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Mr. Laz 04-14-2007 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman
True.

However if the Chiefs were in the position to draft him, would you take that risk?

if you rate him high you do ....... then you look to trade LJ instead of giving him a new huge contract.

crazycoffey 04-14-2007 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman
True.

However if the Chiefs were in the position to draft him, would you take that risk?


I wouldn't, wasted pick IMO - even at 23. We have a style now and a good runner that fits that style, throwing AP in the mix would mess things up even if he didn't turn up bust. I like the idea of BPA, but there has to be a range, we have several needs and a few holes, but RB, TE, LB, S shouldn't be in our first round plans.

Chiefs Pantalones 04-14-2007 01:14 PM

I don't care who the Chiefs draft as long as they draft BPA.

crazycoffey 04-14-2007 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
If I could spin it into trading Larry Johnson yea.....if not I probably wouldn't because they are almost carbon copies of each other, Petersons faster and a little more naturally talented but either way very similiar players.


AP is similar to LJ?


sorry for my last post then, I figured AP more priest holmes style, finesse type, I was wrong. I still don't know that I'd take him, we have something not broken, why fix it, fix the parts that aren't working well.

LiL stumppy 04-14-2007 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
Ugh.......I HATE this philosphy you want offensive lineman be damned. This is how you end up with busts notice the DT's we've drafted.....

We have alot more holes than just line.......

Trading up to get a player means were going to have a bust? Trading down and gathering a bunch of prospects is what Herm said he wanted to do a month or two ago. I didn't saying that was the best thing to do,but thats what he wanted/wants to do.

Mecca 04-14-2007 01:16 PM

Adrian Peterson is 6'2 230........he's faster than LJ is but he runs sorta upright and is a big power back, he's very similiar. Little faster, little more naturally gifted but similiar none the less.

milkman 04-14-2007 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
If I could spin it into trading Larry Johnson yea.....if not I probably wouldn't because they are almost carbon copies of each other, Petersons faster and a little more naturally talented but either way very similiar players.

I think that Harrell very well could be the BPA available at 23, in spite of his inury history, and not as the result of the otherwise lack of depth and talent at the DT position.

He's a guy with talent and heart.

He, like Peterson, is someone I would take the risk with, because his injuries aren't the nagging type that red flag a player's desire.

They are the result of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Mecca 04-14-2007 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LiL stumpy
Trading up to get a player means were going to have a bust? Trading down and gathering a bunch of prospects is what Herm said he wanted to do a month or two ago. I didn't saying that was the best thing to do,but thats what he wanted/wants to do.

Levi Brown is the only Tackle worth moving for and guess what he's gonna go between 10-15 more likely......that kinda move would require more than a team with our holes should be willing to give.

crazycoffey 04-14-2007 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
Adrian Peterson is 6'2 230........he's faster than LJ is but he runs sorta upright and is a big power back, he's very similiar. Little faster, little more naturally gifted but similiar none the less.


I read the summary on him, he was out when MU played them and I didn't see him play. I didn't realize they were that similar, better hands, but still you take him, trade LJ and then he busts, man that's risky....

LJ is proving himself rather well, and not complaining about a big contract, I like him and don't think he's gonna burn out quick from the high load last year.

LiL stumppy 04-14-2007 01:20 PM

How often do 5th,6th,7th round players pan out? I would rather have 2 solding players than a alot of prospects.

milkman 04-14-2007 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey
I wouldn't, wasted pick IMO - even at 23. We have a style now and a good runner that fits that style, throwing AP in the mix would mess things up even if he didn't turn up bust. I like the idea of BPA, but there has to be a range, we have several needs and a few holes, but RB, TE, LB, S shouldn't be in our first round plans.

Mecca's right.

Peterson fits into Herman ****ing Edwards' offense perfectly, and he would give us options with regards to LJ.

Also, there's no way I'd pass up either LB or S if they are the BPA.

Donnie Edwards and N Harris are stopgap measures, IMO, and we need to look to the future, as well as the present.

And the reality is, at safety, both young guys are unproven, and we lack depth there anyway.

Mecca 04-14-2007 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LiL stumpy
How often do 5th,6th,7th round players pan out? I would rather have 2 solding players than a alot of prospects.

Moving from 23-13 as an example would cost us probably a 2 and a 4.....so saying 5th,6th,7th isn't right it would take atleast one of our day 1 picks and likely a day 2 also.

crazycoffey 04-14-2007 01:25 PM

all in all, good conversations. I understand the reasoning behind BPA, but I'm a balance type guy and think there are still some limits, I would like to get a good talented guy that helps us this year not in the next couple of years, with our first round pick.

I will say this, I'm ready for the draft, I want to see how this all unflolds, should be fun.

I will also say, no matter who we pick; what's the over/under that Logical hates the pick?

Mecca 04-14-2007 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey
all in all, good conversations. I understand the reasoning behind BPA, but I'm a balance type guy and think there are still some limits, I would like to get a good talented guy that helps us this year not in the next couple of years, with our first round pick.

I will say this, I'm ready for the draft, I want to see how this all unflolds, should be fun.

I will also say, no matter who we pick; what's the over/under that Logical hates the pick?

Don't worry I'm great on draft day if I don't like the pick I'll swear constantly and throw things at the TV.

I think a WR would start for us from day 1 and be atleast as productive as what we had there last year and that being in his developmental 1st year.

LiL stumppy 04-14-2007 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
Moving from 23-13 as an example would cost us probably a 2 and a 4.....so saying 5th,6th,7th isn't right it would take atleast one of our day 1 picks and likely a day 2 also.

I would do it in a heartbeat. Get a Levi Brown. Get a good prospect at CB in the third. And maybe get some good speical team players in the late rounds.


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