*****The Hunter Nourzad Thread*****

[Dante84]

More to come!

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New Chiefs’ offensive lineman Hunter Nourzad started at right tackle (20 games), center (13 games), left guard (7 games) and right guard (1 games) over the course of his time at Cornell and Penn State.<br><br>Adds great versatility up front, particularly inside.</p>&mdash; Matt McMullen (@KCChiefs_Matt) <a href="https://twitter.com/KCChiefs_Matt/status/1784299824570945870?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This dude had 582 snaps at RT, 535 at LG, 170 at LT and 801 snaps at center according to PFF. Yeah, the NFL loves this guy. Hunter Nourzad imo is a rock solid starter, but at the very worst he&#39;s a damn good swingman reserve.<a href="https://t.co/Xizp03anWu">pic.twitter.com/Xizp03anWu</a></p>&mdash; Nick Martin (@themicknartin) <a href="https://twitter.com/themicknartin/status/1760044969442619700?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hunter Bourzad headed to the kingdom ����<a href="https://t.co/SeJJFOcxDs">pic.twitter.com/SeJJFOcxDs</a></p>&mdash; The 33rd Team (@The33rdTeamFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/The33rdTeamFB/status/1784299551026745563?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Penn State IOL Hunter Nourzad with the snatch-trap on Michael Hall <a href="https://t.co/plqVX815p3">pic.twitter.com/plqVX815p3</a></p>&mdash; Russell Brown (@RussNFLDraft) <a href="https://twitter.com/RussNFLDraft/status/1778248501006086650?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Penn State IOL Hunter Nourzad playing with a square and fluid base. Impressive lateral movement skills. <a href="https://t.co/K35al90vdt">pic.twitter.com/K35al90vdt</a></p>&mdash; Russell Brown (@RussNFLDraft) <a href="https://twitter.com/RussNFLDraft/status/1778247416778559668?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> stole <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PennState?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PennState</a>&#39;s Hunter Nourzad, a OC/OG, who can step in as a starter if need be, here in the 5th<br><br>Nourzad impressed at OG/OC over last 2 years (and OT at Cornell before that), and really impressed at OC all week at <a href="https://twitter.com/ShrineBowl?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ShrineBowl</a><br><br>GREAT Day 3 value.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ShrineBowlWhosNext?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ShrineBowlWhosNext</a> <a href="https://t.co/kGDMuzQQjM">https://t.co/kGDMuzQQjM</a> <a href="https://t.co/l43ldVfhQm">pic.twitter.com/l43ldVfhQm</a></p>&mdash; Eric Galko (@EricGalko) <a href="https://twitter.com/EricGalko/status/1784300744251674875?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[The Franchise]

There's the WHO?! pick.

[staylor26]

Craig Stout loves this guy.

[RealSNR]

Fine

[FloridaMan88]

Creed’s eventual replacement?

[staylor26]

Stout says he's versatile and can play all over the interior. One of his favorite picks.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Move Creed to G?

[Mecca]

It's your Allegreti replacement.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Creed’s eventual replacement?

no, Allegretti this year, maybe Trey next

[smithandrew051]

We did need IOL depth. That’s 3 of my 5 needs.

Need that big DT and RB now.

[Toad]

Maybe Trey/Thuney replacement

[BWillie]

Yes! I hope the goal is to let Creed walk

[Warrick]

Swiss army knife... Allegretti replacement.

[DRM08]

Creed’s eventual replacement?

Or Trey Smith. Nourzad has played Tackle, Guard, and Center in college.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Perfect swing lineman at the very least. Probably long term LG or RG.

[staylor26]

Lance Zerilein had this guy as a 4th rounder and he's pretty good with OL.

[Urc Burry]

My first ‘oh no’.

Only because I saw center, and I know we have a choice to make between Creed and Trey.

I know nothing about him though. Maybe he can play guard :shrug:

[BWillie]

Do not resign interior lineman!

[BWillie]

My first ‘oh no’.

Only because I saw center, and I know we have a choice to make between Creed and Trey.

I know nothing about him though. Maybe he can play guard :shrug:

Trey barely matters. Creed does not matter

[louie aguiar]

Nice pick- good value

[ChiefsCountry]

ESPN Radio's Jordan Reid loves this pick. Nourzad played left tackle in the Ivy League and both guard and center at Penn State. Only allowed two sacks in his college career.

