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vailpass 12-30-2009 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 6392460)
Just because you aren't cleared for contact, or to do sprints, or even can't walk, that doesn't mean you don't have to be at practice. Leach still makes his players participate as much as their health allows. They still have to attend practice even if they can't take part in some or all of the physical aspects.
Or else they got imprisoned in a dark room huh?

Chiefnj2 12-30-2009 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 6392460)
Just because you aren't cleared for contact, or to do sprints, or even can't walk, that doesn't mean you don't have to be at practice. Leach still makes his players participate as much as their health allows. They still have to attend practice even if they can't take part in some or all of the physical aspects.
Since when is "attending practice" the same as being locked in a completely dark equipment shed?

vailpass 12-30-2009 03:26 PM
I am loving people brining up their high school sports stories like they are in any way comparable. Should I bring out my Dan Gable Wrestling Camp horror tales? lame.

beer bacon 12-30-2009 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 6392466)
Or else they got imprisoned in a dark room huh?
Wow, it sure sounds awful when you say it like that. I am just glad James didn't try to escape. He could have gotten shot in the back Shawshank Redemption style.

DaneMcCloud 12-30-2009 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 6392460)
Just because you aren't cleared for contact, or to do sprints, or even can't walk, that doesn't mean you don't have to be at practice. Leach still makes his players participate as much as their health allows. They still have to attend practice even if they can't take part in some or all of the physical aspects.
You're missing the point.

If Adam James was a huge pain in the ass AND was suffering from a concussion, the best decision was to excuse him from practice until he was medically cleared to participate again.

Drama over. Leach still the head coach.

Problem solved.

beer bacon 12-30-2009 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6392471)
Since when is "attending practice" the same as being locked in a completely dark equipment shed?
Since when was he locked in a completely dark equipment shed?

beer bacon 12-30-2009 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6392477)
You're missing the point.

If Adam James was a huge pain in the ass AND was suffering from a concussion, the best decision was to excuse him from practice until he's cleared.

Drama over. Leach still the head coach.

Problem solved.
Why? If he was physically able to attend practice, that is to say able to be at practice even if he involved in any physical contact, why is the best thing for him to not be at practice at all?

jAZ 12-30-2009 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 6392440)
Are you saying the kid lost? I didn't see the kid get canned a day before the bowl game.

We'll see. $1.6m would be a good deal for TT given the full value of Leach's contract. There could very well be a quiet settlement reached or there could be a loud and long court battle. I doubt TT wants a lot of that kind of publicity. Are you a Techy Jaz?
The kid won his battle. The TT AD will lose his contract battle with Leach. Leach will win in the end, as he will get paid $1.6M to wait for the best available college football job over the offseason or next.

vailpass 12-30-2009 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 6392476)
Wow, it sure sounds awful when you say it like that. I am just glad James didn't try to escape. He could have gotten shot in the back Shawshank Redemption style.
Would you want Missouri's coach to use the same tactics?

vailpass 12-30-2009 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 6392482)
The kid won his battle. The TT AD will lose his contract battle with Leach. Leach will win in the end, as he will get paid $1.6M to wait for the best available college football job over the offseason or next.
How is getting bought out of a $12.7 million contract for $1.6 million a victory?

DaneMcCloud 12-30-2009 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 6392481)
Why? If he was physically able to attend practice, that is to say able to be at practice even if he involved in any physical contact, why is the best thing for him to not be at practice at all?
As I stated earlier, if Adam James was as big a pain in the ass as illustrated AND he was unable to practice, why not excuse him until he was medically cleared to participate?

Please, explain to us HOW that wouldn't have been a better and more plausible option for Leach.

stumppy 12-30-2009 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6392477)
You're missing the point.

If Adam James was a huge pain in the ass AND was suffering from a concussion, the best decision was to excuse him from practice until he was medically cleared to participate again.

Drama over. Leach still the head coach.

Problem solved.
Bingo

jAZ 12-30-2009 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 6392440)
Are you a Techy Jaz?
No, I'm an Arizona grad, and in fact the Wildcats will potentially lose Sonny Dykes, maybe the best coach on our staff, as a result of this.

I just see what Leach did as nothing particularly horrible (assuming what I suspect happened really did happen that way).

DaneMcCloud 12-30-2009 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 6392482)
The kid won his battle. The TT AD will lose his contract battle with Leach. Leach will win in the end, as he will get paid $1.6M to wait for the best available college football job over the offseason or next.
I'll be SHOCKED if an NCAA D-I school hires Leach as the head coach in the next 18-24 months.

Just Passin' By 12-30-2009 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6392487)
As I stated earlier, if Adam James was as big a pain in the ass as illustrated AND he was unable to practice, why not excuse him until he was medically cleared to participate?

Please, explain to us HOW that wouldn't have been a better and more plausible option for Leach.
Because you set up a scenario where being a pain in the ass gets you a different, and more 'free', set of rules than the rest of the kids. If the concussion was so bad that the kid couldn't even be at the practice, he should have gone to the infirmary or the hospital and gotten himself checked in, or at least gotten a doctor's note ordering him to stay in bed for a day or two.


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