so many of you adults love to talk with such confidence and conviction on low probability outcomes, yet none of you are willing to back this stuff up with anything tangible.

It’s like picking the right numbers for the lottery and being so proud of yourself despite the fact that you’re not even willing to buy a ticket.

You do you.

So in this analogy....toney playing for a team next year is like winning the lottery? And that's what I'm buying a ticket for? What makes football discussions the "lottery" to you?

[Marcellus]

Its Rick James time bitch.

[Pepe Silvia]

What a disappointment Toney has been this season...jfc he's done literally NOTHING

He sucks.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I'll give you 10:1 odds that he's on an NFL team next season (and much more likely than not the Chiefs).

He's been durable this year. He's shown clear flashes of being a real playmaker. The Chiefs haven't exactly had any sort of consistency in terms of who gets snaps, opportunities, and targets in a predictable way this season, and Toney is right in the middle of that.

But look, 10:1 odds pretty good for you since it seems like you actually think that's the most likely outcome for the guy. I just strongly disagree with you and these are the odds I'm willing to offer.

Flashes my ass. He's been next to worthless

[TwistedChief]

So in this analogy....toney playing for a team next year is like winning the lottery? And that's what I'm buying a ticket for? What makes football discussions the "lottery" to you?

I’ll slow this down.

We’re talking about a low probability outcome - say, 5% - that you are putting out there as if the odds are 75%. And then when I disagree with you and imply that his health hasn’t exactly been a complete disaster this year which would be the main reason his career ends, you respond mockingly as if I’m the one who doesn’t understand how Toney might be viewed.

So, we have a real difference of opinion. You implied something was likely and I think it’s very, very unlikely, and I’m willing to give you very favorable odds commensurate with my view that you would clearly be incentivized to take if you really thought you were right.

If Toney isn’t in the league next year and we bet $1, you get $10 and only risked $1 in doing so. Seems like a good bet if you feel like your odds are right and I’m the clueless one here.

[-King-]

I’ll slow this down.

We’re talking about a low probability outcome - say, 5% - that you are putting out there as if the odds are 75%. And then when I disagree with you and imply that his health hasn’t exactly been a complete disaster this year which would be the main reason his career ends, you respond mockingly as if I’m the one who doesn’t understand how Toney might be viewed.

So, we have a real difference of opinion. You implied something was likely and I think it’s very, very unlikely, and I’m willing to give you very favorable odds commensurate with my view that you would clearly be incentivized to take if you really thought you were right.

If Toney isn’t in the league next year and we bet $1, you get $10 and only risked $1 in doing so. Seems like a good bet if you feel like your odds are right and I’m the clueless one here.

What a weird way to live man. If your wife says she'll likely be home in an hour, do you press her about making a bet on if she'll actually be home in an hour or not?


You're way too fixated on being right or wrong. It's just a forum man, no one cares.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Broke dick gadget players who cannot run routes. Reid/Veach get too enamored with speed/agility and overlook other traits in WRs.

Seems like they may have learned their lesson when they took Rice, but I’ll believe it when I see it consistently. Hopefully the days of passing on elite talent for these useless gadget shitheads is over, but I wouldn’t bet on it.

[FloridaMan88]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kadarius Toney felt discomfort in his hip during practice Friday, a source tells Chiefs Digest. He was ruled out on Saturday and will undergo further tests.<br><br>Chiefs also elevated two practice squad players with Toney, Hardman &amp; McKinnon out vs. Raiders.<br> <a href="https://t.co/O0ly3nvoHq">https://t.co/O0ly3nvoHq</a></p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1728497851552977184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[BWillie]

Twisted must be like 12 years old because his “Let’s make a bet” schtick is ridiculously lame.

Thats one of the things I like about him. He did lose the bet vs me, too. Bless his heart. I respect paying and making right on your bets one way or another.

[KCJake]

Holy sh!t what’s happening guys. This is a really bad sign. This WR group. They’ll cost us this season. I don’t see how they don’t ..

[dirk digler]

Veach\Reid really fucked up in regards to the WR room. What a unmitigated disaster

[Easy 6]

Veach\Reid really fucked up in regards to the WR room. What a unmitigated disaster

We're now down to a skeleton crew of scrubs, and Rice... yeah, its bad

[ChiefsCountry]

CP on Monday night/Tuesday morning get rid of all the WRs

CP on Saturday when two WRs won't play, sky if falling we can't win now.

