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Rain Man
01-20-2004, 05:53 PM
Okay, everyone. You've been drafted, you've been through basic training, and now you're in England. Your crew assignments are posted below. If you volunteered for duty, please check to be sure your name is on here. If not, let me know ASAP.

If you're not on here and didn't volunteer, but would like to join a crew, let me know and I can add you to the replacement crew list.

Pilots, please note: tradition dictates that you name your aircraft. Please submit a name in the next 24 hours. (I've got a bookmark to a website of real B-17 names, but of course it's down right now.)

Crew assignments were made according to post count, with the most posts equating to the highest position on the plane. Your crew was therefore determined by simply working down the list of posters (with some additions at the end for those who volunteered for service), so it's more or less random. No complaining about who you have to sit next to.

Ready?

Aircraft #1

Pilot Rausch
Copilot Gaz
Bombardier noswad
Navigator milkman
Engineer FloridaChief
Radio Op. DanT
Tail Gunner FringeNC
Ball Turret Gunner Valiant
Right Waist Gunner jettio
Left Waist Gunner chi3fs

Aircraft #2

Pilot Phobia
Copilot siberian khatru
Bombardier ROYC75
Navigator оо
Engineer Saggysack
Radio Op. WisChief
Tail Gunner Mi_chief_fan
Ball Turret Gunner cheeeefs
Right Waist Gunner mizzou5
Left Waist Gunner ChiefJustice

Aircraft #3 (Look for the plane with the "Give peace a chance" bumper sticker.)

Pilot Logical
Copilot memyselfi
Bombardier Hoover
Navigator The Bad Guy
Engineer JimNasium
Radio Op. BigChiefDave
Tail Gunner kcnut
Ball Turret Gunner Ecto-I
Right Waist Gunner Warrior5
Left Waist Gunner cntrygal

Aircraft #4

Pilot KCWolfman
Copilot Lattimer
Bombardier Slayer Diablo
Navigator go bo
Engineer KCJohnny
Radio Op. Redcoats58
Tail Gunner voyager
Ball Turret Gunner munkey
Right Waist Gunner TheFly
Left Waist Gunner cdcox

Aircraft #5

Pilot ENDelt260
Copilot SNR
Bombardier Garcia Bronco
Navigator philfree
Engineer Talisman
Radio Op. AJKCFAN
Tail Gunner Radar Chief
Ball Turret Gunner hawaiianboy
Right Waist Gunner Scaga
Left Waist Gunner johnnyv13

Aircraft #6

Pilot frazod
Copilot raiderhader
Bombardier headsnap
Navigator KC-CHIEFS-FAN-TX
Engineer JazzzLovr
Radio Op. Alphaman
Tail Gunner CosmicPal
Ball Turret Gunner redbrian
Right Waist Gunner Chief Henry
Left Waist Gunner kcfanintitanhell

Aircraft #7

Pilot htismaqe
Copilot Bwana
Bombardier jAZ
Navigator jiveturkey
Engineer 58Forever
Radio Op. fbal4lif32
Tail Gunner SDChiefsfan
Ball Turret Gunner KC Dan
Right Waist Gunner ExtremeChief
Left Waist Gunner trndobrd

Aircraft #8

Pilot MrBlond
Copilot HC_Chief
Bombardier papasmurf
Navigator Chiefnj
Engineer Cochise
Radio Op. KS Smitty
Tail Gunner ndbbm
Ball Turret Gunner JefChef
Right Waist Gunner T-post Tom
Left Waist Gunner 6Iron

Aircraft #9

Pilot keg in kc
Copilot First Down Elvis
Bombardier Mark M
Navigator Coogs
Engineer ptlyon
Radio Op. Zebedee DuBois
Tail Gunner Otter
Ball Turret Gunner sportsshrink
Right Waist Gunner PunkinDrublic
Left Waist Gunner MiketheWildcat

Aircraft #10 (I think this aircraft will be quite lucky.)

Pilot Rain Man
Copilot tk13
Bombardier ChiTown
Navigator whoman69
Engineer Pitt Gorilla
Radio Op. KC Jones
Tail Gunner Duck Dog
Ball Turret Gunner DrNick
Right Waist Gunner Cormac
Left Waist Gunner The Rick

Aircraft #11

Pilot JOhn
Copilot Bob_Damned_Dole
Bombardier bkkcoh
Navigator WilliamTheIrish
Engineer Dartgod
Radio Op. ck_IN
Tail Gunner grandllama
Ball Turret Gunner CASHMAN
Right Waist Gunner Slim_Shady
Left Waist Gunner penchief

Aircraft #12 (Obviously on loan from the Soviets or something)

Pilot Taco John
Copilot Mile High Mania
Bombardier Joe Seahawk
Navigator BigChiefFan
Engineer ZachKC
Radio Op. Archie F. Swin
Tail Gunner suds79
Ball Turret Gunner oleman47
Right Waist Gunner RJ
Left Waist Gunner KC2003

Aircraft #13

Pilot DaWolf
Copilot LVNHACK
Bombardier the Talking Can
Navigator Ugly Duck
Engineer Eric Draven
Radio Op. shakesthecat
Tail Gunner Simplex3
Ball Turret Gunner mikey23545
Right Waist Gunner theultimatekcchiefsfan
Left Waist Gunner bunnytrdr

Aircraft #14

Pilot Psicosis
Copilot KCTitus
Bombardier Clint in Wichita
Navigator 2bikemike
Engineer Fat Elvis
Radio Op. chief52
Tail Gunner old_geezer
Ball Turret Gunner chiefsfan58
Right Waist Gunner RINGLEADER
Left Waist Gunner patteeu

Aircraft #15

Pilot Special Ed
Copilot KcMizzou
Bombardier Bearcat
Navigator alanm
Engineer gh4chiefs
Radio Op. mcan
Tail Gunner seclark
Ball Turret Gunner Luzap
Right Waist Gunner redhed
Left Waist Gunner ChiefGator

Aircraft #16

Pilot BIG_DADDY
Copilot Skip Towne
Bombardier RedNeckRaider
Navigator CHIEF4EVER
Engineer jcroft
Radio Op. Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan
Tail Gunner Cannibal
Ball Turret Gunner Over-Head
Right Waist Gunner bishop_74
Left Waist Gunner CanadaKC

Aircraft #17

Pilot lazarus
Copilot morphius
Bombardier EBOLA
Navigator Hydrae
Engineer BrainCase
Radio Op. nmt1
Tail Gunner brent102fire
Ball Turret Gunner mmaddog
Right Waist Gunner DaKCMan AP
Left Waist Gunner Chief Roundup

Aircraft #18

Pilot NaptownChief
Copilot tommykat
Bombardier PastorMikH
Navigator Mr. Christopher
Engineer B2chiefsfan
Radio Op. Adam
Tail Gunner Amnorix
Ball Turret Gunner KC Kings
Right Waist Gunner el borracho
Left Waist Gunner NewChief

Aircraft #19 (Great name for a Ball Turret Gunner there.)

Pilot Baby Lee
Copilot Brock Landers
Bombardier Boozer
Navigator Sure-Oz
Engineer BigOlChiefsfan
Radio Op. Gunther_Fan
Tail Gunner California Injun
Ball Turret Gunner Lightning Rod
Right Waist Gunner LegitimusGrim
Left Waist Gunner Chief Faithful

Aircraft #20

Pilot DenverChief
Copilot Iowanian
Bombardier Sky
Navigator Lzen
Engineer AustinChief
Radio Op. Michael Michigan
Tail Gunner DJay23
Ball Turret Gunner UMKC 1L
Right Waist Gunner mlyonsd
Left Waist Gunner PennyWise

Talisman
01-20-2004, 05:56 PM
Aircraft #5

Pilot ENDelt260
Copilot SNR
Bombardier Garcia Bronco
Navigator philfree
Engineer Talisman
Radio Op. AJKCFAN
Tail Gunner Radar Chief
Ball Turret Gunner hawaiianboy
Right Waist Gunner Scaga
Left Waist Gunner johnnyv13
Of course I would end up in the plane with a drunk pilot. :doh!:

Abba-Dabba
01-20-2004, 05:57 PM
Aircraft #2

Pilot Phobia
Copilot siberian khatru
Bombardier ROYC75
Navigator оо
Engineer Saggysack
Radio Op. WisChief
Tail Gunner Mi_chief_fan
Ball Turret Gunner cheeeefs
Right Waist Gunner mizzou5
Left Waist Gunner ChiefJustice

:thumb:

I'm sure I can keep Phobia well supplied with cold water during missions.

|Zach|
01-20-2004, 05:57 PM
Oh man...my plane #12 is piloted and co-piloted by Bronco fans and the 3rd in charge is a Seahawks fan, are you kidding me? Engineer ZachKC requesting transfer, over.

Rain Man
01-20-2004, 05:59 PM
Oh man...my plane #12 is piloted and co-piloted by Bronco fans and the 3rd in charge is a Seahawks fan, are you kidding me? Engineer ZachKC requesting transfer, over.

