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Taco John
09-09-2004, 08:55 AM
I'm curious what the board thinks about mods changing thread titles to reflect their own agendas.

It's happening in the politics forum, and it's bound to leak it's way over here if gone unchecked. Is this an acceptable practice? Should someone be sitting on Jim's shoulder making sure that his thread titles are positive enough?

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan
09-09-2004, 08:57 AM
There's already a thread about this on the DC forum.

This is simply Taco wanting more attention.

Nothing to see here . . . move along.

Hoover
09-09-2004, 08:58 AM
Its wrong and should be stopped ASAP

Ultra Peanut
09-09-2004, 08:58 AM
Guess I should break this out again:

<img src="http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=31329&stc=1" style="width: 676px; height: 361px; border: 0" alt="" />

Saulbadguy
09-09-2004, 08:58 AM
Its immature and stupid, but whatever. I don't care.

Gaz
09-09-2004, 08:59 AM
How about moving this to the DC forum?

xoxo~
Gaz
Avoids the other forum for a reason.

Ultra Peanut
09-09-2004, 08:59 AM
Oh, and:

BigRedChief
09-09-2004, 09:00 AM
Changing thread titles based on a mods personal political leanings is wrong. No if's and or buts. There can be no justification for this except to humor the mod.

Taco John
09-09-2004, 09:01 AM
There's already a thread about this on the DC forum.

This is simply Taco wanting more attention.

Nothing to see here . . . move along.



Yes, and my thread title got changed on it, and the issue isn't being addressed. It's a legitimate issue whether you agree or not. If the board policy is that it's ok for Mods to run roughshod over the community by changing their thread titles at political whimsy, than I'm ok with that. I just want it made clear so that we all know how things are done.

HC_Chief
09-09-2004, 09:02 AM
Quit whining, pussy.

Taco John
09-09-2004, 09:02 AM
How about moving this to the DC forum?

xoxo~
Gaz
Avoids the other forum for a reason.




This isn't a politics only topic. It's a board policy topic.

Ultra Peanut
09-09-2004, 09:03 AM
Looks like Skip's interested in you, Teej:

Dartgod
09-09-2004, 09:10 AM
In a word, NO.

Rain Man
09-09-2004, 09:13 AM
Yep, shouldn't be done. It's poor form.

Skip Towne
09-09-2004, 09:23 AM
All mods should be publicly executed.

Taco John
09-09-2004, 09:23 AM
Bah. I was changing thread titles over here before the politics forum existed.


My thread title here got changed, so I want to clarify...

Actually, I have no problem with changing thread titles over humor. It's the political sense that bothers me, and not only in political topics. My example here is that Jim is known for being a pessimist. Should his thread titles regarding the Chiefs be changed to reflect any mod's take on the situation, trumping Jim's take?

If people think that's cool, then I'm cool with that. I can roll with the punches if that's the way it goes.

Brock
09-09-2004, 09:25 AM
"Should a Chiefs fan give a shit what a Broncos fan thinks about his forum?"

BigRedChief
09-09-2004, 09:31 AM
"Should a Chiefs fan give a shit what a Broncos fan thinks about his forum?"
I repeat...Changing thread titles based on a mods personal political leanings is wrong. No if's and or buts. There can be no justification for this except to humor the mod.


Is myself, Dartgod and Rainman donkey fans? We have all voiced reservations about this issue.

I agree TJ is an asshol@ and myself and him have had very public disagreements but this is a board issue. Does the planet sanction and or authorize it's mods playing with the communities posts for fun and humor at the expense of the poster?

Taco John
09-09-2004, 09:33 AM
I repeat, fun and humor, I'm ok with.

Changing them because they don't reflect your political outlook, I'm personally am not, but can roll with if that is what people want... With the caveat that Meme should be added as a mod for balance in the politics forum.

Ultra Peanut
09-09-2004, 09:34 AM
I will call down a mighty reckoning on you! I am a demon god of conquest!

