AP Top 25

[Ultra Peanut]

We are RANKED, baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Associated Press Top 25
No. School Record Points Prev
1 Southern California 2-0 1611 1
2 Oklahoma 2-0 1552 2
3 Georgia 2-0 1478 3
4 Miami (FL) 1-0 1398 5
5 LSU 2-0 1344 6
6 Texas 2-0 1311 7
7 West Virginia 2-0 1087 10
8 Florida State 0-1 1058 4
9 Ohio State 2-0 1030 9
10 California 2-0 969 12
11 Florida 1-0 955 11
12 Virginia 2-0 812 15
13 Tennessee 1-0 798 14
14 Auburn 2-0 739 18
15 Utah 2-0 699 17
16 Iowa 2-0 665 16
17 Michigan 1-1 577 8
18 Purdue 2-0 557 25
19 Fresno State 2-0 454 _
20 Wisconsin 2-0 404 21
21 Maryland 2-0 392 23
22 Minnesota 2-0 340 22
23 Boise State 2-0 201 _
24 Louisville 2-0 153 _
25 Memphis 2-0 86 _
Others Receiving Votes: Kansas St. 51, Oklahoma St. 47, Georgia Tech 46, N.C. State 44, Missouri 41, Notre Dame 38, Southern Miss. 37, Troy 31, Colorado 27, Clemson 23, Alabama 20, TCU 20, Virginia Tech 13, Boston College 8, Arkansas 5, Stanford 4.

[ChiefsCountry]

Wow, K-State is 26 and Missouri is 30.

[Raiderhater]

Shit! All the way out of the top 25? That is a bit harsh...

[Valiant]

Shit! All the way out of the top 25? That is a bit harsh...


no its not..both schools got abused like dumb bitches...

[Valiant]

and sproles and smiths heisman chances should be gone now also...

now wheres the salt for your wounds...

[Skip Towne]

Bah - who has Memphis played?

[Raiderhater]

no its not..both schools got abused like dumb bitches...


Bah! We were sitting at like 12 if I remember correctly. And FSu vaults up to 19? That is harsh.

[Skip Towne]

Shit! All the way out of the top 25? That is a bit harsh...
So was that ass whippin they absorbed.

[Phobia]

How in the hell did K State manage any votes at all?

[Raiderhater]

and sproles and smiths heisman chances should be gone now also...

now wheres the salt for your wounds...


One loss and Sproles' chances are gone? Give me a break.


Don't forget last year we lost three games early and went on to whip OU's ass in the Big 12 Championship Game. You are a bit early on your prediction....

[Ultra Peanut]

Bah! We were sitting at like 12 if I remember correctly. And FSu vaults up to 19? That is harsh.Fresno State's gone on the road and straight-up handled two BCS teams already. #19 is very much deserved, IMHO, though Washington was pretty much expecting an up-and-down season.

[Phobia]

One loss and Sproles' chances are gone? Give me a break.


Yes. Absolutely. Did he even average 1 yard per carry? That's enough to knock you out of the Heisman race. He'll need to have a 2000 yard season to fight back into the race.

[Raiderhater]

How in the hell did K State manage any votes at all?


Because Fresno St is a good team.

[Raiderhater]

Fresno State's gone on the road and straight-up handled two BCS teams already. #19 is very much deserved, IMHO, though Washington was pretty much expecting an up-and-down season.


I did not mean to talk down about FSU. I have respect for the program. I knew when we scheduled them that they were not one of our typical cupcake teams.

[Raiderhater]

Yes. Absolutely. Did he even average 1 yard per carry? That's enough to knock you out of the Heisman race. He'll need to have a 2000 yard season to fight back into the race.


There is a lot of season to go yet. To consider him through because of one game is jumping the gun just a bit.

[Skip Towne]

Yes. Absolutely. Did he even average 1 yard per carry? That's enough to knock you out of the Heisman race. He'll need to have a 2000 yard season to fight back into the race.
36 yards on 12 carries. Then they took him out because they were way behind and the midget can't catch. And he's 5'5". And he plays in Manhattan. No Heisman for you.