[TwistedChief]

He played tackle at Cornell. Definitely the next Allegretti. Great versatility.

[DJ's left nut]

Nice. Wanted IOL here and this is one of two that seemed like a really good fit.

[DRM08]

My first ‘oh no’.

Only because I saw center, and I know we have a choice to make between Creed and Trey.

I know nothing about him though. Maybe he can play guard :shrug:

He’s a versatile guy. Nourzad has played Center, Guard, & Tackle in college.

[staylor26]

Draft is pretty much done. Veach just nailed it this year.

[PHOG]

Another position (IOL) that checks the box. :thumb:

[RealSNR]

Do not resign interior lineman!

You do realize that big contract we gave Thuney is a huge reason why we've been able to field a top 10 OL through our SBs in spite of instability at both tackle positions, right?

[Tribal Warfare]

Trey barely matters. Creed does not matter

Forgot about the Bucs Super Bowl

[DJ's left nut]

He played tackle at Cornell. Definitely the next Allegretti. Great versatility.

Yup. Just a perfect use of a 5th round pick. Nice little backfill for some depth we lost. May never be a starter but ol' Nick came up huge for us a couple times and that's worth its weight in gold.

Just another very good, very smart pick.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

He's played multiple positions in the interior but C was his best. The Chiefs love to pull guards/C in the run schemes and that appears to be his greatest strength. He's definitely not a heavy footed plodder. Dude can pull and create wide open lanes on the edge.

Solid, we needed a swing interior linemen.

[Hound333]

I love that we are actually discussing a 5th round pick and immediately are talking about who they replace. Man having a great GM just kicks arse. I remember sooooo many years where I stopped watching around the 3rd round because "none of those guys ever make the team".

[Dante84]

Thuney is a possible cap casualty next year, no?

[philfree]

Yes! I hope the goal is to let Creed walk

Why would you "want" to let Creed walk? If we have to let him go because of contract demands that's one thing but I certainly would like to keep him if we can.

[DRM08]

ESPN Radio's Jordan Reid loves this pick. Nourzad played left tackle in the Ivy League and both guard and center at Penn State. Only allowed two sacks in his college career.

You have to like his versatility.

Main takeaway from this Draft is that Brett Veach & Andy Reid are taking care of Mahomes. Two OL to help protect him and two weapons to help the passing game.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

ESPN Radio's Jordan Reid loves this pick. Nourzad played left tackle in the Ivy League and both guard and center at Penn State. Only allowed two sacks in his college career.

That's elite versatility. Chiefs love those kind of guys. Also was at the Senior Bowl and the Chiefs feast on guys who play in that game.

[Dante84]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The pre-snap communication from Penn State IOL Hunter Nourzad on every play may be the best in the class.</p>&mdash; Russell Brown (@RussNFLDraft) <a href="https://twitter.com/RussNFLDraft/status/1778249682264715656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Urc Burry]

Trey barely matters. Creed does not matter

Andy would disagree with you.

We are more likely to resign both than to let both walk… but I’d guess Trey walks

As much as Mahomes likes to get out of the pocket, I would rather have an elite interior over elite tackles.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Thuney is a possible cap casualty next year, no?

Yes. Great depth pick.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Trey barely matters. Creed does not matter

How is it possible to be this clueless? Stick to poker and Toucan Sam hoops.

[KC_Lee]

Thuney is a possible cap casualty next year, no?

Probably. With Creed, Smith and Bolton (I think) up for new deals next year Thuney is looking like a cut next year. We needed OL depth, this guy ticks lots of boxes.

[philfree]

Draft is pretty much done. Veach just nailed it this year.

Sure does look that way. I don't ever remember feeling like a draft was going this good as I watched it play out.

[DJ's left nut]

You have to like his versatility.

Main takeaway from this Draft is that Brett Veach & Andy Reid are taking care of Mahomes. Two OL to help protect him and two weapons to help the passing game.

I mean I guess he's versatile in the sense that he's played OT. But he's not even really a viable emergency option at OT in the pros.

He's pure G/C at the next level.

[KC_Lee]

Draft is pretty much done. Veach just nailed it this year.

This draft is a classic example of reload rather than rebuild.

