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dirk digler 10-18-2009 05:54 PM

The biggest difference right now between Cassel and Sanchez is INT's. Cassel's hasn't thrown one in 130 or so attempts while Sanchez has thrown alot especially in the last 3 weeks or so.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-18-2009 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6185346)
So we draft a rookie QB at three, pay him multi millions of dollars, and sit him behind, who, Brodie Croyle? Is that really going to make this a better football team? You really think after Brodie gets sacked 35 times and breaks his foot the guy was still going to sit on the bench?

I think that Pioli would prefer to get a foundation set in here where when we are in a position that we need to develop a long term starter, we have the luxury of drafting a guy and letting him sit for the year. This team isn't there yet...

Carson Palmer sat behind Jon Kitna, FFS. Eli sat for the first 8 games of his rookie year. Rivers sat for multiple years before Brees had done anything. Cutler sat for the first 3/4 of his rookie year.

I 've said on this board multiple times that were we to draft a QB, we should sit him until after a bye week at the earliest. Wait for the sked to get easier, and put him in a position to succeed.

DeezNutz 10-18-2009 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 6185343)
Calling Cassel's play sub-par is a bit much. What exactly are people expecting from him? It's nigh on miraculous he's able to manage the game as well as he has in the situation the franchise has put him in. How's he supposed get into a rhythm with a line that can't protect and receivers that apparently put cooking spray on their hands instead of stick-em? Beyond that there's been no semblence of a running game to open up the pass. But somehow he's still able to put the team into a position to win virtually every week. Put him on that Jets team and he's probably a 60-65% passer on a 5-, soon to be 6-, win team.

Which isn't saying Sanchez won't be a stud in a year or three...

But come on. What would any quarterback look like behind center on the '09 Chiefs? How good would Tom Brady or Peyton Manning or Drew Brees or anybody else you can name look behind this line throwing to this group of skill players? How comfortable to poised could any quarterback look in this situation?

How about a little history. Anybody remember Trent Green? By this point in '01, he'd already thrown 9 interceptions. And as bad as that team was, the line was far and away better than this year's, and the receivers were at worst equal to what they're running out there in '09. If Cassel was showing that kind of tendency, turning the ball over, I might see it as sub-par. But that's just not what's happening. Has his accuracy been off at times? Sure. And my guess is the more consistent the team around him becomes, the more confident and consistent he becomes. Just like Green in '02 and beyond.

Cassel right now is being asked to turn chicken shit into chicken parmesan. I figure the choices are to be mad that he's only able to give us chicken strips right now, or to be encouraged that he's able to get as much as he has out of what he has to work with.

Personally, I think it's a good sign for the future.

Come on, keg. This is exactly the problem that many had with the acquisition.

But, whatever, if he's Green II there could be worse things.

the Talking Can 10-18-2009 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 6185343)
Calling Cassel's play sub-par is a bit much. What exactly are people expecting from him? It's nigh on miraculous he's able to manage the game as well as he has in the situation the franchise has put him in. How's he supposed get into a rhythm with a line that can't protect and receivers that apparently put cooking spray on their hands instead of stick-em? Beyond that there's been no semblence of a running game to open up the pass. But somehow he's still able to put the team into a position to win virtually every week. Put him on that Jets team and he's probably a 60-65% passer on a 5-, soon to be 6-, win team.

Which isn't saying Sanchez won't be a stud in a year or three...

But come on. What would any quarterback look like behind center on the '09 Chiefs? How good would Tom Brady or Peyton Manning or Drew Brees or anybody else you can name look behind this line throwing to this group of skill players? How comfortable to poised could any quarterback look in this situation?

How about a little history. Anybody remember Trent Green? By this point in '01, he'd already thrown 9 interceptions. And as bad as that team was, the line was far and away better than this year's, and the receivers were at worst equal to what they're running out there in '09. If Cassel was showing that kind of tendency, turning the ball over, I might see it as sub-par. But that's just not what's happening. Has his accuracy been off at times? Sure. And my guess is the more consistent the team around him becomes, the more confident and consistent he becomes. Just like Green in '02 and beyond.

Cassel right now is being asked to turn chicken shit into chicken parmesan. I figure the choices are to be mad that he's only able to give us chicken strips right now, or to be encouraged that he's able to get as much as he has out of what he has to work with.

Personally, I think it's a good sign for the future.

amen brother


it's a losing fight on this board, but well said

Coach 10-18-2009 05:58 PM

Oh my. Threw it right at the defender.

tk13 10-18-2009 05:58 PM

I think Haley is stubborn enough to do what he wants. But there would've been a LOT of pressure to play Sanchez had we drafted him.

"Well we're 1-5! What are we waiting for! Time to see the future!"

Same stupid stuff you see all the time. It's easy to sit here and say it now but there would've been a large swell of support to play Sanchez if we were still sitting him at this point. Very few coaches have the type of patience to pull a Carson Palmer anymore.

Pablo 10-18-2009 05:58 PM

Jesus. Is he blind today?

Hootie 10-18-2009 05:58 PM

Mookie with another pick!

Baby Lee 10-18-2009 05:58 PM

Six? Who is this Sanchavre?

doomy3 10-18-2009 05:59 PM

LMAO

Mr. Flopnuts 10-18-2009 05:59 PM

5 picks. Jesus. He just matched his season total today.

ziggysocki 10-18-2009 05:59 PM

Man, 5 picks? This guy is awesome!

kysirsoze 10-18-2009 05:59 PM

Wow this is bad.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-18-2009 05:59 PM

He's got tunnel vision on Edwards. He needs to stop thinking about Braylon's draft position and talents, and move to his secondary receiver. Keller is a good player, and he's almost completely ignoring him.

DaWolf 10-18-2009 06:00 PM

Just proves how bad Buffalo is that they haven't won this game...


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