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BigVE 02-01-2009 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3 (Post 5446188)
That was a year and what, two fights ago? Color me impressed.

That's ok, if your not impressed by what he has done then you have a lot to learn about MMA and the caliber of fighters that are out there. Serra got lucky and everyone including Serra has said so. Matt Hughes was one of the best there has ever been and got absolutely pummeled by GSP at his own game. Serra got absolutely pummeled by GSP. GSP's last fight was against a guy who was supposed to be his "toughest opponent yet" and he dominated him. THEN you take into account Penn is considered top 5 in the world pound for pound (some ranked him higher than GSP) and he was also absolutely destroyed and humiliated by GSP. That's what has been impressive, HOW he has won. He hardly got hit last night at all and Penn is considered one of THE best boxers too, let alone the fact that he is world class at Jiu-jitsu and had NOTHING for GSP. Nothing. If your not impressed your just have hater-vision on and cant see the picture that is plainly in front of your face.

burt 02-01-2009 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 5446125)
Who gives a F if guys are cocky.

They're professional fighters. They're all cocky. You'd have to be just to make in that sport.
I think after this, BJ should just stay at 155 and dominate.

This.

burt 02-01-2009 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3 (Post 5446207)
Here it is. It's been a lot longer than I thought. How time does fly when you're getting old.

04-07-2007 : Lost to Serra in the first. Was wholly unprepared.
08-25-2007 : Beat Koscheck by a decision. Not a great win IMO, but I didn't see the fight.
12-19-2007 : Kicked the crap out of an old Matt Hughes.
04-19-2008 : Finally beat Serra, who isn't very good.
08-09-2008 : Beat John Fitch, but it went the full 5 rounds.
01-31-2009 : Beat up a lightweight fighter.

The guy has been fighting every four months. That's pretty impressive. More guys should be doing this. Just stay in shape.


Matt Hughes isn't old. The rest is true.

GSP is a very tough opponent. One of the previous posts was touting how tough Penn is. I mostly agree, but sometimes he tends to coast, hoping to catch an opponent getting sloppy and throwing a great submission hold. That kind of shit won't work when fighting someone of GSP's caliber.

SAUTO 02-01-2009 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BigVE (Post 5446179)
ANY FIGHTER can get caught...it does happen. Even Fedor has been beat.

that fight, to be fair, should have been a no decision, early cut illegal IIRC

El Jefe 02-01-2009 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poz (Post 5446083)
I'm curious, what are your thoughts now? Time to find a new "Prodigy"?

I didn't give him that nickname, it was given to him when he first started, he's a little old to be a prodigy anymore LOL. I don't like either fighter, so I really didn't care who won. I don't like GSP at all, and I like BJ a little more than I like GSP, which isn't saying much. I didn't buy the fight because I didn't care who won.

El Jefe 02-01-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BigVE (Post 5446179)
ANY FIGHTER can get caught...it does happen. Even Fedor has been beat.

Give me a break, any person who watched that fight agrees it should have been a NC, it was an illegal headbutt that opened a giant gash above his eye. I am an old Pride Fan, I watched everything Pride, those were the days IMO.

El Jefe 02-01-2009 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5446400)
that fight, to be fair, should have been a no decision, early cut illegal IIRC

Wow, a post above mine and I still didn't read it, I was working my way from page six and never saw yours. I agree with you :).

SAUTO 02-01-2009 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ (Post 5446810)
Give me a break, any person who watched that fight agrees it should have been a NC, it was an illegal headbutt that opened a giant gash above his eye. I am an old Pride Fan, I watched everything Pride, those were the days IMO.

Me TOO i watched wanderlei vs mark hunt last night, i thought wand should've won just for hanging in there about 75 lbs lighter

El Jefe 02-01-2009 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5446820)
Me TOO i watched wanderlei vs mark hunt last night, i thought wand should've won just for hanging in there about 75 lbs lighter

They had some great fights back in Pride. Fedor vs Hunt was a good one too. Fedor was in some battles, I liked when he fought Cro Cop, that was a true war. Fedor said it was the toughest fight he has ever had. Fedor fought some true beasts in Pride, Semmy Schilt, Hong Man Choi, Mark Coleman, it was fun to watch Pride. Wandy was one of my favorites too.

Jerm 02-01-2009 04:19 PM

Hunt vs. Wandy was awesome just for the Atomic Butt Drop from Hunt.

Classic.

Jerm 02-01-2009 04:31 PM

Also Machida IMO will now become the most ducked fighter in the UFC.

Everyone in the LHW division, that includes my boy Rampage and Rashad and whoever else, can say what they want but I guarantee that NO ONE wants him right now.

His style and gameplans are flawless and tailor made for MMA.

El Jefe 02-01-2009 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 5446945)
Also Machida IMO will now become the most ducked fighter in the UFC.

Everyone in the LHW division, that includes my boy Rampage and Rashad and whoever else, can say what they want but I guarantee that NO ONE wants him right now.

His style and gameplans are flawless and tailor made for MMA.

Yep, he is also a counter striker, he is very patient, and can be very very boring to watch. IMO, Rampage and Rashad would beat him.

ArrowheadHawk 02-02-2009 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5440563)
GOOD REASON being that he fights at that weight all the time?

No good reason cause he is supremely better than bj.

ArrowheadHawk 02-02-2009 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 5441396)
GSP is a JJ black belt...he got it not too long ago.

I wanna how his guard would be with a world class JJ guy like Penn on top...that would be interesting IMO.

Yeah....that didn't even come close to happening.

ArrowheadHawk 02-02-2009 12:52 AM

I guess I was right. Were are all the GSP haters that said he was going to lose?


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