[WhawhaWhat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The pre-snap communication from Penn State IOL Hunter Nourzad on every play may be the best in the class.</p>&mdash; Russell Brown (@RussNFLDraft) <a href="https://twitter.com/RussNFLDraft/status/1778249682264715656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He sounds like an Andy Reid wet dream.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Little crazy to say iOL don't matter...

Jason Kelce? Just to name one.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I'm sure this guy becomes Allegretti 2.0 at worst and if you got that for five years, that's phenomenal.

But maybe he's 2025 RG, too.

[Bump]

I was just thinking we might need some interior o-line depth with Allegreti gone

[dlphg9]

Trey barely matters. Creed does not matter

You're literally a fucking idiot. Interior pressure is the one thing that kills Mahomes. We need a strong interior more than we need elite Ts.

[Warpaint69]

Why would you "want" to let Creed walk? If we have to let him go because of contract demands that's one thing but I certainly would like to keep him if we can.
Center contracts are cheaper than the guard market currently.

[DRM08]

Why would you "want" to let Creed walk? If we have to let him go because of contract demands that's one thing but I certainly would like to keep him if we can.

Wonder if they might want to move Creed to Guard. The low snaps almost cost them a Super Bowl victory.

[Chiefshrink]

Move Creed to G?

Or if Creed wants too much money. But regardless, Andy always likes his offensive lineman to be versatile playing many different positions and there's nothing like competition.

[dlphg9]

Little crazy to say iOL don't matter...

Jason Kelce? Just to name one.

One thing that wrecks Mahomes and this offense is interior pressure. The worst games this offense has had is the games that the D gets pressure up the middle.

[Chiefshrink]

Wonder if they might want to move Creed to Guard. The low snaps almost cost them a Super Bowl victory.

Could be, good point. Those low snaps bothered me all year. It gives less time for Pat to read the field in a real time fashion.

[Dante84]

Now:
Suamataia / Thuney / Humphrey / Smith / Taylor
--Swing tackle: Morris
--Swing guard: Nourzad

Future:
Suamataia / Nourzad / Humphrey / Smith / Taylor
--Swing Tackle: Morris

[philfree]

Wonder if they might want to move Creed to Guard. The low snaps almost cost them a Super Bowl victory.

:hmmm: Possible I suppose but Creed may not want to give up touching the ball every play without a fight.

[kccrow]

me likes

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Why would you "want" to let Creed walk? If we have to let him go because of contract demands that's one thing but I certainly would like to keep him if we can.

BWillie doesn't like how expensive Creed is going to become, and doesn't believe we should pay a center big money at all because we don't heavily focus on the running game.

Take from that what you will.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

I don't like his height but only giving up two sacks while playing nearly every position on the OL speaks for itself.

[Easy 6]

Seems like a complete fit here, Andy & Andy do loves them some OL versatility

[BigRedChief]

Thuney is a possible cap casualty next year, no?
2024-25? He’s going nowhere. He’s guaranteed $27 million.

[Chief Pagan]

One thing that wrecks Mahomes and this offense is interior pressure. The worst games this offense has had is the games that the D gets pressure up the middle.

I don't know that it was pretty, but I seem to remember games where the tackles held up fine, the interior collapsed, and Mahomes made a living going backwards and throwing off his back foot.

Not that the iOL doesn't matter, and if BV can reload with later picks great.

But it's legitimate to ask how much it's worth to sign second contracts for.

[Urc Burry]

BWillie doesn't like how expensive Creed is going to become, and doesn't believe we should pay a center big money at all because we don't heavily focus on the running game.

Take from that what you will.

There could be an argument that Andy values guards higher, because he’s let walk two of the better centers in the league. And has signed guys off the scrap heap to start. But even if they were the case then I would guarantee they try to lock up Trey long term.

I would still imagine they value Creed over Trey

[Dante84]

Sorry to keep bringing up Thuney, but.... can't his contract be split across Creed and Trey? Or at least go a long way for retaining both?

[louie aguiar]

You're literally a ****ing idiot. Interior pressure is the one thing that kills Mahomes. We need a strong interior more than we need elite Ts.

Disagree. Mahomes worst games have been when his tackles struggled and his best games came when we had Fisher and Schwartz. I’m not saying that interior isn’t important- it clearly is but there’s a reason tackles are prioritized over guards and centers.