[Buehler445]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kadarius Toney felt discomfort in his hip during practice Friday, a source tells Chiefs Digest. He was ruled out on Saturday and will undergo further tests.<br><br>Chiefs also elevated two practice squad players with Toney, Hardman &amp; McKinnon out vs. Raiders.<br> <a href="https://t.co/O0ly3nvoHq">https://t.co/O0ly3nvoHq</a></p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1728497851552977184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Perine and Powell?

I'd bet it's Washington, but I'd like to see Powell get a look to see if he's worth screwing around with or not. It's probably time to shit or get off the pot with that dude.

[crispystl]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kadarius Toney felt discomfort in his hip during practice Friday, a source tells Chiefs Digest. He was ruled out on Saturday and will undergo further tests.<br><br>Chiefs also elevated two practice squad players with Toney, Hardman & McKinnon out vs. Raiders.<br> <a href="https://t.co/O0ly3nvoHq">https://t.co/O0ly3nvoHq</a></p>— Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1728497851552977184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Yikes. I hope it’s a bruise and not labrum damage.


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[FlaChief58]

Well, this is less than ideal. This game is going to be a dog fight
Hopefully the D can score

[Chiefshrink]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kadarius Toney felt discomfort in his hip during practice Friday, a source tells Chiefs Digest. He was ruled out on Saturday and will undergo further tests.<br><br>Chiefs also elevated two practice squad players with Toney, Hardman &amp; McKinnon out vs. Raiders.<br> <a href="https://t.co/O0ly3nvoHq">https://t.co/O0ly3nvoHq</a></p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1728497851552977184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Toney wanted a W/E off.;)

[Chiefshrink]

Yikes. I hope it’s a bruise and not labialabrum damage.


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FYP;)

[Pinchshot]

Shit it takes 3 of the clones to get 1 on the field I guess

[Discuss Thrower]

So they'll need a ST replacement for McKinnon..

[TwistedChief]

Well, this is less than ideal. This game is going to be a dog fight
Hopefully the D can score

Looks like Crosby probably not playing. I’d happily trade the absence of McKinnon, Toney, and Hardman for that.

[Easy 6]

Perine and Powell?

I'd bet it's Washington, but I'd like to see Powell get a look to see if he's worth screwing around with or not. It's probably time to shit or get off the pot with that dude.

I have no idea why Powell is even still here, they're clearly not gonna give him a shot

[Chiefshrink]

I have no idea why Powell is even still here, they're clearly not gonna give him a shot

He must really struggle with the playbook.

[Easy 6]

He must really struggle with the playbook.

Its either that, or he just looks too damn slow in practice... either way its time to cut bait if he can't hack it

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

What a weird way to live man. If your wife says she'll likely be home in an hour, do you press her about making a bet on if she'll actually be home in an hour or not?


You're way too fixated on being right or wrong. It's just a forum man, no one cares.

No, A weird way to live is the guys on here just absolutely trashing players on their favorite team. Can you be disappointed and criticize their play?, sure... but the outright immature hate from some of you is flat out strange...

[Chiefshrink]

Its either that, or he just looks too damn slow in practice...

or he is dropping passes as well:LOL:

[Hammock Parties]

thank gawd it's the raiders lmao

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Perine and Powell?

I'd bet it's Washington, but I'd like to see Powell get a look to see if he's worth screwing around with or not. It's probably time to shit or get off the pot with that dude.


Washington will return punts and they will activate Ritchie...

[TEX]

Thats one of the things I like about him. He did lose the bet vs me, too. Bless his heart. I respect paying and making right on your bets one way or another.

Yep. Even when he was told it was not necessary.

[TEX]

Holy shit what’s happening guys. This is a really bad sign. This WR group. They’ll cost us this season. I don’t see how they don’t ..

No worse than usual. I mean when they're healthy, they drop balls, and muff punts, that cost them games. :shrug:

This may just cause some of the guys to get more snaps and someone may just step up and surprise. Who knows? Nothing can be done about it now except you got to play it how the circumstances dictate.

