Next question for Dees, Dane, OTW and Goat (or anyone else that is arguing against Pioli)

In this situation, what should Clark do? Give him another year? Can him now? If Pioli is the problem, what is the solution?

I don't have a solution and I wouldn't fire him now. That would be stupid.

My only commentary on the situation at hand is that Pioli has failed this year and making excuses for him is lame. I'm completely willing to be patient but if we have a repeat of what happened this year it's gonna be obvious we're going to be in for a lonnnng five years.

From the inside information provided by BigRed, Pioli signed a five year guaranteed contract. I don't think that Clark Hunt will fire Pioli and throw away $20 million dollars.

I think that if we haven't seen a significant change in the Chiefs record by the end of year three, Pioli's job could be in jeopardy.

But not after year one.

And personally, I don't expect Clark Hunt to do or say anything.

Short of some type of gross indiscretion that demands an immediate firing, there's nothing much to do right now.

Once Pioli was hired, he gets a minimum of 3 years, IMO. It's my hope, however, that Hunt would seriously evaluate his performance after year 3 and be willing, just willing, to make a move if necessary.

If Haley gets the axe and Pioli continues to sign the Bobby Engrams of the world bringing in a head coach and giving him more of the power would be a solution I guess, making him more of a figurehead, etc. That would require some major meddling by Clark, though. Don't know if he's the type to do that or if he would even want to step on Pioli's toes.

This is all only in the event Pioli continues to show he can't properly upgrade the roster. He deserves at LEAST one more season to do it "his way."

If Haley gets fired, we're going to see the exact opposite brought in to be the HC.

A proven, vet winner. I'd expect The Chin.

Even the Executive of Yore cannot risk missing, again, this quickly.

Do you give him 3 years no matter what? If the Chiefs have another 2-14, 3-13, 4-12 season and they don't seem to be building a core, do you pull the trigger then? I would think you have to show SOME kind of progress. Don't ya?

I mean a more powerful head coach, essentially cutting Pioli's nuts off and making HIM the figuredhead. But again, any such move would have to come from Hunt.

Yes.

Because as bad as it is, and it is terrible, one can take a myopic view and argue that there has been substantial progress. After all, we've won 3 games. More than last year, right? Progress. Hell, we might double the win total. HUGE progress.

Of course, the more nuanced analysis shows the hilarity of that argument.

Now, if we go tits up next year, 0-16, then anything is possible. Anything else, and the dude gets the automatic 3.

Hell, I firmly believe Pioli would survive 0-16. The fumes from Brady are that powerful.

I think any vet guy, like The Chin, would fit that bill.

Those guys aren't going to a place where they have to ask permission.

That really makes me wonder if Pioli would want to work with such a head coach.

If he does, Whitlock will be furiously revising his "EGO" angle.

It's going to be the, "I seriously ****ed up and need to save my legacy as the Executive of a Lifetime" angle.

Making who the figurehead? Haley's been the public face of the team since the day he was hired. Pioli's barely visible.

I'm talking about real power, not public perception.

Pioli has all the power at Arrowhead these days.

The Browns sort of did this this year when they hired Mangini before their GM. Mangini has all the power there, not the GM.

If you looked very, very closely, you could see Pioli's arm extending up to Haley's ass after the Bills game as he worked the mechanisms to make Haley say, "First, I'd like to thank the fans..."