[Phobia]

There is a lot of season to go yet. To consider him through because of one game is jumping the gun just a bit.

We're talking about Heisman voting, not NFL MVP. One game in which he contributed nothing in a blowout loss IS enough for the Athletic Club. Stick a fork in him.

[Valiant]

One loss and Sproles' chances are gone? Give me a break.


Don't forget last year we lost three games early and went on to whip OU's ass in the Big 12 Championship Game. You are a bit early on your prediction....


no sproles looking like total shit to a second teir team...

[Valiant]

Because Fresno St is a good team.


good team because they beat your ass...hell no..they will not make the bcs series...

[Valiant]

Fresno State's gone on the road and straight-up handled two BCS teams already. #19 is very much deserved, IMHO, though Washington was pretty much expecting an up-and-down season.


the rest of their schedule is cream puffs..even worse then kstates schedule...

[Valiant]

36 yards on 12 carries. Then they took him out because they were way behind and the midget can't catch. And he's 5'5". And he plays in Manhattan. No Heisman for you.


gosh damn...i am agreeing with skip...i must be in hell...

[Ultra Peanut]

they will not make the bcs series...Wow, what a shocking prediction. A team that's not part of one of the cartel conferences won't be in the BCS. That obviously means they suck. After all, if you don't go undefeated (and even when you do go undefeated), you're not worthy.

Did a squirrel eat away your brains or are you that dumb naturally?

[Skip Towne]

Wow, what a shocking prediction. A team that's not part of one of the cartel conferences won't be in the BCS. That obviously means they suck. After all, if you don't go undefeated (and even when you do go undefeated), you're not worthy.

Did a squirrel eat away your brains or are you that dumb naturally?
Hahahahahahahahaha Rep

[Ultra Peanut]

the rest of their schedule is cream puffs..even worse then kstates schedule...Here are some of Mizzou's wins last year:

Illinois (1-11)
Ball State (4-8)
Eastern Illinois (I-AA)
Middle Tennessee St. (4-8)
Texas A&M (4-8)
Iowa State (2-10)

The only teams Mizzou beat in 2003 that had a winning record were Texas Tech and Nebraska.

[Ultra Peanut]

And Kansas:

Wyoming (4-8)
Jacksonville St. (I-AA)
Baylor (3-9)
Iowa State (2-10)

The only teams Kansas defeated in 2003 with non-losing records were UNLV (6-6) and Mizzou (8-5).

But Kansas wasn't anywhere near the Top 25, so I guess they're not that pertinent.

By the way, Fresno State plays at Boise State on October 23rd, so it's not exactly easy rolling from here on out for them.

[Valiant]

Wow, what a shocking prediction. A team that's not part of one of the cartel conferences won't be in the BCS. That obviously means they suck. After all, if you don't go undefeated (and even when you do go undefeated), you're not worthy.

Did a squirrel eat away your brains or are you that dumb naturally?


uh oh, another internet tough guy... just do us a favor... keep your lil 16yr old mouth shut and go back to watching starwars porn gochiefs..

if you want to call FSU a competent team then you have to back up their schedule... they play more sissy ass teams, quite like your self then they do the teams that will even register on the BCS rankings... win or lose you get nothing by playing FSU, well unless you get punked on live tv by a glorified community college...

[Valiant]

see there you go ASSuming i give a **** about most big 12 football teams... i enjoy the fact that you fukwads think your schools are worth a damn... that is why the majority of your schools schedule shitwad worth of schools to even give them a record... But what do you all go out and do...lose to a shitwad school...

try sacking up gochief...

[Ultra Peanut]

uh oh, another internet tough guy... just do us a favor... keep your lil 16yr old mouth shut and go back to watching starwars porn gochiefs..That insult is lamer than FDR's legs.

if you want to call FSU a competent team then you have to back up their schedule...They've played two road games against holy BCS teams this year. The result? 2-0.