Yeah, I got a chuckle out of that. At least you'll have Pat Bowlen waiting for you on your return in a sexy fur coat.

Abba-Dabba
01-20-2004, 06:00 PM
Oh man...my plane #12 is piloted and co-piloted by Bronco fans and the 3rd in charge is a Seahawks fan, are you kidding me? Engineer ZachKC requesting transfer, over.

We will always find whiners in the military. :harumph:


It's time to put away team loyalties and get some patriotism!

|Zach|
01-20-2004, 06:00 PM
Yeah, I got a chuckle out of that. At least you'll have Pat Bowlen waiting for you on your return in a sexy fur coat.

I got one raw deal here.

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 06:01 PM
Aircraft #6

Pilot frazod
Copilot raiderhader
Bombardier headsnap
Navigator KC-CHIEFS-FAN-TX
Engineer JazzzLovr
Radio Op. Alphaman
Tail Gunner CosmicPal
Ball Turret Gunner redbrian
Right Waist Gunner Chief Henry
Left Waist Gunner kcfanintitanhell


SWEET! I'm copilot to Tim's pilot. This will be one hellavu ride. :D

|Zach|
01-20-2004, 06:01 PM
We will always find whiners in the military. :harumph:


It's time to put away team loyalties and get some patriotism!

My Plane is going to lose the war but come back with a huge belt...the 2 in charge are going to claim victory somehow.

Rain Man
01-20-2004, 06:02 PM
Aircraft #13 had better hope they don't lose a pilot. If Eric Draven gets promoted to navigator, they'll just fly around and around the target area but won't go in.

Zebedee DuBois
01-20-2004, 06:04 PM
"Someone should post a seating diagram of the plane." he said, lazily.

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 06:05 PM
Oh man...my plane #12 is piloted and co-piloted by Bronco fans and the 3rd in charge is a Seahawks fan, are you kidding me? Engineer ZachKC requesting transfer, over.


I found that wrong and interesting, but not nearly as interesting as Denise being Jim's copilot. :evil:

Of course she will probably become a conscienscious objector and he won't have to put up with her....

Dartgod
01-20-2004, 06:05 PM
Aircraft #11

Pilot JOhn
Copilot Bob_Damned_Dole
Bombardier bkkcoh
Navigator WilliamTheIrish
Engineer Dartgod
Radio Op. ck_IN
Tail Gunner grandllama
Ball Turret Gunner CASHMAN
Right Waist Gunner Slim_Shady
Left Waist Gunner penchief

Uhhhh....we're f***ed!

|Zach|
01-20-2004, 06:06 PM
I found that wrong and interesting, but not nearly as interesting as Denise being Jim's copilot. :evil:

Of course she will probably become a conscienscious objector and he won't have to put up with her....

I should take her place... :LOL:

We should have put all rival fans one plane and sent them on a suicide mission...

Rausch
01-20-2004, 06:07 PM
Oh, team 1 will SO 0wn you crash test dummies...... :)

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 06:07 PM
Uhhhh....we're f***ed!


ROFL

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 06:08 PM
I should take her place... :LOL:

We should have put all rival fans one plane and sent them on a suicide mission...



There's a thought.....

Rausch
01-20-2004, 06:10 PM
Uhhhh....we're f***ed!

ROFL .....I love it...... ROFL

http://www.univers-cite.qc.ca/tucs/crv/psa_f182/crash_r.jpg

|Zach|
01-20-2004, 06:11 PM
There's a thought.....

Well if i stay with the crew as is a few things will happen...

1)We will go out get killed and nobody will miss us.

2) We will go bomb our way to victory and nobody will care.

3)As I stated earlier we will will lose the war but come back with a huge wrestling belt on our plane with the pilot and co-pilot claiming victory.

Rain Man
01-20-2004, 06:11 PM
"Someone should post a seating diagram of the plane." he said, lazily.

See the link for a description, but basically the front dude in the picture is the bombardier, with the navigator sitting right behind him. They were in the extreme nose at the bottom of the plane.

The pilot and copilot sat next to each other further back and on top of the airplane.

The engineer/top turret gunner was right behind them, and stood when he was at his gun position.

The radio operator was about halfway back in the plane, and had a little sitting area with the radio.

The ball turret gunner was a little further back than the radio operator, hanging in a pod from the bottom of the aircraft.

The two waist gunners were back just a bit from the ball turret gunner.

The tail gunner is a long way from anyone in a pod at the end of the tail.

http://www.381st.org/aircraft-closeup.html

http://www.381st.org/images/b-17_nosesection.gif

http://www.381st.org/images/b-17_gunnerpositions.gif

Rausch
01-20-2004, 06:14 PM
Sweet.....me and der Gaz sit in relative comfort..... :)

Zebedee DuBois
01-20-2004, 06:16 PM
Gee Rain Man! That was wonderful of you to think of providing a diagram of the plane.


Why does everyone else on the plane have more bullets than me?

Rausch
01-20-2004, 06:18 PM
Too bad we don't have Tommkat on our plane or we could name it the "Foo Fighter."

:hmmm:

Anton
01-20-2004, 06:18 PM
Ooooo-ooooooo! Oooooo-OOOOOOO!

Is it too late for ME to be a "Tail gunner?" ;)

Zebedee DuBois
01-20-2004, 06:19 PM
Sweet.....me and der Gaz sit in relative comfort..... :)


You sound like a spy! Quick! Who won the World Series?

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 06:20 PM
Tho, I'm already giving serious consideration to naming my plane "Way Funnier Than Platoon".


I have a feeling our plane will be "I HATE DENVER".

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 06:22 PM
Ooooo-ooooooo! Oooooo-OOOOOOO!

Is it too late for ME to be a "Tail gunner?" ;)


Oh, dear, Lord.

Rausch
01-20-2004, 06:23 PM
You sound like a spy! Quick! Who won the World Series?

This is a trick question....no one watches baseball...

Rain Man
01-20-2004, 06:24 PM
You should post that link to the site w/ the example names. Even if it is down at the moment.

It's a great site, and it was up last night, so I'm presuming that it's a temporary problem.

The B-17 Reference (http://www.lancer.dial.pipex.com/b17/spec.htm)

Iowanian
01-20-2004, 06:25 PM
DC will probably name Boat 20 "the pink weinies" or something like that.....

But as Co-Pilot....I demand an escort from the Tuskeegee airmen.

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 06:25 PM
This is a trick question....no one watches baseball...



ROFL

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 06:27 PM
DC will probably name Boat 20 "the pink weinies" or something like that.....

But as Co-Pilot....I demand an escort from the Tuskeegee airmen.


ROFL The pink weinies!

tk13
01-20-2004, 06:28 PM
Aircraft #10 (I think this aircraft will be quite lucky.)

Pilot Rain Man
Copilot tk13
Bombardier ChiTown
Navigator whoman69
Engineer Pitt Gorilla
Radio Op. KC Jones
Tail Gunner Duck Dog
Ball Turret Gunner DrNick
Right Waist Gunner Cormac
Left Waist Gunner The Rick


Oh yeah, I think I'm on a good crew... very underrated. We'll be the Carolina Panthers of WWII.

That said, please, please, do not paint our plane apricot...

Abba-Dabba
01-20-2004, 06:30 PM
ROFL The pink weinies!

He was a scout...

It would have to be "The Pink Weinies, Out!"

Iowanian
01-20-2004, 06:31 PM
...or the "red rockets"....

If the CoPilot is naming the thing....its obviously the "savage Midget Carnivour bomberdiers"

The charicature on the nose, would be magnificent.


fwiw....I'm talkin' trash that would make Tokyo Rose Blush and hide over the PA from 50miles in/out. R Lee Ermy has nothin' on my war face...I'll be the Appollo Creed of Bombin' run speed, The Mohamed Ali of TNT.

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 06:32 PM
Oh man...my plane #12 is piloted and co-piloted by Bronco fans and the 3rd in charge is a Seahawks fan, are you kidding me? Engineer ZachKC requesting transfer, over.

You weren't this whinny in person!! Besides, at least you made a list, I wasn't good enough!!

tk13
01-20-2004, 06:34 PM
Of course I would end up in the plane with a drunk pilot. :doh!:
Don't worry, based on reading the algebra thread last night with the members of your group, if FDR happens to present you with an advanced calculus exam you'll pass with flying colors.

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 06:35 PM
He was a scout...

It would have to be "The Pink Weinies, Out!"


I'm not going anywhere near that. :D

Dartgod
01-20-2004, 06:37 PM
JOhn will probably name our plane ALgebra SUcks. I hope he can fly with those hooves he calls hands.

Rain Man
01-20-2004, 06:42 PM
You weren't this whinny in person!! Besides, at least you made a list, I wasn't good enough!!

You didn't have enough posts to get drafted. Wanna volunteer for the replacement crew list? Some of these guys won't last a day once the shooting starts.

trndobrd
01-20-2004, 06:44 PM
Aircraft #3 (Look for the plane with the "Give peace a chance" bumper sticker.)