King_Chief_Fan
09-09-2004, 09:34 AM
I repeat, fun and humor, I'm ok with.

Changing them because they don't reflect your political outlook, I'm personally am not, but can roll with if that is what people want... With the caveat that Meme should be added as a mod for balance in the politics forum.

We don't allow Raider fans to be moderators of anything on Chiefsplanet

Brock
09-09-2004, 09:34 AM
I repeat...

Why repeat it? It wasn't interesting the first time.

BigMeatballDave
09-09-2004, 09:34 AM
I know all there is to know, about the crying game
I've had my share of the crying game
First there are kisses
Then there are sighs
And then before you know where you are, you're saying goodbye

One day soon, I'm gonna tell the moon, about the crying game
And if he knows, maybe he'll explain
Why there are heartaches (Heartaches)
Why there are tears (So sad)
And what to do, to stop feeling blue, when love disappears

First there are kisses (Kisses)
Then there are sighs (So sad)
And then before, you know where you are, you're saying goodbye

Don't want no more, of the crying game (Don't want no more)
Don't want no more, of the crying game (Don't want no more)
Don't want no more, of the crying game (Don't want no more)
Don't want no more, of the crying game
Aaahhh

Brock
09-09-2004, 09:36 AM
I repeat, fun and humor, I'm ok with.

Changing them because they don't reflect your political outlook, I'm personally am not, but can roll with if that is what people want... With the caveat that Meme should be added as a mod for balance in the politics forum.

Or you could go get your own board to run how you see fit.

|Zach|
09-09-2004, 09:36 AM
I wish that kind of thing didn't happen.

KCFalcon59
09-09-2004, 09:37 AM
This is much ado about nothing. The 2 threads titles in question deserved to be changed given that the authors were proven to have lied and they made post after incessant post denying or refusing to admit they lied even with insurmountable evidence.

I don't see this as an ongoing problem. Now if it does. Then lets put it under a microscope.

As for TJ. Go home and quit your crying. Broncos

Taco John
09-09-2004, 09:38 AM
Or you could go get your own board to run how you see fit.


I do. But I don't like to talk politics on my board because I don't want political disagreements to affect the way my decisions are perceived. So I talk politics over here.

I'm just a poster over here, trying to find out what mod abuses are acceptable and not.

|Zach|
09-09-2004, 09:41 AM
I have idea what thread(s) are being referred to and by what user but I have found its generally more gun with threads that are deemed crazy to just stay up and wallow in their own stupidity.

It seems things have a way of taking care of themselves without mod intervention.

Taco John
09-09-2004, 09:41 AM
This is much ado about nothing. The 2 threads titles in question deserved to be changed given that the authors were proven to have lied and they made post after incessant post denying or refusing to admit they lied even with insurmountable evidence.




I can point to 50 threads that could be proven to be partisain lies in the last week. Problem is, there is no balance in moderation. There are extreme right wing activist mods, but no representation on the left.

It doesn't bother me that people don't like that I'm speaking up about it.

Raiderhater
09-09-2004, 09:42 AM
I repeat...Changing thread titles based on a mods personal political leanings is wrong. No if's and or buts. There can be no justification for this except to humor the mod.


Is myself, Dartgod and Rainman donkey fans? We have all voiced reservations about this issue.

I agree TJ is an asshol@ and myself and him have had very public disagreements but this is a board issue. Does the planet sanction and or authorize it's mods playing with the communities posts for fun and humor at the expense of the poster?


Yes. It is a long standing tradition here.

BigRedChief
09-09-2004, 09:42 AM
Why repeat it? It wasn't interesting the first time.

It's an opinion. not an op-ed piece. I will try to enlighten your day with witty posts in the future.

Raiderhater
09-09-2004, 09:42 AM
Why repeat it? It wasn't interesting the first time.


