and thigpen's fanclub remains undaunted

He hasn't played a down in a regular season game, but he's expected to perform as a franchise QB. If the expectations weren't higher for these guys, there would be no reason to make the investment in them, and teams would just sign the Trent Green's and Todd Collins of the league.

If Sanchez is used the way Flaaco is then it looks like he'll just be asked to manage the game and not **** up. A franchise QB should make plays no?

I am not a thigpen fan I am a chiefs fan. I could care less about thigpen I just asked why everyone loves Cassel so much. He threw for less than half the Tds that brady threw for and nobodys points that out or even seems to care.

it HAS been pointed out, look at mannings career tds year by year. then look at brady's MAYBE you will see the trend

So, you don't consider a guy like Drew Brees a franchise QB? I mean he has never come close to winning a superbowl, but has played at a high level.

Well, Gerard just her his neck for Jacksonville sooo uh oh

Manning had 29,49 and 28 touchdown passes in consecutive seasons. Was he only "three fifths" the QB in years 1 and 3 that he was in year 2?

Brady threw 24 touchdowns the year prior to throwing 50.

Nope.

But he wasn't taken with a high draft pick, either, so the expectations aren't as high.

Cassel is being touted as a franchise QB and is being paid like one - so he should be held to that standard.

We don't know what we have with Pollard yet. Playing safety in a Tampa 2 when you have no pass rush is about as tough an assignment you could ever ask for. I think Page is going to be much better with a pass rush. Pollard's a bit of a wild card, but I don't know enough to say for sure either way.

NFC Championship game.

Oh come on. You don't think Drew Brees has skills that you can build a franchise around?

I am not talking about Manning I was talking about Brady and Cassel. Where does Cassel fall on the list of Qbs in the leauge you would build a team around? Is he even in the top ten? We as Chiefs fans deserve better! Hell we deserve the best! We follow this team all year long we love them with all our hearts and the have not won a bowl for us since 1969!! I know the Bradys and Mannings don't come around every year but I think we could have done better than Cassel.

Brees was taken #32 overall, which is a higher pick than Cassel was traded for. He also signed for 6/60 in 2006, which is what Brady signed for in 2005.

Every fan base 'deserves' the best in their own eyes. In the meantime, there are only 2 franchise quarterbacks in all of the NFL, although Steelers fans might argue that the number is 3.