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Mecca 02-03-2010 02:57 AM

Also I've seen every single game Charles Brown has ever played, I could probably discuss what he can and can't do and what he is for 30 minutes.

Saccopoo 02-03-2010 03:01 AM

And if the Vick to St. Louis thing has any sliver of truth to it, they'd definitely take Suh.

Mecca 02-03-2010 03:06 AM

Here's what I'll say since I think Brown going to our team actually has a good chance of happening.

He was recruited as a TE/OL/DL since he did all 3 in high school, he came in as a TE redshirted and switched to OT halfway through that year so he never lined up as a TE in college.

His feet are about as good as you could ask for, the agility is top notch for an offensive lineman. He sets up extremely quickly, he almost always gets to the 2nd level in run blocking, he does a really good job on tosses and sweeps. He also loves to throw cut blocks, probably a bit more than he should, but that's zone blocking. His initial punch to defenders is very strong and he does a good job of keeping guys off balance.

Now the weaknesses he has are he can be overpowered and pushed into the backfield at 6'6 and only 285, he needs to add about 20lbs for the next level. He doesn't offer any versatility because he is a pure finesse player so he is a LT or nothing.

Just in general is a guy who is a finesse playing zone blocking LT. Good pass protector probably will never be a better than above average run blocker.

Saccopoo 02-03-2010 03:15 AM

That about sums up what I saw from him in the games I watched.

Mecca 02-03-2010 03:18 AM

He probably is a perfect fit for a zone blocking team that prefers it's linemen to be athletic though.

He also has considerable upside. probably more than any other OT in the class, if you coach up his natural talent to where it could get him we're talking one of the best pass protectors in the league.

DaKCMan AP 02-03-2010 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6501063)
The only mystery around here is how you manage to remember to breath.

:spock:

Sfeihc 02-03-2010 07:04 AM

Ugoh?

OnTheWarpath15 02-03-2010 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6500957)
Besides Brandon Albert?

I don't know why you are being so protective of a bad Carl Peterson pick. You are defending him being a legit LT as if he was your own flesh and blood.

Funny you say that, considering I'm actually open to the idea of several players with the 5th pick - while you're married to one - and at a position where there's not a hole, no matter how much you want to try to create one.

And reading is fundamental.

Who's been drafted 15th or higher SPECIFICALLY TO PLAY GUARD?

Not "played guard in college and moved to tackle."

Drafted to play guard in the NFL.

I'll wait.

DumbHillbillies 02-03-2010 08:28 AM

Honestly, this wouldn't be the worst case scenario and I could live with the pick. Overall the oline will be better. I could definitely see pioli going this way seeing as how much value he puts on line play.

Chiefnj2 02-03-2010 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6501160)
Who's been drafted 15th or higher SPECIFICALLY TO PLAY GUARD?

WHat does that have to do with Albert?

Chiefnj2 02-03-2010 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DumbHillbillies (Post 6501193)
Honestly, this wouldn't be the worst case scenario and I could live with the pick. Overall the oline will be better. I could definitely see pioli going this way seeing as how much value he puts on line play.

What makes you think Pioli values line play?

DumbHillbillies 02-03-2010 08:30 AM

T-Jack picked at 3 when he was projected to be a mid to late first round pick.

Chiefnj2 02-03-2010 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DumbHillbillies (Post 6501202)
T-Jack picked at 3 when he was projected to be a mid to late first round pick.

A lot of final draft rankings had him in the top 10. I thought you were referring to OL play, not DL.

DumbHillbillies 02-03-2010 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6501205)
A lot of final draft rankings had him in the top 10. I thought you were referring to OL play, not DL.

No, that's why I just said line. Really, it is just my guess that he is a line first guy. But, we will no more soon. His first draft that he is in total control of he goes Dline so it has me wondering.

DumbHillbillies 02-03-2010 08:49 AM

Not that it bears absolute weight but sometimes bias plays into the philosophy. This is his early bio.

Pioli played defensive tackle at Central Connecticut State (1983-87), where he was a three-time Division II All- New England selection. In 1988, after graduating with a degree in communications, he accepted a two-year graduate assistant position at Syracuse University, where he also earned a master's degree from the S.I. Newhouse School of Public Communications.

He accepted a full-time coaching opportunity at Murray State, where he spent one season as the offensive line coach (1990) and one season as the defensive line coach (1991). He left the coaching ranks to join the Browns personnel department in 1992.


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