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Come on, there's much more to it than that.

Everyone, and I mean everyone was expecting the Pioli to make earth-shattering moves with this roster. Cassel appears to be a very good start and Vrabel's shown he's got another solid season in him.

But outside of those two, there's been virtually nothing to get excited about. It's as if the problems with the offensive line, wide receivers and linebacking corp didn't exist. Sure, Mays looks to be fine addition but he was initially added as a backup to of all people, 37 year-old Zach Thomas.

It's as if they lay all the blame on coaching, believing that the talent on the roster was sufficient. Just like someone else who said the roster was "85% there".

It's rather shocking to most people that closely follow the Chiefs, isn't it?

Bowe seems to be giving a greater effort to take it to the next step.
T. Jackson has been looking pretty darn good for a rookie.
Dorsey (who many thought would be a complete bust in the 34) seems to be making progress.
Hali (who many thought would be a complete bust in the 34) seems to be making progress.
Mays seems to be an excellent find.
The kicker seems to be reliable.
The running back situation seems to be pretty good.

The potential problem I see here is Haley having to take a fall for a lot of this shit in the eyes of the average fan, and I think that would be a HUGE long-term mistake.
As it stands right now, there's one half of the "Dynamic Duo" that in my opinion stands head and shoulders above the other.
I'll let you guess which one.:)

actually, that's not true...it's a straw man


any perceptive person realized the most he could in the short term with a roster he knew nothing about first hand was to cut losers and clean out the shit...which he has done a lot of....

if trading Gonzo and acquiring Cassel, a franchise QB, aren't big enough moves...well, sorry...

this season is about evaluation, always has been, and ive said so since the beginning...major repairs happen next year, when they no exactly what the need, and who is worth keeping, and when hopefully Clark will let them hit FA harder too...

it still boils down to people whining the sake of whining....there is no way they could remake this team in a few ****ing months...sorry they prioritized positions differently than the smart guys here wanted them too...


but the persistence, the repetition, the obsessiveness of the whining taking place about a regime that hasn't played a god damned snap of one real game is so out of proportion to merit...

i can only assume pioli had anal sex with all your mothers, sisters, wives, and girlfriends....

While those are all valid points, I was referring to new additions to the roster that would at least bring average play to positions that have been sore spots for the Chiefs for nearly 4 years, not existing players.

Center, right guard, right tackle, second WR, etc. I mentioned earlier that Mays was a nice find but he was intended to be a special teams player only. It's like Vermeil stating that Priest Holmes was a 3rd down back while Tony Richardson was the primary running back.

They quite possibly "backed into" a fine player, though that is truly yet to be determined.

Really? This is your opinion? Have you watched or seen the Chiefs offensive line since 2006? How many QB's need be injured and put on IR before it's adequately addressed?

Are you telling me that it takes a "Genius" nearly 6 months after he's been hired to cut Damion McIntosh? Really?

All I can say is "Wow".

I'd be bitching about not protecting our franchise QB had we drafted Sanchez, just like I am now.

This isn't a Cassel-Sanchez debate. It's about taking steps to protect your investment at the most important position.

It's okay, we've got a GREAT crop of QB's to choose from this year if Cassel dies.:rolleyes:

This is funny. When the team finds a player it becomes "luck" and they never intended for the player to succeed. When a player doesn't make the team, people like OTWP say that Pioli has failed in finding starting talent. The team can't win either way. If they find someone it's because they accidentally tripped over them. If they cut out some waste, they suck because they shouldn't have even bothered.

C'mon man, it's not like Pioli "found" him out of the blue. Like most of the FA wreckage we picked up this off season, there was history between the two.

I put Mays success and improvement from his prior stops SQUARELY on the shoulders of Corey Mays.

Apparently, not everyone had your take. Here are just a couple of examples......

And

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...0&postcount=90

Cassel
Vrabel
Brown
Engram
Goff
O'Callaghan
Ndukwe
Alleman
Gutierrez
Beisel
Mays

And those are just the veterans that made the team. This was talked at least as far back as February.

And outside of Cassel and maybe Vrabel, none of those guys would start for any other NFL team and in many cases, might not even make the roster.

Gimme a break.

Pioli didn't "find" 25 year-old Corey Mays. He bounced around the league for years like a hot potato between teams. The Chiefs signed him to be a special teams player. They had absolutely no faith in his ability to play ILB, which is why 37 year-old Zach Thomas was signed - a guy who couldn't even make it on the field in training camp.

If they had signed him and said "We project Mays to be the starting ILB", I'd be impressed.

But they didn't.

He was signed to be a special teamer. Nothing more.

So?

Tom Brady wasn't drafted to be a franchise quarterback.