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FAX 09-08-2008 02:59 PM

I struggle to understand the Herm apologists' perspective on this game. This contest was not lost due to lack of talent. The mistakes notwithstanding, our guys could have (and probably should have) won this one. The outcome turned on a poor offensive performance that was primarily fueled by Solarideux playcalling. The R2P2 scheme does not compensate for lack of player ability and shouting does not make it so.

Adding insult to the injury are Herm's statements that we're going to do things on offense that take advantage of the talent on the field. Nothing ... nothing could be further from the truth.

I fear that Herm is taking us down a very, long road that will end nowhere.

FAX

Chiefnj2 09-08-2008 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 4996076)
I struggle to understand the Herm apologists' perspective on this game. This contest was not lost due to lack of talent. The mistakes notwithstanding, our guys could have (and probably should have) won this one. The outcome turned on a poor offensive performance that was primarily fueled by Solarideux playcalling. The R2P2 scheme does not compensate for lack of player ability and shouting does not make it so.

Adding insult to the injury are Herm's statements that we're going to do things on offense that take advantage of the talent on the field. Nothing ... nothing could be further from the truth.

I fear that Herm is taking us down a very, long road that will end nowhere.

FAX

People don't want to hear it, but part of the problem is the drafting. You've got to to balance best player available with position of need. KC doesn't need to be 5 HB deep and someone like Morgan isn't doing much good on the bench. A few more picks mid draft on the OL would have helped a lot.

FAX 09-08-2008 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 4996092)
People don't want to hear it, but part of the problem is the drafting. You've got to to balance best player available with position of need. KC doesn't need to be 5 HB deep and someone like Morgan isn't doing much good on the bench. A few more picks mid draft on the OL would have helped a lot.

You raise a very good point, Mr. Chiefnj2. Clearly, we're top heavy at RB (pretty deep there, as well). But, I think some of that is, frankly, accidental. I'm not sure Herm's staff knew how well some of these guys would ultimately perform. Now we have so many good ones, Herm can't leave them home.

When it comes to the draft, I'm more of a BPA person. I'm sure that Herm and his band of morons are making the best decisions they can in terms of personnel and, so far, I can't argue with Herm's drafts. The jury is well out on most of these guys. Still, the OL is a good example of the flaws in our current approach.

It's pretty logical. Without a good OL, you can't do much on offense. If you can't do much on offense, the young skill players will not progress (or as quickly). If the young skill players do not progress, we suck much longer than is necessary. Not only that, you can get your young skill players killed.

But, if you OL sucks and you're stuck with it, the last thing you want to do is tell the enemy defense what you're going to do before you do it. Or, simply run the same play over and over so the enemy can get plenty of practice banging your head into the turf.

I'm not convinced that Herm is "all that" when it comes to the draft and player development. He may be, and we'll all find out eventually. In the meantime, he isn't doing himself or his players any favors with his offensive philosophy.

It's puzzling, frankly. I've been doing some research on the T2 or C2 defense. It was originally designed to counter the West Coast offense and actually came from the old Steeler defensive scheme. The basic (and I emphasize for Mr. Zouk the term, "basic") idea is to keep the play in front of you, force the enemy offense to dink and dunk their way down field via long drives, and get them to either turn the ball over (the C2 is also about hard hitting CBs and lots of good QB pressure from the DL), or make a mistake and punt.

Interestingly, that is exactly Herm's proven, demonstrable, offensive philosophy. So, we have a guy who believes fully in the C2 defense, but plays offense in the exact, same way he thinks provides the defense with the overall advantage. Odd.

FAX

OnTheWarpath15 09-08-2008 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 4996092)
People don't want to hear it, but part of the problem is the drafting. You've got to to balance best player available with position of need. KC doesn't need to be 5 HB deep and someone like Morgan isn't doing much good on the bench. A few more picks mid draft on the OL would have helped a lot.


Really?

Like who?

Here's a list of guys drafted in Rounds 2-5 that were consistently mentioned around here:

Mike Pollack
Cody Wallace
Kory Lichtensteiger
Chilo Rachal
Jeremy Zuttah
Chad Rinehart
Oneil Cousins
Mike McGlynn
Roy Schuening
John Greco
Anthony Collins
Tony Hills
Carl Nicks


Not ONE of them is starting for their respective teams. And if you go look at each team's depth chart, you'll be amazed what kind of "talent" they are sitting behind.

None of them would have helped THIS year.

ChiefsCountry 09-08-2008 03:35 PM

RB was pure luck from UDFA.

Buehler445 09-08-2008 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 4996092)
People don't want to hear it, but part of the problem is the drafting. You've got to to balance best player available with position of need. KC doesn't need to be 5 HB deep and someone like Morgan isn't doing much good on the bench. A few more picks mid draft on the OL would have helped a lot.

In a lot of cases that's true, but I don't think it is the case, especially at RT. Given the performance of Herb on the left side and Richardson in preseason, with the amount of suck McIntosh has laid out there, its amazing to me that they don't give either one of those two at least a shot and put McIntosh as a backup on the left where he wants to be.

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