And just for the record, here are Memphis' wins last year:

TN Tech 40-10 (I-AA)
Mississippi 44-34 (10-3, Cotton Bowl)
Arkansas St. 38-16 (5-7)
@ Houston 45-14 (7-6, Hawai'i Bowl)
@ Tulane 41-9 (5-7)
East Carolina 41-24 (1-11)
@ Louisville 37-7 (9-4, GMAC Bowl)
Cincinnati 21-16 (5-7)
New Orleans Bowl: North Texas 27-17 (9-4)

[WilliamTheIrish]

So uh hey Valiant you ****ing pussy, talk some of that shiot over here.

You f'n punk.

[Valiant]

oh here let me say im sorry to you ****ing dolt of mu/ku/kstate fans... you are all ****ing mindless donk-lovers... you have some of the worse band-wagon fans in college sports...

[WilliamTheIrish]

Let me add this. If you watched that game yesterday, (and I'm certain that you didn't) and did not come to the conclusion that Fresno has a pretty good squad, then you don't know shiot about college football.

[Ultra Peanut]

see there you go ASSuming i give a **** about most big 12 football teams... i enjoy the fact that you fukwads think your schools are worth a damn... that is why the majority of your schools schedule shitwad worth of schools to even give them a record... But what do you all go out and do...lose to a shitwad school...

try sacking up gochief...My deepest apologies. I assumed I was conversing with someone for whom English was a primary language.

No assumptions, dude. The vast majority of Mizzou's wins last year came against teams with downright awful records. Or are you trying to say that Illinois and Iowa State were powerhouses?

[Valiant]

My deepest apologies. I assumed I was conversing with someone for whom English was a primary language.

No assumptions, dude. The vast majority of Mizzou's wins last year came against teams with downright awful records. Or are you trying to say that Illinois and Iowa State were powerhouses?


where did i write MU was worth a damn...

MU is as bad as Kstate on racking up creampuffs or so-called creampuffs they cannot beat..

[Skip Towne]

So uh hey Valiant you ****ing pussy, talk some of that shiot over here.

You f'n punk.
And rep for you sir. That little marblemouth deserves all he gets.

[Valiant]

My deepest apologies. I assumed I was conversing with someone for whom English was a primary language.

No assumptions, dude. The vast majority of Mizzou's wins last year came against teams with downright awful records. Or are you trying to say that Illinois and Iowa State were powerhouses?


oh, i hope you are puffing your chest up behind the keyboard...

Here is this better for you. Are you able to understand a BB conversation soley off of missing capitalizations and extra periods. Have someone pat you on the back.

[Ultra Peanut]

O...kay.

[WilliamTheIrish]

oh, i hope you are puffing your chest up behind the keyboard...

Here is this better for you. Are you able to understand a BB conversation soley off of missing capitalizations and extra periods. Have someone pat you on the back.


Devastating smak there Valery.

[Valiant]

Let me add this. If you watched that game yesterday, (and I'm certain that you didn't) and did not come to the conclusion that Fresno has a pretty good squad, then you don't know shiot about college football.


Guess what..when FSU loses to some sorry ass teams in the later weeks your loss means even more... With the talk going around town how great FSU is they should not lose and be considered for a major bowl... Kstate is trying to pump up the loss, so it does not sting as bad...

Get used to it...

[Mr. Kotter]

Jayhawks?

Where the hell are my Kansas Jayhawks in this poll? :cuss:

:KU:

[Ultra Peanut]

Jayhawks?

Where the hell are my Kansas Jayhawks in this poll? :cuss:You know, I am somewhat surprised they didn't get ANY votes. If BC gets a few votes a week after escaping with an 8-point win over Ball freaking State (sorry tk) and a decent win over Penn State, Kansas should have at least gotten a little recognition.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Guess what..when FSU loses to some sorry ass teams in the later weeks your loss means even more... With the talk going around town how great FSU is they should not lose and be considered for a major bowl... Kstate is trying to pump up the loss, so it does not sting as bad...