[Demonpenz]

They are so bad. Can't get open then if they are slightly open they drop the ball. Sad to see.

[Red Dawg]

What a shit year we have going on at WR. Total shit.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

What a shit year we have going on at WR. Total shit.

When you yearn for the days of Donnie Avery and past his prime D-Bowe, you know things are shitty.

[Demonpenz]

I had people showing me videos of them working out saying that they were loaded at WR. Training camp hype doesn't mean shit and every year people get obsessed with offseason work outs. Frustrating as a day to day fan.

[Red Dawg]

[QUOTE=Wisconsin_Chief;17241496]When you yearn for the days of Donnie Avery and past his prime D-Bowe, you know things bad.

We would be undefeated if we had Bowe.

[493rd]

If the Chiefs win the SB this year with this WR group, it’ll highlight how bad the rest of the league is. It seems likely that it’ll get us in the end, especially if we play a team that can score.

[Chris Meck]

If the Chiefs win the SB this year with this WR group, it’ll highlight how bad the rest of the league is. It seems likely that it’ll get us in the end, especially if we play a team that can score.

like Miami?

[493rd]

like Miami?

Miami scares me less than Buffalo. Would you agree? And we saw against Philly how it could go.

[Chris Meck]

Miami scares me less than Buffalo. Would you agree? And we saw against Philly how it could go.

We would have dropped 40 on Philly and embarrassed them on national television if we had only CAUGHT THE ****ING BALL.

There's not a team in the NFL that scares me, at all, not a single bit.

You know what scares me?

NOT CATCHING THE ****ING BALL.

that's it.

Fucking Buffalo? LOL.

No.

Unless we just don't CATCH THE FUCKING BALL.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

The problem is when it happens every week, it's a trend not a fluke. The team is what it is right now and I refuse to act like losing 3 games due to drops is a good thing or easily corrected at this point

[Chris Meck]

The problem is when it happens every week, it's a trend not a fluke. The team is what it is right now and I refuse to act like losing 3 games due to drops is a good thing or easily corrected at this point


I don't think anybody is.

Do I think they're going to continue to be THAT bad?

It doesn't seem statistically likely. I mean, goddamn.

But who fuckin' knows?

If James goes in and starts dropping balls left and right, we'll know it's some fucking voodoo curse.

[-King-]

No, A weird way to live is the guys on here just absolutely trashing players on their favorite team. Can you be disappointed and criticize their play?, sure... but the outright immature hate from some of you is flat out strange...
For example?

[FloridaMan88]

This is going to force Andy/Nagy to narrow the WR rotation and maybe/finally get Rice volume targets.

[Chris Meck]

This is going to force Andy/Nagy to narrow the WR rotation and maybe/finally get Rice volume targets.

You would think.

Silver linings, I guess.

[TEX]

This is going to force Andy/Nagy to narrow the WR rotation and maybe/finally get Rice volume targets.

This is what I was saying eralier. BUT, MVS, Moore, and Watson are all active, so we can only hope...

[-King-]

This is going to force Andy/Nagy to narrow the WR rotation and maybe/finally get Rice volume targets.

Maxx Crosby out. If there's a time for a "get right" game for the offense it's now. Stop the rotations and get guys comfortable with Mahomes and get Rice comfortable playing 80% snaps. Cause that's what we'll need come playoff time.

[493rd]

We would have dropped 40 on Philly and embarrassed them on national television if we had only CAUGHT THE ****ING BALL.

There's not a team in the NFL that scares me, at all, not a single bit.

You know what scares me?

NOT CATCHING THE ****ING BALL.

that's it.

****ing Buffalo? LOL.

No.

Unless we just don't CATCH THE ****ING BALL.

You’re not wrong. But it’s a constant issue and not likely to go away. So, any team with a gamer QB and WRs is worrisome because the defense can only do so much. Josh Allen > Tua imo.

[neech]

Maxx Crosby out. If there's a time for a "get right" game for the offense it's now. Stop the rotations and get guys comfortable with Mahomes and get Rice comfortable playing 80% snaps. Cause that's what we'll need come playoff time.

He's like their best player so that's huge.

[Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan]

Maxx Crosby out. If there's a time for a "get right" game for the offense it's now. Stop the rotations and get guys comfortable with Mahomes and get Rice comfortable playing 80% snaps. Cause that's what we'll need come playoff time.

I'm only finding Crosby listed as Doubtful. Where did you get the "out" designator?

[-King-]

I'm only finding Crosby listed as Doubtful. Where did you get the "out" designator?

You're right. But doubtful almost always equals out.

[O.city]

Flush Toney after this season. Cheap or not the dude can’t play without breaking

[Chiefshrink]

There will NOT be one dropped ball tomorrow by any of our WR corp. :thumb:

[O.city]

Hardman to ir with an injury he sustained then came back in and played after

Seems like not ideal

[TheGreatCassholio]

There will NOT be one dropped ball tomorrow by any of our WR corp. :thumb:

So we're just going to hand off to Pacheco 60 times then. That works for me.

[Bowser]

Man, they SEVERELY overestimated the talent in the WR room, and/or Mahomes' ability to make horseradish out of horseshit when it comes to wide receivers.

[philfree]

I wonder if Toney is ever really injured or is he a guy with low pain tolerance?

[scho63]

Toney 22 catches for 139 yards 1 TD

MVS 14 catches for 249 yards 1 TD

Skyy 17 catches 205 yards 1 TD

This is so abysmal I don't know where to begin. Flush all 3 of these turds.

Those are game stats for Tyreek.

[Chief Pagan]

Holy shit what’s happening guys. This is a really bad sign. This WR group. They’ll cost us this season. I don’t see how they don’t ..

Yeah, it's almost like winning it all takes skill, a lot of work, and some luck and for some reason that's really hard to count on.

[Red Dawg]

So we're just going to hand off to Pacheco 60 times then. That works for me.

Yes. That is the only way this true.

[Bump]

Not worried if Toney and Hardman can't play.

Although I was liking Toney on punt returns.

But hopefully Richie James can replace the 3 catches for maybe 18 yards that we would have gotten out of Toney and Hardman.

[Couch-Potato]

I don't care if they come back or not this season, both are worthless other than a flash in the pan play once in a blue moon.

[Bowser]

Can't lie - I hope they have a couple of screens ready to go for Perine.

[LongSufferingToady]

Well, I guess we don't need to watch what happens Sunday, cuz it's going to be an ugly mess.

[Hammock Parties]

Well, I guess we don't need to watch what happens Sunday, cuz it's going to be an ugly mess.

Toney and Hardman were targeted 4 times last week, dude.

Fucking chill.

[BWillie]

Well, I guess we don't need to watch what happens Sunday, cuz it's going to be an ugly mess.

Oh no whatever will we do without Kadarious Toney.

[LongSufferingToady]

Oh no whatever will we do without Kadarious Toney.

Same thing we would do with Toney. Nothing.

[lcarus]

We would have dropped 40 on Philly and embarrassed them on national television if we had only CAUGHT THE ****ING BALL.

There's not a team in the NFL that scares me, at all, not a single bit.

You know what scares me?

NOT CATCHING THE ****ING BALL.

that's it.

Fucking Buffalo? LOL.

No.

Unless we just don't CATCH THE FUCKING BALL.

Catching the ball and not fumbling it. Chiefs are bottom third of the league in turnover margin and penalties. Drops, penalties, turnovers. Gotta stop doing it.

[irafreak]

So let's see..this moves mvs, Watson, and Rice to 1,2,3 doesn't it? Oh wait forgot about skyy. Well we beat the bengals in the afc championship with less...

[bringbackmarty]

Skye Moore breakout game I guess?

[bringbackmarty]

Probably something along the lines of 5 receptions, 85 yds and a TD.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Not seeing the issue.

[T-post Tom]

Plz, no more over-the-shoulder passes to MVS. Poor ball skills & catches with his body.

Give Rice his biggest # of targets for the year.

Don’t throw intermediate or long passes to Watson on 3rd or 4th downs. Give him a shot on some bubble screens, jet sweeps & similar plays where he can rely on his speed & not his hands. Preferably on first and second downs.

More targets for Noah Gray.

[Rasputin]

Need more targets to Rice anyways.