Pilot Logical
Copilot memyselfi
Bombardier Hoover
Navigator The Bad Guy
Engineer JimNasium
Radio Op. BigChiefDave
Tail Gunner kcnut
Ball Turret Gunner Ecto-I
Right Waist Gunner Warrior5
Left Waist Gunner cntrygal




Log, memi, and Hoover in the same bird? You sir, are a sick individual.

KcMizzou
01-20-2004, 06:46 PM
Aircraft #15

Pilot Special Ed
Copilot KcMizzou
Bombardier Bearcat
Navigator alanm
Engineer gh4chiefs
Radio Op. mcan
Tail Gunner seclark
Ball Turret Gunner Luzap
Right Waist Gunner redhed
Left Waist Gunner ChiefGator

Oh man. Talk about "the blind leading the blind". Better bring a helmet....

Dartgod
01-20-2004, 06:46 PM
You should have posted this diagram also. It might be important.

http://www.381st.org/images/b-17_bailoutdiagram.gif

tk13
01-20-2004, 06:47 PM
Uhhhh.... hold your horses there, cowboy. I haven't sniffed a calculus exam since fall of `97.

I've probably got the same chance of passing one now as I do of having sex with Jaime Pressly this weekend.
Oh. Well sorry Talisman, looks like you should store a extra parachute in your plane...

trndobrd
01-20-2004, 06:47 PM
Okay, everyone. You've been drafted, you've been through basic training, and now you're in England. Your crew assignments are posted below. If you volunteered for duty, please check to be sure your name is on here. If not, let me know ASAP.




Where are the English dames? I want to take my flight pay and go show some English bird a good time. Maybe get her some chocolate and silk stockings, take her out for a night on the town, if you know what I mean.

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 06:47 PM
You didn't have enough posts to get drafted. Wanna volunteer for the replacement crew list? Some of these guys won't last a day once the shooting starts.

I was j/k. If some of these guys won't last a day, then I probably won't last 30 minutes!

Rausch
01-20-2004, 06:50 PM
I was j/k. If some of these guys won't last a day, then I probably won't last 30 minutes!

Heh.....heh heh........ :Elvis:

Zebedee DuBois
01-20-2004, 06:51 PM
What was the mortality rate?

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 06:51 PM
Whats the game? What exactly do you do? What are the rules?

Come on Rain Man your slacking, you should know that you have to spell it out to some of the the slower folks like myself!

Iowanian
01-20-2004, 06:52 PM
I was j/k. If some of these guys won't last a day, then I probably won't last 30 minutes!

These Other guys probably WISH they'd last 30 minutes.

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 06:52 PM
Heh.....heh heh........ :Elvis:

What are you laughing about, you will probably one of the first gone!!

Dartgod
01-20-2004, 06:54 PM
I'm reserving Commando Chief as the name of our plane. We even have the nose art done already. As long as JOhn doesn't object.

http://www.381st.org/noseart/commandochief.jpg

Bowser
01-20-2004, 06:54 PM
I feel like the last kid to get picked for kickball. I guess my having less than 20 posts and zero rep gets me a big fat 4321 . You run a tough post, Rainman! :deevee:

tk13
01-20-2004, 06:57 PM
Whats the game? What exactly do you do? What are the rules?

Come on Rain Man your slacking, you should know that you have to spell it out to some of the the slower folks like myself!
There was a big huge thread about this yesterday. Look it up.

old_geezer
01-20-2004, 06:57 PM
The tail gunner is a long way from anyone in a pod at the end of the tail.

Hey! I bathe regularly.

I want our plane to be named something like "The Missouri Jackass". "Where's the tail-gunner Capt.? " Where he's supposed to be....in the back shooting ammo out his ass."

Rain Man
01-20-2004, 06:58 PM
What was the mortality rate?

When I ran my simulations, it was 95 percent over 25 missions. Best of luck to you.

Dartgod
01-20-2004, 06:58 PM
I hate when that happens. You get all sweaty and tired. Get me in and out of there in about two. Who gives a f*ck about her.
Hey END, got the name and nose art for your plane right here:

http://www.381st.org/noseart/chugaluglulu.jpg

Rain Man
01-20-2004, 06:59 PM
I feel like the last kid to get picked for kickball. I guess my having less than 20 posts and zero rep gets me a big fat 4321 . You run a tough post, Rainman! :deevee:


You're third in line on the replacement crews, bowser, right after rednfeisty and donger.

Rain Man
01-20-2004, 07:02 PM
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Frazod
01-20-2004, 07:07 PM
I have a feeling our plane will be "I HATE DENVER".

Yeah, and guess what we're bombing first.... :#

Zebedee DuBois
01-20-2004, 07:09 PM
When I ran my simulations, it was 95 percent over 25 missions. Best of luck to you.

So after 25 missions, you would expect one of the twenty planes to survive? Does the fact that we don't have replacement aircraft factor in? What I mean is, 20 planes fly out the first day, and 16 come back. 20% mortality. If 16 planes go out the next day, 20% mortality means 3 (3.2) planes buy it. Doesn' the fact that fewer planes go out each day mean that you have a greater and greater chance of cashing out? Based on fewer numbers rather than total number of missions?

Mosbonian
01-20-2004, 07:11 PM
Sweet.....me and der Gaz sit in relative comfort..... :)

I'm not sure that as a Pilot you should be that comfortable with a guy who takes bubble baths...

:hmmm: :hmmm: :hmmm:

mmaddog
*******

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 07:11 PM
Yeah, and guess what we're bombing first.... :#


:D I've already been busy working out plans for setting 1 or 2 bombs aside every mission to use on France. While Denver will be a bit more difficult due to location, I think we can figure a way to get it done.

Zebedee DuBois
01-20-2004, 07:15 PM
Aircraft #9

Pilot keg in kc
Copilot First Down Elvis
Bombardier Mark M
Navigator Coogs
Engineer ptlyon
Radio Op. Zebedee DuBois
Tail Gunner Otter
Ball Turret Gunner sportsshrink
Right Waist Gunner PunkinDrublic
Left Waist Gunner MiketheWildcat


I might suggest the name. Nattering Nabobs of Napalm if it is OK to use mixed war references.

Garcia Bronco
01-20-2004, 07:17 PM
What are you doing Garcia?


Dropin bombs...dropin bombs.

Rain Man
01-20-2004, 07:18 PM
So after 25 missions, you would expect one of the twenty planes to survive? Does the fact that we don't have replacement aircraft factor in? What I mean is, 20 planes fly out the first day, and 16 come back. 20% mortality. If 16 planes go out the next day, 20% mortality means 3 (3.2) planes buy it. Doesn' the fact that fewer planes go out each day mean that you have a greater and greater chance of cashing out? Based on fewer numbers rather than total number of missions?


The 95 percent factor was based on my running of simulations for 23 planes with 230 crew members. Of those 230 crew members, 12 survived through 25 missions, and the most of which who survived on one individual crew was four. I think that one or two actual aircraft survived, but I don't have the papers in front of me to check. Some of the crew members survived 25 missions by bailing out of a crashing plane and then joining another crew.

Our numbers may vary, though, because I'll shuffle the missions and won't fly them again in the same order and aircraft lineup.

In real terms, I think this mortality is probably somewhat accurate if the loss rates from the early days of the Air War held up. In WWII, though, the losses to German fighters over time meant that the survival rate was actually very high from early 1944 on. I guess for simulation purposes we can assume that our missions are in 1943.

|Zach|
01-20-2004, 07:19 PM
Dropin bombs...dropin bombs.

Excited for our bombing runs?

Frazod
01-20-2004, 07:24 PM
:D I've already been busy working out plans for setting 1 or 2 bombs aside every mission to use on France. While Denver will be a bit more difficult due to location, I think we can figure a way to get it done.

Denver will be easy to find.

Look for the mountains, follow the smell. :D

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 07:28 PM
Denver will be easy to find.

Look for the mountains, follow the smell. :D


It's not finding it that is the problem, it's getting from England to Colorado that presents a problem. Logistics and the military considering us AWOL and trying to take us down is more of what I was thinking of.

But like I said, we'll find away to get it done. ;)

Frazod
01-20-2004, 07:29 PM
It's not finding it that is the problem, it's getting from England to Colorado that presents a problem. Logistics and the military considering us AWOL and trying to take us down is more of what I was thinking of.

But like I said, we'll find away to get it done. ;)

England? My plane will be based in KC. :p

Rain Man
01-20-2004, 07:30 PM
Denver might get you shot, but the nice thing is that France is still occupied at this point, so you get to bomb France a lot.

Frazod
01-20-2004, 07:31 PM
Denver might get you shot, but the nice thing is that France is still occupied at this point, so you get to bomb France a lot.

I WANT TO BOMB DENVER, DAMMIT! :cuss:

I'll use the big white mule as a reference point. :evil:

Rain Man
01-20-2004, 07:33 PM
Maybe Garcia was just posting a rhetorical question.

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 07:34 PM
England? My plane will be based in KC. :p


I had not been informed of this. It is very good news though.


A bombing we will go,
A bombing we will go,
Boom goes the Invesco
A bombing we will go!

