:shrug: 6-10 is probably about right.

But you're all missing the point I'm trying to make anyway, so forget it.

Night all.

Just please tell me Amnorix you don't think we're trading the 3rd pick for Cassell.

And people aren't understanding the anger over the Vrabel signing. Most of it stems from the move to a 3-4 which totally misuses our #5 overall pick from last year. To us, that seems ridiculously inflexible and hopelessly myopic. Whatever happened to fitting the scheme to suit your players.

Guys like Tamba Hali aren't world beaters, but he can give you 6-8 sacks from the left end position in the 4-3. That has value. Glenn Dorsey has Warren Sapp type ability in a 3-4, but he is too small to play the nose, and too short and too important to play the end.

Those guys are worth something, and if we are flushing their talents due to such a strong committment to a scheme which is no better than any other, I question the judgment involved in such move.

We went from a cover 2 coach to a 3-4 regime...pretty much every front 7 player Herm Edwards picked is now going to need to be replaced.

And that's what angers me.

Tomlin kept the 3-4 in Pittsburgh even though he's a Dungy disciple.

People need to realize that schemes are roughly equal. There is nothing in a 3-4 that makes it intrinsically better than a 4-3. So, if you have 4-3 talent, but no 3-4 talent, why waste that talent?

It just doesn't seem logical.

Well I don't think we should run cover 2, that scheme is outdated.

I don't like the Cover 2 either. We should just run a base 4-3 with elements of Cover 1 to augment for our lack of a rush and good corners. It fits the abilities of DJ, Dorsey, and Hali

I just feel sorry for Vrabel. He is being forced to come from the best run franchise in the NFL to this shit hole.

It might just be me but I don't remotely care about Hali or DJ anymore they've had enough time to prove themselves and haven't.

I second this....


Does anyone remember saying "scrap the whole damn thing and start over?"
It seems that was the chant last year on chiefs planet. Now that its happening people are freaking out, wtf?????

Most of you probably don't care, but if you want to see a little bit of what Vrabel's about, check out this link: www nfl com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80747dba

I am ok with Cassel, Stafford, Sanchez, whoever. So long as we get one.

I dont want us to trade the 3rd pick for Cassel. What if we traded picks with the Pats in the first round though?

3% of my concern is about those two players.

97% is about Dorsey.

That's worth our 2nd-7th round picks plus a first rounder next year.

Think about that.

Warning, Will Robinson!!!

You might want to back up just a ding dang dimply darn moment there, Mr. Mecca. Our team has been coached by the most ineffective, ignorant, impotent, infantile, inept, inane, and imbecilic loggerheaded lumpenites ever to carry a whistle.

We don't know what we have. Especially on defense.

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