ROFL

BigRedChief
09-09-2004, 09:44 AM
Yes. It is a long standing tradition here.

Okay as long as it's done all the time thats cool. I'm a newbie here so I'll go with the flow. Do as the romans do and a whole bunch of other bad analogy's...STFU

Saulbadguy
09-09-2004, 09:46 AM
Okay as long as it's done all the time thats cool. I'm a newbie here so I'll go with the flow. Do as the romans do and a whole bunch of other bad analogy's...STFU
You're only one month younger than I, thats no excuse. It doesn't take long to figure this place out. :D

headsnap
09-09-2004, 09:46 AM
and Taco says I'm whiny. :shake:

HC_Chief
09-09-2004, 09:49 AM
If you don't like it Teej, you can always just PISS OFF to your own little homer board.

Whiney donkey pussy :p

Taco John
09-09-2004, 09:55 AM
I'm willing to accept it. I just am looking for a determination of what is and isn't acceptable with this regard.

Mile High Mania
09-09-2004, 10:09 AM
This can all be avoided by simply not visiting a political area on a sports message board.

Sydd
09-09-2004, 10:19 AM
This can all be avoided by simply not visiting a political area on a sports message board.


:thumb:

Taco John
09-09-2004, 10:23 AM
I can think of other ways it could be avoided that don't call for non-participation.

Mr. Laz
09-09-2004, 10:23 AM
This is much ado about nothing. The 2 threads titles in question deserved to be changed given that the authors were proven to have lied and they made post after incessant post denying or refusing to admit they lied even with insurmountable evidence.

it's still wrong ... mods shouldn't change chit just because they feel like it.

LVNHACK
09-09-2004, 10:25 AM
If you're not happy here go back to your BB..........And take your girls mememe,JAZ & frankie with ya......

Mr. Laz
09-09-2004, 10:25 AM
This can all be avoided by simply not visiting a political area on a sports message board.

actually a thread title was changed in the football part of the forum too


a mod didn't like the author and decided to fug with them

|Zach|
09-09-2004, 10:26 AM
it's still wrong ... mods shouldn't change chit just because they feel like it.
Bingo.

David.
09-09-2004, 10:28 AM
yeah, those bastard mods *shakes fist at sky*

Mile High Mania
09-09-2004, 10:30 AM
So ... I guess folks should stop messing with JGoChiefsBret...

38yrsfan
09-09-2004, 10:37 AM
I concur ... what was the question?

Mark M
09-09-2004, 10:38 AM
So ... I guess folks should stop messing with JGoChiefsBret...

That depends ... is he a liberal or a conservative?

MM
~~;)

KCFalcon59
09-09-2004, 11:02 AM
it's still wrong ... mods shouldn't change chit just because they feel like it.

I don't disagree....I'm just not ready to concede it as a problem like tj is whining about. Now if it continues........then it is an issue.

Mr. Laz
09-09-2004, 11:04 AM
I don't disagree....I'm just not ready to concede it as a problem like tj is whining about. Now if it continues........then it is an issue.

understood ... i'm not freaked out about it either




just don't think it's a good thing

David.
09-09-2004, 11:13 AM
Can we get some specific examples of what's going on?

I think one of them was something about changing denise's thread from something about Paul Hamm to something about hating america or something. n stuff.

Kylo Ren
09-09-2004, 11:16 AM
I'm curious what the board thinks about mods changing thread titles to reflect their own agendas.

It's happening in the politics forum, and it's bound to leak it's way over here if gone unchecked. Is this an acceptable practice? Should someone be sitting on Jim's shoulder making sure that his thread titles are positive enough? For once, I agree with you Taco. They shouldn't alter threads, posts, avatars or user names. It's low down and dirty. But, we are almost powerless against them. I don't think anyone's posts, threads, avatars or user names should be altered in any way by the mods, even people I detest, like memyselfi and her ilk. I would gladly and wholeheartedly stand up with the liberals on this issue.

