For those who want big changes

[Chiefnj]

After three weeks I've read opinions from fans that proclaim virtually every coach, player, and managemenet personnel should be fired. Assuming you had your way who do you:

a. Pick for GM.
b. Pick for head coach.
c. Hope the head coach picks for OC and DC.
d. Which players do you release and who/how do you fill their roster spot?
e. Who do you think retires and who/how do you fill their roster spot?

[Mark M]

a. Pick for GM.
Len Styles (sp?)

b. Pick for head coach.
I'd do everything I could to lure either Saban from LSU or Stoops from OU. All I know is that I do NOT want Saunders as HC.

c. Hope the head coach picks for OC and DC.
Not sure about this one.

d. Which players do you release and who/how do you fill their roster spot?
Warfield -- replace with a FA.
Hicks -- Replace with Wilkerson
Barber -- Hopefully, Key Fox could fill in.
Holliday -- Use an Allen/Browning rotation
McCleon -- FA or draft
Also, KC needs to get a MLB.
Morton -- Either FA, or have a young guy step it up (Smith, Horn or Parker)


e. Who do you think retires and who/how do you fill their roster spot?
Jason Dunn -- not sure if he can be replaced entirely. If Wilson can learn to block, then he's already replaced.
Roaf -- This will be a huge loss. We can only hope there is a FA available.
Priest -- I'm not sure if he'll want to go out like this (i.e. losing record), but I've just got a bad feeling that he'll be gone.

MM
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[Hammock Parties]

I want a head coach who is ALSO a GM.

[Mark M]

I want a head coach who is ALSO a GM.

Bad idea.

There have been very few coach/GM's that have been successful (Jimmy Johnson and Parcells come to mind). But 98% of the time there is just too much work for one person.

MM
~~:shake:

[Hammock Parties]

Bad idea.

There have been very few coach/GM's that have been successful (Jimmy Johnson and Parcells come to mind). But 98% of the time there is just too much work for one person.

MM
~~:shake:

That's why we have to get a GOOD ONE. Like belichick or parcells.

[Mark M]

That's why we have to get a GOOD ONE. Like belichick or parcells.

Um ... Parcells ain't going anywhere, and neither is Belihoweveritisspelled.

Who, oh Jedi master, would you suggest that has the knowledge and skills to do both and would come to KC (that's the key point -- Jimmy Johnson sure as hell ain't coming here).

MM
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[BigRedChief]

Stoops might come. But I'm still in DV's corner. He's just had a couple of bad games. But after this start I don't expect him back next year.

I defintely don't want the GM/CEO/President to be the same person because of a conflict of interest.

[Saulbadguy]

Eh..i don't know about Stoops. I'd rather have Carrol from USC.

[BigRedChief]

Eh..i don't know about Stoops. I'd rather have Carrol from USC.
Man he already messed up New England so bad. Look what happened after he left 2 out of the last 3 super bowls. I want no part of him

[jspchief]

Lynn Stiles for GM? He's the idiot that's evaluating all of the busts that we draft right now. If we get rid of Peterson, I want to get rid of the entire good 'ol boys club.

If I could have anyone for GM, it would be Bill Polian. He's built excellent teams for Buffalo, Indy, and now the Panthers. He's the guy that got booed when he took Manning over Leaf in '98, then booed again for taking Edge over Ricky williams the following year. He obviously has a knack for evaluating talent and building teams. Obviously he would not be available.

For HC, I'd have said Saunders last year. But watching his horrible play calling in the beginning of this year has changed my mind. I might like to look at Iowa's Kirk Ferentz. He's got NFL coaching experience (O-line) and is pretty highly touted as a capable pro coach. That may be a slightly homer pick, but beyond that I don't know what else is out there. I'm not a fan of Stoops, because he has the luxury of working with top tier talent.

I'd let the HC decide who gets the nod for coordinator.

As far as players, we need an influx of youth. We have too many guys that don't seem to play with passion. I'd get rid of Gonzo so that we could afford a true #1 WR, then concentrate on a playmaker on the defensive side of the ball...LB or DB. I don't think D-linemen are true playmakers/leaders very often.

[Garcia Bronco]

Eh..i don't know about Stoops. I'd rather have Carrol from USC.

I would do a happy dance if you guys hired him...I think you'll get worse. Carrol is barely a good college coach and we already know how he did in the NFL.

[jspchief]

Eh..i don't know about Stoops. I'd rather have Carrol from USC.