Zebedee DuBois
01-20-2004, 07:38 PM
The 95 percent factor was based on my running of simulations for 23 planes with 230 crew members. Of those 230 crew members, 12 survived through 25 missions, and the most of which who survived on one individual crew was four. I think that one or two actual aircraft survived, but I don't have the papers in front of me to check. Some of the crew members survived 25 missions by bailing out of a crashing plane and then joining another crew.

Our numbers may vary, though, because I'll shuffle the missions and won't fly them again in the same order and aircraft lineup.

In real terms, I think this mortality is probably somewhat accurate if the loss rates from the early days of the Air War held up. In WWII, though, the losses to German fighters over time meant that the survival rate was actually very high from early 1944 on. I guess for simulation purposes we can assume that our missions are in 1943.

So, the twenty Chiefsplanet crews are not a squadron unto themselves. We are just 20 planes in the Allied arsenel that may fly any mission, with countless other crews. Is that correct. If I look out the window of my plane, I won't likely see Frazod in the next plane over trying to go to Denver. I might see some poor frightened unknown radio man wondering if he'll ever see his wife again and if she will ever learn to work the stick shift in the Hudson.

Rain Man
01-20-2004, 07:41 PM
So, the twenty Chiefsplanet crews are not a squadron unto themselves. We are just 20 planes in the Allied arsenel that may fly any mission, with countless other crews. Is that correct. If I look out the window of my plane, I won't likely see Frazod in the next plane over trying to go to Denver. I might see some poor frightened unknown radio man wondering if he'll ever see his wife again and if she will ever learn to work the stick shift in the Hudson.


Yep. At some future point we could put everyone in one unit, but that would mean all going to the same target and putting one plane on lead, etc., which I didn't do in these simulations. You're all at different bases heading to different targets.

kcfanintitanhell
01-20-2004, 07:42 PM
ROFL .....I love it...... ROFL

http://www.univers-cite.qc.ca/tucs/crv/psa_f182/crash_r.jpg

Isn't this a photo of the plane that collided with a small aircraft over San Diego, or are civilian planes from the future fair game?
I think it was a commonly asked question among waist gunners....

Mosbonian
01-20-2004, 07:42 PM
Aircraft #17

Pilot lazarus
Copilot morphius
Bombardier EBOLA
Navigator Hydrae
Engineer BrainCase
Radio Op. nmt1
Tail Gunner brent102fire
Ball Turret Gunner mmaddog
Right Waist Gunner DaKCMan AP
Left Waist Gunner Chief Roundup

This has to be the best group......knowing that lazarus will have things all backwards, the crew will mutiny and take over the plane.....Morphius will take over as pilot and Red-N-Feisty will take over as CO-Pilot....

Pilot- Morphius: Who better to go hunting the enemy than him...with a lovely Co-Pilot like Red-N-Feisty to keep up his "morale".

Bombardier-EBOLA: I think this one needs no explanation....

Navigator: Hydrae: Who better to navigate in the wild blue yonder that Gamma Hydrae....

Engineer-Braincase: His double duty will be not only to make sure that all functions properly on the plane, but to also ensure that laz doesn't get loose and send us back in the wrong direction.

As for the guys with the ammo.....who else would you want back firing the guns but guys named "Roundup, Dallas, and mmaddog...

mmaddog
**********

KCWolfman
01-20-2004, 07:44 PM
I get to be a piiiiilot, I get to be a piiiilot.

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 07:47 PM
Supposedly, the translation is "Death from Above"

http://www.airpowermuseum.org/pix/ambcmz35.jpg


Tim,
name the plane what ever you want, but I must insist on this nose art.

KCWolfman
01-20-2004, 07:50 PM
Jim and Denise on the same plane....... I hope they are on the opposite end of the tarmac. Of course, my crew will be interesting as well. Lattimer will abuse the ones I forget to be rude to. SD will be discussing possibilities of damage instead of actually dropping the bombs. voyager will give us a full background on every single pilot who is rising in the german ranks. gobo will be a great navigator with his Indian blood.

Frazod
01-20-2004, 07:50 PM
Tim,
name the plane what ever you want, but I must insist on this nose art.

Negative. Find one with a bigger rack. :p

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 07:52 PM
Negative. Find one with a bigger rack. :p


:grrr:


Delt, what else ya got?

KCWolfman
01-20-2004, 07:53 PM
Negative. Find one with a bigger rack. :p
Cool pun, and I bet you didn't even realize you made one.

NaptownChief
01-20-2004, 07:56 PM
Aircraft #18

Pilot NaptownChief
Copilot tommykat
Bombardier PastorMikH
Navigator Mr. Christopher
Engineer B2chiefsfan
Radio Op. Adam
Tail Gunner Amnorix
Ball Turret Gunner KC Kings
Right Waist Gunner el borracho
Left Waist Gunner NewChief




Tommykat is going to have to stay off the sauce if she is going to be copilot.

Rain Man
01-20-2004, 07:56 PM
I dunno. That "Death from Above" woman is pretty striking. Maybe we should take it if you guys don't take dibs. Whaddya think, crew of #10?

Frazod
01-20-2004, 07:57 PM
:grrr:


Delt, what else ya got?

Here's one.

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 07:59 PM
I dunno. That "Death from Above" woman is pretty striking. Maybe we should take it if you guys don't take dibs. Whaddya think, crew of #10?


HEY NOW! Hands off. I'm not through bugging Tim about it yet......

Frazod
01-20-2004, 07:59 PM
Here's another one:

Rain Man
01-20-2004, 08:01 PM
Queen of Clubs must symbolize someone clubbing her in the leg. It looks like it's broken in six places.

KCWolfman
01-20-2004, 08:01 PM
Of course, Sky Captain, would be nice. I am much more a Sky Captain than Jude Law will ever be.

Frazod
01-20-2004, 08:02 PM
But I REALLY like this one.... :drool:

MrBlond
01-20-2004, 08:03 PM
Pilot MrBlond
Copilot HC_Chief
Bombardier papasmurf
Navigator Chiefnj
Engineer Cochise
Radio Op. KS Smitty
Tail Gunner ndbbm
Ball Turret Gunner JefChef
Right Waist Gunner T-post Tom
Left Waist Gunner 6Iron




Did I mention that I have a fear of flying?

Garcia Bronco
01-20-2004, 08:03 PM
When did I post "What are you doing Garcia?" ?


Just then...

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 08:03 PM
Geez Tim, my girl was at least topless.....

KCWolfman
01-20-2004, 08:05 PM
YES!!!!

Frazod
01-20-2004, 08:05 PM
Geez Tim, my girl was at least topless.....

Well, we're going with the GI babe.

And it's just as well she's not topless. I wouldn't want you getting confused right before you get on the plane..... :D

Rain Man
01-20-2004, 08:06 PM
Hey, logical...

http://www.aero-art.com/noseart/darngden.jpg

Rain Man
01-20-2004, 08:08 PM
Hey, logical...

http://www.aero-art.com/noseart/darngden.jpg

Rats. It won't show up. Go about halfway down the page here.http://www.aero-art.com/noseart/darngden.jpg

JazzzLovr
01-20-2004, 08:08 PM
Hey, logical...

ROFL

tommykat
01-20-2004, 08:09 PM
Too bad we don't have Tommkat on our plane or we could name it the "Foo Fighter."

:hmmm:

ROFL Just reading all of this.......

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 08:09 PM
Well, we're going with the GI babe.

And it's just as well she's not topless. I wouldn't want you getting confused right before you get on the plane..... :D


nlm


Well Kevin, looks like it is all yours.

KCWolfman
01-20-2004, 08:11 PM
I found some plane art for Jim and Denise

KCWolfman
01-20-2004, 08:12 PM
Hey, logical...

http://www.aero-art.com/noseart/darngden.jpg

Rats. It won't show up. Go about halfway down the page here.http://www.aero-art.com/noseart/darngden.jpg
I get this:

Directly downloading images is not permitted on the Netfirms FREE plan. If you are the owner of this site, either ensure that this image is embedded in a web page, or upgrade to one of the Netfirms premium plans.

Frazod
01-20-2004, 08:13 PM
I would also add that anyone who wants to switch planes had better submit their requests to Kevin quickly.

I understand he lives rather close to my first target..... :fire:

tommykat
01-20-2004, 08:17 PM
Aircraft #18

Pilot NaptownChief
Copilot tommykat
Bombardier PastorMikH
Navigator Mr. Christopher
Engineer B2chiefsfan
Radio Op. Adam
Tail Gunner Amnorix
Ball Turret Gunner KC Kings
Right Waist Gunner el borracho
Left Waist Gunner NewChief




Tommykat is going to have to stay off the sauce if she is going to be copilot.

Who Moi? I love ice tea and diet Pepsi...........can you handle that captain? :p

Frazod
01-20-2004, 08:18 PM
I get this:

Directly downloading images is not permitted on the Netfirms FREE plan. If you are the owner of this site, either ensure that this image is embedded in a web page, or upgrade to one of the Netfirms premium plans.