Get used to it...

Guess what internet tough guy..... I'm smart enough to recognize a good team when I see it. Obviously for you it's much more difficult.

[Valiant]

Devastating smak there Valery.


Never meant to be devastating... Really don't care... Its fun, ****ing with the lil twirp and skip towne...

[Mr. Kotter]

You know, I am somewhat surprised they didn't get ANY votes. If BC gets a few votes a week after escaping with an 8-point win over Ball freaking State (sorry tk), Kansas should have at least gotten a little recognition.

Jayhawks win the Big 12 North this year, baby!

WOOOOOO-YEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH! :thumb:

[Valiant]

Guess what internet tough guy..... I'm smart enough to recognize a good team when I see it. Obviously for you it's much more difficult.


Fine we will come back to this in ten weeks... What are you going to do when FSU record is 7-3/6-4... And they lost to shittier teams then themselves...

If FSU goes undefeated, I will admit they are a great team... But it will not happen....

[Ultra Peanut]

Jayhawks win the Big 12 North this year, baby!

WOOOOOO-YEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH! :thumb:They're on the fast track at 2-0. ROFL

[Valiant]

Jayhawks win the Big 12 North this year, baby!

WOOOOOO-YEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH! :thumb:


honestly...

You have a great chance... Jayhawk fans are fine, because you all are rational(football wise)... Can't stand your basketball fans...But, you all have great teams year in and year out in basketball....

[Mr. Kotter]

honestly...

You have a great chance... Jayhawk fans are fine, because you all are rational(football wise)... Can't stand your basketball fans...But, you all have great teams year in and year out in basketball....

Eh...it's not Basketball season? :spock:

Nevermind, then.... :sulk:

We suck at Football.... :redface:

ROFL

;)

[Ultra Peanut]

Forget it, he's rolling.

[Valiant]

Eh...it's not Basketball season? :spock:

Nevermind, then.... :sulk:

We suck at Football.... :redface:

ROFL

;)


Hmmm.... SD, I said you have a great chance at football, then added I hate your basketball fans even though you have great teams... Was that easier to understand...

[Saulbadguy]

Congrats Fresno State for making #19 in the AP Top 25. You guys deserve it.

[Mr. Kotter]

Hmmm.... SD, I said you have a great chance at football, then added I hate your basketball fans even though you have great teams... Was that easier to understand...

Just messin' with you....

[Saulbadguy]

Fine we will come back to this in ten weeks... What are you going to do when FSU record is 7-3/6-4... And they lost to shittier teams then themselves...

If FSU goes undefeated, I will admit they are a great team... But it will not happen....
Uh..why don't you look at their schedule, and their 3 previous seasons? They have had 9+ win season for the past few years, and they have a schedule this year that will make them AT LEAST 10-1, if not 11-0.

I bet you can't wait till basketball season, huh?

[Valiant]

Uh..why don't you look at their schedule, and their 3 previous seasons? They have had 9+ win season for the past few years, and they have a schedule this year that will make them AT LEAST 10-1, if not 11-0.

I bet you can't wait till basketball season, huh?


no i view them as a creampuff just like MU...

[Saulbadguy]

no i view them as a creampuff just like MU...
You think Fresno State is a creampuff? Are you serious?

[Valiant]

You think Fresno State is a creampuff? Are you serious?


and this is the debate...

I said Fresno will lose 3-4 games later this year, to lesser teams.. there in turn making the earlier wins mean less...

yes, i am going on a huge limb...

[Saulbadguy]

Haha. Memphis is ranked just behind Louisville. :D

[Raiderhater]

You think Fresno State is a creampuff? Are you serious?


I'm glad I bowed out of this conversation. I deal with idiots enough as it is in the political forum.

[Saulbadguy]

and this is the debate...

I said Fresno will lose 3-4 games later this year, to lesser teams.. there in turn making the earlier wins mean less...

yes, i am going on a huge limb...
I'd say so. Their only loss if any will come to Boise State.