Pete Carrol? Hell, why not hire Dennis Erickson if we're looking for coaches that excell in college and suck in the pros.

[Saulbadguy]

Yeah. I forgot about that. My mistake.

[Mark M]

Lynn Stiles for GM? He's the idiot that's evaluating all of the busts that we draft right now. If we get rid of Peterson, I want to get rid of the entire good 'ol boys club.

Actually, Carl is the one who is drafting the busts. There is a difference between evaluating talent and then choosing to ignore that evaluation.

I suggested Stiles more on his ability to negotiate contract better than Carl.

However, if KC could get Pollian, I'd do a happy dance. That is a much better suggestion.

MM
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[TEX]

1. Jeff Diamond GM
2. Jeff Fisher HC (If Bud Adams Fires him after this season)
3. GUN - DC
4. Cut Holiday - replace with a real pass rush DE, Replace McDeion (Phobia named him) with Bartee, acquire a MLB who is a legit NFL starter, Acquire a legit # 1 WR.

I'd settle for keeping the front office as is if in the offseason they made some personnel changes. The deal is we need to add a stand out player at 4 levels (WR, LB, DL, CB) and that's a tall task to do in one year. Course, it wouldn't have been that hard had we just added half of that this past off season. Just another example of if you stand pat - you FALL BEHIND because it adds to your moves that you must make in future years... :banghead:

[htismaqe]

For GM, I'd try to get someone who can evaluate talent...maybe even someone with NFL experience (as a player). I'm not offering any names, because I'd really like to see us go outside the "good old boy" network.

For HC, Kirk Ferentz. Former NFL o-line coach, understands how to win in the trenches (believes in building from the off. and def. lines BACK), and has a good eye for coordinators. I'd let him pick the coordinators.

For personnel, I'd like to see an evaluation of the young people we have, with an eye towards getting rid of the following people:

Jerome Woods, Dexter McCleon, William Bartee, Eric Hicks, and Vonnie Holliday

I would also prepare for the departures of the following (through drafting "oTF"-type players):

Roaf, Shields, Trent Green, Richardson, Priest, Browning, and Barber

[Mr. Laz]

Our New General Manager


Scott Pioli Vice President - Player Personnel - New England Patriots

School: Syracuse (master's)
Major: Television and Film studies
Born: Mar 31, 1965 Washingtonville NY


Notes

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Scott Pioli joined the New England Patriots on Feb. 10, 2000 and has worked in concert with Head Coach Bill Belichick to orchestrate one of the most successful performances in NFL history. It took the pair just two seasons to rebuild the foundation of the team and to successfully implement their shared football philosophy. By 2001, the Patriots had acquired 21 veteran free agents who helped form the nucleus of the franchise’s first Super Bowl Championship team. Just two years later, the Patriots claimed their second Super Bowl title in three seasons, capping a franchise-best 14-2 regular season record with the third-best record in NFL history, 17-2. Forty-six of the 53 players on the team’s Super Bowl XXXVIII roster were acquired since 2000, including 19 starters. The team’s success brought national acclaim to many individual contributors, including Pioli, who became the youngest person to ever earn NFL Executive of the Year honors.

In the past three seasons (2001-03), the Patriots have recorded 40 victories, totaling not only the most for any three-year period in franchise history, but also the most in the NFL during that time. New England has won two division titles to qualify for the playoffs and has gone undefeated through the playoffs both years, claiming two conference titles and two Super Bowl Championships. The team’s renaissance was achieved by developing team leadership and the depth of the roster. By the end of the 2003 season, 56 of the 64 players who contributed to the historic success of the team were acquired since 2000. Of the 17 Pioli/Belichick draft choices who were on the active roster in 2003, 15 started at least one game. The same was true for eight of the 16 veterans acquired in 2003.

In 2003, no team relied on their depth and team leadership more than the New England Patriots. New England used 42 different starters during the regular season, the most ever by a division winner. The Patriots opened the 2003 season with a devastating defeat to a division rival, followed by a rash of injuries that claimed five opening-day starters in the first few weeks of the season, including four who missed the remainder of the season on injured reserve. Players who started during the 2003 season missed a combined total of 103 games, forcing the Patriots to utilize their entire roster throughout the season. The team had a different combination of 22 starters for each game, starting 15 different lineups on offense and 10 different lineups on defense. Yet, the Patriots rebounded from their season-opening loss to win 17 of their next 18 games, culminating with another dramatic, last-second field goal to claim a 32-29 victory in Super Bowl XXXVIII. Only the 1985 Chicago Bears and the 1984 San Francisco 49ers won more games (18) than the 2003 Patriots.