Same here. :spock:

Rain Man
01-20-2004, 08:19 PM
nlm


Well Kevin, looks like it is all yours.


Woo-hoo! With the blessing of the crew of Plane #10, I would like to use this nose art and name our plane "Rain of Terror."

http://www.airpowermuseum.org/pix/ambcmz35.jpg

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 08:19 PM
Aircraft #17

Pilot lazarus
Copilot morphius
Bombardier EBOLA
Navigator Hydrae
Engineer BrainCase
Radio Op. nmt1
Tail Gunner brent102fire
Ball Turret Gunner mmaddog
Right Waist Gunner DaKCMan AP
Left Waist Gunner Chief Roundup

This has to be the best group......knowing that lazarus will have things all backwards, the crew will mutiny and take over the plane.....Morphius will take over as pilot and Red-N-Feisty will take over as CO-Pilot....

Pilot- Morphius: Who better to go hunting the enemy than him...with a lovely Co-Pilot like Red-N-Feisty to keep up his "morale".

Bombardier-EBOLA: I think this one needs no explanation....

Navigator: Hydrae: Who better to navigate in the wild blue yonder that Gamma Hydrae....

Engineer-Braincase: His double duty will be not only to make sure that all functions properly on the plane, but to also ensure that laz doesn't get loose and send us back in the wrong direction.

As for the guys with the ammo.....who else would you want back firing the guns but guys named "Roundup, Dallas, and mmaddog...
mmaddog
**********

Hey, I want to join this crew!!

MrBlond
01-20-2004, 08:19 PM
Introducing the crew of Bomber#8, aka: The Helen Hywater.

Pilot MrBlond
Copilot HC_Chief
Bombardier papasmurf
Navigator Chiefnj
Engineer Cochise
Radio Op. KS Smitty
Tail Gunner ndbbm
Ball Turret Gunner JefChef
Right Waist Gunner T-post Tom
Left Waist Gunner 6Iron

Rain Man
01-20-2004, 08:20 PM
Same here. :spock:


I dunno what the problem is, because I'm getting it, too. The art was a naked chick emblazoned with "Daring Denise."

papasmurf
01-20-2004, 08:20 PM
Great! I get to blow chit up.:thumb:

Rain Man
01-20-2004, 08:21 PM
Hey, I want to join this crew!!


That's fine. One of them has to die first, though.

KCWolfman
01-20-2004, 08:22 PM
That's fine. One of them has to die first, though.
You are a cold hearted god.

tommykat
01-20-2004, 08:24 PM
NaptownChief

So no one is working on our plane? Well chit, the pilot is a flunkey.....where is the pastor with his fire truck when we need him??? :deevee:

Skip Towne
01-20-2004, 08:27 PM
Damn, Rainman, you put two Raiders on our plane. Are you sure they are on our side?

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 08:28 PM
http://www.fsu.edu/~ww2/nose-art/pinups_miss.gif

Despite the pun of its name, the Luftwaffe did not miss this aircraft: the B-24 on which it was painted was shot down over Yugoslavia on October 14, 1944.

Personally, I favor this one!!

Mosbonian
01-20-2004, 08:30 PM
That's fine. One of them has to die first, though.

We found out that lazarus was a double spy...he didn't believe in the "American Way".....we only found out as we were preparing to take off....lucky for us Corporal R-N-F was ready in her flight suit and hopped in....we decided to keep lazarus and tie him to the test bomb that we dropped on Denver on our way out....figured fraz's team could use a beacon for when they drop their bombs...

mmaddog
********

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 08:31 PM
Whoever gets RednFeisty on their crew needs this

http://www.bombergirl.com/images/noseart/bombtotinmama.jpg

She is to ugly!

Mosbonian
01-20-2004, 08:33 PM
Personally, I favor this one!!

R-N-F:

I thought enlisted personnel weren't supposed to pose for those type of pics....

mmaddog
********

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 08:33 PM
We found out that lazarus was a double spy...he didn't believe in the "American Way".....we only found out as we were preparing to take off....lucky for us Corporal R-N-F was ready in her flight suit and hopped in....we decided to keep lazarus and tie him to the test bomb that we dropped on Denver on our way out....figured fraz's team could use a beacon for when they drop their bombs...

mmaddog
********

LMFAO ROFL

Now, don't get lazarus after me, I don't want to be killed before I can play!

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 08:34 PM
R-N-F:

I thought enlisted personnel weren't supposed to pose for those type of pics....

mmaddog
********

That was my cousin!

papasmurf
01-20-2004, 08:36 PM
Introducing the crew of Bomber#8, aka: The Helen Hywater.

Pilot MrBlond
Copilot HC_Chief
Bombardier papasmurf
Navigator Chiefnj
Engineer Cochise
Radio Op. KS Smitty
Tail Gunner ndbbm
Ball Turret Gunner JefChef
Right Waist Gunner T-post Tom
Left Waist Gunner 6Iron

Good choice Captain. I getr to sit on the front row.

Mosbonian
01-20-2004, 08:38 PM
That was my cousin!

That's our story and we're sticking to it!!!

mmaddog
********

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 08:42 PM
That's our story and we're sticking to it!!!

mmaddog
********
:thumb:

Logical
01-20-2004, 08:45 PM
Aircraft #3 (Look for the plane with the "Give peace a chance" bumper sticker.)

Pilot Logical
Copilot memyselfi
Bombardier Hoover
Navigator The Bad Guy
Engineer JimNasium
Radio Op. BigChiefDave
Tail Gunner kcnut
Ball Turret Gunner Ecto-I
Right Waist Gunner Warrior5
Left Waist Gunner cntrygal




Well if we do not kill each other we will be the most vicious set of crew dogs on the earth.

Fear us,
Fear each other
Don't let the Pilot and Copilot have guns!!!

ChiefJustice
01-20-2004, 08:48 PM
Phobia...i'd like to nominate this as our nose art.

Skip Towne
01-20-2004, 08:55 PM
Plane # 16 is a cinch for great nose art. We have Big Daddy for our pilot.

morphius
01-20-2004, 08:58 PM
She is to ugly!
Have to agree with that one, doesn't do you justice at all.

Logical
01-20-2004, 08:59 PM
Aircraft #19 (Great name for a Ball Turret Gunner there.)

Pilot Baby Lee
Copilot Brock Landers
Bombardier Boozer
Navigator Sure-Oz
Engineer BigOlChiefsfan
Radio Op. Gunther_Fan
Tail Gunner California Injun
Ball Turret Gunner Lightning Rod
Right Waist Gunner LegitimusGrim
Left Waist Gunner Chief Faithful



Holy shiite don't give them a plane set them down at the peace conference with the enemy. The pilot, co-pilot and bombadier will talk them into submission.

Mosbonian
01-20-2004, 09:03 PM
Well if we do not kill each other we will be the most vicious set of crew dogs on the earth.

Fear us,
Fear each other
Don't let the Pilot and Copilot have guns!!!

Sorry....except for Countrygal,Warrior, and The Bad Guy, there isn't another person who inspires fear in my heart on this crew....

Logical and meme would constantly be fighting over who is in control, thus you would be doing nothing but going in circles...

In her spare time, meme would also have sabotaged the guns to fire only "love" bullets....one's that explode several hundred feet above the ground and when they do explode they spread roses and daisy's.....

Jimnasium would be having to fight with meme about what she did to sabotage all the radar and mechanical gadgetry....

Big ChiefDAve would be going crazy because all he would be able to raise on the radio is the "All Democrats For Dean Channel" thanks to meme sabotaging the radio.....the channel would be playing a 24-hour version of John Lennon's "Give Peace A Chance".....

Withing hours of taking off, Warrior, CG and The Bad Guy would have killed everyone else or parachuted out for their own safety....

mmaddog
********

morphius
01-20-2004, 09:07 PM
Maddog - Have to agree, we have one mean sounding team. You have to be crazy to be in the belly of the beast, and maddog nails it.

I'm think, with RednFiesty we should look at a name like "Deep Red" ;)

alanm
01-20-2004, 09:08 PM
Kewl.. I'm a Officer:thumb:

Mosbonian
01-20-2004, 09:09 PM
Have to agree with that one, doesn't do you justice at all.

Hey Morphius...our Ace Pilot appears.....

Just to update you, we discovered that lazarus was a double spy and a traitor...Corporal R-N-F luckily was in her flight suit awaiting a call...she has taken over as your co-pilot and has promised to help keep up the "morale" of our esteeemed Ace Pilot should he tire out on the long flight....

We do have one small training drop on our way...we are attaching lazarus to a beacon bomb we are going to drop over Denver to mark a target for Fraz's plane to drop part of their munitions over Invesco Stadium....

mmaddog
********

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 09:11 PM
We found out that lazarus was a double spy...he didn't believe in the "American Way".....we only found out as we were preparing to take off....lucky for us Corporal R-N-F was ready in her flight suit and hopped in....we decided to keep lazarus and tie him to the test bomb that we dropped on Denver on our way out....figured fraz's team could use a beacon for when they drop their bombs...

mmaddog
********


Excuse me, we are a pretty compitent crew. I think we can find the target just fine.

