Didn't I just give Haley credit for it? I have to give Charles credit as well though, don't I?

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Okay.

Let's see....camp cupcake or camp accountability? Seems like a no-brainer to me. The Chiefs will continue to get better, some just have no patience.

It would really help if Haley would quit overthrowing wide open receivers in the end zone.

Some of your guys hatred of all things Carl and Herm allows you to rationalize whatever faults the new administration may possess.

And somes hatred of Pioli and Haley are allowing them to nitpick every little thing they can....

Whats the difference?

Carl had 18 years experience as a GM. He never had a rookie HC save Gunther for 2 years.

I think it only realistic to expect Pioli and Haley to have growing pains. Particularly with the POS they had given to them as a team.

What's to rationalize? It's not like it's not OBVIOUS that the team sucks, some just realize this is going to take some time. The team is coming off a 2 year win season. Anybody that expected Pioli to add 53 players that gel in one off-season, where only fooling themselves and has ZERO to do with hatred for Carl and/or Herm.

The coaching staff needs and infusion of some XP. Crennel would bring that. We would be stupid not to get him or someone similar next year. OC is going to be hard because of how heavy-handed Haley is going to be with the O.

Pioli screwed up round 1 though going for no O-line in the draft and wasting a 2nd on a career backup QB. I would have been content with Thiggy, Croyle of even Gutierez for a year while we built.

We reached even with Jackson at 3 but I think he will pan out to be a good pick. Not a 3 but a good pick.

As opposed to being professional upgrades for this franchise, utilizing sound decisions on draft day, augmenting the talent that WAS already in the house, and not firing the O-Coord and installing an entirely new offense right before the regular season, and then coaching with all of the skill and finesse of pop-warner on gameday?

So you're pissed cause a bunch of 1st year guys made bad decisions?

YOu guys need to go back and read post number 3 in this thread. The Chances of Haley turning this thing around are remote at best.

What is to turn around? In my eyes we had plenty of chances to win 5-7 games even with questionable coaching. You can't overthrow wide open WR's, ou can't drop 7 passes a game, you can't throw 3 picks a game, you can't whiff on blocks and you can't miss tackles. You are better off viewing this as the building of an expansion franchise without the luxury of the compensatory picks and such.

Oh yea, you can't throw 2 yard passes in the middle of the field with under 2 min to go in the half\game and no TO's.

The big picture says it wasn't bad move, in my book. We landed a starting QB for a 2nd rounder-the odds of us finding a starting QB in the 2nd round last year, was SLIM.

Going by need, usually equals a reach in the draft. I commend Pioli for sticking to his guns. He also had to give Albert the benefit of the doubt.

I seriously doubt, we pick O-line with our top pick this year, as well. I don't find fault in going with who you think is the best player, at a position of need. All things being equal, the D-line needed to be addressed, every bit as much as the O-line.

I think Pioli is on the right track and his vision for the team will pay dividends in the long-run.