For Pioli, the 2003 NFL Executive of the Year honor was actually the second time he had been recognized for such an honor. After the Patriots won Super Bowl XXXVI, the Dallas Morning News named Pioli their 2001 NFL Executive of the Year. In 2003, a variety of national publications came to the same conclusion, as Pro Football Weekly (voted on by the media), The Sporting News (voted on by NFL executives) and Sports Illustrated all tabbed Pioli as their honoree.

As vice president of player personnel, Pioli’s responsibilities include overseeing the college draft and free agency, as well as negotiating most of the Patriots’ free agent contracts. Since he arrived in New England, he has shown a propensity for finding veteran free agents who can contribute and play important roles in building playoff-contending teams. Since 2000, the Patriots have signed dozens of veteran free agents. In 2001 alone, the team’s class of 17 veteran free agents produced two team captains, seven full-time starters, three special teams specialists and two veteran nickel backs. The veteran leadership was critical to the Patriots’ success that year, as the team completed its divisional worst-to-first turnaround and set the then-franchise record of nine consecutive victories to close out the season as Super Bowl Champions. His successes that season earned him league-wide recognition as one of the best young personnel evaluators in the game.

In 2003, the Patriots signed a dozen veteran free agents, including Rodney Harrison and Tyrone Poole, and traded a fourth-round draft choice for Ted Washington to help fortify a defense that led the league and set a franchise record by allowing just 14.9 points per game (238 total) and posted three shutouts to establish another team record. In addition, the team drafted seven players who made first-year contributions, including two who became season-long starters.

Pioli began his NFL career when Belichick hired him as the pro personnel assistant of the Cleveland Browns in 1992. In Cleveland, he was responsible for the evaluation of both college prospects and veteran free agents as well as negotiating various player contracts. He also coordinated all player tryouts. He was promoted to director of pro personnel after the Cleveland franchise moved to Baltimore in 1996. He spent one season with the Baltimore Ravens, where he oversaw all aspects of pro personnel and negotiated the contracts of free agents and several draft choices.

In 1997, while serving as head coach of the Jets, Belichick hired Pioli as the director of pro personnel. He was credited with the signing of a number of veteran free agents who played critical roles in the Jets’ rebuilding process. In just two seasons, the Jets completed a worst-to-first turnaround, rebounding from 1-15 in 1996 to 12-4 in 1998. The 12 wins were the most in franchise history and gave the Jets their first division title since 1968.

Pioli played defensive tackle at Central Connecticut State (1983-87), where he was a three-time Division II All-New England selection. After graduating with a degree in communications, he accepted a two-year graduate assistant position at Syracuse University beginning in 1988.

He accepted a full-time coaching opportunity at Murray State, where he spent one season as the offensive line coach (1990) and one season as the defensive line coach (1991). He left the coaching ranks to join the Browns personnel department in 1992.

Scott was born on March 31, 1965 in Washingtonville, N.Y. He is an avid baseball fan. Pioli currently serves on the board of directors for various non-profit foundations and was recently named to the board of directors for the Foundation for Excellent Schools, a national non-profit organization that partners with public schools in high-need communities to raise student aspirations and performance. He remains actively involved in fund raising for several organizations in his hometown (Washingtonville, N.Y.) and participates in Eric Mangini’s annual Football Fundamentals Mini-Camp in Hartford, Conn. He established the Rose Pioli Scholarship in the name of his grandmother to benefit children of educators, professional firefighters, police and other emergency medical service providers. Scott and his wife, Dallas, celebrated the birth of their first child, Mia Costa Pioli, on July 1, 2003.

[htismaqe]

Our New General Manager


Scott Pioli Vice President - Player Personnel - New England Patriots

School: Syracuse (master's)
Major: Television and Film studies
Born: Mar 31, 1965 Washingtonville NY

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Sounds GREAT to me.

I would say that it also strengthens the case for bringing in a guy like Ferentz. His attitude fits with the Pats current personnel "profile" -- hard work to go with talent.

In addition, Ferentz was assistant Head Coach/O-line Coach of the Browns/Ravens from 1992 to 1998 -- Pioli was running player personnel for then Browns HC Bill Belichekc from 1991-1996.