Mosbonian
01-20-2004, 09:11 PM
Maddog - Have to agree, we have one mean sounding team. You have to be crazy to be in the belly of the beast, and maddog nails it.

I'm think, with RednFiesty we should look at a name like "Deep Red" ;)

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Garcia Bronco
01-20-2004, 09:12 PM
Hey Morphius...our Ace Pilot appears.....

Just to update you, we discovered that lazarus was a double spy and a traitor...Corporal R-N-F luckily was in her flight suit awaiting a call...she has taken over as your co-pilot and has promised to help keep up the "morale" of our esteeemed Ace Pilot should he tire out on the long flight....

We do have one small training drop on our way...we are attaching lazarus to a beacon bomb we are going to drop over Denver to mark a target for Fraz's plane to drop part of their munitions over Invesco Stadium....

mmaddog
********



dude...Mile High has a missle defense system.

Mosbonian
01-20-2004, 09:13 PM
Excuse me, we are a pretty compitent crew. I think we can find the target just fine.

Ahem.....it's "competent".....

Need I say more about needing a target?

mmaddog
*********

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 09:14 PM
dude...Mile High has a missle defense system.



Not for long.......

Mosbonian
01-20-2004, 09:14 PM
dude...Mile High has a missle defense system.

Sorry Garcia....you actually have a "missing" defense system...

mmaddog
********

Frazod
01-20-2004, 09:14 PM
dude...Mile High has a missle defense system.

Alas, Sky Captain Manning has proven that both our missile defense systems are inadequate. :D

Logical
01-20-2004, 09:14 PM
Excuse me, we are a pretty compitent crew. I think we can find the target just fine.


Yes undoubtedly being as you are compitent.

Frazod
01-20-2004, 09:16 PM
Yes undoubtedly being as you are compitent.

:banghead:

Thank God he's the copilot.

If he had a real job, I'd be forced to shoot him. :D

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 09:16 PM
Ahem.....it's "competent".....

Need I say more about needing a target?

mmaddog
*********


One wrong letter means we don't know how to fly, navigate, and drop a bomb on a hostile enemy?

C'mon now, everyone has typos.

Logical
01-20-2004, 09:17 PM
Sorry....except for Countrygal,Warrior, and The Bad Guy, there isn't another person who inspires fear in my heart on this crew....

Logical and meme would constantly be fighting over who is in control, thus you would be doing nothing but going in circles...

In her spare time, meme would also have sabotaged the guns to fire only "love" bullets....one's that explode several hundred feet above the ground and when they do explode they spread roses and daisy's.....

Jimnasium would be having to fight with meme about what she did to sabotage all the radar and mechanical gadgetry....

Big ChiefDAve would be going crazy because all he would be able to raise on the radio is the "All Democrats For Dean Channel" thanks to meme sabotaging the radio.....the channel would be playing a 24-hour version of John Lennon's "Give Peace A Chance".....

Withing hours of taking off, Warrior, CG and The Bad Guy would have killed everyone else or parachuted out for their own safety....

mmaddog
********


No, no, no I have assigned mememe to teach Kcnut English and Grammar thus taking them both out of action and increasing crew effectiveness 100%.

alanm
01-20-2004, 09:18 PM
Aircraft #15

Pilot Special Ed
Copilot KcMizzou
Bombardier Bearcat
Navigator alanm
Engineer gh4chiefs
Radio Op. mcan
Tail Gunner seclark
Ball Turret Gunner Luzap
Right Waist Gunner redhed
Left Waist Gunner ChiefGator

Oh man. Talk about "the blind leading the blind". Better bring a helmet.... We'll be fine.(The Navigator says as the right wing falls off)ROFL

morphius
01-20-2004, 09:21 PM
No, no, no I have assigned mememe to teach Kcnut English and Grammar thus taking them both out of action and increasing crew effectiveness 100%.
The only sad thing is that she will be arguing how much better they would be if they had Gannon's arm to throw the bomb's and how they could have found a peaceful resolution to this matter is her guy had been elected. Face it, you are in trouble.

morphius
01-20-2004, 09:22 PM
One wrong letter means we don't know how to fly, navigate, and drop a bomb on a hostile enemy?

C'mon now, everyone has typos.
Don't worry, you can still be our wingman.

old_geezer
01-20-2004, 09:24 PM
Talk about the man for the job! Aircraft #14 has the perfect bombardier - Clint in Wichita. He's been dropping bombs on this BB for a long time. :)

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 09:27 PM
Don't worry, you can still be our wingman.



:spock:

Slayer Diablo
01-20-2004, 09:29 PM
I nominate Aircraft #3 as the bodyguard for all other aircraft :fire:

Fat Elvis
01-20-2004, 09:29 PM
Talk about the man for the job! Aircraft #14 has the perfect bombardier - Clint in Wichita. He's been dropping bombs on this BB for a long time. :)


So, like do I drive a train or something on Aircraft #14?

morphius
01-20-2004, 09:33 PM
:spock: Hey with your past admirer's just be happy I didn't say that you would be a perfect fit at tail gunner.

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 09:36 PM
Hey with your past admirer's just be happy I didn't say that you would be a perfect fit at tail gunner.



Anton has already shown up and claimed that position.

kcfanintitanhell
01-20-2004, 09:36 PM
-It (the B-17) took such a beating it broke into three parts, and the pilot 1st Lt. Cyril Stidd and the two officers in the nose rode it down. It crashed in the Alps. The rest, they were taken prisoner and lived to come home. Donley and a very good buddy who lived in my tent by the name of Howard F. Brown from Wichita were flying waist, and Howard was trying to help the ball turret gunner out just as it broke apart and Donley jumped. Howard, the ball turret gunner and tail gunner were killed and their bodies were found still in the center section. The others jumped about the time Donley did and were all taken as POW's.

So, if we go down, get out alive, get taken prisoner, and escape, can we be reinstated and get back in the game?

Mosbonian
01-20-2004, 09:38 PM
Hey with your past admirer's just be happy I didn't say that you would be a perfect fit at tail gunner.

REP!!!!!

mmaddog
********

old_geezer
01-20-2004, 09:38 PM
So, like do I drive a train or something on Aircraft #14?

Good question. I have no idea what an engineer does on a B-52. Anybody?

morphius
01-20-2004, 09:41 PM
Good question. I have no idea what an engineer does on a B-52. Anybody?
I think you stare at instruments, and maybe fix stuff.

stanleychief
01-20-2004, 09:41 PM
When I ran my simulations, it was 95 percent over 25 missions. Best of luck to you.
Yikes! I'd like to signup as an enemy fighter pilot with those odds. Hmm.. or a mortician back in the homeland. That sounds profitable, and it's a great way to meet chics I hear! :p

Mosbonian
01-20-2004, 09:42 PM
Morphius:


Where's your Co-Pilot.....did she go into the Flight Room to change into her "Flight" Suit to help with...ahem..."morale"?

mmaddog
********

ChiefJustice
01-20-2004, 09:45 PM
Good question. I have no idea what an engineer does on a B-52. Anybody?

Mechanic basically...fix hydraulic leaks...repair fuel lines..squelch fires and the like.At least i think that is the main job....keep the bird flying.

Braincase
01-20-2004, 09:46 PM
I think you stare at instruments, and maybe fix stuff.

I'm on morphius' boat, so I watch the instruments and make sure nobody knocks over the still.

morphius
01-20-2004, 09:48 PM
Morphius:


Where's your Co-Pilot.....did she go into the Flight Room to change into her "Flight" Suit to help with...ahem..."morale"?

mmaddog
********
I guess I must have wore her out.

Sorry, working to turn every thread about sex, it makes JOhn happy, and lord knows with him as pilot, they have little hope. Its bad when a guy who can't even get a full time school bus driving gig, gets to be the pilot...

Braincase
01-20-2004, 09:51 PM
Aircraft 17 - WE NEED NOSEART!

Miss Conduct?
http://www.100thbg.com/spotlight/b17_profiles/images/missconduct_nose.jpg

morphius
01-20-2004, 09:54 PM
I'm on morphius' boat, so I watch the instruments and make sure nobody knocks over the still.
We've got the Brain's, we have MMad gunners, we bring the worst of all weapons in Ebola, lord knows with RedNFiesty we have the looks, and Morphius will lay his enemy to rest.

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 10:11 PM
Maddog - Have to agree, we have one mean sounding team. You have to be crazy to be in the belly of the beast, and maddog nails it.

I'm think, with RednFiesty we should look at a name like "Deep Red" ;)

Guys, I'm not part of the crew yet. Heck I may never be, like Rain Man said, someone has to die first. I guess you could just hid me away in the back somewhere!!

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 10:12 PM
We've got the Brain's, we have MMad gunners, we bring the worst of all weapons in Ebola, lord knows with RedNFiesty we have the looks, and Morphius will lay his enemy to rest.