Brock
09-09-2004, 11:17 AM
For once, I agree with you. They shouldn't alter threads, posts, avatars or user names.

Or your rep, either.

Mark M
09-09-2004, 11:17 AM
For once, I agree with you. They shouldn't alter threads, posts, avatars or user names. It's low down and dirty. But, we are almost powerless against them.

Actually, in some cases it's pretty damned funny. Hell, my name was "Zebco" for about a month, and I didn't see any harm ...

not that I want it changed again or anything.

MM
~~:shake: :)

htismaqe
09-09-2004, 11:29 AM
Can we get some specific examples of what's going on?

I second that.

I don't often visit the DC forum.

If you think it's a problem, let us know what was done.

FYI, I don't think mods should be editing posts/threads without a good reason.

Raiderhater
09-09-2004, 11:39 AM
I think one of them was something about changing denise's thread from something about Paul Hamm to something about hating america or something. n stuff.


Let's be a little bit more accurate about that thread. Denise started a thread about Paul Hamm, added a political slant to the discussion that displayed her "everything is Bush's fault" belief. Phil added to the title that "it's all Bushies fault" and moved it to the DC forum.

As to the other issues that brought this on, a couple of members posted false information, and then refused to concede (or completely concede) when faced with the truth. So someone changed the titles of the threads to give them a more accurate description.

Dartgod
09-09-2004, 11:48 AM
Actually, in some cases it's pretty damned funny. Hell, my name was "Zebco" for about a month, and I didn't see any harm ...

not that I want it changed again or anything.

MM
~~:shake: :)
I missed that. Curious what the story was behind it?

Mark M
09-09-2004, 11:51 AM
I missed that. Curious what the story was behind it?

Mark M = Skinny
Zebco rods = Skinny
Phobia = Moderator who is occassionally funny and changes user names

MM
~~:D

Logical
09-09-2004, 12:08 PM
Never mind I misunderstood why you named me Tj.

BigRedChief
09-09-2004, 01:14 PM
Pretty much.

That clears that up. Just as long as I can smite you with the almighty power of Chiefs nation if you fuk with football threads....:p

memyselfI
09-09-2004, 03:59 PM
Let's be a little bit more accurate about that thread. Denise started a thread about Paul Hamm, added a political slant to the discussion that displayed her "everything is Bush's fault" belief. Phil added to the title that "it's all Bushies fault" and moved it to the DC forum.

As to the other issues that brought this on, a couple of members posted false information, and then refused to concede (or completely concede) when faced with the truth. So someone changed the titles of the threads to give them a more accurate description.


Actually the 'political slant' was a QUESTION and the opinion that if the answer to the question was "yes" then it was UNFAIR to Hamm...

the edit/addition in the topic header said something completely different.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...light=paul+hamm

David.
09-09-2004, 04:02 PM
Let's be a little bit more accurate about that thread. Denise started a thread about Paul Hamm, added a political slant to the discussion that displayed her "everything is Bush's fault" belief. Phil added to the title that "it's all Bushies fault" and moved it to the DC forum.

As to the other issues that brought this on, a couple of members posted false information, and then refused to concede (or completely concede) when faced with the truth. So someone changed the titles of the threads to give them a more accurate description.

I wasn't positive, I had caught part of it. I try to avoid DC like the plague.

Raiderhater
09-09-2004, 04:08 PM
Actually the 'political slant' was a QUESTION and the opinion that if the answer to the question was "yes" then it was UNFAIR to Hamm...

the edit/addition in the topic header said something completely different.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...light=paul+hamm


The question was still a political one, and we all know what perception you intended with it. This was eloquently noted in the revised topic header.

Now go away.

Phobia
09-09-2004, 05:28 PM
Here's is my take on the issue.

