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doomy3 09-20-2009 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6093711)
I ****ing 5 yard run means they didn't stop the run.

OK, Got it.

JFC, people can be so ****ing dishonest just attempting to prove they're right.


No ****ing shit.

milkman 09-20-2009 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 6093497)
ROFL I expect more than one tackle and to be pushed around like a bitch when the game is on the line.

Dorsey stepped it up a bit. Maybe it is going to just take a couple of years to get anything out of this guy. Or maybe he is the next Ryan Simms-he looked like Simms today,

You know, why don't you post on a sesame street board with people who are only slightly your intellectual betters.

Stop posting stuid ****ing shit here.

Holy Christ.

TheGuardian 09-20-2009 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 6093701)
More than 1 ****ing tackle in two games. Tyson was man handled today-BAD!

Sorry I dont think the Cheaps picked him just to eat blocks-he needs to be able to bust loose and make some plays for that crazy $ he is getting paid.

If he had been getting man handled then Oakland would have been able to run off tackle. They couldn't. You have no idea what you're talking about.

doomy3 09-20-2009 05:38 PM

Last week against San Diego, when the Oakland Offense looked so good, they raun the ball 30 times and threw it 32 times. Nearly the exact same percentages as this week.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-20-2009 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 6093692)
Yeah but you can't just cherry pick that. The Raiders clearly tried to establish the run in the 2nd half and we stopped them on 1st and 2nd down most times. Prior to the final drive they attempted one pass on 1st or 2nd down the entire half.

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Those are Oakland's second half drives before their comeback drive. That's 11 carries for 43 yards, and there is only one drive (5:40, 3rd quarter) where we actually shut down their run. Any other time that they came out and ran on first and second down, they had 3rd and 4 or less.

TheGuardian 09-20-2009 05:40 PM

I think it's obvious that some people want to FIND something to bitch about. All week all we heard was how Oakland was going to rush for 400 yards on us. Today they get their dick knocked in the dirt all day when they tried to run the ball, but we REALLY didn't stop them. They just stopped themselves. fucking clueless idiots.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-20-2009 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6093720)
They ran the ball 25 times. They didn't run it more because it wasn't working. Their longest run of the day was 10 fucking yards idiot.

Russell running around for his life is not a rushing attempt. That's a pass play that breaks down into a run. That happened three times.

doomy3 09-20-2009 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6093741)
Any other time that they came out and ran on first and second down, they had 3rd and 4 or less.

Yeah, that's what a 3 YPC average will get you. Is that the goal?

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-20-2009 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6093742)
I think it's obvious that some people want to FIND something to bitch about. All week all we heard was how Oakland was going to rush for 400 yards on us. Today they get their dick knocked in the dirt all day when they tried to run the ball, but we REALLY didn't stop them. They just stopped themselves. fucking clueless idiots.

What part of 7/24 isn't stopping themselves, you ****ing reerun?

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-20-2009 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6093754)
Yeah, that's what a 3 YPC average will get you. Is that the goal?

The goal of a good run D is to put the other team in 3rd and long. The Raiders did that to themselves by letting Russell pass on first and second down.

TheGuardian 09-20-2009 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6093756)
What part of 7/24 isn't stopping themselves, you ****ing reerun?

What part of their YPC average don't you get reerun? They tried running. It didn't fucking work. The reason a lot of ground based teams get away from the run is when it's not working.

Second, they probably watched Joe Flacco carve us up a new one last week and decided to see if they could establish the pass early then run on us late. When they pass failed they tried to establish the ground game and it got stuffed.

Get a fucking clue you meltdown moron.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-20-2009 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6093765)
What part of their YPC average don't you get reerun? They tried running. It didn't fucking work. The reason a lot of ground based teams get away from the run is when it's not working.

Second, they probably watched Joe Flacco carve us up a new one last week and decided to see if they could establish the pass early then run on us late. When they pass failed they tried to establish the ground game and it got stuffed.

Get a fucking clue you meltdown moron.

So, when they come out passing, they are getting away from the run because it's not working...OK.

And the Raiders decided to play to their weakness, rather than their strength.

That says two things:

1) You're a ****ing idiot
2) The Raiders are ****ing idiots

You're a match made in hell.

milkman 09-20-2009 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 6093562)
The Steelers kicker has done his job today because he made both of his extra points. Those two missed FG's are irrelevant.

You're really gonig to make this your argument?

Really?

tk13 09-20-2009 05:48 PM

I think that absolutely proves my point. But to each his own. We allowed 2 first downs, they only attempted one pass. They did not move the chains running the football like they did against the Chargers. It's not even close. The Chargers allowed more first downs on the ground in those first two drives you posted than we did in the entire game today.

We stopped the run on 1st and 2nd down, got them in 3rd down situations and then we got them off the field. I don't know what on earth you're expecting. If you're expecting 85 Bears style play, then yes, that's a disappointment. For us to have been "more successful" stopping the run we literally would've had to hold them to about 40 yards rushing for the game under your scenario.

googlegoogle 09-20-2009 05:50 PM

D was strong except passrush.


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