View Full Version : A scout on Zack Greinke
From Peter Gammons news and notes column yesterday... just a small blurb but what the hey, any praise this team can get is worth posting. :D
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/gammons/story?id=1861867
From one scout: "One of my favorite pitchers to watch is Zack Greinke. He is Greg Maddux. He commands his fastball in every quadrant of the strike zone, has two different curveballs and pitches to whatever the situation. He is really good."
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KingPriest2
08-25-2004, 12:24 PM
Hopefully he stays healthy
chief4life
09-06-2004, 08:04 AM
my new pic
KingPriest2
09-22-2009, 09:39 PM
interesting
DeezNutz
09-22-2009, 09:42 PM
He's Maddux....with much better stuff.
pr_capone
09-22-2009, 10:05 PM
He's Maddux....with much better stuff.
Lets wait another... say, oh... 5-10 years before we start comparing him to one of the greatest pitchers of all time.
Bowser
09-22-2009, 10:07 PM
Wow. Obscure thread bump winner of the week.
Dante84
09-22-2009, 10:13 PM
my new pic
Yes.
DeezNutz
09-22-2009, 10:24 PM
Lets wait another... say, oh... 5-10 years before we start comparing him to one of the greatest pitchers of all time.
No need to.
His stuff is better. This isn't even debatable. He commands 4 pitches and can run a fastball up to 97.
This doesn't mean that Greinke's better or will be a HOFer.
But on stuff and stuff alone, there is no comparison between the two; Greinke is far more gifted.
Sure-Oz
09-22-2009, 10:30 PM
Greinke will finish with a better career as long as he's healthy...
SC is now tabbing his as a cy young front runner and kruky is saying he's better than both cc and king felix
SC is now tabbing his as a cy young front runner and kruky is saying he's better than both cc and king felix
Wow Kruk, that's quite a leap. Way to go out on a limb. Idiot.
SCTrojan
09-23-2009, 12:13 AM
No need to.
His stuff is better. This isn't even debatable. He commands 4 pitches and can run a fastball up to 97.
This doesn't mean that Greinke's better or will be a HOFer.
But on stuff and stuff alone, there is no comparison between the two; Greinke is far more gifted.
Completely agree. Zack's stuff is downright filthy. Maddux had unbelievable command. Maddux was nearly untouchable for the better part of 10 years. But I'd always kind of wonder how in the world he was doing it. With Zack, when he's been at his peak at the beginning of the season and here recently, there's no question.
Demonpenz
09-23-2009, 08:36 AM
I haven't seen grienke get the call for a ball that is a foot outside like maddux did
CoMoChief
09-23-2009, 08:42 AM
So how long before he's traded to the east coast or LAA?
Demonpenz
09-23-2009, 08:50 AM
the word is we have been shopping around grienke because by time we are good he will be too old to do any good
Molitoth
09-23-2009, 09:06 AM
the word is we have been shopping around grienke because by time we are good he will be too old to do any good
haha.
Molitoth
09-23-2009, 09:07 AM
Imagine if we still had Dye, Beltran, Ibanez, and numerous other players that have gone on to other teams to kick ass. We are just the big name team's farm club.
Demonpenz
09-23-2009, 09:09 AM
Imagine if we still had Dye, Beltran, Ibanez, and numerous other players that have gone on to other teams to kick ass. We are just the big name team's farm club.
Seattles a big name team?
Demonpenz
09-23-2009, 09:09 AM
oakland's a big name team?
Of all the Greinke related threads.....
wild1
09-23-2009, 09:11 AM
I saw the Baseball Tonight highlight package on him last night. I don't know a lot about pitching or baseball in general, but I do know that he was making some great hitters look stupid. Not just getting them out, making them look stupid.
KCWolfman
09-23-2009, 09:18 AM
Of all the great players that started in KC, I think the Royals have the best chance of keeping Greinke. I think he would mentally fall apart in a town like NY with the constant introspection of his every movement. I think he knows this too. The team stood by him when he went through his version of a mental breakdown and I am confident he knows he couldn't get away with that behavior elsewhere.
Demonpenz
09-23-2009, 09:20 AM
grienke is locked up for awhile anyways maybe 4 years?
Spicy McHaggis
09-23-2009, 09:25 AM
So how long before he's traded to the east coast or LAA?
Shut your dirty mouth and let me dream.
beer bacon
09-23-2009, 11:54 AM
grienke is locked up for awhile anyways maybe 4 years?
Yeah, I think he did a five year contract extension before this season.
beer bacon
09-23-2009, 11:55 AM
Greinke isn't going to be traded you bunch of idiots.
Sure-Oz
09-23-2009, 11:55 AM
Of all the great players that started in KC, I think the Royals have the best chance of keeping Greinke. I think he would mentally fall apart in a town like NY with the constant introspection of his every movement. I think he knows this too. The team stood by him when he went through his version of a mental breakdown and I am confident he knows he couldn't get away with that behavior elsewhere.
If you get a talent like him, any team would do whatever they can to get him right, i think it's a non issue anyway now
Sure-Oz
09-23-2009, 11:56 AM
Greinke isn't going to be traded you bunch of idiots.
I am pretty certain that if nunez didn't snag jacobs, zack was next
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