[Saulbadguy]

I'm glad I bowed out of this conversation. I deal with idiots enough as it is in the political forum.
I hear ya. Difference is you won't give up in a political debate, I won't give up in a College sports debate.

[Raiderhater]

I hear ya. Difference is you won't give up in a political debate, I won't give up in a College sports debate.


I can only carry the debate so far after my team embarrassed the hell out of me yesterday....

[Ultra Peanut]

Haha. Memphis is ranked just behind Louisville. :DThey had more votes than us when we went up there and kicked the shit out of them in the pizza box last year, too.

[Saulbadguy]

I can only carry the debate so far after my team embarrassed the hell out of me yesterday....
They played very poorly, but I won't let anyone discredit the efforts of Fresno State. I'm not trying to make excuses or anything like that, cause KSU really sucked, but Fresno State is a damn good team.

[Raiderhater]

They played very poorly, but I won't let anyone discredit the efforts of Fresno State. I'm not trying to make excuses or anything like that, cause KSU really sucked, but Fresno State is a damn good team.


I've given Fresno State their due both yesterday and today. At this juncture there is little to nothing I can do or say in this argument.

Only time will tell at this point.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Fine we will come back to this in ten weeks... What are you going to do when FSU record is 7-3/6-4... And they lost to shittier teams then themselves...

If FSU goes undefeated, I will admit they are a great team... But it will not happen....

See, this is where you and I differ. I don't know if FSU is a great team. To my knowledge nobody on this board has that. YOU seem to think that everybody who doesn't think FSU is a creampuff is trumpeting them for a MNC.
The FSU team I watched yesterday tackled well, rushed between the tackles very well, rushed the QB well and had outsanding ST's.

What part of that is wrong? Those are all elements of a damn fine squad. I'm not afraid to admit it.

[WilliamTheIrish]

honestly...

You have a great chance... Jayhawk fans are fine, because you all are rational(football wise)...

This is hilarious. A great chance at what? Winning the North division? ROFL

[Valiant]

See, this is where you and I differ. I don't know if FSU is a great team. To my knowledge nobody on this board has that. YOU seem to think that everybody who doesn't think FSU is a creampuff is trumpeting them for a MNC.
The FSU team I watched yesterday tackled well, rushed between the tackles very well, rushed the QB well and had outsanding ST's.

What part of that is wrong? Those are all elements of a damn fine squad. I'm not afraid to admit it.


No, I think kstate underestimated and played the poorest football i have ever seen by them... I think MU could have beat you guys that day...

[WilliamTheIrish]

No, I think kstate underestimated and played the poorest football i have ever seen by them... I think MU could have beat you guys that day...

ya gotta remember what KSU lost to graduation (or whatever)

Sr qb. Sr FB.(best in snyder ers. 4 starters on the OLine. SR WR who had 1300 yards and 12 TD's. (Big play guy-James Terry)

3 starters on the DLine. The 2 fastest LB's in the snyder era. Sr. FS who had 9 INT's.

That's a lot of talent. BUT, that's water under the bridge. FSU came out and dominated from whistle to whistle.

They beat the snot outta KSU.

[Valiant]

ya gotta remember what KSU lost to graduation (or whatever)

Sr qb. Sr FB.(best in snyder ers. 4 starters on the OLine. SR WR who had 1300 yards and 12 TD's. (Big play guy-James Terry)

3 starters on the DLine. The 2 fastest LB's in the snyder era. Sr. FS who had 9 INT's.

That's a lot of talent. BUT, that's water under the bridge. FSU came out and dominated from whistle to whistle.

They beat the snot outta KSU.

heeh we agree on that...kstate unfortunatly will bounce back...and trounce the rest of the B12 north...

[David.]

heeh we agree on that...kstate unfortunatly will bounce back...and trounce the rest of the B12 north...

who the fock do you root for? You tear down all our teams, yet don't claim allegiance to anybody :hmmm: Sounds pussirific to me. OH and your smack is terrible.