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beach tribe 08-07-2008 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 4897708)
Call me crazy, but I tend to see human life as infinitely more valuable than the lives of animals.

Me too.

Just not this guys life. I see it as less valuable.

At least I can eat the animal.

bishop_74 08-07-2008 11:35 AM

Tell that guy to enjoy his death. Too bad he abandoned his own family by committing these crimes. Makes what he did even worse. Not sure why his wife is so interested in saving him. Makes her a bad mother if you ask me. I wouldn't want that kind of influence in my kids life.

Skip Towne 08-07-2008 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 4897706)
I tend to agree with Mic. I've sort of come full circle on this issue over the last 10 years. I'd rather the guy rotted in prison.

As an aside, if he is given the chair, I'm not going to shed a tear for him.

Remember Shannon Agofsky? The guy who robbed the Bank of Noel Mo? And murdered the banker? His life was spared and a couple of years later he killed a fellow inmate. He is now on death row where he should have been in the first place.

Micjones 08-07-2008 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFan4Life (Post 4897716)
Who are you to judge? How can you not judge for human lives but you can make a statement like this? You're getting ridiculous now.

Humans have the ability to reason. Animals do not.
Carry on though...

You're right. I'm crazy.

Demonpenz 08-07-2008 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 4897698)
We should all just hold hands and sing Kumbaya.

good song

Micjones 08-07-2008 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 4897725)
Remember Shannon Agofsky? The guy who robbed the Bank of Noel Mo? And murdered the banker? His life was spared and a couple of years later he killed a fellow inmate. He is now on death row where he should have been in the first place.

The Justice System is flawed.
And innocent people have been put to death.
This can be argued both ways.

Rain Man 08-07-2008 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 4897708)
Call me crazy, but I tend to see human life as infinitely more valuable than the lives of animals.

I'm kinda the opposite. My hierarchy is:


1. Animals
2. (Close behind.) People I know and like.
3. People I don't know.
4. People I know and don't like.

eazyb81 08-07-2008 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFan4Life (Post 4897716)
Who are you to judge? How can you not judge for human lives but you can make a statement like this? You're getting ridiculous now.

Totally agree, his view is comical at this point.

Redrum_69 08-07-2008 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 4897708)
Call me crazy, but I tend to see human life as infinitely more valuable than the lives of animals.



which brings about a more suitable question....


Should Claythan start seeking out Prison Chicks who may be getting out in 2008, 2009, or 2010 for conjugal visits?


those women would be desperate as a wpi contributor or editor refreshing the fatchatter.com website seaching for new material

ChiefsFan4Life 08-07-2008 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 4897727)
Humans have the ability to reason. Animals do not.
Carry on though...

You're right. I'm crazy.

Animals do have the ability to reason, just not to the extent of humans

Nice try though

Lzen 08-07-2008 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 4897739)
Totally agree, his view is comical at this point.

I am seriously starting to consider the possibility that he is related to Denise.

Valiant 08-07-2008 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 4897538)
In a grand sense? Absolutely.
Obviously, I've never taken another human being's life, but my view of the world makes me every bit as fallible as the next man. And since I'm finite and only capable of so much cognitively... I'm not qualified to make a decision on another human being's life.



Not putting the man to death is hardly overlooking the crime altogether.
There are other ways to achieve retribution.

Yet your tune would change greatly if your family was brutally murdered, especially if it were from them helping somebody..

Midnight_Vulture 08-07-2008 11:38 AM

I hope he gets the death penalty and dies slowly. What a scumbag. And I am sure glad that you liberals feel soooo much compassion for death row convicts. Seriously, it warms my little heart.

Love your backwards...I mean...left wing thinking.

markk 08-07-2008 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man
this guy is guilty beyond any reasonable doubt, and what he's doing now is asking for mercy.

I agree. No doubt really that he's guilty, people are just asking for the state not to impose the sentence that the judge imposed?

I have no doubt that his attitude is different now that the day of reckoning for what he's done is approaching. But people like this don't deserve an exception to be made for them. He can't complain about the hand he dealt himself.

Baby Lee 08-07-2008 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 4897711)
i was friends with tim degraffenreid in elementary school real sad that he got tangled up in this shit, but i would still not sign a petition to save him or any of his "friends"

I had an . . . acquaintence, wouldn't call him a friend, interacted with him more than most, but everybody bagged on him [he was a Claythan type, not that I'm suggesting Claythan has this guy's bad qualities, but he was the doughy boy who reveled in being picked on]. When I was in college, he and a buddy of his called upon a guy who had advertised a car for sale, test drove the car with the guy, killed him and took off in the car.


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