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Frankie 10-26-2009 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 6206969)
Cassel's career in KC has just started...false expectations can't and won't define it six games.

This.

CASSEL SUCKS JUST ABOUT AS MUCH AS TrINT DID HIS FIRST YEAR.

Blame Cassel for being shell-shocked. He has 0.0000000006 seconds everytime he tries to pass. He gets no help from the running game. That makes even the best of them push with the wrong pass, or hold on to the ball too long hoping somebody gets open. Put 5 LIVING guys in front of him and THEN crucify him if he sucks. .... SHEESH!:shake:

Micjones 10-26-2009 11:59 AM

No. Cut him now.
We've seen enough!

suds79 10-26-2009 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 6208343)
This.

CASSEL SUCKS JUST ABOUT AS MUCH AS TrINT DID HIS FIRST YEAR.

I really think people should stop drawing comparisons to Trent Green. Yes we all know Trent had a bad 1st year and then went on to be really good.

But is that the exception or the rule? We can't just assume Cassel will turn out the same way.

Will Cassel be better next year? I don't know. I think it's really up in the air right now.

But how many guys have had a bad 1st year and then... had a bad 2nd year also? Then followed up with a 3rd?

Sometimes guys struggle simply because they're not that good.

Chiefnj2 10-26-2009 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 6208366)
Sometimes guys struggle simply because they're not that good.

... and other guys struggle because their team and coaching sucks ass.

Coach 10-26-2009 12:03 PM

The question I have to ask is, was Trent's O-line that bad during his first year?

SAUTO 10-26-2009 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 6208377)
The question I have to ask is, was Trent's O-line that bad during his first year?

not even in the same universe as ours this year

orange 10-26-2009 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 6208366)
I really think people should stop drawing comparisons to Trent Green. Yes we all know Trent had a bad 1st year and then went on to be really good.

But is that the exception or the rule? We can't just assume Cassel will turn out the same way.

Will Cassel be better next year? I don't know. I think it's really up in the air right now.

But how many guys have had a bad 1st year and then... had a bad 2nd year also? Then followed up with a 3rd?

Sometimes guys struggle simply because they're not that good.

Exactly.

This post should be a smiley that people could paste into every thread with one click.

BossChief 10-26-2009 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 6208343)
This.

CASSEL SUCKS JUST ABOUT AS MUCH AS TrINT DID HIS FIRST YEAR.

Blame Cassel for being shell-shocked. He has 0.0000000006 seconds everytime he tries to pass. He gets no help from the running game. That makes even the best of them push with the wrong pass, or hold on to the ball too long hoping somebody gets open. Put 5 LIVING guys in front of him and THEN crucify him if he sucks. .... SHEESH!:shake:

Trent may have thrown alot (24)of interceptions but at least he wasnt afraid to put the damn ball in the air.

He threw for 3800 yards and 17 tds while taking a similar amount of sacks (39)

to put it in perspective, Cassel is on pace to throw for under 2500 yards 20 tds and 13 interceptions, this year. (this is his per game average x 15 because he missed game 1) OH YEAH and 54.8% comp %

=gunshy

***Allow me to drop the Thigpen bomb once.....in 10 starts he threw for 2408 yards...18tds...12ints....386 rushing 3 tds... OH YEAH EXACTLY 54.8% completion %***



where is that $63,000,000 going?

BigChiefFan 10-26-2009 12:23 PM

He's done a remarkable job given the talent he has to work with. Yesterday, he played poorly, but I would still have to give solid marks for his performance to date.

BossChief 10-26-2009 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 6208366)
I really think people should stop drawing comparisons to Trent Green. Yes we all know Trent had a bad 1st year and then went on to be really good.

But is that the exception or the rule? We can't just assume Cassel will turn out the same way.

Will Cassel be better next year? I don't know. I think it's really up in the air right now.

But how many guys have had a bad 1st year and then... had a bad 2nd year also? Then followed up with a 3rd?

Sometimes guys struggle simply because they're not that good.

We arent going to be adding Willie Roaf to our line anytime soon...not to mention Brian waters became a starter half way through trents first season. That is two probowl/hof caliber linemen added to a line that surrendered 39 sacks in 2001 and 26 in 2002

BossChief 10-26-2009 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 6208416)
He's done a remarkable job given the talent he has to work with. Yesterday, he played poorly, but I would still have to give solid marks for his performance to date.

based on what? <---------------this is a real question

SDChiefs 10-26-2009 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6206298)
He had halfway decent protection on several throws and blew them. Horribly.

Hold him accountable.

I love how people want to hold people more accountable then they actually were (Herm) but people like Cassel can do no wrong and they blame everyone else on the team. There were some dropped passes. But Cassel flat out sucked of Ryan Leaf proportions.

BigChiefFan 10-26-2009 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6208427)
based on what? <---------------this is a real question

Let's see... we have the worst O-line in football. We have the worst WR core in football. We have the worst TEs in football. We have a below average FB. We have sub-par HBs, who could quite possibly be the worst in the league, at this point. Add to that a 1st year head coach, a below average defense, and he doesn't have much to work with.

BigChiefFan 10-26-2009 12:32 PM

I think it's a given that Cassell played like crap yesterday. Please find me somebody saying anything to the contrary. I'm talking about his entire season and looking at from overall context.

DaneMcCloud 10-26-2009 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 6208377)
The question I have to ask is, was Trent's O-line that bad during his first year?

The answer is no.

Tait, Waters, Weigman, Shields & Riley.

I'd take that any day of the week over what the Chiefs have right now.


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