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'Hamas' Jenkins 02-26-2009 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5529690)
See: Scott Boras, Drew Rosenhaus, Hadley Engelhard.

Mark probably trusts his brother more than anyone else.. I don't see a problem with that.

Clearly, he should have hired one of those guys.

Bob Sugar Rosenhaus only wants what is best for his guys. But that Nick Sanchez, not only did he get his law degree by stealing someone's identity, he's a greasier bastard than Billy Mays.

Just Passin' By 02-26-2009 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5529654)
Here we go again...... at this point I feel like I'm picking on a reeruned puppy.

Who's Sanchez' agent?

Is he related to Sanchez? If he is, is this a potential problem?

Has he been a football agent before?

In all his years of experience as this agent, how has he done for his clients?

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5529686)
Is he a lawyer? Yes.

What do most lawyer's do in their jobs?

Does he have outside advisers? Yes

What do those advisers do? Represent professional athletes, including NFL quarterbacks.

But yes, I'm sure that Nick Sanchez will just sign over Mark's soul with a big X since he has <del>no legal experience and no one else to fall back on for advice</del>

And again, the irony of your posts amuses....

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5529628)
Do you ever answer anything? Or do you just resort to empty obfuscation?...


bdeg 02-26-2009 12:30 PM

I think this is a simple miscommunication.

JPB thinks its something that will raise flags with nfl teams(meaning its something they will want to investigate further)

Hamas you believe that once they investigate it they shouldn't consider it a flag, but that doesn't mean that every team isn't going to do that investigating and come to their own decision.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-26-2009 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5529705)
And again, the irony of your posts amuses....

Because I'm offering specific and pointed evidence that counters your claims?

Yeah, that's really obfuscating and skirting the issue.

It's almost like I didn't reply that Nick Sanchez had a law degree, has an impressive resume, and that Mark hired outside advisers with a litany of experience.

Only, I did.

But yeah, I'm the one who is muddying the waters, because you say so.

And you're not using circular reasoning in any way shape or form.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-26-2009 12:34 PM

I, for one, can't wait to read the next scouting report for Sanchez:

Negatives: Hired his brother (an attorney) as agent with Dunn (respected agent) acting as an adviser.

Just Passin' By 02-26-2009 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5529644)
Can you even explain to me what you think my logic is? At this point, I'm not sure we're even debating the same subject, but I could be wrong.

Are we not talking about the riskiness of players and the likelihood that certain players will flame out? Consider this a concession because I'm so confused now, I'm not even sure what the original point was.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=105

There's your assertion.

Just Passin' By 02-26-2009 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5529716)
Because I'm offering specific and pointed evidence that counters your claims?

Yeah, that's really obfuscating and skirting the issue.

It's almost like I didn't reply that Nick Sanchez had a law degree, has an impressive resume, and that Mark hired outside advisers with a litany of experience.

Only, I did.

But yeah, I'm the one who is muddying the waters, because you say so.

And you're not using circular reasoning in any way shape or form.

Because you didn't answer the questions, dipshit.

Frosty 02-26-2009 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5529653)
That's this dupe's schtick. Doesn't address the actual issues, lacks reading comprehension, disputes any and everything, doesn't backup assertions with details and/or evidence, resorts to name calling and generalizations, etc.

Moves the goalposts when pinned down, subtle insinuations that you are too stupid to understand his point of view, etc.

However, he's not a dupe. He's a Steeler fan originally from Fatchatter.

Just Passin' By 02-26-2009 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by arc (Post 5529750)
Moves the goalposts when pinned down, subtle insinuations that you are too stupid to understand his point of view, etc.

However, he's not a dupe. He's a Steeler fan originally from Fatchatter.

If you're referring to me, I don't move the goalposts and I'm not a Steelers fan. Hell, I haven't needed to even think about moving the goalposts. The blatant errors and lies of the "Gang" makes it unnecessary.

htismaqe 02-26-2009 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5529738)

That didn't help. I'm still reeruned. Sorry. Forget it.

orange 02-26-2009 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5529628)

This is ridiculous.

The "questions" about Sanchez hiring his brother where based upon an entirely false premise. They are, by definition, illegitimate. He has outside advisers, he isn't flying by the seat of his pants.