[neech]

Good game for Skye to redeem himself Mahomes needs to throw the ball his way though for it to happen.


Time for Skye to nut up or shut up.

[bigjosh]

Was hoping they would healthy scratch mvs. Not likely with mecole and toney out


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[TEX]

Good game for Skye to redeem himself Mahomes needs to throw the ball his way though for it to happen.


Time for Skye to nut up or shut up.

Forget Skyy Moore. The guy Mahomes needs to throw more to is Rice.

[Sassy Squatch]

Good game for Skye to redeem himself Mahomes needs to throw the ball his way though for it to happen.


Time for Skye to nut up or shut up.
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[MIAdragon]

Toney 22 catches for 139 yards 1 TD

MVS 14 catches for 249 yards 1 TD

Skyy 17 catches 205 yards 1 TD

This is so abysmal I don't know where to begin. Flush all 3 of these turds.

Would love to know what the numbers would be if they caught the drops. I’m still guessing shitty. There’s more blame to go around imo.

[neech]

Forget Skyy Moore. The guy Mahomes needs to throw more to is Rice.

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[neech]

Forget Skyy Moore. The guy Mahomes needs to throw more to is Rice.

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[FlaChief58]

Forget Skyy Moore. The guy Mahomes needs to throw more to is Rice.

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[Coochie liquor]

Less chance they take Rice out after a good play... Rice needs more Reps...

I saw a video of Rices snaps yesterday, and there’s a reason he’s not getting the ball. A lot of his routes seem to run right into defenders, doesn’t seem to run them well. He’s our best receiver, but he’s got a LOT of learning and polishing to do.

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[TEX]

What a weird way to live man. If your wife says she'll likely be home in an hour, do you press her about making a bet on if she'll actually be home in an hour or not?


You're way too fixated on being right or wrong. It's just a forum man, no one cares.

He cant help himself. He has issues...

[scho63]

They were not missed

[TEX]

They were not missed

Nope. And Rice shined!

[cdcox]

I saw a video of Rices snaps yesterday, and there’s a reason he’s not getting the ball. A lot of his routes seem to run right into defenders, doesn’t seem to run them well. He’s our best receiver, but he’s got a LOT of learning and polishing to do.

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Glad to see Rice having a good game today. But that video was pretty condemning. I'm not sure if he's earned the privilege of running to the open spot, but I saw a lot of him running away from open space into coverage. He seldom put pressure on the man covering him.

[TwistedChief]

Glad to see Rice having a good game today. But that video was pretty condemning. I'm not sure if he's earned the privilege of running to the open spot, but I saw a lot of him running away from open space into coverage. He seldom put pressure on the man covering him.

It’s almost like he might just be a young player who has upside and can benefit from more snaps and experience.

[Chris Meck]

It’s almost like he might just be a young player who has upside and can benefit from more snaps and experience.

I've been saying it since March-


You've got to play them to develop them.

[MIAdragon]

I've been saying it since March-


You've got to play them to develop them.

This is a totally new concept, thank god you’ve been beating that drum for so long.

[Chris Meck]

This is a totally new concept, thank god you’ve been beating that drum for so long.

Well, it didn't really seem to be the general consensus, and patience with the growing pains certainly wasn't, so yeah, maybe so.

Sometimes a little logic is revolutionary on CP.

[O.city]

They've played thru the bumps, the issue is just Toney can't be on the field for a game without breaking.

Ross is good though. Looks like a high end #2 type guy with some real upside to be more than that. Moore isn't gonna be good, but if he can be a good 3 or 4 for the next few years maybe you can get some value there

[notorious]

Having the possibility of Toney playing is hurting the team. They played better without him being an option.

[O.city]

Having the possibility of Toney playing is hurting the team. They played better without him being an option.

It sure seems like that was the case.

But damn, Toney always makes plays. I would like to see him wiht Rice.

[-King-]

It sure seems like that was the case.

But damn, Toney always makes plays. I would like to see him wiht Rice.

I really wanted to see them experiment with him in the background more like they seemed to do in the first quarter in Philly. If they're not going to use him in the passing game, I think he has the vision and moves to be a Deebo Samuels type threat out of the backfield. Just doesn't have the durability for that though.