As long as a username/avatar/thread title is being modified with good natured intentions, it is permissable. When the user objects or asks to be restored, it should be done as quickly as possible. When a mod starts modifying those things to settle a score or because they dislike the individual, it becomes a problem and they should either offer their resignation or risk being "fired".

Regarding political thread titles being changed.... it seems as though the major beef is that it appears to be one-sided; conservative mods changing only liberal threads. I'd have to disagree with that. I know for a fact that at least one of Ringleader's thread titles was changed recently at the request of a liberal user. So, there's your balance.

Regarding a liberal moderator in D.C. - that was actually my idea. I asked that the people in D.C. hold mod elections for liberal, conservative, and even Libertarian if they so desired. Nobody told me who won, so I've appointed nobody. I land in that forum about once a week, so I can't follow everything.

I hope this answers all the questions in this thread and I hope everybody is satisfied.

Katipan
09-09-2004, 05:39 PM
All this angst over thread titles?

Like the people here don't read every single freaking thread anyways?

Jenson71
09-09-2004, 05:43 PM
My feeling is that what makes the management here at chiefsplanet top-notch is they are basically invisible. If it's funny, I'm all for it. If it's not - thumbs down.

Jenson71
09-09-2004, 05:45 PM
Example - Phobia putting "It's Bush's fault!"

Thumbs up.

teedubya
09-09-2004, 05:46 PM
I havent noticed thread titles being changed, but if that is the case, that is whack ill shit. For hilariousity's sake, ok. In serious threads, no.

Taco John
09-09-2004, 05:46 PM
Here's is my take on the issue.

As long as a username/avatar/thread title is being modified with good natured intentions, it is permissable. When the user objects or asks to be restored, it should be done as quickly as possible. When a mod starts modifying those things to settle a score or because they dislike the individual, it becomes a problem and they should either offer their resignation or risk being "fired".

Regarding political thread titles being changed.... it seems as though the major beef is that it appears to be one-sided; conservative mods changing only liberal threads. I'd have to disagree with that. I know for a fact that at least one of Ringleader's thread titles was changed recently at the request of a liberal user. So, there's your balance.

Regarding a liberal moderator in D.C. - that was actually my idea. I asked that the people in D.C. hold mod elections for liberal, conservative, and even Libertarian if they so desired. Nobody told me who won, so I've appointed nobody. I land in that forum about once a week, so I can't follow everything.

I hope this answers all the questions in this thread and I hope everybody is satisfied.



Good enough for me. I spoke up because there was uncertainty in the air about it, and I wanted to get it cleared. For me, it is now cleared.

tk13
09-09-2004, 05:53 PM
Here, instead of bitching and moaning for 12 years, let's make this simple.

All political threads = no touchy touchy

Personally I could care less... I've had stuff of mine changed and I can go with the flow.... but there are too many people who get their shorts in a wad on both sides of the scale when it comes to people screwing with them politically, so don't do it...

On the other hand, the board is what the board is. Just like this is a Chiefs board where Bronco and Raider fans get mocked and made fun of, this is also a place that is largely conservative in nature. Political parties are like sports teams, if you don't agree with the team, you're going to get smack talk and mockery coming your way. This board slides to the right, there's nothing wrong with that, but you have to know that if you veer from the right on a political topic, there will be times where you will be in a vocal minority. Just like a Bronco fan coming over here to talk football... you can be a non-conservative talking politics... but you're not always gonna get the fair shake of the stick.

That said, politics is such a serious, heated thing... nobody can take a joke so it's pointless to go through all this garbage. It just sounds like a big unneeded hassle...

Dave Lane
09-09-2004, 06:22 PM
I'm curious what the board thinks about mods changing thread titles to reflect their own agendas.

No effin way...


It's happening in the politics forum, and it's bound to leak it's way over here if gone unchecked. Is this an acceptable practice? Should someone be sitting on Jim's shoulder making sure that his thread titles are positive enough?

Let Jim be glum. He will get better as the season goes on.

Dave