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TRR 12-20-2009 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6365206)
I don't disagree with much of this, but when I see a QB with accuracy problems, my faith dwindles very, very quickly.

He's what I thought he'd be to this point, unfortunately.

I am of the opinion that the sloppy OLine play for most of the season is partly to blame for that. I definitely think Cassel needs to work on his accuracy deep, however again in my opinion it has a lot to do with consistency in the WR Corp.

IMO some of the issues are on Cassel. Some of the issues are with the WR Corp. Some of the issues are with the O Line. It's a team game, and in my 20+ years of playing and watching football, if I've learned one thing, it's that sloppy play from one group leads to sloppy play from another.
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bowener 12-20-2009 07:21 PM

I'm not really pro or anti-Cassel at this moment, but after today we have 48 drops on the season. Though it is not fully accurate to add them on to his stats, if you gave him 48 extra completions on the season his comp % rises to 65.74~%. That isn't bad at all... again though, a few drops a season always happen, but a rise in 11% completions or so is pretty dramatic.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-20-2009 07:22 PM

I wonder what Milkman would say to Dawson being categorized as a "game manager"? MM actually lived and watched games in that era. It's very possible I could be wrong, but I'm going to go ahead and say that someone would be getting a new asshole or 3 for Christmas this year.

Pablo 12-20-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6365255)
Great, I saw the same stuff I see every week, he'll make 1 good throw followed by a horrid one.

The difference in this week and the past weeks is Cleveland is as bad as we are.

If you saw the exact same game from Cassel this week that you saw the last two weeks then you have eye tumors.

Mecca 12-20-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 6365257)
I am of the opinion that the sloppy OLine play for most of the season is partly to blame for that. I definitely think Cassel needs to work on his accuracy deep, however again in my opinion it has a lot to do with consistency in the WR Corp.

IMO some of the issues are on Cassel. Some of the issues are with the WR Corp. Some of the issues are with the O Line. It's a team game, and in my 20+ years of playing and watching football, if I've learned one thing, it's that sloppy play from one group leads to sloppy play from another.
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Part of the line problems are on Cassel, did you know in his 1 year starting the Patriots line gave up more sacks than the year before and this year combined?

dirk digler 12-20-2009 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 6365257)
IMO some of the issues are on Cassel. Some of the issues are with the WR Corp. Some of the issues are with the O Line. It's a team game, and in my 20+ years of playing and watching football, if I've learned one thing, it's that sloppy play from one group leads to sloppy play from another.
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Yep.

Mecca 12-20-2009 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 6365265)
If you saw the exact same game from Cassel this week that you saw the last two weeks then you have eye tumors.

So you didn't see a few good throws and a few absolute what the **** was that throws?

morphius 12-20-2009 07:24 PM

Can't say I had much of an issue with the way he played today, other than the hail marry. Of course I'm really waiting till next year to judge the guy.

dirk digler 12-20-2009 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6365266)
Part of the line problems are on Cassel, did you know in his 1 year starting the Patriots line gave up more sacks than the year before and this year combined?

No question he holds the ball too long. Did he do that today?

doomy3 12-20-2009 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6365266)
Part of the line problems are on Cassel, did you know in his 1 year starting the Patriots line gave up more sacks than the year before and this year combined?

Yep, part of the line problems are definitely on Cassel. No doubt about it.

And part of the line problems are because they are awful. And, there is no continuity as we have tried so many different combinations.

Pablo 12-20-2009 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6365272)
So you didn't see a few good throws and a few absolute what the **** was that throws?

No. I did. I can just acknowledge when he makes about 25 good throws and maybe 4-5 WTF throws that he had a decent game.

doomy3 12-20-2009 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6365272)
So you didn't see a few good throws and a few absolute what the **** was that throws?

So, you don't see these from every single QB in the NFL every game you watch?

QBs make bad throws. All of them.

TRR 12-20-2009 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6365266)
Part of the line problems are on Cassel, did you know in his 1 year starting the Patriots line gave up more sacks than the year before and this year combined?

Agreed. He holds the ball a bit too long which he has improved as the season has went on. Either way, he's been behind a patchwork OLine all season long that would hurt any QB's acuracy in his first year with a new team, in a new offense, with a new coach, and a new WR Corp (nearly every week).
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Mecca 12-20-2009 07:26 PM

Well that's part of the problem with the entire offense, offense is about consistency and they shuffle in and out so many guys...they add to the receiver and line problems.

doomy3 12-20-2009 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6365286)
Well that's part of the problem with the entire offense, offense is about consistency and they shuffle in and out so many guys...they add to the receiver and line problems.

Yes. We know this. It is also hard for a QB to be productive in that kind of situation.


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