Hey now wait a minute, I have more to offer then just looks!! :p

morphius
01-20-2004, 10:17 PM
Hey now wait a minute, I have more to offer then just looks!! :p
I didn't say that is all you bring, sheesh, women :D

Jenson71
01-20-2004, 10:18 PM
I guess *sob*...I'll just have to go on and *sob*...and make*sob*....and make my own crew. *sob*

Oh one is the loneliest number...

:deevee:

Mosbonian
01-20-2004, 10:18 PM
Hey now wait a minute, I have more to offer then just looks!! :p

You have it all wrong RNF....what he means by that is that you have good eyesight!!!

ROFL ROFL ROFL

mmaddog
*******

morphius
01-20-2004, 10:21 PM
You have it all wrong RNF....what he means by that is that you have good eyesight!!!

ROFL ROFL ROFL

mmaddog
*******
Damn! I talked too soon, ruined a perfect reply!

Morphius
Doh!

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 10:21 PM
You have it all wrong RNF....what he means by that is that you have good eyesight!!!

ROFL ROFL ROFL

mmaddog
*******

Good back peddling, to bad you were not a few posts sooner!!

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 10:21 PM
Guys, I'm not part of the crew yet. Heck I may never be, like Rain Man said, someone has to die first. I guess you could just hid me away in the back somewhere!!


You must have missed the mutiny.....

Mosbonian
01-20-2004, 10:25 PM
Good back peddling, to bad you were not a few posts sooner!!

Damn server...took too long to accept my post....

mmaddog
*******

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 10:27 PM
You must have missed the mutiny.....

Thats right, whoever lazarus is, he is a spy and has been strapped down to a bomb! Nice way to treat the old co-polit, hopefully I am cute enough to survive my mates!!

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 10:28 PM
Thats right, whoever lazarus is, he is a spy and has been strapped down to a bomb! Nice way to treat the old co-polit, hopefully I am cute enough to survive my mates!!


Actually Lazurus is/was the pilot, Morph is/was the copilot.

I think Morph is just power hungry.....

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 10:31 PM
I guess *sob*...I'll just have to go on and *sob*...and make*sob*....and make my own crew. *sob*

Oh one is the loneliest number...

:deevee:

Sign up honey, you can be on the reserve list with me!!

|Zach|
01-20-2004, 10:33 PM
Sign up honey, you can be on the reserve list with me!!

Man I need to be on the Planet with all the hot redheads.

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 10:33 PM
Damn server...took too long to accept my post....

mmaddog
*******

yeah, yeah, yeah

Jenson71
01-20-2004, 10:33 PM
Sign up honey, you can be on the reserve list with me!!

Woohoo. I could make my own flaming rocket, for us, if you know what I mean. ;)



I just had to jump on the op

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 10:35 PM
Man I need to be on the Planet with all the hot redheads.

There is plenty of room, come on in and join us!! Wait, aren't you on a plane already!?!

morphius
01-20-2004, 10:35 PM
Thats right, whoever lazarus is, he is a spy and has been strapped down to a bomb! Nice way to treat the old co-polit, hopefully I am cute enough to survive my mates!!
I'm expecting a lot more out of you then just looking good and even more then just some good pictures of you to use for the plane art. With JOhn and Fraz flying and Logical trying to deal with Denise I'm going to need a lot of help just to miss our allies.

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 10:36 PM
Woohoo. I could make my own flaming rocket, for us, if you know what I mean. ;)



I just had to jump on the op


ROFL Good try, but if you touch me, you will lose that hand!!

Mosbonian
01-20-2004, 10:36 PM
Sign up honey, you can be on the reserve list with me!!

You realize that flirting with him gets you a Statuatory offense....

mmaddog
********

|Zach|
01-20-2004, 10:36 PM
There is plenty of room, come on in and join us!! Wait, aren't you on a plane already!?!

Yes the PLANE OF BRONCO FANS.

I got jobbed.

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 10:36 PM
There is plenty of room, come on in and join us!! Wait, aren't you on a plane already!?!


Yeah, the donkey plane from hell. ROFL

morphius
01-20-2004, 10:36 PM
There is plenty of room, come on in and join us!! Wait, aren't you on a plane already!?!
He is just trying to get off his Donx/Seahawk led plane.

2bikemike
01-20-2004, 10:38 PM
Navigator aircraft 14 here. Where do I go to learn about the missions and what I have to do. Is there a thread for it somewhere. And where the hell is my Pilot and aircraft commander?

morphius
01-20-2004, 10:38 PM
Damn server...took too long to accept my post....

mmaddog
*******
Had to give you rep for trying to cover the Pilots ass.

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 10:38 PM
I'm expecting a lot more out of you then just looking good and even more then just some good pictures of you to use for the plane art. With JOhn and Fraz flying and Logical trying to deal with Denise I'm going to need a lot of help just to miss our allies.

Okay boss, I am at your command!! Besides, we can just wait a few minutes before taking off, most probably won't get 10,000 feet off the ground!!

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 10:39 PM
You realize that flirting with him gets you a Statuatory offense....

mmaddog
********

I do not flirt with minors :p read the post before yours!!

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 10:41 PM
Yes the PLANE OF BRONCO FANS.

I got jobbed.


Hehehe...I did read that, your crew sucks!!

Edit:

They only suck because of the team they like.

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 10:43 PM
Captain, Pilot Morphius, where is our thread!?!

Rausch
01-20-2004, 10:43 PM
I do not flirt with minors :p read the post before yours!!

How 'bout favors for your superiors?

:)

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 10:44 PM
How 'bout favors for your superiors?

:)

Bite my a$$, your not on my crew!!

|Zach|
01-20-2004, 10:45 PM
Hehehe...I did read that, your crew sucks!!

Edit:

They only suck because of the team they like.

I applied for a transfer to no avail.

Frazod
01-20-2004, 10:47 PM
Bite my a$$, your not on my crew!!

You could always request a transfer.... :titus:

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 10:50 PM
I applied for a transfer to no avail.

I'm sure you will make the best of it!! Just think of it as instead of being with Jeanna Jameson and Kobe Tai, you have the Wilson sister after weight loss and Raymond's wife from Everyone Loves Raymond. Not to great, but still manageable!!

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 10:52 PM
You could always request a transfer.... :titus:

UUmmm, this is taking a shot in the dark, but if I said "Bite my a$$, your not on my crew" wouldn't that mean if they wanted favors they would put a transfer in to my crew, not vise versa!?!

whoman69
01-20-2004, 10:53 PM
Aircraft # 10, this is the navigator. I have just opened our orders. We are to bomb some sh!thole called Networks Associates Collesium. Damn, who names these place. We are going to make the place into a black hole. Don't have to worry about colateral damage. The place is a haven for rats. Extra bounty if we can bring down the undead ghoul who owns the place. Bombadier, I will put you on target. Captain, just avoid the flak and we'll make the place look like the dark side of the moon.

morphius
01-20-2004, 10:54 PM
You could always request a transfer.... :titus: Man, you better not lay a hand on my fiesty co-pilot, I will take you out.

tommykat
01-20-2004, 10:54 PM
Aircraft #18

Pilot NaptownChief
Copilot tommykat
Bombardier PastorMikH
Navigator Mr. Christopher
Engineer B2chiefsfan
Radio Op. Adam
Tail Gunner Amnorix
Ball Turret Gunner KC Kings
Right Waist Gunner el borracho
Left Waist Gunner NewChief
Wake up you all! :banghead:

morphius
01-20-2004, 10:55 PM
Captain, Pilot Morphius, where is our thread!?!
it has been created...

KHinz57
01-20-2004, 10:55 PM
So I guess no body wanted KHinz57 on their planes, which is fine. I'll be one down below with my shotgun standing on hill dropping all of your planes, with Gunther Cunningham next to me, biatches!

Frazod
01-20-2004, 10:56 PM
Man, you better notlay a hand on my fiesty co-pilot, I will take you out.

Have you usurped your commanding officer, CO-PILOT?

Treacherous dog.... :shake:




ROFL

ROYC75
01-20-2004, 10:59 PM
So I guess no body wanted KHinz57 on their planes, which is fine. I'll be one down below with my shotgun standing on hill dropping all of your planes, with Gunther Cunningham next to me, biatches!


I got you strapped and loaded on the 1st rack of bombs to drop, you have a front row seat ! :)

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 10:59 PM
Man, you better not lay a hand on my fiesty co-pilot, I will take you out.

Thats right, and you better listen to my Pilot!!

Frazod
01-20-2004, 10:59 PM
UUmmm, this is taking a shot in the dark, but if I said "Bite my a$$, your not on my crew" wouldn't that mean if they wanted favors they would put a transfer in to my crew, not vise versa!?!

I have my own plane. You transfer to me.

I'll gladly trade you for Jamie..... :)

morphius
01-20-2004, 10:59 PM
Have you usurped your commanding officer, CO-PILOT?

Treacherous dog.... :shake:




ROFL
He was hanging out with the donx fans too much, it couldn't be helped.

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 10:59 PM
You could always request a transfer.... :titus:


All ready searching for my replacement huh?