He "has outside advisers" NOW, because of the firestorm that he ignited when he hired his brother. The brother hiring was reported at least as early as 1/26. The next two days the press was filled with negative commentary about that. He THEN announced he would be adding David Dunn to his team.

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5529628)
Sanchez hiring his brother is a legitimate concern because he his brother isn't qualified and he has no other help, even though he is and he does.

I don't know where you learned rhetoric--check that, you obviously didn't--but when people make claims, they support them with evidence. That's why we link posts here. That's why we seek outside sources.

"USC and Mission Viejo High standout quarterback Mark Sanchez didn't have to go far for a sports agent: He's being represented by older brother and former Yale QB Nick Sanchez, a business litigator with Theodora Oringher Miller & Richman in Costa Mesa. Mark is the first client of Nick's new sports consultancy at the law firm. Mark has decided to skip his final year of college eligibility and enter the NFL draft, where he is expected to land a lucrative contract ..." http://www.ocbj.com/industry_article...76&aID2=133541

"Mark Sanchez, the former QB for USC, is being represented by his older brother Nick Sanchez. Nick is a business litigator with Theodora Oringher Miller and Richman in Costa Mesa. Not only is Nick a family member, but he has no experience in representing professional athletes in contractual negotiations.

Do you really want to jump into that role with a family member, who some believe could be the No. 1 overall pick, before you have any experience in the industry? To Nick’s credit, he has a lot under his belt in a variety of other legal practice areas, and seems to have a strong educational background. I still have an issue with a sports agent being a family member." http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...o-be-his-agent

"Mark Sanchez, former QB for USC, is being represented by his older brother Nick Sanchez, a business litigator with Theodora Oringher Miller & Richman in Costa Mesa. Not only is Nick a family member, but he has no experience in representing professional athletes in contractual negotiations. Do you really want to jump into that role with a family member who some believe could be the #1 overall pick before you have any experience in the industry? To Nick’s credit, he does have a ton of work under his belt in a variety of other legal practice areas and seems to have a strong educational background. I still seem to have an issue with a sports agent being a family member." http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2009/...-be-his-agent/

"Mark Sanchez has reportedly hired his brother, Nick Sanchez, as his agent. Nick was a quarterback at Yale, earned his law degree at USC, and works as a business litigator for Theodora Oringher Miller & Richman in Costa Mesa. According to the Orange County Business Journal, "Mark is the first client of Nick's new sports consultancy at the law firm." ... This move might answer nagging questions about who actually encouraged Sanchez to turn pro. Trojan coach Pete Carroll strongly disagreed with the move, and it seems that there was also dissension within the Sanchez family. In a fan poll on latimes.com, the majority of voters thought it was the wrong call." http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/allt...hez-agent.html

Followed-up by:
"UPDATE: Nick Sanchez confirmed the arrangement to LA Times reporter Gary Klein. He does have some experience in the sports world, as his firm represented the Angels in their fight with Anaheim over the Los Angeles name issue. David Dunn, an experienced agent who represents Carson Palmer, will be retained as an adviser." http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/allt...hez-agent.html

Just Passin' By 02-26-2009 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5529870)
That didn't help. I'm still reeruned. Sorry. Forget it.

No, you're not reeruned. I'm sorry if I seemed a bit (or a lot) abrasive with you. I'm just tired of Hamas' idiocy and, if I let that annoyance spill over to my posts to you, I apologize sincerely. You certainly had done nothing to merit such a thing.

htismaqe 02-26-2009 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5529883)
No, you're not reeruned. I'm sorry if I seemed a bit (or a lot) abrasive with you. I'm just tired of Hamas' idiocy and, if I let that annoyance spill over to my posts to you, I apologize sincerely. You certainly had done nothing to merit such a thing.

It's all good.

Frosty 02-26-2009 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5529759)
If you're referring to me, I don't move the goalposts and I'm not a Steelers fan. Hell, I haven't needed to even think about moving the goalposts. The blatant errors and lies of the "Gang" makes it unnecessary.

Sure thing, egami.

Just Passin' By 02-26-2009 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by arc (Post 5529958)
Sure thing, egami.

Ok, I'll bite. WTF is an egami?


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