[Urc Burry]

Sorry to keep bringing up Thuney, but.... can't his contract be split across Creed and Trey? Or at least go a long way for retaining both?

Yeah. He’s got 1 more year before his dead cap is down to about $10 mil. Jawaan has 2 more before his dead cap is down to around $5 mil.

It’s definitely possible.

[BWillie]

Why would you "want" to let Creed walk? If we have to let him go because of contract demands that's one thing but I certainly would like to keep him if we can.

There is no reason a pass first Andy Reid offense should ever want to pay market value for a free agent elite to above avg center. It is a bad use of resources. If we played like the Eagles it not only would be a great use of resources but it would become a necessity.

[BWillie]

You're literally a fucking idiot. Interior pressure is the one thing that kills Mahomes. We need a strong interior more than we need elite Ts.

We do not. We need good tackles and a good pass blocking guard. When you are a heavy pass first offense this is how you operate. You do not pay centers under any circumstance. The org knows this. Theyve let the last two good centers walk and they are going to do it again.

[BWillie]

Disagree. Mahomes worst games have been when his tackles struggled and his best games came when we had Fisher and Schwartz. I’m not saying that interior isn’t important- it clearly is but there’s a reason tackles are prioritized over guards and centers.

Correct

[Coochie liquor]

Andy would disagree with you.

We are more likely to resign both than to let both walk… but I’d guess Trey walks

As much as Mahomes likes to get out of the pocket, I would rather have an elite interior over elite tackles.

Hopefully Creed figures out how to not dirt the ball to Mahomes every 10th attempt.

[Dante84]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hunter Nourzad&#39;s reaction to being drafted by the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>, pure excitement. <a href="https://t.co/739Ue3mfRm">pic.twitter.com/739Ue3mfRm</a></p>&mdash; Sports Radio 810 WHB (@SportsRadio810) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsRadio810/status/1784316982373855479?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Hoover]

I’d extend Creed now. And Trey is the guy who walks after next year, or you tag him for a season. Who knows. But you are stupid if you think we are going to walk away from Thuney, Creed, and Smith. I think you keep the center in place. See how Trey does.

[Titty Meat]

Who?

[BigRedChief]

Move Creed to G?

They are pissed about Creed rolling the ball back to Mahomes?

[BWillie]

I’d extend Creed now. And Trey is the guy who walks after next year, or you tag him for a season. Who knows. But you are stupid if you think we are going to walk away from Thuney, Creed, and Smith. I think you keep the center in place. See how Trey does.

Im signing the guard. I'd probably try to see if Creed can play guard this year but I doubt he would want to being that centers usually make more money.

[Smed1065]

Craig Stout loves this guy. Dante might as well...

[saphojunkie]

ESPN Radio's Jordan Reid loves this pick. Nourzad played left tackle in the Ivy League and both guard and center at Penn State. Only allowed two sacks in his college career.

Penn State isn’t in the Ivy League that would be Penn.

Did he transfer?

[Easy 6]

Sorry to keep bringing up Thuney, but.... can't his contract be split across Creed and Trey? Or at least go a long way for retaining both?

Why can't this man who's being lauded board wide for his perennial draft thread greatness, get a damn answer from any of you momo's?

LMAO

I'm no expert, Dante... but it seems pretty clear that losing Thuney's contract absolutely could help keep Creed and Trey around

[BryanBusby]

Good player. Just needs some roids and time in our NFLPA rated F- weight room.

[SD15]

Penn State isn’t in the Ivy League that would be Penn.

Did he transfer?

Yes. From Cornell

[Balto]

Why can't this man who's being lauded board wide for his perennial draft thread greatness, get a damn answer from any of you momo's?

LMAO

I'm no expert, Dante... but it seems pretty clear that losing Thuney's contract absolutely could help keep Creed and Trey around

While on paper it sounds nice. I don’t like the idea of replacing Thuney until our new “raw” LT gets a couple of years under his belt.

[Easy 6]

While on paper it sounds nice. I don’t like the idea of replacing Thuney until our new “raw” LT gets a couple of years under his belt.

We all love him, but Joe is a gonner next year and we all know it

The band-aid is getting ripped off regardless of sentiment, I'm loving how Veach keeps the pipeline full of potential replacements