Man it's a b!tch being expendable......

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 11:00 PM
Aircraft #18

Pilot NaptownChief
Copilot tommykat
Bombardier PastorMikH
Navigator Mr. Christopher
Engineer B2chiefsfan
Radio Op. Adam
Tail Gunner Amnorix
Ball Turret Gunner KC Kings
Right Waist Gunner el borracho
Left Waist Gunner NewChief
Wake up you all! :banghead:

I'm sorry TK, your crew is no fun at all!!

Ultra Peanut
01-20-2004, 11:01 PM
Talk about the man for the job! Aircraft #14 has the perfect bombardier - Clint in Wichita. He's been dropping bombs on this BB for a long time. :)I think he's the only competent member of the crew, but hell, one's better than none.

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 11:01 PM
I have my own plane. You transfer to me.

I'll gladly trade you for Jamie..... :)

I'm very happy were I am at! Hell, they ever got rid of someone just for me, couldn't ask for a better crew then that!!

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 11:02 PM
I have my own plane. You transfer to me.

I'll gladly trade you for Jamie..... :)


Oh great, not only am I losing my job, but I'm being traded to the mutineers.

ROYC75
01-20-2004, 11:02 PM
Aircraft #2

Pilot Phobia
Copilot siberian khatru
Bombardier ROYC75
Navigator оо
Engineer Saggysack
Radio Op. WisChief
Tail Gunner Mi_chief_fan
Ball Turret Gunner cheeeefs
Right Waist Gunner mizzou5
Left Waist Gunner ChiefJustice


Hot damn Phob might run us into the dirt with a Raider / Tarheel as navigator !

Sad part is ,I'm the first to see that front row seat !

morphius
01-20-2004, 11:03 PM
All ready searching for my replacement huh?


Man it's a b!tch being expendable......
Well, honestly, who would you pick? Damn hot redhead with brains that can handle a giant 2 year old, or a guy not strong enough to control the plane nor protect himself from his gay admirer's?

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 11:03 PM
I think he's the only competent member of the crew, but hell, one's better than none.

Does this mean I get to shoot Clint down!?! Please say yes, Please say yes!! Sorry to the rest of you on Clints crew, but Clint is going down!!

morphius
01-20-2004, 11:03 PM
I'm very happy were I am at! Hell, they ever got rid of someone just for me, couldn't ask for a better crew then that!!
That's my girl :D

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 11:04 PM
I'm very happy were I am at! Hell, they ever got rid of someone just for me, couldn't ask for a better crew then that!!


So I keep the job, but now I'm looked at in a despising manner as "what could have been". I'm f#cked regardless.....

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 11:06 PM
That's my girl :D
:thumb:

Rausch
01-20-2004, 11:06 PM
Please say yes, Please say yes!! Sorry to the rest of you on Clints crew, but Clint is going down!!

Take it to the chat room.... :shake:

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 11:07 PM
Well, honestly, who would you pick? Damn hot redhead with brains that can handle a giant 2 year old, or a guy not strong enough to control the plane nor protect himself from his gay admirer's?


Always go the underdog.


FWIW the gay stalker only stalked then went away. I think I did a damn fine job of protecting myself (except from all the jokes you guys throw around).

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 11:07 PM
So I keep the job, but now I'm looked at in a despising as "what could have been". I'm f#cked regardless.....

I'm sorry, I know it hard being compared to me!!

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 11:08 PM
Take it to the chat room.... :shake:

What?

Oh, hell, I get it. Rausch go drink some more and pass out like always!!

Frazod
01-20-2004, 11:08 PM
All ready searching for my replacement huh?


Man it's a b!tch being expendable......

Well, it appears you're safe. She has cast her lot with the mutinous Morph.

I guess you can make sandwiches or something.... :rolleyes:

I'll bet you wish you had more posts now, don't you? :D

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 11:10 PM
I'm sorry, I know it hard being compared to me!!


Not your fault.

Appearntly it is mine for not having a rack.....

Garcia Bronco
01-20-2004, 11:10 PM
Sorry Garcia....you actually have a "missing" defense system...

mmaddog
********


That's your squad

Rausch
01-20-2004, 11:10 PM
What?

Mosbonian
01-20-2004, 11:12 PM
Had to give you rep for trying to cover the Pilots ass.

A good soldier always covers the Squad leaders back!!!

mmaddog
*******

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 11:12 PM
Rausch

I get it, but you still suck!

Rausch
01-20-2004, 11:12 PM
What?

Oh, hell, I get it. Rausch go drink some more and pass out like always!!

You don't know what you're talking about...









.....I usually just ramble on talking sensless bull$#it, never really passing out.......

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 11:12 PM
Well, it appears you're safe. She has cast her lot with the mutinous Morph.

I guess you can make sandwiches or something.... :rolleyes:

I'll bet you wish you had more posts now, don't you? :D


What, and miss out on the the wild and whacky adventures that are sure to happen with you at the helm? Not a chance.

I'm looking at this as a POTF opportunity. My time to learn from an old veteran before one day taking the controls.

Rausch
01-20-2004, 11:13 PM
Rausch

I get it, but you still suck!

She said....

Ultra Peanut
01-20-2004, 11:15 PM
So I guess no body wanted KHinz57 on their planes, which is fine. I'll be one down below with my shotgun standing on hill dropping all of your planes, with Gunther Cunningham next to me, biatches!You're with the crew of the "KHinz57 is a Stinky Poophead," subtitle "Flying Chupacabras," in spirit.

Mosbonian
01-20-2004, 11:16 PM
I'm sorry, I know it hard being compared to me!!

It's a waste of time being compared to you....you would win hands down, even with blind judges!!!

mmaddog
*********

Frazod
01-20-2004, 11:18 PM
What, and miss out on the the wild and whacky adventures that are sure to happen with you at the helm? Not a chance.

I'm looking at this as a POTF opportunity. My time to learn from an old veteran before one day taking the controls.

In other words, you're waiting for me to get whacked. Nice.

BASTARD! :cuss:




ROFL

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 11:19 PM
It's a waste of time being compared to you....you would win hands down, even with blind judges!!!

mmaddog
*********

Awww, how sweet, but your only saying that because he doesn't have a rack :p

RedNFeisty
01-20-2004, 11:20 PM
In other words, you're waiting for me to get whacked. Nice.

BASTARD! :cuss:




ROFL

At least he is honest.

KCWolfman
01-20-2004, 11:23 PM
Why is it that a kraut gets to pilot our #1 flying fortress and his co-pilot who normally makes his living as an airplane engineer (aren't most good engineers German?) doesn't get to engineer?


I say we ask them who won the 1943 World Series, these guys may be spies.

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 11:23 PM
In other words, you're waiting for me to get whacked. Nice.

BASTARD! :cuss:




ROFL


Well that is certainly one way of looking at it. :)

KCWolfman
01-20-2004, 11:23 PM
In other words, you're waiting for me to get whacked. Nice.

BASTARD! :cuss:




ROFL
repworthy

Mosbonian
01-20-2004, 11:24 PM
Awww, how sweet, but your only saying that because he doesn't have a rack :p

And your point is......?????

Hey, I'm a man...and a "mmaddog" at that.....

You see I bring other skills with me too....should we find it necessary to do any "behind the lines" espionage I have an excellent reputation at being inconspicuous....I blend in well.....

mmaddog
*********

JOhn
01-20-2004, 11:24 PM
Why is it that a kraut gets to pilot our #1 a flying fortress and his co-pilot who normally makes his living as an airplane engineer (aren't most good engineers German?) doesn't get to engineer?


I say we ask them who won the 1943 World Series, these guys may be spies.
Things that make you go :hmmm:

Raiderhater
01-20-2004, 11:26 PM
And your point is......?????

Hey, I'm a man...and a "mmaddog" at that.....

You see I bring other skills with me too....should we find it necessary to do any "behind the lines" espionage I have an excellent reputation at being inconspicuous....I blend in well.....

mmaddog
*********



I think that she would probably prefer that you "stick out".

Frazod
01-20-2004, 11:28 PM
Well that is certainly one way of looking at it. :)

F#cking weasel..... nlm

Jenny Gump
01-20-2004, 11:31 PM
Whaddya gotta do to get on a crew around here?

Rausch
01-20-2004, 11:32 PM
Why is it that a kraut gets to pilot our #1 flying fortress ....

Because we have more balls than brains...


And Europe is full of beer and lose women.....who WOULDN'T want to sign up?

:D

Mosbonian
01-20-2004, 11:32 PM
I think that she would probably prefer that you "stick out".

You missed the part about "blend in" well.....

mmaddog
*************

JOhn
01-20-2004, 11:33 PM
Oh man...my plane #12 is piloted and co-piloted by Bronco fans and the 3rd in charge is a Seahawks fan, are you kidding me? Engineer ZachKC requesting transfer, over.
We can always use an extra on my plane. :D

JOhn
01-20-2004, 11:33 PM
SWEET! I'm copilot to Tim's pilot. This will be one hellavu ride. :D
Or a very scary ride. :eek: